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House Voting on Kevin McCarthy’s Future as Speaker of the House

House Voting on Kevin McCarthy’s Future as Speaker of the House

Here we go again.

Rep. Matt Gaetz put forth his motion to remove Speaker Kevin McCarthy as Speaker of the House.

The first vote is to table the motion, which is rejecting the motion. Oklahoma Rep. Ton Cole demanded this vote.

The motion to table failed. Here we go again!

The alphabetical roll call will start around 4 PM ET.

During the debate, Thomas Massie pointed out the spending bills pushed through by Trump and Pelosi. It still doesn’t make what’s going on in the House right now right.

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Alexander Scipio | October 3, 2023 at 3:09 pm

Order more popcorn now before it runs out.

So what happens now? Do they just keep going until approved or replaced by someone else??

Kick the bum out. He sided with the pedophile against the American people, he needs to be gone.

So, whatever happens, at the end of this process, every Democrat budget priority will end up being funded in some omnibus monstrosity just before the holidays. It couldn’t be otherwise when both parties have shown that this is the path they want. Not sure why republicans are so determined to promote the democrat agenda, could be Ukraine, but whatever, this is what’s going to happen.

On RSBN, Rep. Andy Biggs just said, “I believe now is the time to make a change.”

They will take a vote to vacate the Speaker, at some time.

Assuming the Speaker is vacated, what is the Republican caucus’ plan, from those who led this charge, to replace McCarthy? They must know who he or she is, don’t you think?

    MarkS in reply to Ghostrider. | October 3, 2023 at 4:01 pm

    Gaetz is staging a coup, methinks

    The_Mew_Cat in reply to Ghostrider. | October 3, 2023 at 4:30 pm

    I don’t think they know Jack. This is emotional and personal.

    CommoChief in reply to Ghostrider. | October 3, 2023 at 6:08 pm

    What’s wrong with a very simple outcome of consequences imposed? Everyone wringing their hands about chaos after vacating the chair should have been just as concerned about potential chaos prior to arriving here.

    Had they been as concerned about it then as some protest they are now they would have done the hard work of pulling aside the Northern moderate and suburban Rep who comprise the establishment’s reliable bloc of votes and explain the new dynamics. That with a slim majority and a populist core of members larger than the delta they gonna have to play ball with the populists of the populists may very well unleash chaos.

    Unfortunately the so called ‘adults’ decided they didn’t have to cater to the populist bloc the same way they catered to the moderates/suburban bloc over the decades who consistently watered down the legislative agenda wanted by voters. Tough cookies.

Scotland was ruled by an empty suit (Toom Tabard) for many years, the man himself being gone.

Can’t say he didn’t bring it on itself.

McCarthy was stupid enough to publicly taunt Gaetz with his moronic ‘bring it on’, when he didn’t have the votes to survive. Not unlike his previous idiocy of starting votes for Speaker KNOWING that he didn’t have the votes, and requiring multiple public humiliations before finally going back to the negotiating table.

Regardless of anything else, McCarthy is simply incompetent. He made a deal with Gaetz and his crew to become Speaker, and unambiguously violated the public promises he made for those votes.

Was he honestly SO stupid and incompetent that he thought the Democrats were going to save him?

McCarthy was just a useful idiot to the Democrats, and now the useful part is over.

    Concise in reply to Olinser. | October 3, 2023 at 4:09 pm

    I guess it never occurred to MCarthy to negotiate responsibly with Gaetz and other disgruntled republicans. There is something inherently wrong with a republican speaker who’d rather negotiate with democrats.

      Gosport in reply to Concise. | October 3, 2023 at 5:37 pm

      I believe the issue was more that McCarthy lied his ass off every time he negotiated with Republicans while he cut secret deals with the Dems.

It was a huge mistake to give him that chair in the first place.
Now getting him out will be worse and harder than it was to find somebody that could get the votes.
Stupid, stupid GOP.

For those rooting for McCarthy to be ousted,

Who is your choice for Speaker of the House?

    thad_the_man in reply to Ira. | October 3, 2023 at 3:52 pm

    I’m tempted to go with Byron Donalds, but I want him to be considered for Trumps VP so anyone who is not a fan of the Bushes,

    tlcomm2 in reply to Ira. | October 3, 2023 at 3:53 pm

    Donald Trump

    thad_the_man in reply to Ira. | October 3, 2023 at 4:04 pm

    How about Paxton?

    Concise in reply to Ira. | October 3, 2023 at 4:17 pm

    I’m rooting for some responsible policy items. Defund the lawfare and Biden’s forced migration/population replacement. Reverse some of this insane green new deal crap. McCarthy has shown no interest in defunding any democrat agenda item. Don’t care if he stays as speaker if some of this is accomplished.

    GWB in reply to Ira. | October 3, 2023 at 4:21 pm

    My choice is whomever will fight for Constitutional principles and Americanism.
    Evidently a lot of people’s choice is whomever keeps the numbers barely on the side of Republicans so they can accomplish… nothing.

    REDACTED in reply to Ira. | October 3, 2023 at 4:23 pm

    Taylor Swift

      thad_the_man in reply to REDACTED. | October 3, 2023 at 5:20 pm

      She is too busy competing with Kaaron Rodgers for the number of TV shots in a Chiefs Jets game.

      Though if she did become Speaker she would make the best song about how she got kicked out of the speakership.

I’m tempted to go with Byron Donalds, but I want him to be considered for Trumps VP so anyone who is not a fan of the Bushes,

Wow it Gaetz just tore into the special interest sponsored RINOs big time.

Elections are decided by the least informed, least engaged and generally lest partisan voters. Right now, they’re watching chaos unfold in the House. They have no idea who’s to blame or who they should support or even what this is all about. They just see dysfunction…in a GOP-controlled House. Does Gaetz care? Of course not. He’s in a +30 GOP District. There’s no way he’s going to lose his seat.

But, there are between 40 and 60 GOP seats that were decided by less than 5-points. Those people are going to be in for a rough ride next year.

    Baloney. Only if they don’t get out there and sell Americanism and the Constitution to their constituents. Maybe make an effort at actually getting the voters to believe in the right things and vote that way, instead of shrugging your shoulders and saying “Can’t. My voters wouldn’t like it.”

    At least, if you have principles, instead of a spirit blown by the wind.

      TargaGTS in reply to GWB. | October 3, 2023 at 4:40 pm

      Lol. Let me guess, you work for the Trump campaign and it was your idea to tell Georgians to stay home during the 2020 runoff because the ‘elections were rigged…costing the GOP two Senate seats.

      It’s vacuous, imbecilic comments like this that explains why we had no Red Wave.

    thad_the_man in reply to TargaGTS. | October 3, 2023 at 4:29 pm

    This is just so stupidly argued.
    The least engaged are watching this. I can’t think of someone saying something more insane.

    Here are facts.
    1, Most people think that most members of the House are crooks.
    2. The house is voting for someone accused of being a crook being held partially to account for it.
    3. Most don’t know whether McCarthy is a crook or not, but I suspect that do believe that it is more likely than not.

    This action is not going to hurt candidates.

It still doesn’t make what’s going on in the House right now right.
And how is what’s going on wrong? WITHOUT using the arguments the GOPe is using to maintain their loyal opposition role to the Dems?

See, one of our primary problems is not holding politicians to account when they make promises – often because “Well, what will happen to leadership?” or “We’ll lose spots on committees” or some other pointless palaver about maintaining some hold on a bit of power that no one ever uses to actually advance the Constitution or the things that made America free.

“I do not believe that the solution to our problem is simply to elect the right people. The important thing is to establish a political climate of opinion which will make it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing. Unless it is politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing, the right people will not do the right thing either, or if they try, they will shortly be out of office.”

Milton Friedman

Though, I would say “politically painful to do the wrong thing” as I don’t think you can ever make the right thing profitable enough to keep them from doing wrong.

You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.

Winston Churchill

“War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse. When a people are used as mere human instruments for firing cannon or thrusting bayonets, in the service and for the selfish purposes of a master, such war degrades a people. A war to protect other human beings against tyrannical injustice; a war to give victory to their own ideas of right and good, and which is their own war, carried on for an honest purpose by their free choice, — is often the means of their regeneration. A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.”

John Stuart Mill

Hakeem Jeffries will be the next Speaker.

The time is past for talk.

Our nation collapses around us while our enemies wear our colors and pretend their destruction is succor.

Fight and win, brave Americans, fight and win.

Someone just yelled “Someone pull a fire alarm” before voting.

Thank you Mr. Gaetz. What will you do now, since you planned this so well?

    He told McCarthy he would do this. He did it. Anyone too worried about consequences after the event should probably have worked harder to keep the event from being necessary.

    If someone is holding a hand grenade and tells you don’t do X or I pull the pin, especially when you’ve promised not to do X and gave them the grenade to keep you honest…. don’t be upset or surprised when if you do X that persons pulls the pin.

So, he’s out.
Bye Felicia.

Well, at least now we know for sure that Matt Gaetz has allied himself with all 207 left-wing Democrats.

    Capitalist-Dad in reply to JR. | October 4, 2023 at 9:28 am

    State media is wailing that Congress is unable to conduct business. But as we can see in any oversight committee, Congress doesn’t run things and the permanent bureaucracy routinely blows off oversight as an imposition on DC masterminds. All while Democrats kick dirt over any truth the Republicans might get at. With this situation who cares if Congress does business or not?

In the memoral words of baseball announcer Hawk Harrelson “He gone”.