I appeared on Thursday night, August 3, 2023, on Stacy on the Right with Stacy Washington on SiriusXM Patriot channel, to discuss the DC indictment of Donald Trump. The 42-minute conversation touched on a wide range of topics, including my take on the DC indictment and the likely trial scenario, but also the other indictments of Trump, the timing of the trials as relates to the political calendar, the targeting of Trump using the police powers of the federal government, and the manipulation of the Republican primaries by Democrats via DOJ.
We had a chance to delve deeply into the issues, and it gave me a chance to express my views particularly on how Democrat manipulation of the primaries has deprived Republican voters of the normal process for selecting a candidate.
The 42-minute discussion is too long to transcribe, so listen to the whole thing. There were some unexpected topics along the way. Short excerpts are below the audio.
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WAJ (06:14):
Well, and the Manhattan case, I think the judge there has already said that that would await the outcome of the federal trials. So the Manhattan case is not, which is an absurd case, a legally absurd case never should have been brought by Alvin Bragg, that’s going to come last. There’s potentially a Georgia case. I think everybody’s expecting that, again, related to the election. [The scheduling is] a problem that these judges are going to have to grapple with, is that you’ve got a defendant who’s going to be potentially in calendar year 2024, going to have three criminal trials and going to be running for president, assuming he’s the nominee. But even if he’s not, he’s going to be running, you know, through June of next year during the primaries. So that this is a real problem. That’s the problem with the Feds bringing these cases so close to the election that it’s going to interfere with the election.
And then this is whether these are meritorious or not. And I have very strong doubts about the one that was just filed in DC. My initial take on it is, and of course we’ve got to see what evidence they come in with, they’re not limited to presenting what’s in the indictment, but the indictment reads like an indictment of Donald Trump as a politician, that he lied, he did all these bad things, you shouldn’t vote for him. But that’s [not] necessarily criminal. I think a lot of fair-minded people and fair-minded lawyers are looking at this and saying, okay, you say you’ve proven he did bad things. He lied to people, et cetera. But that’s not generally a crime. Generally politicians lie all the time. Politicians contest elections all the time. Politicians try to get other politicians to change their minds all the time, none of that is criminal. So I have real doubts here….
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WAJ (17:30):
I don’t know that they’ll get the entire [DC] case thrown out, but maybe a couple of these counts that I think are stretches legally, as to what the prosecution’s trying to do. And this is a prosecutor, Jack Smith, who has been reversed by the US Supreme Court, has been reversed by other courts for stretching the legal theories. The most famous was Governor Bob McDonnell in Virginia on a fraud of services type of theory that the Supreme Court ultimately rejected. But of course, by the time Bob McDonnell was vindicated, it was too late. He missed his chance to run for president because he’d been convicted on, excuse the pun, a trumped up charge of theft of services. So this is very aggressive and he has lost other cases where he’s too aggressive.
The [defendant] shouldn’t wait until the Supreme Court to reverse him. A district court judge should not allow a prosecutor to do this. But unfortunately, a lot of district court judges do. So even if Trump is convicted in these various cases, it may not hold up on appeal, but that’s 2, 3, 4 years from now. By then, who knows what will have happened to our country and to our political process.
I think that if you’re going to bring a charge against a presidential candidate in a presidential candidacy year, I mean, it’s next year, but it’s, it’s really already started, you have to have an ironclad case. You have to have an open and shut case. You should not have cases where you’re stretching the legal theories, which is what they’re doing in all these cases, except the Florida one is much more straightforward. But in New York, they’ve certainly stretched it. In DC they’ve stretched the legal theories.
And what we hear about’s going to happen in Georgia is a stretch of legal theory. And that’s not what you do during a presidential year to the leading contender. Maybe not the nominee ultimately, but certainly the leading contender now for the presidency, you have to have a super strong case. And I don’t see it in Manhattan. And based on this indictment, I don’t see that’s a super strong case. That’s not to say they can’t keep the case alive and get it to trial, but this should not be happening in the middle of a presidential election cycle….
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WAJ (24:22):
Well, the Democrats understand that these indictments have helped Trump become the nominee. So, if they’re smart and if they’re strategic, the ploy would be do what you can to boost him to be the nominee, knowing that these trials are going to come down and potentially in the minds of most people ruin him as a general election candidate. So this is a very dangerous thing, and they are manipulating the Republican electorate and manipulating the natural inclination that most Republicans have to rally around a candidate who’s under attack from the Democrat government. So this is really so manipulative. If you’re a DeSantis supporter or somebody else, supporting somebody else who’s not Trump in the Republican field, you should be pretty angry at this because this sucked all the media attention, has sucked all the wind, has caused people to rally around Trump that otherwise wouldn’t have happened.
And it is really depriving you as a Republican voter of your meaningful potential candidates. If you look at the the charts like it at Real Clear Politics of the polling averages as it moved into January, February, the race had tightened significantly. Trump was still up by double digits, but very low double digits, like 12%, 13% over DeSantis. It had closed dramatically since last fall. Then the Alvin Bragg, the Manhattan indictment comes down and you see the line separate instantaneously, dramatically. And Trump goes up to a 25, 30 point lead, and he’s been there ever since. So these are the Democrat prosecutors manipulating the Republican primaries in order to both help Trump be the nominee, but hurt him when he is the nominee and he’s in a general election. This is complete manipulation. And whether you support Trump as a Republican or you support somebody else, you should be pretty angry about what’s going on here.
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