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Elon Musk On Woke Mind Virus: “Indoctrination that’s happening in schools … far beyond what parents realize”

Elon Musk On Woke Mind Virus: “Indoctrination that’s happening in schools … far beyond what parents realize”

“I really can’t emphasize this enough, we must protect free speech … The thing about censorship — for those who advocate for it — at some point, it will be turned on you,”

Elon Musk appeared on Bill Maher’s Real Time, and they got into a discussion about the dangers of what Musk has refered to as the “woke mind virus.” Maher asks Musk to explain, and the result has gone viral.

The New York Post reports:

Bill Maher and Elon Musk criticized the “woke mind virus” and its implications on society during the comedian’s “Real Time” show on HBO Friday.

“You have talked about this ‘woke mind virus’ in really apocalyptic terms. You should explain why you don’t think it’s hyperbole to say things like it’s ‘pushing civilization towards suicide.’ First of all, what is the woke mind virus? And if we don’t deal with this, nothing else can get done,” Maher pressed the billionaire.

Musk, seated opposite him, reiterated his position on the unique dangers of wokeness toward modern society.

“I think we need to be very cautious about anything that is anti-meritocratic and anything that results in the suppression of free speech,” Musk said. “So, you know, those are two other aspects of the woke mind virus that I think are very dangerous is that it’s anti-meritocratic. You can’t question things. Even the questioning is bad. So, you know, another way… [it’s almost synonymous] with cancel culture.

. . . . The two also touched upon Musk’s takeover of Twitter, which Maher said he understood why the billionaire would want the social media platform, calling it part of “the big civilizational issues and problems” in America.

“I really can’t emphasize this enough, we must protect free speech … The thing about censorship — for those who advocate for it — at some point, it will be turned on you,” Musk said.

Rolling Stone has more:

Musk . . . said, “I think it’s been going on for a while. The amount of indoctrination that’s happening in schools and universities is I think far beyond what parents realize.” He shared an anecdote about a friend’s high school-aged children only knowing that George Washington was the first president of the United States and a slave owner — but nothing else about him.

“That is the woke mind virus, exactly,” Maher said, before lightly defending slavery as something practiced by many societies and endorsed in the Bible.

Watch the whole segment:


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BierceAmbrose | April 29, 2023 at 2:25 pm

Well, he said half of it. Suppression is entirely a parasite. It’ll get you, too, in the end, the more ravenous for what couldn’t consume along the way.

He didn’t say the other half: you need what other people figure out because you can’t figure enough out yourself. The world is bigger than your head, doing any unpredictable, often unimaginable thing, indifferent to your wants or convenience.

People figure this out when they first step out of the crib. Too bad so many are emerging, finally, in the middle of life. That’s gotta be a shock.

Woke comes from women in charge. It’s an extension of girls competing by excluding.

via instapundit

    Danny in reply to rhhardin. | April 29, 2023 at 5:50 pm

    So Maegan Kelly is a major source of wokeness to you?

      rhhardin in reply to Danny. | April 29, 2023 at 6:45 pm

      Wasn’t she all bent out of shape by Trump mentioning blood? He must mean menstruation, she decided, so he’s anti-woman.

        retiredcantbefired in reply to rhhardin. | April 30, 2023 at 3:03 pm

        Whatever you think of Megyn Kelly’s pre-intersectional brand of feminism, she’d decided Trump hates women before he made his remark about “her whatever.” If you can’t keep track of who did what when, nothing but confusion will result.

      henrybowman in reply to Danny. | April 29, 2023 at 7:07 pm

      Do we have to have the statistics vs. collectivism lecture again?

ThePrimordialOrderedPair | April 29, 2023 at 3:28 pm

I remember exactly when I noticed this “woke” stuff bubbling up. It wasn’t called that, then, but it was back in the 90s, in grad school, when I started running into self-proclaimed marxists in the joke departments – sociology, etc. People who were actually proud to call themselves “marxists” and to try and be serious about their neo-marxist analyses of everything; basically it all came down to RCG – Race, Class, Gender. Everything. I was stunned. I had had no idea that this sort of insanity was still around – and promoted and nurtured and cherished by the universities.

IN 2008, when Barky was running I saw in him exactly the same lunacy and America-hate that I had seen in those marxist sociolgists, but with Barky being even different from that in that he was carrying a true Third-World streak of hateful envy with him. It was at that point that it was clear to me that his candidacy was nothing less than the promotion of the self-destruction of America. And that is exactly what it was. From Barky’s election, the marxists all came out of the woodwork and started spreading their destructive nihilism through every corner and crevice of America and American society, though with Barky, his buddies were more committed Maoists than the traditional, lukewarm Leninsts and Trotskyites of older Dems. Barky had not one iota of AMerican sensibilities about him and that is what really brought on the transition and unleashing of this monster. This was something that the Founders had tried, in vain, to mitigate through the “natural born citizen” clause … but America was too cowardly to even investigate that and determine its true meaning and consequences.

It was Barky’s election that brought forth this serious, self-destructive woke insanity, but that is exactly what he was running on. and that is exactly what his supporters were voting for.

Some of this is not that new. See Plagues of the Mind by Bruce Thornton. He has recognizable examples dating back to the ancient Greeks.

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Elon Musk understands the centrality of this issue which is deeply encouraging.

Maher is worried that at some point the democrats will be so stupid that they won’t get his jokes, and then he’ll become a ditch digger too.

    Treguard in reply to MajorWood. | April 30, 2023 at 1:37 am

    Maher got forced left by ABC. If you watch the original Comedy Central episodes of Politically Incorrect (circa late 90s, early 2000s) he was a lot more moderate – even conservative in some respects.

He’s right, and it’s not just because he’s African-American, a Person of Color, male sex by conception, masculine gender by correlation of attributes (e.g. sexual orientation).

That said, respect albinos, white people, divest from Rainbow symbols and rhetoric.