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Trump: ‘Our Country is Being Destroyed by Stupid People, By Very Stupid People’

Trump: ‘Our Country is Being Destroyed by Stupid People, By Very Stupid People’

On defaulting if Biden doesn’t accept spending cuts: “We might as well do it now because you’ll do it later. Because we have to save this country.”

Trump had some thoughts on the current debt ceiling negotiations:

COLLINS: “So just to be clear, Mr. President, you think the U.S. should default if the White House does not agree to the spending cuts Republicans are demanding?”
TRUMP: “We might as well do it now because you’ll do it later. Because we have to save this country. Our country is dying. Our country is being destroyed by stupid people, by very stupid people.”
COLLINS: “You once said that using the debt ceiling as a negotiating wedge just could not happen.”
TRUMP: “Sure, that’s when I was president.”
COLLINS: “So why is it different now that you’re out of office?”
TRUMP: “Because now I’m not president.”



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They aren’t stupid people. They are deliberate and purposeful people who can cajole stupid people to act as useful idiots on their behalf..

    You can be stupid and malicious at the same time. It’s stupid to bite off the nose to spite the face. But they are too smart to see that.

    Paula in reply to Whitewall. | May 11, 2023 at 12:03 pm

    At first glance Biden appears to be stupid, but then again it might be due to mental deterioration that has has lead to a progressive impairment and decline of his intellectual and personality functions such memory, etc…

      ThePrimordialOrderedPair in reply to Paula. | May 11, 2023 at 12:42 pm

      Biden has always been known to be an idiot. People joked about what a moron he was since he first went into the Senate, which is why Biden used to challenge people about IQ scores (as Biden was pegged as the Senator with the lowest IQ by some magazine back in the 70s). He’s also always been infamous for being a nasty, vindictive prick and a liar of the worst sort.

      henrybowman in reply to Paula. | May 11, 2023 at 1:00 pm

      And the distinction is what?
      Biden was never clever on his best days.
      This is a man who openly bragged about committing a major legal and ethical violation on stage and on camera in front of the Council of Foreign Relations.

    Ira in reply to Whitewall. | May 11, 2023 at 7:07 pm

    You are correct, Whitewall.
    And we’re sunk if voters don’t recognize that Sarah Huckabee Sanders was also correct: “The choice is between normal and crazy.”

E Howard Hunt | May 11, 2023 at 11:15 am

This jerk lost the Whitehouse because he caved to the COVID BS. He would have won (even with the cheating) if he had taken the Sweden approach, and stopped debating valley girl trollops at his press briefings. He then went on to ensure we lost the senate out of pure peevishness. Let’s not even mention the power he bestowed on that epicene freak, Jared Kushner.

    scooterjay in reply to E Howard Hunt. | May 11, 2023 at 11:20 am

    I think you have it backwards. The White House was jerked from him.

      E Howard Hunt in reply to scooterjay. | May 11, 2023 at 11:32 am

      He lost because he sent the economy into free fall by acceding to COVID measures. The cheating could have been four times as bad, and he would have won, had he not done this. There can be no doubt he lost the senate by pulling a temper tantrum over the Georgia elections. The time has come to back a Tom Cotton type.

        Ironclaw in reply to E Howard Hunt. | May 11, 2023 at 1:15 pm

        Oh really? So the cheating (that was already enough to steal it) could have been four times as bad and he would have won? They already cheated enough for the steal … it would have only resulted in a larger steal.

          E Howard Hunt in reply to Ironclaw. | May 11, 2023 at 4:28 pm

          Good grief! Are you and your up-tickers really that dense? I respect your right to disagree with what I wrote, but I am appalled at your inability to understand it. Very sad.

          Dathurtz in reply to Ironclaw. | May 11, 2023 at 5:01 pm

          E. Howard is pretty much always joking.

        DaveGinOly in reply to E Howard Hunt. | May 11, 2023 at 1:36 pm

        State authorities imposed the lockdowns, not the fedgov. That’s what tanked the economy.

          inspectorudy in reply to DaveGinOly. | May 11, 2023 at 7:34 pm

          They made the final decision but it was the feds who told them they would lose all of the Covid funding if they didn’t. They also made all federal employees get the shot and said anyone that didn’t would be fired. That made all federally funded or assisted hospitals follow suit. I don’t blame Trump for the outcome of the terrible vaccine, he is not a medical expert, but I do hold him accountable for allowing Fauci and CDC to lie openly and get away with it. There should have never been a no-liability clause for big pharma for the vaccine. This basically meant that no matter how dangerous the drug was they could not be held responsible or sued for it. As a businessman, he should have realized what an open cesspool that was. I think he was in over his head with the death rate rising, and as good as he is as a negotiator he blew it with big p[harma. They held all of the cards and his lifetime of making money was useless to him.

      inspectorudy in reply to scooterjay. | May 11, 2023 at 7:21 pm

      No Scooter, it was a lot his fault and it is a shame because even with the cheating, he could have won. Don’t get me wrong, I voted for him and will again but he suffers from an enormous ego and loves the stage ala cnn last night but he doesn’t have the mind that it takes to run a tough campaign against a machine. As a popular speaker, he does well but as a hard-nosed campaigner, he is a lightweight. I don’t mean rallies and TV appearances. I mean a ground game in every state that gets out his message door to door. He knows that the msm is 100% against him yet he has no offense against them except in his rallies where he ridicules them. In every battleground state, he needs an army of observers and lawyers to combat the cheating and corrupt election officials but he doesn’t. He needs organizations to endorse him like unions and large employee groups but he doesn’t. In other words, he is acting like an actor who is only concerned with the Oscars instead of the ticket buyers. I hope he makes some changes in his approach because now he is only talking to his base and that will not be enough to win with.

    Olinser in reply to E Howard Hunt. | May 11, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    HE lost the Senate? His candidates won the primary and then the GOP RINO scumbags decided that they’d rather lose than let Trump candidates win, and not only refused to support them, but actively undermined them in the general election.

    Funny how all their crap about ‘support the candidate’ goes out the window when it’s somebody they don’t like.

      CommoChief in reply to Olinser. | May 11, 2023 at 12:49 pm

      In fairness Loeffler and Purdue were both establishment candidates backed by McConnell and rest of the DC cabal. Trump endorsed them but neither were anything close to being populist right in political outlook.

      Paul in reply to Olinser. | May 11, 2023 at 2:12 pm

      Trump got butthurt because Gov. Kemp of Georgia wouldn’t play his game with respect to the election protests, so he effectively told the R voters to stay home during the runoff elections.

      mailman in reply to Olinser. | May 11, 2023 at 5:14 pm

      And Republicans deliberately let congress go to Democrats. Wonder why they would do that kind of thing eh? I guess we will never know.

      inspectorudy in reply to Olinser. | May 11, 2023 at 7:44 pm

      I don’t know about you but a campaign ad has never changed my vote. Hillary outspent Trump by a factor of 3 and yet she lost. Contrary to the talking heads, it is still the candidate that matters most. We on this forum take politics much more seriously than 90% of the public and a Senator or Rep is not a big factor to them but name recognition is the number one vote-getter, not stupid TV ads. I live in GA and I voted for Walker but I had to close my eyes and hold my nose. He had to be the worst candidate in GA but Trump endorsed him. Same in PA with the slimy Oz. He couldn’t help the general in New England because of the leftist state but RINO McConnell could. I’m still not sure he could have won.

    chrisboltssr in reply to E Howard Hunt. | May 11, 2023 at 12:57 pm

    I agree he should have stayed his entire presidency on standing against the Wuhan nonsense. However, the Leftists and NeverTrumpers pulled out all the stops to ensure he wouldn’t win in 2020 by changing state election laws, allowing mail-in balloting, and continuing to count votes well beyond the election date.

    gonzotx in reply to E Howard Hunt. | May 11, 2023 at 1:14 pm

    This jerk?
    Damn , you belong in CNN

    While that is factually 100% accurate, the relevant issue is whether we want this “jerk” over Biden for 4 more years. or is there a better Republican alternative. The answer to the first is easy, the second less so.

      alaskabob in reply to jb4. | May 11, 2023 at 1:25 pm

      After a winning appearance on CNN by Trump. just what did the DeSantis group do? Instead of building on what Trump[ said, they moved LEFT as GOPdem. criticism of Trump. One can Da_m with faint praise but they forgot the “praise” portion. So DeSantis is now a Ryan-lite candidate? He is playing Pence V2.0. Sad…but better now than later.

      Paul in reply to jb4. | May 11, 2023 at 2:14 pm

      This. Frankly, I would vote for a steaming pile of horse shit over Joe Biden* or anyone else the Dims are going to put forward. So yeah, I’ll vote for Trump again if he is the alternative to more Collectivism and Chaos, but I hope we have a better nominee.

    Eastwood Ravine in reply to E Howard Hunt. | May 11, 2023 at 5:41 pm

    And what do you think a President Hillary Clinton would’ve done as a response to COVID?

2nd Ammendment Mother | May 11, 2023 at 11:56 am

Want to deal a blow to China? Cancel the US debt they hold. Losing $885 Billion dollars overnight will sting.

Not very much substance here in this writeup. He went into the house of the enemy and apparently wiped up the floor with the “very nasty” Ms. Collins.

For example, on the classified documents:

President Trump: “Let me ask you a question: why is it that Biden had 9 boxes in Chinatown? And he gets a lot of money from China-”

Collins: “There is no evidence of that Mr. President…what you’re referring to is an office he had…Mr President, I need to stop you right there because there’s no evidence of what you just said there. What you’re referring to is an office that he had after leaving the Vice Presidency…he had a temporary office.”

President Trump: “That’s at the University of Pennsylvania…you’re so wrong, you don’t know the subject. He had one at the University of Pennsylvania but he also had 9 boxes at Chinatown…she doesn’t understand.”

Another example, the January 6 protestors:

CNN audience member: Will you pardon the January 6 rioters who were convicted of federal offences?

President Trump: I am inclined to pardon many of them. I can’t say for every single one because a couple of them probably got out of control. But you know when you look at it, when you look at Antifa what they’ve done to Portland. When you look at Antifa and what they’ve done to Minneapolis and so man other places. Look what they did to Seattle and BLM, many people were killed. I’m not trying to justify anything. But you have two standards of justice in this country … And then what they’ve done to these people, they’ve persecuted these people. And yeah, my answer is, if I get in … it will be a large portion of… And what they’ve done to so many people is nothing. Nothing! And then what they’ve done to these people is they’ve persecuted these people. And yeah, my answer is, I will most likely if I get in, I will say most likely it will be a large portion of them. (Audience Applause) It will be very early on. And they’re living in hell. And they’re policemen and they’re firemen, and they’re soldiers, and they’re carpenters, and they’re electricians, and they’re great people. Many of them are just great people.

As time passes, the more fire he takes from his detractors, the more popular he becomes with the people who recognize the difference between where we were and where we now are. It may not last, but where we were was pretty good and would have been better without TDS.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair | May 11, 2023 at 12:37 pm

Malevolent Retards. Barky is the archetype and these are his people.

Trump tore CNN a new one last night. It was entertaining – and informative. I am betting that Kaitlynn Collins was picked because she is one of the nastiest lowlifes they have over there and they thought that she would distract Trump by being pretty, but she really isn’t in that league. It was nearly infuriating how she kept repeating, over and over, lies about what Trump had said and what had actually happened. She loved to keep making absolute claims about things that she could not possibly have known – “There were no fraudulent ballots” (which is one of the more ridiculous claims anyone could make about any large election).

Trump handled the whole event superbly and used it to his great advantage, as has been his M.O.

Thank G-d for Donald Trump. He is exactly what America needs right now, as we are under a complete, nihilistic assault by some of the lowest lowlifes and most deranged personalities ever puked out by evolution.

As much as I can appreciate what he did during his time in office he made his fair share of bad calls including some of his hires, looking directly at you Chris Wray and Bill Barr. He also had no issues with adding to the debt even before covid, and not just military spending.

    gonzotx in reply to buck61. | May 11, 2023 at 1:18 pm

    You mean he wasn’t perfect? I’d say a lot of the bad hires were because good peole refused to serve amd people her trusted, who were knifing him like Pence, were presenting these fools as people to trust

      Close The Fed in reply to gonzotx. | May 11, 2023 at 9:19 pm

      I went to the WH site after he was elected, and he asked for people to apply for positions, but requested that nobody apply that would “embarrass” him.

      So I didn’t apply. But he’s not perfect and neither is anyone else. Embarrassment should have been his last concern. Jeff Sessions wouldn’t dream of embarrassing anyone, but he didn’t have the spine to recognize when Law-itis was being used merely to neutralize him.

    jb4 in reply to buck61. | May 11, 2023 at 1:23 pm

    You omitted Sessions and Rosenstein in DOJ, which led to many of his problems. His listening to Fauci and Birx and locking down everyone arguably cost him re-election.

      DaveGinOly in reply to jb4. | May 11, 2023 at 1:41 pm

      Trump declared a national emergency. Governors shut down the states. Trump didn’t lock down the US states.

        healthguyfsu in reply to DaveGinOly. | May 11, 2023 at 5:17 pm

        He literally said 15 days to slow the spread…then he extended his measures. You do the cult cause no favors by denying these realities.

      gonzotx in reply to jb4. | May 11, 2023 at 1:42 pm

      No he won and we all were cheated

      Just look at the shit show we are in

      The boarder OMG pro 10 million already, add that to the 40 million
      I live in Texas

      Abbott could have made a stance he could have called the bluff of Biden he should have put the Marshalls and guess on the river and pointed guns, and meant it

      But he’s a weak as all of them

      Trump 2024 and if not, welcome to the shithole of the western north American hemisphere

        txvet2 in reply to gonzotx. | May 11, 2023 at 4:22 pm

        “”he should have put the Marshalls and guess on the river””

        What does this stupid piece of garbage even mean??? You’ve been told, over and over, that every slur you’ve made against Abbott has been proven to be a lie. This particular one is made up of whole cloth. What “Marshalls”? The US Marshall Service? They work for Biden. Say the name. BIDEN. You know, like the President, who by law is responsible for the border? Yeah that guy. Abbott has Texas Rangers AND DPS troopers ON THE BORDER. He’s deployed watercraft and helicopters. He also has NG troops there. Do you think that’s a joke? Those TxNG members have families and jobs that they can’t do because they’re deployed TO THE BORDER, doing the Fed’s job because CBP is too busy processing illegals into the country at all of the official border crossings. I know you’re scared crapless that Abbott might declare for the Presidency, but it isn’t going to happen. Your rabble rousing carpetbagging candidate lost the election and got his butt run back to Florida, where they don’t want him either. Get over it.

        Close The Fed in reply to gonzotx. | May 11, 2023 at 9:20 pm

        Amen, Gonzo. AMEN.

      buck61 in reply to jb4. | May 11, 2023 at 4:11 pm

      There many others I could have included besides the two you listed, I just wanted to give a small sample.

The problem with stupid people is two-fold. First, they can’t tell they are stupid. Second, *everybody* has something they’re really bad at and really good at, so even genius-level scientists can be chronic car key losers (for example) Everybody acts like they are smart, and they make decisions based on their perceptions of right/wrong/good/evil which are shaped by the media and education system for a large part. So when schools and the press declare that global warming is going to make the world burn, otherwise intelligent people get sucked into the mindset that their actions are ‘good’ if they match up with fighting an upcoming global catastrophe that will kill us all etc… They think they are making a good decision because they are not presented with alternative viewpoints to decide between, just the one, and to question it is to be placed on the side of evil.

    WTPuck in reply to georgfelis. | May 11, 2023 at 3:13 pm

    Re global warming: Tell a true believer that we’re all going to die anyway and watch their face. Priceless entertainment.

The contrast of Trump both physically and mentally sparing with Collins v the reality of a rapidly declining Biden is going to leave a mark. Love him or hate him the man is in full control of his facilities. No amount of lefty crying and moaning at CNN is gonna alter the inevitable contrast to Biden among the public.

    Paul in reply to CommoChief. | May 11, 2023 at 1:09 pm

    Which is why Biden* will once again hide in his basement, and nobody in the mainstream press will bat an eye.

    Hell, they’ve already declared he won’t face any primary debates. Of course he won’t, he’s a f*cking mental retard.

      alaskabob in reply to Paul. | May 11, 2023 at 1:31 pm

      The Left continues to “fortify” their electorate be they virtual or even dead. As Dennis Prager asked today….is there anything the Left can’t get away with? We may be past end game, but we may enjoy watching the fools willingly dig their own graves to prove their loyalty. It is the old demand….”if you really love me, prove it and kill yourself.”

      CommoChief in reply to Paul. | May 11, 2023 at 2:00 pm

      I am not sure Biden can pull off a no visibility, no access campaign twice. They played up the ‘moderate, nice guy Joe’ who would unify shtick to pull the wool over voters eyes. Since taking office the man hasn’t been nice or been unifying and his policies have been from the far left.

      On top of that his physical deterioration is very visible his walking gait is noticeably unsure and shuffling. He has trouble just reading a teleprompter or sticking to the script on his notes. Falling going down and going up stairs, off a bicycle, wandering around until the Easter Bunny rescues him in his own lawn…all those are out there in public view and can’t be unseen.

        Paul in reply to CommoChief. | May 11, 2023 at 2:16 pm

        I hope you’re right. I think I have less faith in the electorate than you do.

        ThePrimordialOrderedPair in reply to CommoChief. | May 11, 2023 at 3:52 pm

        I am not sure Biden can pull off a no visibility, no access campaign twice.

        The dems just pulled that exact same strategy with Katie Hobbs and Uncle Festerman in 2022 (with the attendant mail-in ballot/drop-off box open air fraud).

          The sure did for Fetterman….on the first go round .. before he got into office…..then checked himself into a mental ward….and people noticed. The same is true for Biden. The campaign strategy in ’20 was to Hide Biden so that voters didn’t see him stumbling around and getting confused in order to trick people into voting for him.

          We have all seen the images of Biden looking lost, falling over, stumbling, losing his thoughts and so on. Those clips will be spliced into campaign ads and onto the internet for those who haven’t seen them.

          My point is ’20 hide Biden to keep the public from knowing how bad off he is can’t be repeated b/c we have his whole 1st term worth of public gaffe both physical and mental already out there.

          That doesn’t mean folks won’t vote for him but it does mean they will vote for him with the full knowledge of how badly he has deteriorated.

        healthguyfsu in reply to CommoChief. | May 11, 2023 at 5:19 pm

        But the best chance we can give Biden of re-election is running him against Trump again who voters have rejected.

          CommoChief in reply to healthguyfsu. | May 11, 2023 at 7:11 pm

          I will support the eventual GoP nominee. Polling this week shows both Trump and DeSantis defeating Biden. The economy is going to be worse before the election.

          If Trump wins the primary then the 15-20% of swing voters will have to decide if they hate Trump’s personality more than the state of the Nation under Biden.

          Similar for the most ardent Trump supporters should DeSantis win the primary. They must decide if failing to oppose Biden at the polls by staying home is really worth what another four years of the most radical d/prog Admin will do to the Nation.

2smartforlibs | May 11, 2023 at 1:08 pm

The people as smart enough to know to stand in front of a flag with the family and spout conservative values while never believing a word they say. Hence those that are too busy following a team that means nothing don’t have the time for following up on politician blowhard’s record.

Real American | May 11, 2023 at 2:10 pm

stupid people who think the vice president can reject election results?

Watching clips this morning … Trump stepped out on stage and I thought “what happened to his neck” – then figured he was almost certainly wearing armor.

Section 4: Validity of public debt

Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

I don’t see where the “honey you can go buy a car, but don’t spend over $40,000” doesn’t work.

ChrisPeters | May 11, 2023 at 4:51 pm

There is absolutely no reason for a default. The federal government takes in some $350-$400 billion in revenue every month. This is more than enough to cover the tasks the federal government is actually supposed to be doing. All the other pork spending and woke BS could easily be eliminated.

What surprised me was the reception. Trump got from the audience. I assumed CNN would have loaded the audience with every lunatic Democrat they could find? But the fact these people laughed at Trumps jokes caught me by surprise 😂😂 I may be wrong but the crowd seemed to warmly welcome Trump to the town hall.

    I thought so, too! I haven’t seen the whole thing, only clips, but Trump came off very well, and in large part because the audience was on his side. Hopefully, his team made that part of the deal to do the appearance at all.

GravityOpera | May 11, 2023 at 10:23 pm

The screenshot is hilarious! “What do you think about the current US debt situation?” During the 2016 campaign Trump swore he was great at handling debt and even claimed in one interview that he would pay off the federal debt in eight years!!!

Instead he set new records for debt increases and did it in a mere four years. What a disgrace to the economy, the country, and the Republican Party.