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Education Sec. Cardona: ‘I Don’t Have Too Much Respect’ for Parents Wanting a Say in Kids Education

Education Sec. Cardona: ‘I Don’t Have Too Much Respect’ for Parents Wanting a Say in Kids Education

“I don’t have too much respect for people that are misbehaving in public and then acting as if they know what’s right for kids.”

Education Secretary Miguel Cardona doesn’t like the parents who fight to have a say in their child’s education.

We all knew it. Cardona just said the quiet part out loud:

CARDONA: “We can disagree. We can have healthy conversations around what’s best for kids. I respect differences of opinion. I don’t have too much respect for people that are misbehaving in public and then acting as if they know what’s right for kids.”

We all know “people” means “parents.”

They’re our betters, you guys. They know what’s best for everyone, including your children.

Yeah, why would parents want to ensure teachers are teaching them the skills they need to have a successful life? Not Critical Race Theory, sexuality, or social justice. Real skills.

The unions demanded the DOJ and FBI target those parents.

It’s not just the topics. Many schools and cities tell teachers to keep information away from the parents.

Activists tried to make it a crime for a parent not to affirm their child’s gender and keep transitioning from the parents.

Thank goodness the school board said no:

Homeschool or send your kids to private school.

The private Catholic high school here has a work-study program for those who cannot afford tuition plus a uniform exchange. The school and community will help you!

Public education has become another outlet for the government to push its agenda and mold kids to hate their parents.

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Jacka** needs to meet The Penguin.

I have NO respect for POS Miguel Cardona, and a sliver more for the whole K-12 and higher education. America will end up like the UK, where only the dredges end up in public schools.

Outing himself as a Marxist

Cardona sounds like an education secretary for a communist regime. The difference is that he insults and dismisses parents rather than having Beria send them to the Gulag. We are headed there.

    JohnSmith100 in reply to cwillia1. | September 23, 2023 at 10:22 am

    How about creating desert compounds 50 acres or more, surrounded with razor wire for all these criminals? Nothing metal or glass in them. Water laced with estrogen and a nutritious tasteless mush, and leave them there to rot. That for those who have not committed treason, death for those who have.

    Scope of this conspiracy to destroy America from within is staggering.

I don’t have much respect for an Education Secretary who presides over a system where college graduates lack the knowledge and skills we used to expect from elementary school pupils.

The Gentle Grizzly | September 22, 2023 at 5:27 pm

Another quota-hire heard from.

I pay for my granddaughters private religious school

Money well spent

And my Daughter was a principal of public middle school for 7 years… And she loved it. It , was in a small East Texas school that hadn’t gone woke, but she’s up in North Texas now, and woke has its claws in everything.

Also they won’t have smart phones, when old enough, and no social media, no FB, X, nothing…

Next granddaughter starts in 2 years

Neither will see the halls of public school

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to gonzotx. | September 22, 2023 at 6:55 pm

    I commend you, especially the part about no smart-phone. Yes, I had a phone of my own at age 12, but something at the end of a 13-ft cord (paid extra for that!) and no screen made it far different from what we have today.

    My music teacher has phones for her children, but when they started falling into the texting trap, the phones were taken away. The only time the kids get them now is when they travel for recitals or master classes. Two of the most delightful kids you’d want to know, and they seem to like their “Uncle Bear”.

    I am doing the exact same thing with two grandchildren. I look at it this way. Which is better for the future of the family – my daughter gets more money in some future year after I die or my grandchildren can get an education now – both knowledge and morals – that they would not otherwise be able to get. (For example, their school was open regular hours during Covid, except in the Spring of 2020.)

      gonzotx in reply to jb4. | September 22, 2023 at 9:02 pm

      Exactly

      It isn’t always easy, but it is always right

      Gosport in reply to jb4. | September 25, 2023 at 5:55 pm

      Money passed on to poorly educated, undisciplined, and misinformed children is nothing more than enabling poor choices and a recipe for disaster

      I drew up a Trust that specifies performance requirements for payouts to the benefactors. If you want your payout – go to school, maintain a ‘B’ average or better, pass random drug tests, stay out of jail, don’t have your genitals surgically altered, no tattoos unless you are over 20 and have at least one military deployment…. etc.

      Otherwise Miss Sadie’s Home for Wayward Cats gets it all.

Yet Texas does not have school choice, cause we really are not Conservative nor “red”

Like Abbott, it’s all a facade

    txvet2 in reply to gonzotx. | September 22, 2023 at 5:53 pm

    Of course you have school choice. You just said we did. What you don’t have is the ability to make somebody else pay for it.

      henrybowman in reply to txvet2. | September 22, 2023 at 6:57 pm

      Thats a warped view.
      In a state without a funded school choice program, the private school parent is paying TWICE as much as everybody else.
      When funding is introduced, the parent is paying roughly as much as everyone else.

        You still have a choice.

        Let me clarify. I have no children in school at all, but I still have to pay school taxes. I have no choice. She has a choice.

          henrybowman in reply to txvet2. | September 22, 2023 at 11:08 pm

          Yes, everybody has to pay school taxes. The difference is that in a school-choice state, the taxes you pay find the school you choose. You don’t have to pay for it yourself AND pay for everybody else’s on top of it.

          Our school choice plan is even better than that. Anybody (kids in school or not) can make a donation to a private school tuition fund, and take it as a state tax CREDIT (not just a deduction). Essentially, you’re paying for a stranger’s (or even a friend’s) “good” school instead of paying for his kid to attend propaganda camp. Way better than no choice at all.

          Before we had the funded choice program, unrelated friends would pair up and use this feature to pay for the schooling of each other’s kid (you could specify a target recipient as long as you were unrelated). It was a satisfying feeling.

          txvet2 in reply to txvet2. | September 22, 2023 at 11:28 pm

          One more time. I’m paying FAR MORE in school taxes than she is, because I’M NOT DERIVING ANY BENEFIT FROM IT! She is getting value for her taxes. I’m not. Not only that, I don’t have any choice in the matter. She does. Her grandchild’s education IS being paid for by my taxes. She’s just refusing to take advantage of it. More power to her. Just stop whining and live with your own choices.

          ThePrimordialOrderedPair in reply to txvet2. | September 23, 2023 at 12:42 am

          That’s not how “choice” works.

          Of course, everyone has a “choice” to move to another state, or another country. But that is not “school choice”, and for those who cannot afford the extra cost of paying a second time to send their children to private school there is no choice.

          ThePrimordialOrderedPair in reply to txvet2. | September 23, 2023 at 12:47 am

          Let me clarify. I have no children in school at all, but I still have to pay school taxes. I have no choice. She has a choice.

          To actually try to make the argument that a childless person paying school taxes has no “school choice” but a mother in the same district has “school choice” because she can pay again and send her kid to private school has to be one of the most retarded attempts at an argument I have seen in some time.

          “School choice”: is a policy issue, not a matter of English interpretation. Perhaps you need to go back to elementary school, yourself, if you really don’t understand that?

          But even within your sill argument, you have more of a “choice” to move to another district and stop paying those school taxes than a mother with a family has to pay double for private school or to take on the full-time job of home schooling her children/

          txvet2 in reply to txvet2. | September 23, 2023 at 12:56 am

          Primordial Pair: And your argument that having a choice is having no choice is idiotic beyond argument.

        Don’t argue with old Tex, he just doesn’t get it. He thinks paying double for school is acceptable . We get to pay and have children not educated and woke, and then pay again to actually educate our children.
        Must be that spur up his a$$

          txvet2 in reply to gonzotx. | September 22, 2023 at 8:53 pm

          “”He thinks paying double for school is acceptable .””

          And yet I said nothing of the kind. I said you have a choice. I have no interest in what you claim is “school choice”, because I have no skin in the game – I have to pay the taxes either way. And then there’s the fact, depending on how the legislation is written, you likely wouldn’t get the tax break anyway – your daughter would.

          henrybowman in reply to gonzotx. | September 22, 2023 at 11:14 pm

          It’s true you can’t get out of paying ANY education levies. Yet, under a plan like Arizona’s, you can direct that same amount of money to a religious or other non-government school, and starve the beast, at no additional cost to you. Would you do that if you could? Me too. That’s why our new Hobbs Monster (D) is bound and determined to burn our state’s plan and scatter its ashes. Unfortunately for her, our State Superintendent of Ed is elected, seasoned, and no D.

      nordic prince in reply to txvet2. | September 22, 2023 at 7:48 pm

      What you don’t have is the ability to make somebody else pay for it.

      You really want to go there?

      Like all the homeschoolers and senior citizens and childless couples who pay property taxes to fund other people’s kids to go to school?

      Oh wait, that’s not what you meant when you were talking about making other people pay for educating kids other than their own….?

        And, as I said, that’s my situation. I’m paying school taxes for somebody else’s kids. I have no choice. You should actually read my comments before you criticize them.

          henrybowman in reply to txvet2. | September 22, 2023 at 11:16 pm

          Well, we all did, and we all read it as you saying that people who want to send their kids to non-public schools want other taxpayers to pay for it. Maybe you ought to re-read what you wrote.

          txvet2 in reply to txvet2. | September 22, 2023 at 11:31 pm

          Maybe not. That’s exactly what they want.

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to gonzotx. | September 22, 2023 at 6:56 pm

    “I pay for my granddaughters private religious school”

      It’s religious based, not fundamentalist, in case you were wondering

        The Gentle Grizzly in reply to gonzotx. | September 22, 2023 at 8:20 pm

        I’m not and thst was not my point.

        txvet2 in reply to gonzotx. | September 22, 2023 at 9:09 pm

        It would seem that your complaint would be with the church. As I remember, way back in the Stone Age when I was a kid, the ones who went to the Catholic school were subsidized by the church.

          henrybowman in reply to txvet2. | September 22, 2023 at 11:19 pm

          Not in my experience. The tuition was as stiff in those days as it is now. If a poor family couldn’t afford the tuition, the parish priest might subsidize them from the collections, but the deal didn’t involve the school. (The schools were run by various religious orders, not a parish.) Otherwise, the family was on the hook for the full freight.

          txvet2 in reply to txvet2. | September 22, 2023 at 11:56 pm

          I won’t argue with you, but I lived in a small town. I not only knew the kids, I knew their families, and I knew where they worked and roughly what their incomes were. There was no way they were paying for parochial school on what they were making working in shoe and garment factories, as my parents did.

          Dolce Far Niente in reply to txvet2. | September 23, 2023 at 10:19 am

          “subsidized by the church.”

          Possibly in a handful of special needs cases, but certainly in Catholic parishes I’ve lived in since the early 1950s, parents paid, and it wasn’t exactly cheap. Your argument is moot.

          I wonder why you prefer to fully fund government schools rather than have your tax dollars (and mine) directed to schools that parents believe will give kids a superior education. You appear to want parents to suffer financially in order to assuage your own anger over school taxes.

          txvet2 in reply to txvet2. | September 23, 2023 at 8:54 pm

          dolce: I don’t prefer anything of the kind. What I would prefer is a fair and libertarian solution: End all school taxes, let the parents pay tuition at any school they want, and leave the rest of us alone.

‘Misbehaving in public’…Ok Sec Cardona your terms are acceptable. Get to purging from the school house every public school employee who has ever ‘misbehaved in public’ to include social media posts but especially any arrests and definitely anyone allowed to resign or transfer to a different school or district in lieu of disciplinary action. Don’t forget to include all those educators who have been fudging the numbers on student test performance those who have misrepresented their credentials or falsified the accounts of their actions in the school house.

Hey, Republicans, where is the impeachment resolution for this man who thinks kids belong to the government instead of their parents.

    Milhouse in reply to Gremlin1974. | September 23, 2023 at 8:06 am

    He hasn’t actually done anything. I don’t think expressing a stupid opinion can easily be twisted into a “high crime or misdemeanor”. If it could, the entire administration could be impeached, since they’ve all expressed opinions that are just as stupid and vile.

    Even if that weren’t the case, there is no point in impeaching someone when they are absolutely 100% guaranteed to be acquitted, and to trumpet that acquittal as a vindication. That’s why I’m for having an impeachment inquiry into Biden, but against impeaching him at the end of it.

      Gremlin1974 in reply to Milhouse. | September 23, 2023 at 4:48 pm

      Valid points all. I think the thing that bothers me the most is the comparative lack of response from parents, regarding this crap. I know there are some but back when I was in school if administrators and teachers acted with even half the brazenness they do today, forget the school board they would have been run out of town by the parents. Times have truly changed.

    Impeaching is not a zero sum game. It costs political clout to impeach someone and expenditures of that clout must be prioritized and budgeted.

    Cardonas has a big mouth and shite ideology, but he has limited power to enact that ideology, especially in states and school districts who have either resisted or weaned themselves off of the fed govt money teat (the one that comes with all the stipulations).

    So it’s best to save that impeachment ammo to use on the enemy’s schwerpunkt, or center of gravity. Biden is a good target in this case and certain fed judges come to mind as well.

I don’t have too much respect for communist morons trying to install moronic communist bullshit into the minds of other people’s kids.

Another Communist in an important position. He needs to be “corrected”, to quote Delbert Grady.

the definition of “misbehaving” dwarfs the Grand Canyon

Antifundamentalist | September 22, 2023 at 7:58 pm

What people like this refuse to acknowledge is that parents are responsible for their children until those children become adults in their own right. The responsibility to educate a child rests with the child’s parents. Public schools, private schools, tutors, coaches, etc. are all just proxies; they can take on the “job” of teaching a child on behalf of the parent, but the responsibility remains with the parent.

If a proxy is doing an inadequate job in fullfilling their duty to properly (according to the parent) educate the child, then the parent absolutely has both the right and the responsibility to correct the problem.

I see that he sees the danger of what would happen if we played by their rules.

An MBA in Arrogance and Hubris.

Back in 1976 there was not a secretary of education and the USA was the leader in education in the world. After 40+ years of having a Department of Education the USA is not in the top 15 of having the best education.

The Department of Education needs to be done away with. Education needs to be taken care of at a local level.

I didn’t get from people misbehaving in public to parents wanting a say in their kids’ education, but then I remembered this is the same regime that considers parents terrorists for not conforming to the government’s narrative, so it may be an entirely valid interpretation. Conversely Leftists – whether teachers, parents, or other, who absolutely misbehave in public and demonstrate their total unsuitability to have any say about anything involving children, are supported by said regime.

TL;DR – Misbehaving is Leftspeak for getting off the Democrat approved plantation rather than the traditional-Republican-conservative dictionary definition of behaving badly or improperly e.g. espousing racism like CRT, or child abuse like LGTP.

Well, he would absolutely loathe me.
I homeschooled three kids…K-12, 16 years.

    gonzotx in reply to herm2416. | September 22, 2023 at 11:14 pm

    Wow, congratulations

    And that’s absolutely admirable. My daughter pretended to “home school” my grandson. I provided her funds to do so. She didn’t. It didn’t make any difference in my taxes, nor did I expect it to. Did they let you stop paying school taxes? Bet they didn’t. If not, it makes my point that paying school taxes is a base. It makes no difference whether you have kids in school or not. It’s a base. If you want more than the base, you have to pay for it. I don’t know why this is so hard to understand. The government charges you highway taxes. It doesn’t matter whether you drive or not, you pay the tax. There is no connection between the tax and any service they might or might not provide you. If they provide you with some extra service, more often than not, they’ll charge you for it.

      CommoChief in reply to txvet2. | September 23, 2023 at 7:49 am

      There’s a difference between taxes collected to fund education and those taxes automatically flowing to govt schools. AZ as an example has set up a very good program to allow the tax funds to follow the Student to the educational choice which best fits that Student’s needs as determined by the Parents.

        and it’s a good thing there is never, ever any fraud with these programs.

        I have never objected to paying property tax for schools. I object to people some how gaming the system and using those funds for other than education.
        It has happened before, it will happen again.

          CommoChief in reply to amwick. | September 23, 2023 at 11:55 am

          Stacked against the fraud rampant in govt schools? Not even close. Let’s just start with govt schools in many locations failing for decades to achieve literacy and numeracy for many students after 12-14 years including K. Then look at the abject failure of govt schools to deliver a competent product to the community, the Parents, employers and students.

          How many HS grads are hitting college and are sent to remedial classes before they can enter normal classes? What’s the graduation rate of large school districts? What’s the passage rate for standardized testing for the product?

          That’s just the everyday fraud; the failure to adequately teach and prepare these students to enter adult life with the knowledge of a HS graduate. Keep in mind that in most States this is a Constitutional requirement to PROVIDE the education, not offer a warehouse staffed by disinterested union lackeys where the kids can sink or swim on their own.

        And the strings will sooner or later follow, especially with Hobbs in charge.

          CommoChief in reply to txvet2. | September 24, 2023 at 10:52 am

          Maybe. In the meantime though voters are getting used to the idea, Parents can now afford to place their Children in the best educational environment for them. Concurrently the govt schools lose Student enrollment, the tax dollars that come from it, the govt schools footprint shrinks and the political power of a key d/prog ally is curtailed.

          Not seeing the negatives. Especially when you base the objection on the potential actions of a Gov who can be replaced with one who more closely follows the wishes of Parents. Funded school choice support cuts across party lines.

Cardona’s view of parents is the Democrat view of Americans. They know what is best for us and we had damn well like it.

A member of the Politboro speaks.

No need to wonder why we are on the verge of a police state, if not there already.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair | September 23, 2023 at 12:31 am

I want to know what Cardona’s standardized test scores were and what his IQ is. That should be required to be made public for any Education Secretary.

Seeing that he was a teacher, I am willing to bet that he scored on the SATs as most teachers do … at the very bottom. The Education department and education students are the absolute worst in every college or university cursed with them. Their numbers are jaw-dropping, really. Education students score worse on math than friggin literature students and even worse than the retards in sociology. It’s almost comical how dumb the people in Education are.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair | September 23, 2023 at 12:37 am

Activists tried to make it a crime for a parent not to affirm their child’s gender and keep transitioning from the parents.

Leftist dirtbags had started with this sort of stuff years ago with abortion. They were going to court, suing for the power for school personnel to be able to sell abortions to under-age girls, to be able to take them to abortion mills for processing, and then not tell the parents about any of it. I remember there were some big cases concerning this in California and other states.

They also tried to turn the children into snitches by asking them to inform on their parents having guns or, another time, to inform on their parents smoking cigarettes in the house.

This is Western leftism. It is disgusting, despicable, and downright evil.

I don’t give a damn what that pinchè puñeton has to say, hundred plus loving, concerned American parents want his culo nailed to a post and bitten to death by coyotes in Death Valley!

It should be named the Department of Public Education. DOPE.

txvet2 in reply to txvet2. | September 22, 2023 at 11:31 pm
Maybe not. That’s exactly what they want.

No it’s not, we want to use our own money to pay for our children’s education, not the communist regime education camps

When they reveal themselves, socialists are truly . . . UGLY.

I bet he really hates home-schoolers.

In case you missed the Clinton ghostwritten book “It Takes a Village” Idiot. This is what it was about. Your offspring belong like all money to the state.

“I don’t have too much respect for people that are misbehaving in public and then acting as if they know what’s right for kids.”

That sure sounds like it could apply to the LGBTQ+ advocates as well.
Education Secretary Miguel Cardona sounds awful transphobic.