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What We Know About the Transgender Nashville Christian School Shooter

What We Know About the Transgender Nashville Christian School Shooter

We know Audrey Hale, who identified as a male, had maps and drawings of the school. She marked the entry points on them.

I haven’t checked most of the talking heads across the media this morning. How much do you want to bet they’ll sympathize with the shooter even though we don’t have a motive or know what’s in the manifesto?

28-year-old Audrey Hale opened fire on The Covenant School, a private Presbyterian school in Nashville, TN. The media described the guns as “two assault-style rifles and a handgun.”

She killed three children and three adults: Evelyn Dieckhaus, 9, Hallie Scruggs, 9, William Kinney, 9, Cynthia Peak, 61, Katherine Koonce, 60, and Mike Hill, 61.

Officer Rex Englebert and Officer Michael Collazo shot and “fatally wounded” Hale.

Hale is transgender and identifies as a male. She used to attend the school. Fox News reported a LinkedIn profile supposedly linked to Hale shows she worked “as a graphic designer who creates logos for businesses.”

Authorities discovered a manifesto and writings at Hale’s house, three miles from the school. Nashville police chief John Drake speculated about a motive:

Nashville police chief John Drake said they are reviewing a manifesto and writings from the assailant whom they called a “lone zealot”.

Mr Drake said: “We have a manifesto, we have some writings that we’re going over that pertain to this date, the actual incident. We have a map drawn out of how this was all going to take place.”

Mr Drake told NBC News that investigators believed the shooting stemmed from “some resentment” Hale harboured “for having to go to that school” when they were younger.

The authorities seized a shotgun and a second shotgun at Hale’s house.

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E Howard Hunt | March 28, 2023 at 9:29 am

I knew all I needed to know at transgender.

    You’re going to be surprised what an army of poltiically crazed and violent murderers has been formed under our noses, and with the blessing of the federal government.

    If you thought the Democrat brownshirts of Antifa are bad, wait till this army of warped young people fully manifests.

Another nut out and about on our streets, committing lethal mayhem.

RE-OPEN THE MENTAL HOSPITALS

I haven’t checked most of the talking heads across the media this morning. How much do you want to bet they’ll sympathize with the shooter even though we don’t have a motive or know what’s in the manifesto?

I don’t know. I think they would rather just ignore it. It is too inconvenient.

Talking heads are in trouble by the trans community since they are not using the correct pronouns. Anit-gun crowd is coming on strong.

    Lucifer Morningstar in reply to MarkSmith. | March 28, 2023 at 10:06 am

    The orders are out from the DOJ propaganda center to the media to not emphasize that this was another trans person that went on a killing rampage. Or even mention that fact. So they are using the “she” pronoun and not even mentioning that fact. The media is only to emphasize that it was the Republicans fault for being in the NRA’s pocket.

    I like to point out to the anti-gun nuts blaming Republicans that democrats controlled the White House, Senate, and House of Reps. for TWO complete YEARS at the beginning of the Biden regime and could have passed strict gun control legislation during that time. It would have been a hands down winner for the democrats. But they failed to do so. They didn’t care enough about the children to do so then so why should we believe the democrats care now. They are simply using this tragedy as a political propaganda statement due to the upcoming 2024 presidential election.

      When an abortion doctor was murdered the pro-life movement was blamed. When Shepard was supposedly murdered by straights…it was normies that got accused. When the Trans urge violence what is the result here…oh..gun control. A “lone zealot” they say… A lib I know asked the important question…”what did the Christian school do to harm her?”. She..xer…it….whatever… Is a distillation of the dangerous dysfunction of the progs. Now “she” is the true victim….it doesn’t work like that in realville.

        ”what did the Christian school do to harm her?”
        This is a bit of speculation on my part…
        She left that school at least sixteen years before. Why go back there, other than soft target? Was there something back there impacting her that she felt needed revenge? Or was this more of a “You hate trans people!” and she just happens to know a place…?

          The_Mew_Cat in reply to GWB. | March 28, 2023 at 11:00 am

          It was a soft target, and most importantly, she knew it well.

          daniel_ream in reply to GWB. | March 28, 2023 at 2:23 pm

          Although the recent wave of social contagion has skewed the numbers, over 90% of people with sexual dysmorphia suffered serial sexual abuse as children. The dysmorphia is a self-destructive coping mechanism.

          One of the pathologies of complex PTSD is displacement and generalization. With my half-assed layman’s knowledge of the topic, I would bet that she was molested as a child either by someone at that school or a religious figure she has associated (rightly or wrongly) with the school.

          It is a profound mistake to ascribe conventional rationality to these people. Their motives are understandable once you understand their thought processes, but you have to start with the understanding that their thought processes are disordered.

          MarkSmith in reply to GWB. | March 28, 2023 at 3:23 pm

          Replying to daniel_ream

          Yea, yea, yea, it must be molested as a child either by someone at that school or a religious figure. That is the root to all the problems/s

          Actually I am tired of that argument. I think that when teenagers are young adults are going through their identity crisis to become an adult, we have extended their childhood to not make those hard decisions that we had to when we were 16. What do I want to be when I grow up! With all the social BS influencing our kids and the fact our kids are not moving out until 30, is a problem. They never grow up and never learn to stop being a victim and do something with their life.

          alaskabob in reply to GWB. | March 28, 2023 at 3:31 pm

          It recognized that the school was a soft target. It had been a student there. It also is reported as knowing what It was doing was wrong. It was suicidal.

          The only way for the Left to push gun control is to perpetrate it themselves. Imagine a world without gun crime… imagine a world without the Left.

    Ghostrider in reply to MarkSmith. | March 28, 2023 at 10:15 am

    Transgendered people are psychologically unstable and mentally ill.

      Lucifer Morningstar in reply to Ghostrider. | March 28, 2023 at 7:47 pm

      The worst thing to happen was when the American psychological/psychiatric community decided to rename Gender Identity Disorder as “Gender Dysphoria” and redefine it as something to be celebrated and encouraged instead of treated as the mental disorder it truly is.

    Morning Sunshine in reply to MarkSmith. | March 28, 2023 at 10:18 am

    THIS. I saw an article mentioning that this is only the THIRD mass shooting in US history done by a woman.
    But, by their rules, she is NOT a woman as she goes by he/him.

    So pick a set of rules and follow them yourself; until then don’t attack others for “dead-naming” or “misgendering” or whatever.

Mentally deluded woman is a better description.
So sick of “identities”.

I’m sure the talking heads are desperately searching for someone well known who has mis-pronouned or deadnamed this evil bitch and that will be the main story.

Why bother with red flag laws when you downgrade obvious mental illnesses?

    nordic prince in reply to SeymourButz. | March 28, 2023 at 11:14 am

    Because “red flag” laws are not about keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill. They’re about keeping guns out of the hands of conservatives (who will eventually be labeled “mentally ill”).

    henrybowman in reply to SeymourButz. | March 28, 2023 at 3:14 pm

    Tennessee has proposed red flag laws, but none of them have passed.

    Red flag laws are sold as empowering family members to “get help” for a relative, but once passed, are used more often by law enforcement officials to end-run the subject’s constitutional right to a showing of probable cause than by family members.

    States without red flag laws invariably have an analogous alternative that preserves due process. However, it requires the family member to act, something this killer’s mother did not do, because she was apparently too focused on blaming guns for murder (tweet removed since yesterday but archived here) to pay attention to how her kid was feeling or what she was doing.

      Admittedly, her mother also seemed entirely unaware of any unhappiness on the part of her daughter.

      Milhouse in reply to henrybowman. | March 28, 2023 at 7:09 pm

      Red flag laws are sold as empowering family members to “get help” for a relative,

      Except that as far as I know no state’s red flag law actually provides for such help. The law just disarms the allegedly distressed person, and then leaves them to their own devices, with neither supervision nor help. If they were feeling suicidal, or homicidal, or are just living in another dimension, they’re still feeling that way, and still have no way to stop feeling that way, and can still get access to weapons of one kind or another, so nothing has changed except that they’re now defenseless against any actual threat to them. Not to mention that if they really are unstable, then when the cops raid them with no notice to enforce the order and seize their guns, they’re likely to resist with deadly force, and get shot.

        GWB in reply to Milhouse. | March 29, 2023 at 8:29 am

        they’re likely to resist with deadly force, and get shot.
        I think there’s a subset of anti-gunners who find that to be a feature, not a bug.

‘The media described the guns as “two assault-style rifles and a handgun.”’

Proving, once again, the media know nothing about firearms. The pictures clearly show 2 pistols (AR type, and S&W Shield), and one rifle (Kel Tec Sub2000)

The video that has been released so far only shows the criminal using the Kel Tec rifle.

    Gosport in reply to bigskydoc. | March 28, 2023 at 10:32 am

    Entering the building, wandering around a bit, killing 5 people, then getting ventilated by the cops only took 14 minutes so she probably never changed magazines on the Kel Tec.

    alaskabob in reply to bigskydoc. | March 28, 2023 at 10:37 am

    Wasn’t a Kel-Tec used in that rooftop attack months back? Very interesting assortment for someone who you would think wouldn’t be up on firearms. Reminds me of James Earl Ray…. Exchanging his new 243 Rem for 30-06 the day later. Is there someone(s) behind the scenes directing this? Oh…and the red cap she..xer..it wore!

    Uh, the AR type didn’t appear to be a pistol in the photo I saw. No matter which one was in her hands in the video, the one slung around her body was definitely a “long gun”.

      GWB in reply to GWB. | March 28, 2023 at 11:07 am

      Having gone back and re-looked at the picture of the AR, it is entirely possible that has a barrel shorter than 16 inches on it. It is however, hard to tell, since the sling is placed over the barrel past the heat shield/foregrip.

      alaskabob in reply to GWB. | March 28, 2023 at 1:13 pm

      Link within Ace of Spade HQ is the Youtube video from the Nashville cops capping “it”. Anyone who has ever gone through the “fun house” knows that this was a dynamic and successful neutralizing of the murderer. Clearing that big building was done well… at real risk but the guys did well. Note… minimal body armor. Sadly, “it’ didn’t suffer long enough.

        bigskydoc in reply to alaskabob. | March 28, 2023 at 2:45 pm

        Length of the barrel is irrelevant as to whether the AR is a rifle or a pistol.

        If it has a stock attached, then it is a rifle. If it has a stock attached, and the barrel is under 16″, then it is a short-barrelled rifle.

        If it has only a buffer tube, or a stabilizing brace, then it is a pistol, no matter the length of the barrel.

        The pictures clearly show a stabilizing brace attached, thus it is a pistol.

          henrybowman in reply to bigskydoc. | March 28, 2023 at 3:23 pm

          “The pictures clearly show a stabilizing brace attached, thus it is a pistol.”
          Oh oh.
          Now this “random shooting” pegs a whole separate paranoia meter.

          Uh no. The length of the barrel makes it either a short-barreled rifle or a pistol. If it does not have a “stock” then it is a pistol. Having a brace, under the new rules, makes it a SBR.

          A “stock” is functionally identical to a “brace” when on a weapon with a 16″+ barrel.

          alaskabob in reply to bigskydoc. | March 28, 2023 at 9:18 pm

          Gosh… if only the ATF had banned pistol braces earlier, this wouldn’t have happened.. All bans work. /s/s/s/s I especially liked it when the officer innoculated It with 4 doses of lead and then yelled “don’t move”… It then cooperated. Sadly, the needed period of suffering was too short. At least it quivered for a little bit.

          bigskydoc in reply to bigskydoc. | March 28, 2023 at 9:21 pm

          @GWB Uh, yes. The new ATF rule was published into the Federal Register on Jan 31, 2023, therefore it does not go into effect until May 31 (120 days from the published date).

          Until that date, the old rule applies.

          Because the stabilizing brace is not considered to be a stock (until May31), weapons with an attached brace are treated identically to weapons with a naked buffer tube. They are pistols. That was the entire draw of these devices, and the reason more than 3 million were sold. There is no minimum, nor maximum barrel length in the federal definition of a pistol.

          When the new rule goes into effect, the stabilizing brace will be considered to be a stock (rare, granted exclusions notwithstanding). Weapons to which they are attached will be considered either a rifle, or a short-barreled rifle, depending on the length of the barrel, and the overall length.

    angrywebmaster in reply to bigskydoc. | March 28, 2023 at 6:53 pm

    Actually, I believe the rifles are PCC’s. (Pistol Caliber Carbines) Basically a handgun with a long barrel and a stock.

    If she had brought the sawed off shotgun, she would have done a lot more damage I think.

      I don’t think her weapon choices were why there weren’t more victims. It was primarily that the school went on lockdown and she couldn’t get to any more victims.

The NY Post in one of its articles referred to Hale as “they”. I suppose the writer was not sure which gender of the person was responsible for the murders.

… the assailant whom they called a “lone zealot”

Lone? She might have been alone when planning and executing her evil plot but rest assured she wasn’t alone in getting motivated to do so as trans radicals have been calling for violence and even assassinations since Tenn passed a law banning the medical transitioning of minors.

YESTERDAY: TRANS Radicals Threatened Violence in TN Over Trans and Drag Queen Legislation…TODAY: Trans Person Reportedly Shot and Killed 6 People At Nashville,TN, Christian School

That’s not a coincidence and I’m sure that if she didn’t delete her social media accounts the cops are getting some very interesting reading right about now.

Why dignify the scribblings of a mentally ill murderer by use of the term “manifesto”? In my opinion neither a murderer nor his/her demands or excuses deserve respect. The definition of the term seems to me as describing something maybe worth considering — something of possible value. Nothing of value to me offered by a murderer, especially a murderer of children.

While following this story a bit, I heard it mentioned somewhere that mental illness was not a factor in this shooting.

“Transgenderism” IS a mental illness, as it is a complete denial of verifiable reality.

Anyone ever go to an IDPA or other competition? This is where the real cops live. It’s something to see when these guys who are skilled clear a stage in seconds with a perfect score.

I was delighted to hear my wife say the school my daughter just enrolled in had an armed cop there all day. Next step… hound the local department to get these guys into IDPA like my kid’s life depends on it.

    stevewhitemd in reply to Andy. | March 28, 2023 at 3:13 pm

    Andy, very good point — it’s one thing to have an armed officer at the school, but it’s a far better thing for that officer to have that training, and to be clear-headed and responsible when the SHTF. We don’t need any more Uvalde’s.

      henrybowman in reply to stevewhitemd. | March 28, 2023 at 3:31 pm

      Right.
      With 400 armed officers at that school not a one of whom did anything constructive, I think the “armed officer” argument is now as logically dismissible as the “minimum wage” argument.

The authorities seized a shotgun and a second shotgun at Hale’s house.
That’s a weird way to write that. Was the first shotgun seized from her car?

NYPost has had some good information from the police on all of this, so far, and I’ll lay a little of it out here. (They also have video of her entrance to the school and moving about the first floor for a bit.)

First, She did not use “assault rifles”. She had an AR-15 style weapon (I don’t know the caliber, so won’t call it plainly an AR-15) and what looked like a Keltec P2000, which is a 9mm pistol-caliber carbine (PCC). It had an extended magazine in it. She also was carrying an M&P Shield EZ.

I don’t know if she had played video games or watched a bunch of war movies and tv shows. She seemed to hold the rifle in a tactical move stance, but I don’t think she had formal training.

Also, the rifle and the PCC were decorated. One had “his” name painted on the stock, the other had “Hellfire” painted or stuck on. Both had at least one other sticker on them.

Second, her mom is a cookie cutter anti-gun sort. She’s gotta really be hurt by this. (That’s not sympathy, necessarily, just an observation.) And already some of her tweets have disappeared.

Third, no one is yet saying how long she identified as “trans”, but I wouldn’t guess very long. Her female name is plastered on most all of the internet stuff concerning her.

An observation: If you’re truly serious about protection from active shooters, don’t make your entrances glass doors. Put at least one substantial barrier up.

Second observation: Her car is seen in the surveillance footage. It looks like one of the Euro wind-up cars. I don’t know if it’s an EV or not, but it is certainly a starter car. And, she goes and parks it properly in a spot past the cars of the teachers (or others at the church, maybe). She does not park it by the door as if she’s in a hurry or feels the need to rush in.

    daniel_ream in reply to GWB. | March 28, 2023 at 2:29 pm

    I don’t know if she had played video games or watched a bunch of war movies and tv shows. She seemed to hold the rifle in a tactical move stance, but I don’t think she had formal training.

    Also, the rifle and the PCC were decorated. One had “his” name painted on the stock, the other had “Hellfire” painted or stuck on.

    Much like MtF dysmorphics, FtM dysmorphics adopt exaggerated, cartoonish versions of their target sex’s behaviour. 20-something men play Call of Duty and say “bro” a lot, so Hale adopts those behaviours and amps it up to real thing. With no real exposure to guns or a tactical situation, she mimics what she sees in video games.

    henrybowman in reply to GWB. | March 28, 2023 at 3:33 pm

    “She does not park it by the door as if she’s in a hurry or feels the need to rush in.”
    Or as if she’s ever going to need to rush out…

This is the result of poisoning women with testosterone, and giving them all the pain and aggression it brings, without the decades of socialization necessary to teach men self-control.

Ultimately, trans is the ultimate form of patriarchy – it convinces young women that their difficult puberty is a flaw to be fixed by surgery and hormones, and it gives predatory men a pass on entering women-only spaces. Trans is literally toxic masculinity, both ways.

    Morning Sunshine in reply to jhkrischel. | March 28, 2023 at 11:23 am

    I wish I could upvote you so many times!

    THIS. SO MUCH THIS.

    both of your points are correct.

    Sex is male and female. Gender is sex-correlated attributes (e.g. sexual orientation): masculine and feminine, respectively. Social progress entails genderfication. Eyes up here, maybe, baby.

    The feministarchy holds human rites, embraces diversity with other class-disordered ideologues, joins with trans/homos in political congurence (“=”) (e.g. two men and a womb). and a minority are “good Americans” who go along with Levine’s personal affirmation.

    Men, women, and “our Posterity” are from Earth. Feminists are from Venus. Masculinists are from Mars. Social progressives are from Uranus. #WarOfTheWorlds

      stevewhitemd in reply to n.n. | March 28, 2023 at 3:21 pm

      I tried parsing what you wrote and gave up. Perhaps you want to wait a bit, collect your thoughts, and try again?

        henrybowman in reply to stevewhitemd. | March 28, 2023 at 3:36 pm

        It’s best not to try. I treat almost all of these like I treat Spanish-language ads on TV. I mean, I consider the guy collegial, but incomprehensible. Like T. S. Eliot.

First impression. She hated the school for what it stood for, and perhaps her mom, apparently religious and a gun control freak.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11909639/Anti-gun-Mom-Nashville-school-shooter-says-think-just-lost-daughter.html

    The mother had circulated “a petition to keep guns out of schools”. Interesting, since locked doors and laws actually making it illegal to have guns in schools didn’t seem to stop her.

    And here’s part of the answer to my above speculation: “Hale also allegedly had planned out an attack on another school but decided not to attack there after believing there was too much security”

    Also, FTA: “She was shot dead 14 minutes after she broke into the school”. No disrespect to the cops, who evidently engaged rapidly (of course, she did shoot at them first). But one more example of “When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.”

      Olinser in reply to GWB. | March 28, 2023 at 12:09 pm

      The first cops actually arrived in like ~8-10 minutes, but it takes TIME for them to search and locate a shooter in a building that size.

      Police actually released the body cam of one of the ones that took the shooter down. They weren’t the first in the building, there were already several others, but from entry of the building to actually finding the shooter took a full 2 minutes.

      In all honesty, this was probably about the fastest response and takedown you could expect from police, the body cam video actually shows a pretty great takedown sequence, it seems to be the cam of the officer in charge they quickly enter the building, directs the other officers in constantly moving forward and holding exits, and engages the shooter immediately after they were located.

      But it still took 14 minutes. More than long enough for them to do all the shooting their heart desired before being taken down.

      Police cannot do anything other than take them down after they’re done killing.

      The only thing that STOPS them is actual armed security or staff on the scene when it starts.

        healthguyfsu in reply to Olinser. | March 28, 2023 at 12:21 pm

        Yep, no reason to doubt police here. The fact that the police can’t protect you or prevent crime still looms large as an important reason for the 2nd amendment, though.

        My sister in law has a psycho ex going through a custody battle with her and she can’t get a restraining order because custody is in dispute.

        texansamurai in reply to Olinser. | March 28, 2023 at 2:01 pm

        In all honesty, this was probably about the fastest response and takedown you could expect from police
        ____________________________________________________________________

        very good job–corto y derecho

        as you said, only quicker response available is either preventing shooter’s entry or, if they are able to enter the building, dropping them in the first few seconds once they’re inside–both of those responses require dedicated security / staff armed and prepared

          henrybowman in reply to texansamurai. | March 28, 2023 at 3:39 pm

          I agree with everything except the word “dedicated.”
          A personally armed teacher in the first classroom she visited could have ended this immediately. Same goes for any of her apparently specific adult victims.

      GWB in reply to GWB. | March 28, 2023 at 5:03 pm

      I’d be curious to hear from the person who down-voted me as to why.

    From the article:

    According to the chief, Hale and no criminal history and said he did not know of any history of mental illness, though investigators were still looking into that.

    No history of mental illness, got it? No history of mental illness. Yeah, uh-huh.

I suspect that this individual had unresolved issues from adolescence and sought out a ‘trans’ identity as a way to gain a missing sense of belonging/validation and/or acceptance. Eventually the individual turned to anger/resentment when the ‘transition’ failed to achieve the desired result. The propaganda, indoctrination of hate within the oppressor /oppressed ideology led to violence. That’s my arm chair, amateur analysis FWIW.

    nordic prince in reply to CommoChief. | March 28, 2023 at 11:17 am

    I daresay most “transgenders” have unresolved mental issues of one sort or another.

    Gosport in reply to CommoChief. | March 28, 2023 at 11:22 am

    A regimen of testosterone/roid cocktails frying her normal hormones probably didn’t do much for her mental health either,

    healthguyfsu in reply to CommoChief. | March 28, 2023 at 12:23 pm

    The person was probably filled with hateful rhetoric about how people committed violence against ze with words and that justified a violent response.

    henrybowman in reply to CommoChief. | March 28, 2023 at 3:40 pm

    I really, really like the ‘sudden onset testosterone” explanation.
    I’ve never before considered that.

I had a twitter exchange with someone from the lgbtq community. They claimed that there were old school trans people, and new trans.. The old school were living the life of the gender that they chose, quiety.. the new trans are the more radical, in your face types, the idiots claiming that men can have periods, and have babies. There is something terrifying about the new trans in that is seems a good disguise for monsters like Audrey. A disguise that hides profound mental issues, even lauds them. Discussions should be about what created this monster,, not about her teeth and claws. Bless and keep those grieving families…

    henrybowman in reply to amwick. | March 28, 2023 at 3:49 pm

    What a coincidence. That pretty much marks the boundary between the “live and let live” attitude that I and (I presume) the majority of those like me had before the “woke singularity,” and the “I want all these MFs to die in a fire yesterday” attitude I find myself gravitating towards today.

    My pal Ernie Hancock says it best: “There are two types of people in the world: those who want to be left alone, and those who just will not leave them alone.”

One thing that bothered me.. that pic that is circulating.. I tried to find out how old she was.. That is a kid.. not a 28 year old woman.

There is no such thing as TRANS. It is a made up construct. There are 2 genders. You don’t get to pick which one you are. You are born either male or female (yeah I know there is something like .02% of the population that are hermaphrodite. I’m not talking about them). These people have gender dysphoria. Stop kowtowing to these people who need psycholigical help. Words matter. Stop with the TRANS BS.

They have released a text exchange she had with a friend of hers minutes before she started killing.

Doesn’t sound much like a manifesto. More like suicide by cop with a few innocent victims as triggers. Very disturbing when taken in context.

    NotCoach in reply to Gosport. | March 28, 2023 at 2:06 pm

    What a coward. Not enough guts to put a gun to her own head. Why kill innocents as well? What a total PoS. May she rot in hell.

      AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to NotCoach. | March 28, 2023 at 2:27 pm

      I have to admit. The officers punched her ticket to the afterlife. Now comes the sorting part.

    AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to Gosport. | March 28, 2023 at 2:29 pm

    What did the friend do to alert anyone that a nut job was on the loose?

      henrybowman in reply to AF_Chief_Master_Sgt. | March 28, 2023 at 3:59 pm

      She called the non-emergency police line. Poor judgment indeed. The emergency police line is slow enough as it is.

      A TV news report stated they called the PD and got put on hold a little before 10:30. They sent someone by to interview the friend about 5 hours after they called the PD to report it. Granted they called the non emergency number not 911, still even my rural Sheriff’s office answers that line within 60 seconds.

      Reportedly she tried to call the cops but didn’t use the emergency line and got stuck on hold for 7 minutes or so. By the time her call had been answered the shooting had already commenced.

    GWB in reply to Gosport. | March 28, 2023 at 4:54 pm

    Patton called the police, but it was already too late.
    Patton explained that she was on hold for seven minutes with the non-emergency line and that Hale had already begun shooting by the time she spoke to the police.
    She tried, but it wasn’t enough. And the shooter put her in this position – so she’ll have to live with it for the rest of her life.

AF_Chief_Master_Sgt | March 28, 2023 at 2:26 pm

One less mentally deranged murderer for the taxpayers to support.

My heart goes out to the families of these victims.

The mother of the killer is an nutcase and should never be allowed to make any commentary in the public domain about anything. She should be dismissed and shunned by society.

Transgender = mentally ill.

Excellent clearing technique. I applaud the officers who entered this building with the intent on stopping a murderer. The officers from Uvalde could do well by attending the same training course.

    henrybowman in reply to AF_Chief_Master_Sgt. | March 28, 2023 at 4:01 pm

    Oh, I can almost bet you they’ve taken the course.

    I watched the bodycam vid several times; it’s really amazing to me as a layman. Such discipline, control, and courage. It gave me goosebumps.

      One of the things about people who do this stuff well, is a switch that goes ON and they slip into a mode where their training comes to the fore. They get “professional” with clear, curt communications, well-executed movements, adherence to discipline. Even sometimes people who don’t have training to fall back on drop into a world of quick analysis and determined action. Kudos to all people who do that in the right moment – firemen, police, soldiers, sailors, airmen, even mall cops and parents.

      I felt sick in my stomach when I saw all the little ones in the playground as the killer pulled in the lot to park

      She could have taken out dozens and never left her car door and just drove away

      NotCoach in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | March 29, 2023 at 8:43 am

      Uvalde it wasn’t.

Why does the Daily Mail have better coverage than our newspapers?

The comments get me.

I can’t imagine sending my kids to school and having to worry about them being shot at. It’s crazy to me, this is one of the richest countries in the world and parents have to worry if their kids will come home from school alive. Unbelievable.

How about I can’t imagine sending my kid to school to be exposed to pornographic material, given the death vax, getting an abortion, getting beat up because they are white (and CRT says it is ok).

So three questions: did she live with her parents? Where did she get the guns? Who was pushing her to transition?

    henrybowman in reply to MarkSmith. | March 28, 2023 at 4:02 pm

    Because the Daily Mail’s swamp shackles and chains apparently don’t apply to non-UK news. Fortunate for us. That loophole won’t last much longer, so enjoy it.

    I do not believe she lived with her mom (no dad mentioned anywhere), as there was a reference to “her apartment” I think.
    We don’t know yet where or when she got them, but she would have been legally eligible to buy them. She did take the time to personalize her rifles (or PCC and short-barreled AR) with her “male name” and some stickers.
    Probably her manifesto will give some clues.

Looks like good work clearing and finding shooter.
My heart goes out to victims families.

They have a Day of Vengeance (actual 2 days) March 31 and April 1st.
From Trans Radical Activist Network:

The Trans/Non-Binary/Gender Non-Conforming/Intersex communities are facing astronomical amounts of hate from the world. At least a 100 Gender Affirming care ban bills have been proposed. Utah SB16 has been passed and West Virginia’s HB2007 is heading to the senate. Our community is frightened. Some have been experiencing mental health crisis’ due to the political climate in our country. On 1/31/2023, Donald Trump announced he will punish healthcare providers and promised that “this madness will end.”

    henrybowman in reply to MarkSmith. | March 28, 2023 at 6:51 pm

    “The Trans/Non-Binary/Gender Non-Conforming/Intersex communities are facing astronomical amounts of hate from the world.”
    Want it to stop? Just stop acting so damn hateful.

How dismaying and galling is it that tranny terrorism is now an actual phenomenon in American society, thanks to the decades-long moral and cultural rot propagated by the vile Dumb-o-crats?

RESIST the Trans Resistance Network for its justification of child killing.

Especially for garbage like this:

“A Twitter profile by the name of Trans Resistance Network wrot”e on Monday that “anti-trans hate” has “consequences” in relation to the killing of six people at a Christian school in Nashville, TN.

The man who killed six people — including three children — in Nashville “felt he had no other effective way to be seen than to lash out by taking the life of others,” according to the Trans Resistance Network’s statement.”

Degenerates.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/03/28/trans-group-on-nashville-shooting-anti-trans-hate-has-consequences/

    This is so utterly vile and evil. It’s a brazen form of cultural and moral extortion — “Show total obeisance and deference to the tranny narcissists and their obnoxiously totalitarian agenda, or, reap the consequences of murder and mayhem committed by tranny terrorists.”

    texansamurai in reply to oldschooltwentysix. | March 29, 2023 at 10:26 am

    like most adults who’ve been in this life for awhile, have experiencend my share of very difficult situations–nothing special about me, though–regardless, no matter how extreme the situation, how dire, have NEVER considered picking-up a weapon and taking the lives of innocent people as an “option” or as an “effective way” or whatever to resolve a situation / predicament–NEVER–for a human being to even suggest or presume or condone such a thing is demented, sick, twisted–and in my humble opinion, a crystal clear proof of mental illness