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McCarthy Loses 13th Round of House Speaker Votes, Adjourned Until 10 PM ET

McCarthy Loses 13th Round of House Speaker Votes, Adjourned Until 10 PM ET

It’s time for the House to vote for Speaker…again…for the fourth day.

UPDATE 3:40 PM: House is adjourned until 10 PM ET.

UPDATE 2:56 PM: So close…yet so far away.

UPDATE 2:26 PM: Well, well, well. Rep. Andy Harris changed his vote to McCarthy. Too late as “Others” already got five votes.

UPDATE 2:24 PM: Once again, Rep. Bob Good casts the fifth vote against McCarthy. That means we’re going 14 rounds.

UPDATE 1:57 PM: 13th round starts with Rep. James Comer nominating McCarthy. Rep. Veronica Escobar nominates Hakeem Jeffries.

UPDATE 1:22 PM: McCarthy loses the 12th round, but only seven people voted against him.

https://twitter.com/LoganR2WH/status/1611429417930362881

UPDATE 12:49PM McCarthy lost the 12th round when Rep. Bob Good voted for Jim Jordan. We’ll have a 13th round.

UPDATE 12:37: Rep. Bishop switched and voted for McCarthy! Rep. Brechen also switched to McCarthy. Rep. Donalds switches to McCarthy. Plus two more.

UPDATE 12:12 PM: Rep. Mike Garcia nominates Kevin McCarthy. Rep. James Clyburn nominates Hakeem Jeffries. Rep. Matt Gaetz nominates Jim Jordan. Rep. Lauren Boebert nominates Kevin Hern.

UPDATE 12:04 PM: Let’s go! Rep. Elise Stefanik says a quorum is not present. The House needs a majority of the members-elect present. That will likely happen and the vote will start soon.

It’s time for the House to vote for Speaker…again…for the fourth day. The voting has been pretty consistent, with McCarthy receiving between 200 and 202 votes, Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries at 212 votes, and others getting around 20.

What will happen today? I’m not optimistic. Are you? At least they’re not spending money or passing bad bills.

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JJSedron, writer at aceofspadeshq

Kevin McCarthy on 1/6/21 – “The violence, destruction, and chaos we saw earlier was unacceptable, undemocratic, and un-American. The President bears responsibility for Wednesday’s attack on Congress by mob rioters.”

Kevin McCarthy on 1/13/21 – “The president bears responsibility for Wednesday’s attack on Congress by mob rioters. He should have immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. These facts require immediate action by President Trump, accept his share of responsibility, quell the brewing unrest and ensure President-elect Biden is able to successfully begin his term.”

Putting aside the issue of Trump’s 2024 candidacy, while I agree with those that the events of Election Day 2020 culminating in 1/6/21 should not be the main focus and thrust of his candidacy, those events cannot, should not and must never be forgiven nor forgotten. There is no person in this nation, in and out of politics, who is more innocent of the charges levied against him than Donald J. Trump. He was dead right; they’re not necessarily after him, they’re after all of us, and he just stood in the way.

UPDATE: Now all that said about Trump, I am particularly incredulous at the fact that he is going to the mattresses to support the man who blamed him for the violence of 1/6. That makes zero sense, but I digress.

I agree, I don’t get it AT.ALL….

    Exiliado in reply to gonzotx. | January 6, 2023 at 12:32 pm

    Is there an update/edit button for the cool kids?

    Danny in reply to gonzotx. | January 6, 2023 at 3:03 pm

    So you are finally admitting there isn’t an issue involved in this only petty vindictiveness for him acknowledging the results of 2020.

    Thanks.

    Now that we have secured a plurality, despite literally two years to establish an alternative no viable alternate candidate has been selected, we should consider making a speaker by plurality so Jim Jordan could do his job as effectively and efficiently as possible.

    We need to work to put Biden under the spotlight and stop letting him skate by.

      gonzotx in reply to Danny. | January 6, 2023 at 3:43 pm

      No Danny, as usual, you don’t understand as the article/post
      Please check your DJT hypocrisy/hypertension

      LEDs to strokes

      henrybowman in reply to Danny. | January 6, 2023 at 3:50 pm

      So, in your mind, directly accusing the president of “responsibility for Wednesday’s attack on Congress by mob rioters” and the crimes of “violence, destruction, and chaos” is merely “acknowledging the results of 2020.”
      No wonder you have so few friends at school.

        You do realize the election was over long before Jan 6th 2021 right? You do realize Mike Pence had ZERO authority to do anything besides certify yes? You also realize how much damage the riot did to the Republican Party?

        By the way if the rally wasn’t what got people to momentarily lose their minds what did?

        Was it aliens?

        Or are you suggesting the rioters are just subhuman beasts?

        They attended a rally that had as its goal making them furious and got furious, some of them crossed the line as a result and yes Trump as the organizer, main speaker, and creator of the rally does bear responsibility.

        The best case scenario for how that protest could have gone would have been minor damage to us because it doesn’t become a riot. Instead we got the worst case scenario.

      geronl in reply to Danny. | January 6, 2023 at 5:39 pm

      He’s an Assistant Democrat who halts more conservative legislation than anyone else

    Kevin! McCarthy is a swamp putz. Now matter what deals are made with him, when the chips are down, he will be a swamp putz and act like one.

    Something to think about: WE are about to put this swamp putz to be third in line for the presidency.

2smartforlibs | January 6, 2023 at 12:13 pm

For the 200: YOU can’t win this and the deal you cut will never happen. You’re the embarrassment at this point.

Reportedly they been negotiating with terrorists in an attempt to get Kevin elected.

    gonzotx in reply to Paula. | January 6, 2023 at 2:17 pm

    Didn’t Crenshaw call the Republican patriots “terrorists “

    What a putz

    Crenmccain…

      henrybowman in reply to gonzotx. | January 6, 2023 at 3:51 pm

      Whoever came up with “Eyepatch McCain” deserves a Gibson’s cookie.

        I hate making fun of someone’s deformity, unless it’s self imposed: like Fat Stacey Abrams, or Fat Michelle Obama, or “Hammer-Time” Pelosi.

        Crenshaw is sickening, but making fun of his eye missing is not fair-play.

        On the other hand, his willful blindness of of seeing eye is.

Leadership would actually be demonstrated by backing a consensus candidate. That would show some level of humility, and putting the group/principles above self. Which is the prime indicator of someone unworthy of the position, IMO.

    GWB in reply to GWB. | January 6, 2023 at 12:55 pm

    The lack of that would be the prime indicator….
    Sheesh.

    healthguyfsu in reply to GWB. | January 6, 2023 at 1:09 pm

    Does one even exist?

      CommoChief in reply to healthguyfsu. | January 6, 2023 at 1:41 pm

      Not gonna see a realistic consensus nominee emerge until McCarthy stands down. As long as he is pursuing his dream, which has been repeatedly rejected in a dozen+ consecutive votes, no nominee with a realistic chance of securing a majority will emerge.

      IMO this will rinse and repeat until McCarthy makes enough concessions to secure a majority. The question is will those concessions be offered to the remaining r dissidents or to the d/prog?

On the 12th round of voting
my constituents gave to me

2smartforlibs | January 6, 2023 at 1:30 pm

McCarthy is being forced to make concessions he never thought he would. Those concessions will change the way the House operates.

He got 12 more votes?

    Paula in reply to gonzotx. | January 6, 2023 at 2:33 pm

    He maxed out.

    txvet2 in reply to gonzotx. | January 6, 2023 at 2:38 pm

    It’s not surprising. The “original” opposition was only 5, with 15 more joining them more or less conditionally pending the outcome of negotiations. Looks like that group is pretty much satisfied by what they’ve been promised (in writing, if the stories are right). Will McCarthy follow through? Maybe, maybe not.

McCartney for speaker!

“What will happen today? I’m not optimistic. Are you?”

I’m optimistic that McCarthy won’t get it.

    Colonel Travis in reply to Paula. | January 6, 2023 at 2:15 pm

    It doesn’t matter, he will ultimately be speaker. And it will prove how impossible it is to change course in this country for the foreseeable future, if at all.

      Have you forgotten the Alamo Col Travis? Have you forgotten the freedom fighters who would rather die than give up? I guess we don’t expect that any more.

        txvet2 in reply to Paula. | January 6, 2023 at 2:31 pm

        There are no Davy Crocketts in this Congress.

        gonzotx in reply to Paula. | January 6, 2023 at 2:51 pm

        There is Congresswoman Lauren Opal Boebert and Gaetz

        Colonel Travis in reply to Paula. | January 6, 2023 at 2:54 pm

        Am I a member of Congress? No. What am I supposed to do to twist Andy Biggs’s arm? He’s not my rep. None of the holdouts is my rep.

        People need to understand how bad it really is. Congress does not operate like it once did, not even 15 years ago. It has changed dramatically. Power is concentrated in the speaker like never before. You can thank asshole Paul Ryan for that precedent. Pelosi ran with it, McCarthy has it. Almost all the other members are just fine with this model. He will not be overthrown. They don’t work for you. They work for themselves. Remembering the Alamo will not change that. Donald Trump won’t change that. Nothing will change it except something so drastic that I can’t even imagine what it would be.

        We are screwed. Accept it and try to come up with a solution if you want. I have no answers.

          Are you sure you are really Col Travis?

          Paula visiting the Alamo: “Those defenders are such an inspiration to me, especially Col Travis.”

          Tour guide: “Yes, they are an inspiration to us all.”

          Paula: “What were Col Travis last words?”

          Tour guide: “We are screwed.”

      You’re likely right that he’ll win. It was always the most likely outcome. Too bad, but even Chip Roy has thrown in the towel, and he’s as conservative as it gets. If it’s any consolation (and it isn’t much), some polling indicates that Republican voters are with the rebels, not the machine.

I have to think that threatening to resign is a mistake for Gaetz. After all, that would be more than satisfactory for McCarthy.

    henrybowman in reply to txvet2. | January 6, 2023 at 3:55 pm

    In realpolitik, Gaetz is quite aware that leading the opposition to McCarthy will turn his career into a living hell if/when McCarthy finally wins a vote, so resigning may actually be preferable for him.

I thought that too

Why is McCarthy still considered a viable candidate? What is wrong with the people who keep voting for a leader who has already failed his first test of leadership?

    txvet2 in reply to irv. | January 6, 2023 at 3:24 pm

    Unfortunately, the optics are in his favor. In the beginning, the holdouts looked like Horatius at the Bridge, but now, after losing most of their support, they just look like stubborn malcontents, and that’s how they’ll be portrayed in the media.

      henrybowman in reply to txvet2. | January 6, 2023 at 3:57 pm

      I learned that my Rep, Gosar, changed his vote to McCarthy about three minutes after sending him a nice thank-you note for being a steadfast holdout. Hope it embarrasses him half as much as it frustrates me

    txvet2 in reply to irv. | January 6, 2023 at 3:27 pm

    So now they’re voting to adjourn until tonight, so they can do what they should have been doing for the past several months – do their negotiating off the floor of the House.

    GWB in reply to irv. | January 6, 2023 at 3:45 pm

    What is wrong with the people who keep voting for a leader who has already failed his first test of leadership?
    They are establishment. They don’t want to upset the seniority apple cart.

    nordic prince in reply to irv. | January 6, 2023 at 5:06 pm

    The attitude of Congress is, as my father used to phrase it, “Hooray for me and the hell with you.”

The Gentle Grizzly | January 6, 2023 at 3:31 pm

The show is ending. Mac Carthy is gaining a vote here a vote there… it’s his within the next few rounds.

The “holdouts” will ultimately vote McCarthy “for the good of the country”.

    They’re lawyers. They’ll smile, declare victory, then go ahead and surrender. I’d expect that the final negotiating point, since they seem to have gotten everything else they wanted, would be a promise not to retaliate against the holdouts.

      The Gentle Grizzly in reply to txvet2. | January 6, 2023 at 3:41 pm

      Your last sentence tells it like it is: Congress has one member. The Speaker.

        Colonel Travis in reply to The Gentle Grizzly. | January 6, 2023 at 4:22 pm

        Confirmed by Justin Amash. Nothing gets through Congress now without approval from the speaker. I have some issues with the guy but this is a good interview explaining how frustrating it is.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEx2wkoRk2w

        Back in the previous century when I worked for a member of Congress, it was not this bad, but it was bad enough that I was disgusted and had to leave. They’ve been insulating themselves from the citizens for a long time. It will be extremely difficult to dismantle everything. I think that’s probably the only way to do it, starting over from scratch, which will be very unpleasant.

          According to Dan Bishop and others on Kudlow, they actually got some concessions that (if actually implemented) will diffuse that power somewhat – things like open rules, actual spending bills produced in the appropriate committees instead of a star chamber, etc. Anyway, it looks like they’re ready to declare victory and let McCarthy keep his office.

The Gentle Grizzly | January 6, 2023 at 3:49 pm

In the 10pm session they will adjourn for the weekend. Everyone of them will be on their knees, praying for an event that will distract the public from what is going on. If such an event takes place, they will all screwed back to the halls of Congress to choose McCarthy and hope that nobody notices.

Yes, I’m that cynical.

Adjourn until 10pm, maybe they are hoping their friendly lobbyist will take them out for a nice steak dinner and a bottle or two of alcohol, They just enough show up for a quorum and with a classic swamp ending, votes are taken and McCarthy is elected at 3am.

I tried calling nearly all the 20, especially chip Roy, told him how disgusted I was with him… to a voice machine, they refuse, most to answer the phone

However the One eyed Mccain did have a staffer, she probably won’t answer the phone again….

From LR

Probably bet on it

Why adjourn? Why return at 10:00pm on a Friday evening? Simply, because the McCarthy team is counting on several House members (mostly Democrats) not being in attendance for the quorum, facilitating a lower threshold of the vote to achieve a majority.

435/434 members present = 218 votes needed
433/432 members present = 217 votes needed
431/430 members present = 216 votes needed
429/428 members present = 215 votes needed
etc.

    txvet2 in reply to gonzotx. | January 6, 2023 at 4:50 pm

    Maybe, but that wouldn’t be in tune with the Democrat strategy to date, which is to make them keep voting.

Half these Democrats have been at home voting by proxy for 2 years

Good. I just listened to Fifth Column podcast with an interview featuring Justin Amash. McCarthy is a get along, go along Swamp Creature who will lie to get what he wants which is power. You have to wonder about someone so desperate to be in charge that he will get 10 no votes, threaten everyone who defies him and moves into the Speakers Office like he is entitled to it. Screw him and all Swamp Creatures of The Cathedral.

Floor votes on Amendments which have not happened since 2016, time to read Bills before voting, all Earmarks featuring the massive pork nonsense debated and voted on in the House which will expose who is pushing it..none seems too far out of whack to me.

Hmm…so when does ambition for power finally takes a backseat to the good of the Country? Not quite yet as the Cathedral is strong.

McCarthy @GOPLOSER is the most arrogant, entitled, hubristic minion of the swamp

Say, where is Rona “Limo Lamebrain” Romney McDaniel in all this? Absent, as usual.

It’s a times like this where I just remind myself that a Gathering of Baboons is a “Congress” and remember the correlation.