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Merrick Garland Appoints Special Counsel for DOJ Trump Investigations

Merrick Garland Appoints Special Counsel for DOJ Trump Investigations

“Based on recent developments, including the former president’s announcement that he is a candidate for president in the next election and the sitting president’s stated intention to be a candidate as well, I have concluded that it is in the public interest to appoint a special counsel.”

Merrick Garland appointed Jack Smith as special counsel for the DOJ’s investigation into the files found at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago along with “key aspects of a separate probe involving the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection and efforts to undo the 2020 election.”

Has anything happened to anyone denying the 2016 election? Didn’t think so.


The move, announced just three days after Trump formally launched his 2024 candidacy, is a recognition of the unmistakable political implications of two investigations that involve not only a former president but also a current White House hopeful.

Garland said Friday that Trump’s announcement of his presidential candidacy and President Joe Biden’s likely 2024 run were factors in his decision to appoint Jack Smith, a veteran prosecutor, to be the special counsel. Garland said the appointment would allow prosecutors to continue their work “indisputably guided” only by the facts and the law.

“The Department of Justice has long recognized that in certain extraordinary cases, it is in the public’s interest to appoint a special prosecutor to independently manage an investigation and prosecution,” Garland said from the Justice Department’s podium. “Based on recent developments, including the former president’s announcement that he is a candidate for president in the next election and the sitting president’s stated intention to be a candidate as well, I have concluded that it is in the public interest to appoint a special counsel.”

Though the appointment installs a new supervisor atop the probes — both of which are expected to accelerate now that the midterm elections are over — the special counsel will still report to Garland, who has ultimate say of whether to bring charges.

Smith used to work as an “assistant U.S. attorney and chief to the DOJ’s public integrity section.”

Since 2018, Smith has been in charge of “investigation and adjudicating war crimes in Kosovo” for the International Criminal Court.

The DOJ was quick to note that Smith is a registered independent. I guess they think that will make people think the investigations and special counsel are not political.


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“Garland said the appointment would allow prosecutors to continue their work “indisputably guided” only by the facts and the law.”

Tell it to the concerned parents you called “domestic terrorists.”

The day this corrupt hack is “guided by the facts and the law,” will be the same day monkeys fly out of my hindquarters. He will waste millions of tax dollars to insinuate the President Trump did something.

Allow me to translate Garland’s remarks in every day English:

“Look’ we tried to stop Trump but we have nothing that will stick. Even our best DOJ top dog ,Lisa Monaco, can’t find a charge to pin on Trump. And since Joe wants to run again in 24, We went to our minor league bullpen at The Hague to call in Jack Smith.”

    That was just about perfect.

    I would add:

    “And this gives me cover when Jack Smith doesn’t find Jack S___”

    I can’t imagine that charges or not as to the materials taken to Florida have long since been determined as warranted, or not. Therefore, this achieves what is probably the main purpose of doing this – dragging it out as long as possible. By the way, the Mueller investigation was the same thing, as the facts and the illegitimacy of the “Dossier” were known almost immediately.

      Dimsdale in reply to jb4. | November 18, 2022 at 9:10 pm

      They just want to have the insinuation of a crime to throw into the news, e.g. “Former Pres. Trump, now under investigation by a Special Counsel, accused pResident Biden of …….”

      It puts the Sword of Damocles over Pres. Trump’s head, again.

      Pres. Trump should just keep reminding the public of the many, many times they have falsely accused him of doing things, and this is just another attempt to discredit him.

        randian in reply to Dimsdale. | November 19, 2022 at 4:02 am

        this is just another attempt to discredit him

        Yes, and when the fraud machine wipes out the Republicans in 2024 like it did this year the media will say in unison “it’s because everybody hates Trump”. After, of course, another two years of pushing the “abandon Trump” meme.

          artichoke in reply to randian. | November 20, 2022 at 2:33 am

          I think we’d do better with DeSantis. It’s not abandoning Trump. It’s not about Trump, it’s about winning the next election for president. We don’t owe Trump, or anyone, our vote.

        artichoke in reply to Dimsdale. | November 20, 2022 at 2:35 am

        NY AG seems to have him on misstating the values of his properties. Trump is even blaming his wife for picking the wrong candidates to back in 2022; that is pathetic. You don’t have to prove a criminal charge to see that he has a ton of baggage that makes him less electable than he was in 2016.

          Desdenova in reply to artichoke. | November 24, 2022 at 1:15 pm

          Since when do individuals state property values to get loans? Banks use appraisals. This is all about nothing which is why its in civil court.

    Concise in reply to Ghostrider. | November 18, 2022 at 8:36 pm

    I remember when it was grounds for impeachment and removal from office to even suggest that some improprieties might have existed with the firing of a Ukraine prosecutor at the behest of certain vice-president in order to protect someone named Hunter. Those were the days. The Burisma days.

      Desdenova in reply to Concise. | November 24, 2022 at 1:13 pm

      Since when do individuals state property values to get loans? Banks use appraisals. This is all about nothing which is why its in civil court.

    JohnSmith100 in reply to Ghostrider. | November 19, 2022 at 9:57 am

    “And since Joe wants to run again in 24”

    Isn’t that Jill running again by proxy.

Looks like the Biden enterprise gets more criminal by the day, trying to deflect its own conduct. Another shameful move to a police state

I expected nothing better of that nazi pedophile in the white house, or his Gestapo.

Bucky Barkingham | November 18, 2022 at 3:24 pm

This “special counsel” will not drag things out like Durham and Mueller. Charges will be recommended in time for the primaries.

    OwenKellogg-Engineer in reply to Bucky Barkingham. | November 18, 2022 at 3:51 pm

    Just in time for the primaries, at that.

    Depends on how the primaries go. If Trump is winning, maybe he waits until he can indict the nominee which places the republicans in a real bind.

      How’s the tired of winning thing going? For me, I’m tired of losing. Three cycles of losses? Yeah, I’m done. He didn’t deliver, no matter the reason, he failed. Next!

        Just curious: McConnell failed us in SEVERAL cycles, Romney-McDaniel failed us in three cycles and McCarthy failed us in two – why no comment on that, instead of Trump?

          That’s starting to get obvious.

          1. McConnell’s last election as head of the Republican Party was 2014 a Republican wave year that saw increasing house majority and taking the senate.

          2. Mitt Romney is not going to be given the chance to run for president again and he has not been put in charge of anything except his senate seat from Utah since losing 2012.

          3. McDaniel yes I agree replace Trumps RNC pick

          4. When was he head of the Republican Party exactly?

          All you did was “MUH SCAPEGOAT” to avoid the fact that Trump delivered; for Democrats this year.

          Mastriano’s loss margin matches the loss margin in California. That is pathetic and it was completely predictable; and was predicted by Republicans like McConnell who said DO NOT PICK MASTRIANO (caps used due to lack of highlighter not meant as yelling).

          You just want to do the same thing again and again hoping for a different result.

          Trump is one of the proven winners the Republicans have.
          No mention of the Turtle’s torpedoing of some pro-Trump Republicans in the midterms. Did that not contribute to the “cycle of losses”? Or is Trump so powerful that he should be expected to single-handedly carry a party (including overcoming those in the party who sabotage him at every chance) that as a team doesn’t play to win? We’ve been complaining about this since before Trump, but now it’s Trump’s fault?
          Fuzzy, please step away from the Kool Aid.

          I think you have answered your own question, no? “Or is Trump so powerful that he should be expected to single-handedly carry a party (including overcoming those in the party who sabotage him at every chance) that as a team doesn’t play to win?” Trump said he was that powerful, that he would make us tired of winning. What’s happened, though, in the real world?

          According to team Trump, his defecation smells like roses. But the truth is that there are a vast number of centrist voters who will never ever vote for Trump. Sadly, Trump is just as toxic as Hillary to normie voters, maybe more so. We don’t have to like that, but we have do have to acknowledge it, no?

          McConnell is in the Senate. He’s not really a national figure whose coat-tails will lead to glory. Neither was Ken DeLay or even Newt Gingrich who was far more charismatic than McConnell.

          Your argument is my CPA is bad because my mechanic failed to fix my car. It’s just silly. McConnell has a role and he does it well despite the RINO traitors in his party.

          “Trump is one of the proven winners the Republicans have.”

          Trump clearly held the Republcians back this cycle. So much so that Democrats, despite losing the house, are pretty happy because they didn’t lose nearly as bad as they thought they were.

          Seriously, they were projected, based on the overwhelming red-wave captured in the polls, to lose up to 60 seats. Instead, it was just 8. Despite a 5-million vote advantage!

          Not 60, just 8.

          Where are the other 52?

          Also, why did the Republican make no headway and look to go backward in the Senate (Warnock clearly looks like he’s going to take GA.)

          So tell me all about this ‘winner’ whose childish temper-tantrum lead the Republicans to the over-whelming victory despite the fact that the current Administration is the worst in the past century? Oh wait, he doesn’t exist! He’s just a has-been clown who are going get Dementia Joe reelected.

        Fuzzy, every failure is on you. You hated Trump because he took out your favorite, Ted Cruz, the man that can barely beat Beeto in Texas. Trump is quite simply the best president we’ve had since Ike. I can post the list of all the accomplishments that Trump did on his own, no help from you or the fellow haters.
        Those losses you keep trying to pin on Trump are not his, they’re yours. Those losses have been engineered by the people you support, the McConnells, the McCarthy’s, the marxists. You have supported every deep state rino in the country, McCain and Romney come to mind.

        You will not even discus the election theft, plain for everyone to see. Not a single post at LI, no comments from any of you other than pretending it doesn’t exist. Unless I missed something and I can’t read everything.

        You keep calling Trump a loser. Did you call Bush a loser? The man that gave us all the deep state apparatus now aimed squarely at the American people? Have you called McConnell/McCarthy losers? Have you acknowledged that those two worked against any MAGA candidate chances of winning?

        Loser is the right word. You just apply it in the wrong direction

          Danny in reply to Barry. | November 19, 2022 at 12:10 pm

          Here lets do it this way

          McConnell had the idea of nominating the governor of Arizona to run on economic and social issues

          Donald Trump had the idea of nominating Blake Masters to run on Donald Trump

          Blake Masters got the nomination and lost

          Same thing happened for all of Trump’s competitive picks

          Mitch McConnell had the idea of letting grievances go and nominating strong incumbents for re-election in their districts (i.e. Grand Rapids as an example)

          In our example (repeated all over the country by the way) Donald Trump’s idea was replace the incumbent with a stop the steal candidate

          Trump got his way and the stop the steal candidates lost.

          If we had listened to McConnell we would have a margin of error in the house and the senate right now. Instead we listened to Trump and frankly ran on Trump.

          You think Democrats supported Mastriano and Bolduc in the primary out of love for getting the tougher opponent?

          DaveGinOly in reply to Barry. | November 20, 2022 at 1:55 am

          Replying to Danny.
          McConnell’s candidates may have won. And then where would we be? With a Senate full of people beholden to the Deep State, and ready to block the work of any populist Republican who might be elected president, that’s where. I get that Trump’s candidates (mostly) lost, but Trump-hating candidates, or candidates who will not support America-first policies, are not good for the nation. Why should we vote for them? Because they’re less bad than Democrats? No, they are not. They are ambling towards the same objectives towards which the Democrats are rushing headlong. They are the Uniparty. They differ only in their apparent zeal for their cause. That’s part of the charade.

          artichoke in reply to Barry. | November 20, 2022 at 2:44 am

          DaveGinOly the Senate is almost entirely a team sport. Almost the only thing that matters is how many in your party you have vs. how many in the opposing party. It doesn’t matter which R you elect, as long as it’s a R. Even Mitt Romney is better than a D.

          That is just the way it is.

          Danny in reply to Barry. | November 20, 2022 at 10:11 pm

          Replying to Dave

          McConnell’s candidates winning would have meant the end of Biden judges

          McConnell’s candidates winning would have meant having some influence over budgets

          McConnell’s candidates winning would have meant control of major committees.

          Your comment on beholden to the deep state is far beneath contemptible.

          By the way the list of Republican candidates who support America first policies are almost all of them Trump’s agenda is just the same old Republican agenda with new paint.

          Heh, yeah, no one has been more supportive of Trump on LI than me; I’ve defended him against the lying liars who lie more than anyone here. This isn’t about Trump, it’s about America. And if you think he can win, that’s fine, but stop being a complete insane asylum patient in your defense of that. It’s not just wrong but comes off as a bit . . . crazy.

        I didn’t see Trump’s name on a ballot, did you? Like most election cycles, most of the time the incumbent won, even when that incumbent was a no-good communist traitor.. Trump backed a lot of folks trying to unseat incumbents, and a few even managed it,

        Blame Trump if you want, but there’s plenty of blame to go around and the establishment republicans have earned the vast majority of it.

        Let’s also not discount the slow-rolling of the count while they cheated those contests. There’s no good reason for them to take that long to count so few votes.

          Blake Masters featured talking about how much he loved Trump in all of his adds.

          Ironclaw in reply to Ironclaw. | November 19, 2022 at 5:13 pm

          I guess you missed his stances on immigration, crime, abortion, education, CRT, energy, firearms and a whole host of other things. Probably got swallowed up by your massive, stage 4 TDS.

          In no way is discussing the images he chose to project, and the adds he chose to run in a state Trump lost an example of TDS which frankly people like yourself are just using as a get out of jail free card.

          His adds all featured him discussing Trump no matter what the topic.

          You say the people repulsed by that had TDS?

          Fine that means Trump himself will not win Arizona.

          Ron DeSantis hasn’t talked about CRT he has legislated dramatically reducing the ability of academia, and corporations to teach it and reducing its legality in the k-12 classroom.

          Want to discuss illegal immigration?

          How about Martha’s vinyard?

          Unlike Blake Masters Ron DeSantis did not make his campaign all about Trump and Trump praise.

          By the way Mark Kelly instead of doing the drama music and the “MUHHHH BIDEEEENNNN!!!!” Mark Kelly never mentioned Biden. The way he campaigned a low information voter would have thought he was a moderate. He featured himself going to speak to Republican mayors around Arizona.

          Blake Masters made a decision that unlike the governor he would campaign on Trump. He made Trump a part of all of his adds.

          Ben Shapiro did a fantastic breakdown of his adds and why he wasn’t resonating. Perhaps instead of reflexive defense you should actually try to rethink your devotion.

          DaveGinOly in reply to Ironclaw. | November 20, 2022 at 2:01 am

          Replying to Danny.
          Kelly didn’t mention Biden? There’s a newsflash. Of course he didn’t mention Biden! Most Dems avoided him like a fifth jab. His numbers are in the tank. Why would any Dem in the midterms have mentioned Biden?
          Trump was a popular president with actual positive results during his presidency. If you and/or the American people don’t know about his achievements as president, that’s not his fault. Media coverage of his administration was nearly entirely negative, even while America prospered. We now have a president who needs a note card to find his way to the toilet in the morning and our media can’t sing his praises enough, even though his “accomplishments” have all been disasters.

          Replying to Dave

          Trump isn’t more popular than Biden. Trump is extremely unpopular.

          Mark Kelly ran a highly competent campaign. Blake Masters didn’t.

          Like it or not people have made up their minds on Trump. They hate him.

          I have posted his actual election results plenty of times but here

          2016-Hillary got 48% of the vote to Trump’s 46%, while barely losing WI, MI and PA. Note that this was weakness by Hillary Trump got fewer votes in Wisconsin 2016 than Romney did in 2012 on the road to losing Wisconsin in a landslide.

          2018-Blue wave

          2020-Decisive defeat

          2021-Helped Democrats retake the senate

          2022-Red Wave defeated in ideal circumstances for a red wave.

          People do not like him; they have spoken loud and clear multiple times.

          If you want Biden to have another term make Trump your man.

        You did that on purpose.😆

        artichoke in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | November 20, 2022 at 2:50 am

        And as a candidate himself, he’s now got a long string of baggage he didn’t have in 2016. For me it’s (1) being the father of the vax and evading the question of whether he took it, (2) the J6 people rotting in jail that he is teasing he might help if we elect him president but didn’t do anything for while he was president, and (3) the various stuff the Dems gin up, including the NY AG finding that allegedly, his family vastly misstated the values of properties on loan applications, and whatever the J6 committee can give Merrick Garland to persecute him with. These attacks are political but they can score real damage.

        I’m with Fuzzy. I want to have that 2016 feeling again of winning the election and watching the Dems cry. I don’t think Trump is the best chance to get there. Oh, and he’ll be about 80. He’s losing it already. The voice is the same but the words coming out are no longer clever.

    They probably already have them written, like the way Biden had all those preprepared EOs for him to sign when he was installed into office.

      Dr.Dave in reply to Dimsdale. | November 18, 2022 at 9:44 pm

      Your a real piece of low down sorry. A man is harassed like we live in a bannana state and instead of calling out the injustice, you call out the victim. You have totally lost me. ???

        artichoke in reply to Dr.Dave. | November 20, 2022 at 2:41 am

        You mean Trump is harassed? That is unfortunate, certainly. (You don’t mean the J6 people rotting in jail that he forgot, talk about harassment!) But it isn’t necessary to nominate him for president to bring justice to him. We deserve whatever candidate can win the general election. It’s not about Trump but about the whole country.

    On the contrary, I think they’ll wait until after the convention and hope we forget he’s there. Then if the Republicans nominate Trump, the charges appear. I want the charges to appear early, so we see their hand and can nominate the best candidate. They’re better poker players than that. Merrick Garland is corrupt but he isn’t dumb at all.

Ah, the ‘salting of the earth’ phase of the Get Trump operation begins in earnest.

They’ll drag this out past the 2024 election cycle.

Trump is toast as far as 2024 goes.

Go ahead, downvote me. I know you want to. But it won’t change the fact that The Swamp won.

They are deathly afraid of DJT winning in 2024.

Paul – The Democrats Propaganda Ministry, Deep State are the ones who put down DJT, they wanted Trump fatigue, 2 impeachment and nothing stuck, 4 years of we have him now and nothing to show for it.

    Paul in reply to Skip. | November 18, 2022 at 3:41 pm

    I don’t disagree with anything you wrote. They stymied his administration and now it continues to be one smear campaign after another to make him a less viable candidate. Personally I would vote for him again if he won the nomination, but heck I’d vote for a pile of dog sh*t over Joe Biden* or any other Democrat at this point. But lots of Republicans and Moderates simply won’t vote for Trump, and a lot of that is due to the incessant smear campaigns from the left. It’s disgusting, but it’s reality.

      OwenKellogg-Engineer in reply to Paul. | November 18, 2022 at 3:52 pm

      Election interference much?

      jb4 in reply to Paul. | November 18, 2022 at 4:55 pm

      I agree 100%. 2022 had the best setup in my lifetime for the Republicans to win by a mile. It was not even close, for three reasons, abysmal failure to adapt to the mail-in ballot game, for two elections now, poor Trump-backed candidates in key races, and DJT rubbing off everywhere else but the FL landslide. 2024 is the year of the younger candidate and the party that recognizes that first with a credible candidate – not AOC, who will be eligible – will have an advantage.

        gonzotx in reply to jb4. | November 18, 2022 at 5:54 pm

        No! The candidates for Trump amd MAGA were great but the abstract cheating remained the same
        Az is a cesspool what happened there is beyond Venezuela

        We apparently can’t change the ballot harvesting amd the machines until we are in power so we have to play the game and harvest the ballots till kingdom come
        It’s all insane.
        Kari Lake won, bet my life on it

        gonzotx in reply to jb4. | November 18, 2022 at 5:55 pm

        One word,
        Fetterman… great candidate
        What a guy, and then that dead guy, who can forget the dead guy!
        Gray candidate, a little quiet, but great candidate

          Paula in reply to gonzotx. | November 18, 2022 at 7:17 pm

          What’s the difference between Fetterman and the dead guy?

          Well, they both won. Fetterman could have been beaten, however, by a candidate . . . oh, I don’t know . . . actually from Pennsylvania? Call me crazy, but I’m not voting for some TV doctor who floats into my state with zero clue about it. No matter who “endorses” him.

          But then I’m crazy, I still make my own decisions and don’t care who endorsed whom.

          Dimsdale in reply to gonzotx. | November 18, 2022 at 9:18 pm

          Yeah, but Fetterman? I mean, the guy was incompetent before his stroke, now he is just a rubberstamping puppet. How bad could Oz have really been? Hillary seemed to have a career as a carpetbagger….

          “What’s the difference between Fetterman and the dead guy?…”

          It’s easier to move Fetterman from one place to another.

        Apparently, people are still in the dark about things that have going on. Although it has started, it take longer than liked to turn a ship.

      Voyager in reply to Paul. | November 18, 2022 at 5:27 pm

      Same thing will happen to any Republican nominee. Remember how Romney was literally Hitler, a dog killer, and a creepy skin collector?

      There is not a Republican alive who they will not paint as the next chimpymchitlerburten. Yes, even if they’re black, Jewish and/or female. Or Muslim, or any anatomical religious or ethnic combination.

      You have to get over trying to be “acceptable” to them. You won’t be, ever.

    Dr.Dave in reply to Skip. | November 18, 2022 at 3:53 pm

    So we fold to the any means necessary fascist commies?
    I get it. Let’s get someone who is more electable. Will they damage that person as well?

    gonzotx in reply to Skip. | November 18, 2022 at 4:05 pm

    They have Saint DeSantis waiting in the background

    All part of the plan

      If DeSantis gets the nomination, are you going to vote for him?

        gonzotx in reply to Paul. | November 18, 2022 at 5:56 pm


          Well, that’s very interesting indeed. So it’s not the country you care about, just Trump? Better to hand us all over to Biden (or Harris or Newsom) than to let a Republican take Trump’s prize?

          I’ll vote for Trump if he wins the nomination, just like I did the last two times, but it would not be a vote FOR Trump this time (it wasn’t in ’16, either, but Hillary looked to be too close for comfort in Florida, so I voted Trump AGAINST Hillary . . . never regretted it. And voted FOR Trump in 2020).

          So I guess I just don’t get this Trump or woohoo more Biden thing you have going on. What if, God forbid, he dropped dead tomorrow of a coronary? After all the conspiracy theories died down about how geriatric men never have heart attacks, what’s left for you? Democrats all the way? Bizarre.

          That’s what I figured you would say. People like you are the reason that Republicans can’t win. You’ll get butthurt that your guy doesn’t win, so you’ll take your little Trump ball and go home. What a loser.

          CommoChief in reply to gonzotx. | November 18, 2022 at 7:36 pm

          Suppose DJT gets hit by a bus. Who are your top three acceptable replacements from the anticipated r primary field?

          Barry in reply to gonzotx. | November 18, 2022 at 11:19 pm

          It all depends. If DeSantis is handed the nomination by the corrupt GOPe locking out Trump, 50 million Trump voters will simply stay home. We are no longer going to vote for the GOPe hand picked candidate.

          If DeSantis wins a fair primary I’d take a chance and vote for him.

          So now why don’t you DeSantis fans tell us how he intends to campaign against Trump –

          Is he going to say he can create better economic conditions than Trump? No, it’s hard to beat the best economy in 70 years at least.

          Is he going to campaign on not starting any new wars? Well sorry but Trump already did that.

          Is he going to campaign on foreign policy? oops, Trump showed the world how to do that.

          I know, he can campaign on stopping illegals. Maybe building the wall. Oops, Trump stopped illegals better than anyone since Ike and the wall didn’t get built because the republicans in control of the house and senate wouldn’t appropriate 15 billion for the wall. But they sure don’t mind sending a hundred billion to place like the Ukraine.

          Perhaps he’s going to campaign on improved relations with the press. Oops, he already copied trump on that front, too late to fix.

          So exactly what is it you think he will campaign on? That he’s not Trump?

          Or are you going to claim he can win the general? Wrong, not if the Trump voters don’t turn out, and they will not if they think they have been cheated.

          Let’s be clear, cheezy little sayings like “So it’s not the country you care about…” are just that, cheezy. Some of us care about the country and recognize the best president we’ve had sine Reagan at least and probably Ike. And you only get one more chance at that. Just one. DeSantis can take over in 2028 with a country getting straightened out by Trump or correcting a further corrupted country.

          You see, I love this country as much as anyone and I refuse to play the same old game of electing whoever the R party puts up. That’s a losing proposition every single year. I see what the R party is doing and it is not to save America. Want evidence?

          Exactly what did the republican party do when it had control of the senate, the house, and the presidency?
          Their biggest accomplishment? Handcuffing Trump from acting on behalf of the American people. Consider the senate being officially in session the whole time, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, all to keep Trump from making any recess appointments. Ever see that before? No.

          What’s taking place in this country is shameful. President Trump didn’t cause the losses, the republican party did that. Their only accomplishment was to help steal elections and try to stop any candidate backed by Trump.

          Danny in reply to gonzotx. | November 18, 2022 at 11:59 pm

          Then it is prince not principles you care about.

          JohnSmith100 in reply to gonzotx. | November 19, 2022 at 2:25 pm

          Poor argument “Well, that’s very interesting indeed. So it’s not the country you care about,”

          I do not think that DeSantis is up to taking on the swamp, and that if the swamp is not drained, that America cannot prosper. Sideline Trump and then the swamp problem probably gets much worse. Leave DeSantis in Florida. He is well suited for his current position. Sending him to the white house will likely be making him an example of the Peter Principle.

          CommoChief in reply to gonzotx. | November 19, 2022 at 5:51 pm


          You state that ‘if the swamp isn’t drained’ and that you don’t think DeSantis is up to the challenge of taking on the swamp. Fair enough.

          That would mean that the swamp still exists. Which means DJT did not succeed in draining it. The facts tell us that DJT didn’t succeed. We don’t know if DeSantis would be more successful, we can only speculate about that future.

      Dr.Dave in reply to gonzotx. | November 18, 2022 at 10:03 pm

      I have and they have only made a cut or two. Just started!

    Danny in reply to Skip. | November 18, 2022 at 11:57 pm

    If they feared that they wouldn’t have done a move that will inevitably help him in the primary.

    They desperately want Trump to be the opponent; and they just helped the candidates he picked win primaries in order to crush them in the general election.

As predictable as the morning sun. So much for the theories of announce early and the DoJ can’t/won’t go after a candidate. The DC establishment hates DJT, they will use any method at their disposal to go after him. It will not end until they decide he’s been punished enough, which will be just after midnight on the day after never.

    Olinser in reply to CommoChief. | November 18, 2022 at 7:22 pm

    The ‘we can’t interfere with an election’ was always just complete bullshit from RINOs like Barr that used it as an excuse for doing absolutely nothing.

    Remember when fatass Barr said he had his ‘report’ ready and was just waiting until ‘after the election?’

    Funny how we never saw a word of it.

      Do you mean Trump-picked and -nominated William Barr? The same guy Trump claimed was a great guy and also great?

        Well, I wouldn’t get too excited about that. It is just smooze speak, like after their Singapore summit where he stated “a “strong guy” and a “great negotiator,” and argued his once-fiery rhetoric directed toward Kim worked.

        “He’s got a very good personality, he’s funny, and he’s very, very smart,” Trump said of Kim in the interview that aired Tuesday night. “He’s a great negotiator, and he’s a very strategic kind of a guy.” The president said he and Kim “got along very well” from “the beginning” of the summit.

        It is buttering the bread.

        Now tell us what he thought of Barr after the weasel stabbed him in the back.

        ““I made many great appointments during my Administration, and we accomplished more than most Administrations could even dream of, but Bill Barr was not one of my better picks,” Trump wrote. “He crumbled under the pressure, and bowed to the Radical Left—And that is not acceptable. Now he is groveling for the media, hoping to gain acceptance that he doesn’t deserve.”

        It is the art of the deal: praise them when you get along, savage them when you don’t.

          Dimsdale in reply to Dimsdale. | November 18, 2022 at 9:28 pm

          That was the Kim Jong Un summit, btw.

          It’s so weird watching normal people twist themselves in knots defending Trump. I don’t follow your point here at all, Dimsdale, but I think that might be part of the point at this point.

          Don’t focus on specifics, just pretend it’s still 2016, that Hillary is the most-hated pol of all time (she was in 2016, guess who holds that title now), and that gobbeldy gook somehow substitutes for real arguments. Rinse, repeat.

          Dr.Dave in reply to Dimsdale. | November 18, 2022 at 10:05 pm

          You are persistent

          Ironclaw in reply to Dimsdale. | November 18, 2022 at 11:26 pm


          We get it, you don’t like Trump. On the other hand, we have a real shortage of people who will actually fight the communists rather than bending over for them the first time they utter “racist.” So if I want the guy I know will fight, sue me. I’m done with most spineless republipukes who have no balls whatsoever. Give me the fighter over any of them.

        Fuzzy, NO ONE could have know the depth of the deep state would reach into PDJT’s administration. No one. What Trump did do, is expose it all.

        JohnSmith100 in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | November 19, 2022 at 5:25 pm

        So Trump was snowed by some smooth talking political scum. That is their stock and trade. I was recently conned by someone like that in a business deal. He ripped me off for tens of thousands of dollars. Within a year and he will be bankrupt.

        It is very difficult to tell who is legit and who is not. Allowing people like that to continue to operate is a mistake.

        I think that Trump has learned a great deal and will be more effective now. Not only did he become far more knowledgeable, and his flushing them out has shown all of us that it is a huge problem.

          CommoChief in reply to JohnSmith100. | November 19, 2022 at 5:57 pm

          Like Kevin McCarthy? Who DJT just endorsed for his leadership bid? Instead of Banks?

          DJT is attempting to cozy up to the establishment by this endorsement. That may turn out to be smart politics, but in doing so DJT rejected a Freedom Caucus member.

          I don’t think that reflects the actions of someone who has learned not to trust the establishment not to double cross and stab him in the back. Fool me once v fool me twice.

        You forget, McConnell and crew had to agree with appointing Barr. I guarantee Trump was given a list of “whom” was acceptable and would be approved by the senate. Remember from 2017 to 2019, congress never went into recess. (Ryan and McConnell)

Now is not the time to abandon DJT because media sources (including Legal Insurrection) say we should.
If anything, we should support him even stronger.
I was one that laughed at him in 2016, thinking he could never get traction….count me in with the millions that were pleasantly surprised with his success.
Hell yes I would vote for him again.
Shadow ban me all you want, you know we are right.

    gonzotx in reply to scooterjay. | November 18, 2022 at 4:07 pm

    Yes, you are!

    Trump 2024…

    Give it a rest, scooterjay. You’ve been banging this drum for months and months. Professor Jacobson has responded to your false claims elsewhere (pasted below in case you missed it).

    William A. Jacobson in reply to scooterjay. | November 10, 2022 at 12:43 pm

    No one was busted. And there is no shadow banning. When comments go to our moderation filter, there is a period of time before they are reviewed. During that time, a commenter logged in sees the comment because they are logged in as themself, but it is not yet live on the website. Once the comment is put through, and not trashed for things like threats of violence, it appears on the website.

    To clarify even further: your comments advocating violence against both other Americans and the government have earned you a place in automatic comment moderation. This means that, unlike virtually everyone else on this site, your comments are not put through until a human being looks at them. This can take time since we don’t have a person who focuses only on comment moderation. This is not shadow banning; it is protecting this site from legal and other challenges based on our comment section. You don’t have to like it, and frankly, after MONTHS of this, I really don’t care if you like it or not. It’s not going to change.

      scooterjay in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | November 18, 2022 at 4:56 pm

      Sure thing, Ma’am. All I can go on is my experience. I comment, and I see it if logged in. When I am not logged in my comments are not visible. It happens if I am browsing on my phone, tablet or laptop. That is the definition of shadow-banning.
      I’m so sorry that you think I am ready to resort to violence and, as you say “ready to shoot people”.
      I pine over the loss of liberty, and am now 100% behind Trump, much to your obvious chagrin. TTFN.

        No, shadowbanning is when NOTHING you post gets through. We do not shadowban (though we have outright banned people), but we must keep our comment section above reproach for legal reasons. I’m taking this response as your understanding of that fact. And it makes me happy.

        For the record, I pine over the loss of liberty, too. I wish that things weren’t as they are, but we have to live in this brave new world, and try to survive. It would help a lot if you understood and got on board. 🙂

        As to supporting Trump or not, that has zero to do with this months’ long campaign of yours, right? Support Trump all you want, nothing wrong with that (just don’t suggest that we need to “#2A” anyone who disagrees, that’s not just wrong but places us in jeopardy. You get that now right?).

        If you were shadowbanned you wouldn’t be here telling us you were shadowbanned. By definition.

          SeiteiSouther in reply to 4rdm2. | November 18, 2022 at 5:51 pm

          Yes, shadowbanning doesn’t work the way he thinks it does.

          Close The Fed in reply to 4rdm2. | November 18, 2022 at 6:50 pm


          Dr.Dave in reply to 4rdm2. | November 18, 2022 at 10:10 pm

          Shadow banning, also called stealth banning, hellbanning, ghost banning or comment ghosting, is the practice of blocking or partially blocking a user or the user’s content from some areas of an online community in such a way that the ban is not readily apparent to the user.

          Yup. So what’s the term for “you violated our comment policy on more than one occasion and are only still here because you’ve been here a long time and we don’t think you’re a troll and hope you don’t have ill intent. But you have to stop advocating violence as the solution to problems. Oh, and btw, that new BFF you just met is probably FBI because you are big-time on their radar as a potential patsy.”?

      As someone that was born in KY, had a Grand Father that was a Kentucky Colonel and a Shriner, and who’s both grand parents were deep into Kentucky politics. And as that same person, that was also groomed by said grand parents, to get involved in Ky politics. I can tell you McConnell is NOT who people think he is. I have had dinner with him many times throughout his career at my grand mothers table. He is the reason I said no to politics and went into engineering instead of law. I would rather slit my wrists than be said to be like McConnell. The man is just the other side of the coin from Pelosi and her ilk,,, but its the same coin…. He is an evil snake, always has been and all he cares about is big business and how he and his cronies can profit from it.

        Oh, I am not a fan of McConnell, by a long shot. But keeping the filibuster is vital to slowing down the radical leftist grip on America; I’m not sure it can be turned around at this point, but I do know that we are done when the filibuster goes.

        Just look at the Biden agenda, everything that was stopped because they couldn’t get the Senate votes to overcome the filibuster. Do you really hate McConnell so much that you can’t see that his bucking Trump on this was pivotal? Not me. Not a fan, but we must protect the filibuster . . . no matter who is in the WH. Period. And if McConnell is doing that, I’m on board with THAT (if nothing else).

          I agree with you on the filibuster, but I do not credit McConnell for that alone. If Ryan and McConnell had basically not handed congress over to the democrats on a silver platter we would not be where we are now. Remember McConnell refused to bring anything up to the senate unless it was a judge or benefited the GOPe. both Ryan and Mcconnell prevented trump from seating cabinet members and administrative personnel and also refused for 2 years to go into recess so he could not use recess appointments.

          Look at it yourself, you are a fantastic researcher, if you put 2 and 2 together you will see that we are here because of the machinations of about 12 people in congress. Less then 1/2 of them are democrats.

          Um, you do know that Ryan hasn’t been in the House since like 2019, right? I would love to spend all my time tilting at inconsequential, out-of-power windmills, too. SO much easier than dealing with reality as it exists over years after Ryan left Congress.

          And thanks for the nod to my researching skills. I very much appreciate it, but that doesn’t actually change a thing, you know that, right? I’m not Trump, you can praise me all day long, and I will still say what I think. I’m weird that way, always have been.

          There is a disconnect here if you hold to the position you would not have voted for Oz. Does not the same reasoning apply?

          To what? Did you finish this point?

          I don’t live in PA, and no I would never ever vote for a clear loser like Oz in the primaries. Literally, never. But once he won the primary, I would support him as better than the leftist loon.

          I’m not your problem, willow. Not by a long shot.

          JohnSmith100 in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | November 19, 2022 at 5:37 pm

          “I’m not sure it can be turned around at this point,”

          I agree, still I am sure that Trump is the best choice for turning it around. DeSantis sure as hell will not do so.

        healthguyfsu in reply to starride. | November 18, 2022 at 6:42 pm

        What gave you the impression that anyone in here, whether Trump lover or not, is a supporter of McConnell.

        Unlike gender, McConnell/Trump is not a binary dichotomy.

        OwenKellogg-Engineer in reply to starride. | November 18, 2022 at 7:15 pm

        Engineering – good choice!

        starride in reply to starride. | November 19, 2022 at 10:40 pm

        Fuzzy, you missed the point. Ryan was speaker of the house and McConnell was majority leader during Trumps first 2 years of presidency 2017-2019 Ryan literally gave the house to democrats on a silver platter. Both were instrumental in the political events form 2017 through 2024, Ryan’s effect is a little more obtuse since 2019, but you can see it in Fox news reporting since not long after.

      JohnSmith100 in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | November 19, 2022 at 9:01 pm

      There is a simple fix, notify a poster that the comment is pending approval. I also thought there was shadow banning. I run 4 computers at a time, that splits up the load. One is completely isolated from internet for security reasons.

      I understand LI’s concern about posts and have adjusted my comments to reflect that.

      My sympathies lie with Trump and Musk, because my life experience and temperament is similar to theirs. The difference is that a spent the bulk of my career spending money I made early to try and help people who were being defrauded. My observation was that people concentrated on becoming wealthy, than later in life focused on contributing money to better society. One example is CS Mott, who I became friends with in my early 20’s , he was in is 90’s. There was an endless stream of con artists trying to get his money.

      I had a conversation with him that led to my deciding to make enough money that could do the things I wanted to, so I spent the rest of my trying to do good deeds, including doing in those who did bad deeds. I see Trump as an honest broker, I very much dislike the shit people have pulled on him. He reminds me of CS Mott, self made and a fighter. Musk has similar traits. I am really enjoying his rework of Twitter.

    healthguyfsu in reply to scooterjay. | November 18, 2022 at 6:38 pm

    Yesterday was the time to let it go on Trump.

    To be more accurate, the results of this election cycle were absolutely a referendum on the expiration of Trump.

      I agree. The thing that Trump was going to do (apart from make us tired of winning) was to remake the GOP in his image. American voters rejected that en masse. Trump barely won over the (then) most-hated politician in America in 2016, and all he’s done since then is lose. I am sick of losing. SICK. OF. IT.

      When we lost 41 House seats in 2018, we all chalked that up to the “norm.” But if Trump is the light-bringer savior so many think he is, why did he lose the House? Or why wasn’t the margin smaller?

      Freaking Joe Biden just “won” this midterm cycle . . .despite record inflation, shortages, and ongoing supply chain problems. WHY? HOW?

      One word: Trump. He let the Democrats set up their irregular voting schemes in 2020 when he failed America by not sticking to his “open by Easter” pledge. Every single governor who opened by or before Easter won in landslides. Trump got it wrong. And he paved the way for all the sketchy voting schemes by Dems. Trump did that. No one else.

      This cycle was just the icing on the cake. Trump’s picks lost. Most lost hugely, some came down to the wire, but a loss is a loss. He does not deliver. Period. And he has to go.

      Anyone who pushes for a Democrat to win in Colorado, over a solid (for Colorado) GOP candidate, does not get the dangers we face. That was a Senate seat, not dog catcher. It mattered. Trump is hooked on his own butt hurt and feelz and doesn’t give a crap how that affects America. That’s proven fact.

        No, there was massive cheating, ballot harvesting and this was a referendum on the GOPe not Trump

          Gonzo, what cheating do you imagine took place? If you are upset about mail-in ballots and ballot harvesting and all the other “pandemic measures,” you have only one person to blame (or thank): Trump. He screwed up when he didn’t open the country by Easter. That’s on him. Only him.

          GOP governors in Georgia, Alabama, Florida, etc. took a LOT of flak from Team Trump and the media, et al. for bucking Trump’s establishment orders from the genocidal Fauci gnome, but they did what was right for their states.

          Trump? He wanted us all locked down well beyond the “flatten the curve” timeline. Horrific malpractice. And all that did was fuel the covid voting measures that arguably cost Trump the election. I think they did cost him the election, but those measures, the Zuckerbucks, etc. could NOT have happened if Trump just followed the science and told Fauci to go take a long walk off a short pier. It’s not outrageous, numerous governors told Fauci to go . . . fauci himself.

          Remember when Trump wanted some rally to be held in Florida but said no because our governor refused to comply with his crazy WuFlu masking and ‘social distancing’ demands? And when he then ran into the same problem in Georgia? And ended up with a blah Zoom event?

          Trump got covid wrong. All down the line. And yes, all the ballot harvesting and drop boxes and vote-by-mail measures that favor and enable Democrat cheating are ON TRUMP. No one else. Trump.

          CommoChief in reply to gonzotx. | November 18, 2022 at 7:28 pm

          Ballot harvesting is legal in many States. Where our candidates didn’t use that to their advantage but instead relied upon a traditional vote in person on election day strategy they made an error.

          Not just in terms of not using the same lawful process to gather ballots but in AZ made themselves vulnerable to Maripoca elections officials throwing wrenches.

          That was a foolish strategy, IMO. They already suspected that Maripoca would be problem and that the officials were likely up to something. Given that why in hell did they put their campaign into the trap they suspected to exist?

          healthguyfsu in reply to gonzotx. | November 18, 2022 at 8:06 pm

          As Commo said, it is legal in some places. However, I don’t think Republican voters are geared for it. I personally wouldn’t trust someone who showed up to collect my ballot. I’m putting it in myself at an election HQ.

          willow in reply to gonzotx. | November 18, 2022 at 9:12 pm

          By what authority could Trump open the country? New York er al, you must open!

          CommoChief in reply to gonzotx. | November 18, 2022 at 10:58 pm


          You ask ‘what could DJT have done to open the Country’? Here are a few things:

          1. Fire or sideline Fauchi and Birx.
          2. Place the National Covid response from the Federal govt into the hands of DR Atlas.
          3. Institute the recommendations of the Great Barrington Declaration; focused protection.
          4. Direct the DoJ to directly intervene to protect the Civil rights of Citizens in Federal Court. Sue to block the State and local govts who went totalitarian.
          5. Refuse to be pressured from within or without the Administration to adopt, assist in or fund the insanity of lock downs and arresting folks alone and outdoors without a mask.
          6. Immediately rebutted the lies re mask effectiveness. Fire the Surgeon General who lied after changing his story then admitted that it was a ‘noble lie’. Anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of how PPE works, common sense and human nature knew from jump the didn’t work.

          Let’s start with those actions then we can add others if needed.


          Barry in reply to gonzotx. | November 18, 2022 at 11:36 pm

          Nope. It was the states that shut down. Trump was on record as suggesting they open up by Easter as I recall. True he had reservations about some opening too early because he was sold by the medical community that temporary shutdowns were the way to go.

          It was governors and local officials that shut down and tried to force people into useless masks and to get shots that at best do nothing and at worst cause severe health problems.

          DeSantis shut Florida down, not Trump. Governors in other states didn’t shut down. DeSantis to his credit opened back up early.

          Stop blaming Trump for something he didn’t do.

          willow in reply to gonzotx. | November 20, 2022 at 11:28 am

          I asked by what authority Trump could make states open. That was one if the early attacks on him, that he thought he could make them open.

    He won 46% of the population to Hillary Clinton winning 48% and won not just because Hillary was hated but because Hillary did not think Wisconsin, Pennsylvania or Michigan could possibly be in play (those were called “The Blue Wall” at the time). Even with Hillary not investing her time and resources in those three states he barely won any of them (for context of how close each of those states were Mitt Romney won more votes in Wisconsin in 2012 than Trump in 2016 despite Romney losing Wisconsin in a landslide to Obama).

    Since then he lost 2018, 2020, actively helped Democrats win the senate in 2021, and cost us the 2022 midterms.

    Even in red states people don’t like him (52% of Texans don’t for example).

    Everyone knows him, everyone knows about him, and everyone has made up their mind. If election features someone who 60% hate that someone loses.

    I would rather win battles with someone else than lose due to loyalty to a prince. I am glad Hillary was incompetent, I like my Democrat presidential candidates incompetent.

    We will not be seeing incompetence on her level again from the Democrats; ever.

      Barry in reply to Danny. | November 18, 2022 at 11:46 pm

      Oh look ChinaDanny thinks there is a national election. Get a clue marxist, there is no national election, no one campaigns for such, the national vote count is meaningless and in many states the vote count isn’t even completed because it will not change the outcome.

      TRUMP beat the witch. He did it because people were sick of the same old con game played by both parties. They took a chance and got the best president since Ike. They got the first president since Reagan that cared about the American people.

      But for Trump, you would have gotten hillary.

      But if you wish to use national results as a Trump referendum, what are the totals for the 2022 midterms? The marxist ChinaDanny doesn’t want to discuss that.

Garland has every piece of paper from Mar a Lago, and two tears of investigating 1/6, if he has nothing, there is nothing. this is more of “the process is the punishment” harassment

The communists nominated this scumbag for the Supreme Court. He is to justice as the McMichaels were to community service.

    Dimsdale in reply to NotKennedy. | November 18, 2022 at 9:45 pm

    Thank God he isn’t on the SCOTUS.

      That idiot Kenji whats-her-name took his place. She’s even dumber.

      Stepping back, it’s apparent that the left’s big strategy is to put useful morons with low integrity in high office. AOC was the first obvious manifestation. Biden the second. Fetterman? He’s over the top, and they’re laughing all the way to the bank with FTX’s billions in their pockets.

Two impeachments, one after his term expired (is that even constitutional?) Now the 3rd or 4th special counsel, I’ve frankly lost count. This time after he left office and after he declares a candidate. Strikes me as unprecedented at the least. Actually, strikes me more as a grossly corrupt abuse of power. I would sorely love to see Trump win and fire most of the DOJ staff.

    Trump had four years to fire everyone and make good appointments, especially in DOJ – Sessions, Rosenstein, Barr – and FBI – Wray. He did not and it is easily arguable that is why he is not President today. IMO it is specious to talk about re-electing Trump because he will “drain the Swamp”.

      Concise in reply to jb4. | November 18, 2022 at 5:34 pm

      He did what he could in circumstances where I predict virtually any other modern president (excluding Reagan) would have resigned. Now he has the experience and knowledge to do more. At least he is better positioned than any other candidate. And motivated. Support a status quo candidate if you like. I support President Trump.

        gonzotx in reply to Concise. | November 18, 2022 at 5:47 pm


        CommoChief in reply to Concise. | November 18, 2022 at 6:56 pm

        Not really. He allowed Ryan and McConnell to present him a budget without funding for a border wall; the signature issue of his campaign. Instead of exercising a veto he got rolled.

        A veto at that moment would have put the establishment into the position of supporting DJT or requiring them to work with d/prog to override his veto. IOW it was a missed opportunity to break the power of the DC establishment. DJT flinched.

        Then he allowed the Fauchi Fascists to run wild for far too long. He spoke in favor of lockdown. He spoke critically of jurisdictions who didn’t lockdown or otherwise stood their ground against the Branch Covidians.

          “without funding for a border wall”

          Sure, but the fault with that lies where? With the GOPe of course. Trump was trying his best to unify the country in spite of the fact he knew what kind of snakes he was dealing with.

          Had they put the money in, he would have signed the bill and built the wall. The same people don’t mind sending a hundred billion to Ukraine.

          CommoChief in reply to CommoChief. | November 19, 2022 at 10:16 am

          IMO, it is the fault of the guy who didn’t uses his veto power to crush Ryan. We can dance around and offer reasons or context or excuses. I even agree with some of those.

          The clear fact is Ryan and the establishment forced DJT to back down over his build a wall pledge. He didn’t impose a veto and thus QED did not do everything in his power to get a wall built.

        Abolutely right. NONE of us realized how completely corrupted our government was.

      henrybowman in reply to jb4. | November 18, 2022 at 5:39 pm

      I don’t disagree with this at all. The question nobody has answered is, “Has Trump learned anything significant since, about how to determine who is a true colleague and who is a backstabber?” There’s no way to know the answer, but I haven’t seen any one piece of evidence to indicate to me that he has.

        gonzotx in reply to henrybowman. | November 18, 2022 at 5:48 pm

        And what exact , evidence wise, would you need?

        It’s not hard to argue that his actions (and endorsements, including of McCarthy for House Speaker) suggest that he’s not learned a damned thing. To get in Trump’s favor, and therefore his inner circle, all you have to do is flatter him. Everyone knows this; it’s always been that way, and there is zero evidence to suggest he’s even noticed this is a flaw much less is trying to fix it.

        The only reason Trump wants McConnell out, for example, is that McConnell won’t nuke the filibuster. The same filibuster that just protected America from all manner of leftist evil under Biden (or whomever is pulling his strings). The filibuster goes, we all go down. I’m not a McConnell fan, but he is right on this, and that is literally the only reason Trump wants him out: he dared defy Trump’s demand to eliminate the filibuster. Calling to eliminate that safeguard is an egregious offense against the Constitution when Biden does it, right? Well, it was egregious when Trump did it, too.

          You’re kidding , right?
          Has nothing to do with his refusal to let President Trump have recess appointments , the contestant backstabbing and sabotaging of President Trumps agenda, of American First candidates each and every year ?
          The threats to President Trump when he tried to move against Sessions, Mueller, the little weasel Rosenstein to let him be impeached.
          The list is endless
          Oh Lordy please.

          MTG endorsed McCarthy. Is she a RINO?

          I don’t care about what you people call “RINOs” because I know that there are many districts and many centrist voters who reject Trump. They will never ever vote for him or for anyone associated with him. Ever. Nothing he can say will change that at this point. It’s baked in. We know this because he has lost the last three election cycles. It’s not bizarro, conspiracy theory maths, it’s just fact.

          Look at it this way: is there anything Hillary Clinton can say–ever–that would make you vote for her? People HATE Trump, literally hate him. This is not fair, it is not warranted, but it is fact. We either deal with the facts or ignore them and lose. AGAIN. Tired of “winning” yet? I sure am.

          McCarthy had the votes. What possible good would it do to aggravate him as he assumes the Speaker position.

          You still have to get things done, and having the Speaker against you would be like Pelosi still being in power.

          Ah, so now Trump is a political, establishment machine, just endorsing RINOs . . . to, um, what was that again? Not sure I follow this pretzel logic. Try again, maybe?

          It’s not Trump in particular, republicans in general have not fared as well as they could in elections since the advent of virtually universal mail in ballots, unmonitored drop boxes, and ballot harvesting and I believe that no republican nominee will succeed in 2024 unless republicans adopt the same tactics as democrats. So, in other words, if the ballot harvesting is equalized, I don’t believe Trump is as weak a candidate as you claim. He did pretty well in 2016 and on an equal playing field, his populist message is probably actually the best chance to win.

          CommoChief in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | November 18, 2022 at 11:13 pm


          So now the fighter, who likes to fight, who is needed because he will fight……is to be praised for …choosing not to fight?

          So scratch the fighter rhetoric off the list of reasons to support DJT. This isn’t the first time DJT decided not to fight the r leadership in the House. He let Paul Ryan punk him on his first budget.

          Did DJT veto that budget even when it lacked funding for the border wall? Did DJT choose that moment to keep his promise to us? Nope he let Ryan and McConnell walk all over him and his signature campaign issue in a very public manner.

          You may recall the Border Wall has not been completed. Some five million + illegal immigrants have entered the US and Lord knows who and what else as a direct result of that failure by DJT to impose a veto and make Ryan and McConnell override it or get the damn funding for it.

          “They will never ever vote for him”

          Exactly, word for word what you said in 2016.

          henrybowman in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | November 20, 2022 at 6:21 pm

          “I don’t care about what you people call “RINOs” because I know that there are many districts and many centrist voters who reject Trump.”

          I think you have cause an effect mixed up.
          Not all people who reject Trump are RINOs.
          But all RINOs reject Trump.

Fat_Freddys_Cat | November 18, 2022 at 3:57 pm

How many years has Captain Ahab been hunting him now? I’m losing track.

The DOJ and FBI have permanently damaged their reputation. At this point our government acts like the old Politiboro with KGB. They continue to lock up the political dissidents.

Great. Now do Hunter Biden.

The very first house impeachment should be Merrick Garland.

    Pointless without the Senate.

      Juris Doctor in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | November 18, 2022 at 6:08 pm

      Not true. Skilled impeachment managers can do plenty of career ending damage in a house trial.

        If you say so. Pretty sure they can’t actually end the career of anyone who can’t be removed, though.

        Biden doesn’t remove anyone for any screw up. Who left over the Afghanistan withdrawal that left 13 American military members dead? Oh, right, no one.

        The Democrats protect their own, then elevate their “heroes” who were “unjustly attacked” by Republicans to ever higher positions for withstanding things that would have decimated careers . . . thirty years ago. We aren’t living in the last century, everything has changed a great deal.

        CommoChief in reply to Juris Doctor. | November 18, 2022 at 6:46 pm

        A much easier case exists to impeach Mayorkas at DHS. He has repeatedly stated, including this week, that border is ‘secure’.

        No serious person would make that claim. 2.5 million acknowledged crosses along with an estimated 1/2 million+ know got away. This total include a hundred folks on the terror watch lists and many thousands who have criminal records.

        The unprecedented numbers overwhelm the ability to secure the border from truly bad actors. The CPB is stuck doing administrative work and baby sitting these folks. Which means less presence and deterrent effect of CPB along the border.

        Major cities not along the border are now themselves claiming to be overwhelmed after a few thousand illegals were transferred to their jurisdiction.

        That’s the most glaring and probable failure of the administration. That’s the place to start.

          gonzotx in reply to CommoChief. | November 18, 2022 at 7:04 pm

          5,000,000 million illegal aliens and that’s a conservative estimate

          5,000 000….

          CommoChief in reply to CommoChief. | November 18, 2022 at 7:11 pm


          The numbers I quoted were for FY22 the most recent full year data set. They don’t include FY21 nor the numbers so far in FY23.

          Personally I don’t think we need anything beyond the FY22 numbers which by themselves demonstrate an unprecedented and intentional failure by DHS, Mayorkas and Biden.

      That’s not what Pelosi would say. We need to return the favors.

There is a bright side to this. The creepy fascist could have been a lifetime appointed supreme court justice.

Beginning with the 2016 election night media-wide freakout – it has been six years of unremitting, weird, reactionary, authoritarian commu-fascism. Pelosi and that strango, bulgey-eye’d Schiff. Wow. There is something very wrong with that man.

    henrybowman in reply to Tiki. | November 18, 2022 at 4:33 pm

    “There is a bright side to this. The creepy fascist could have been a lifetime appointed supreme court justice.”

    This argument makes as much sense as “daddy died of plastic clots in his bloodstream but we’re grateful he was vaccinated for COVID or it could have been much worse.”

    At least Supreme Court justices are one of seven, and can play havoc only with stuff that manages to end up before them. The AG has buildings full of hellhounds he can release five times every day, against whatever target he chooses.

    gonzotx in reply to Tiki. | November 18, 2022 at 7:05 pm

    There is no bright side to this

The comments to this posting shows why it was a wise move to appoint a Special Counsel. I believe that this will not change the ultimate outcome, but will remove any claim that the DOJ investigations are driven by political motives.

    henrybowman in reply to lawgrad. | November 18, 2022 at 4:35 pm

    Only in the eyes of the presstitutes and other team players. It’s not the first time this card has been played, and the proceedings were anything but unbiased.

    Paddy M in reply to lawgrad. | November 18, 2022 at 5:00 pm

    Garland said the motives are political when he announced it. Also, have you been paying attention at all to the DoJ the last 6 years?

    gonzotx in reply to lawgrad. | November 18, 2022 at 5:49 pm

    Really? You believe that?

      Yeah, it’s not clear how a clearly political attack on the former president and current challenger for Biden’s office is NOT political. Particularly when we all know how anyone who opposes Biden and the left is being targeted by the DOJ/FBI. This is down to Holocaust survivors who are pro-choice and anyone NEAR (not in) the Capitol on J6.

      And that on top of Biden’s blood-red speech declaring that anyone who opposes him is an enemy of the state, a threat to “democracy,” and a potential terrorist.

      I think that lawgrad has good intentions, but he’s stuck in another era.

    Close The Fed in reply to lawgrad. | November 18, 2022 at 6:57 pm

    Oh, geezeeeee… Who is paying the troll??!! STOP PAYING HIM!

    CommoChief in reply to lawgrad. | November 18, 2022 at 8:01 pm

    Bruh, The Special Counsel is himself a former political appointees of the Obama administration. The AG who tasked him, Merrick Garland is a political appointee of the Biden WH. Let’s not forget that Garland does have grounds for personal animus against DJT in that had Clinton won in 2016 and not DJT, he would likely be on the SCOTUS.

    Everything at this level is political. It’s inescapable and suggesting it is not is completely unserious.

    Barry in reply to lawgrad. | November 18, 2022 at 11:54 pm

    “…but will remove any claim that the DOJ investigations are driven by political motives.”

    Heh, thanks for the laugh of the month.

    “Lawgrad”. So is my dog.

    Ironclaw in reply to lawgrad. | November 18, 2022 at 11:59 pm

    This appointment was political.

    Desdenova in reply to lawgrad. | November 24, 2022 at 1:44 pm

    That ship sailed long ago. This appointment validates the claim there was a conflict of interest all along. This was done to keep the circus going now that the GOP controls the house and no other reason. SMDH

    Desdenova in reply to lawgrad. | November 24, 2022 at 1:47 pm

    Man are you gullible.

Garland gives up even the pretense, thin though it was, of integrity.

Query–Is there even the slightest bit of real evidence available to the public that Trump was involved, much less could be held criminally responsible for, the so-called 1/6 “insurrection?”

    Dimsdale in reply to Wisewerds. | November 18, 2022 at 10:08 pm

    No, which is why they have to hide video and promise not to put Pelosi on the stand. Hell, if you have been paying attention, pantifa moles and even the FIB were infiltrating and causing the real problems that occurred at that time.

    CommoChief in reply to Wisewerds. | November 18, 2022 at 11:25 pm

    Not really. The most that can be said is some criticism about his alleged delay in sending tweets to his ‘followers’ or making other public calls for calm more quickly than he did.

    That and the mere presence of the whole ‘stop the steal’ rally itself. That alone was enough to scare the bejesus out of establishment DC across party lines. Can’t have the pesky peasants and the bourgeois showing up in person to the Nation’s Capital to make their voice heard in a peaceful political rally. Heavens no.

      It did not scare anyone, what it did was it gave Democrats the perfect pretense to do a lot of things they already wanted to.

      The riot happening also gave the perfect pretense to start a special counsel investigation of Trump whenever desired.

      Dems get to pick our candidate for us, they get to weaken him even further, they get to weaken the party as a whole again; and Donald Trump got to injure himself.

      The Dems loved the riot while Republicans could rightly be called furious at him for a major self inflicted wound inflicted by it.

        CommoChief in reply to Danny. | November 19, 2022 at 12:28 pm


        Establishment DC was flipping the hell out about the rally being held. Their media allies were all clutching pearls because Citizens were gathering in DC while the electoral count/certification process was going on.

        The rally uniformly condemned as ‘disturbing’ or potentially threatening the outcome of the process. That was before a few hundred loons took the bait and entered the Capital buildings.

        The rally was a separate thing from the loons. One was a constitutionally protected rally where Citizens gathered to speak, listen and peacefully engage in free speech. The other was was mildly criminal, misdemeanors for the most part and many of those seem very selective in contrast to prior acts by d/prog activists.

          Watch horned hat guy; I mean seriously. I could show plenty of other footage such as police inviting protestors into the capitol building and horrifying frightening things like protestors respecting the red velvet rope. There is also more footage the DOJ is keeping secret. It isn’t being kept secret because it is frightening imagery.

          None of those protestors should have been put into a situation where an FBI agitator could make their anger get the better of them. They had been protesting and been given fever pitch sermons about stolen elections for weeks and many of them had read fake news about things like PA receiving more ballots than it sent out. Some of them had been fed Lin Woods lies, others had been listening to Powers or fake news about heroic operations proving fraud in Germany.

          With an already angry crowd it may not be good judgement to work on getting them angrier. At absolute best it displayed horrible judgement to hold that rally at all.

          If it had been held in say Alexandria or Arlington that would have dramatically reduced chances of a riot breaking out (because the targets of their anger just weren’t there) but lets not fool ourselves. Trump weakened us a lot that day and it was out of Trump’s own ego.

          The meeting on Jan 6th decided nothing it was purely a formality. The rally had a 0% chance of success and a risk of bad things happening the rally. The bad things happened.

          It is constitutionally protected speech today to burn the American flag, it doesn’t make it a good idea. The special counsel being appointed over the protest turned riot was as predictable as it was preventable.

    henrybowman in reply to Wisewerds. | November 20, 2022 at 6:29 pm

    Depends on what you characterize as “real evidence.”
    Within the past few days, some yutz at his sentencing hearing for J6 dutifully recited that he performed all his actions because he had been called to do so by the president he loved and whose approval he wanted. Clearly to keep his ass out of the wringer, yet under oath.
    Truly Soviet.

    Interesting. But why didn’t other Republican governors make the same or similar moves? Oh, right, they did.

      No, they didn’t, Az, Ga

        CommoChief in reply to gonzotx. | November 18, 2022 at 7:46 pm

        Could you clarify what you allege about GA and AZ in relation to FL? Did GA and AZ also have the same sort of % and absolute shift in voter registration advantage from d/prog to r as FL did?

      No, nobody came even close to the extent which DeSantis cleaned up the mess in Florida and then make it painfully clear that it will not be tolerated and if you do it you will go to jail for a long time.

      Though, here in Missouri we had our own Red Tide, as did Iowa and a few other red states that have honest election systems. Not really news to most of the country because it fit right into the normal patterns for our States. We hate communists for the most part, so they are an endangered species outside of communist shithole cities.

Connivin Caniff | November 18, 2022 at 6:12 pm

“Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime.”

Wonder what all those new IRS agents will be doing for the next 2 years

In 2010, Obama Attorney General Eric Holder picked Jack Smith to run Public Integrity Section.

Smith took out VA Gov. Bob McDonnell as a potential Republican presidential candidate–on bogus corruption charges.

Supreme Court reversed, 9-0.

Now Smith is back–to take out Trump.


AG Garland has appointed a special prosecutor. Don’t listen to what he said look at what he wrote in the order.

“The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the ongoing investigation into whether any person or entity violated the law in connection with efforts to interfere with the lawful transfer of power following the 2020 presidential election or the certification of the Electoral College vote held on or about January 6, 2021, as well as any matters that arose or might arise directly from this investigation or that are within the scope of [Special Counsel Regulations 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a)]”

This section is for one reason and one reason only, it is a Muelleresk tactic to remove J6 documents and evidence from republicans’ hands. To essentially prevent them from investigating the J6 committee. J6 Committee staff, committee investigators, FBI agents and DOJ lawyers will now transfer from the committee to the special counsel office. However, all prior and current DOJ prosecutions against citizen individuals will remain within the control and direction of Main Justice.
The second reason is to lock up the Mar-a-Lago raid. And prevent republicans from getting into the deep side of FBI/DOJ corruption The Trump Mar-a-Lago document investigation (the proverbial nothingburger – just like Trump/Russia) transfers to the Special Counsel office, along with an intended angle to look for an obstruction of justice charge (just like Mueller). This is Robert Mueller 2.0 using Special Counsel Jack Smith.
The Trump-centric part of the special counsel appointment, the part that everyone is focusing on, is ancillary to the real purpose of the appointment. However, that said, all investigative resources from Main Justice and the FBI will transfer to Jack Smith as they did when Crossfire Hurricane transferred to Robert Mueller. The investigative people will transfer along with the investigative evidence. Does anyone see another 40 million dollar investigation into nothing???
The 3rd reason is to try and pick off a few republican congress members under the auspices of supporting an insurrection.
Special Counsel Jack Smith is the same prosecutor that went after VA Gov. Bob McDonnell that got overturned 9-0 by the supreme court. He also prosecuted John Edwards and that case that ended in acquittal on one charge and mistrial on 5 other counts. One black mark against President Trump for this new persecutor is that President Trump pardoned his one successful political prosecution (Renzi)…
The end story is republicans need to defund the DOJ, FBI and the special council. The house controls the purse strings, and they need to grow a set and stand up to this. McCarthy and McConnell are not the people for this job

The end result is just like the Mueller investigation. It was nothing more than an attempt to hamstring an administration and prevent the real truth from reaching sunlight. It was a 40-million-dollar obstruction of justice scheme

    gonzotx in reply to starride. | November 18, 2022 at 9:55 pm

    You are an absolutely right. Why does the left always seem to have the ability to do these things? Why is the right , almost to a man, a group of inept cowards, always found lacking?

      wendybar in reply to gonzotx. | November 19, 2022 at 7:04 am

      WHICH is why people still want TRUMP, who fights for US. The GOPe, doesn’t. They cave to the Progressives EVERY SINGLE TIME. They go along to get along, because they are afraid to be called RACISTS or whatever the Progressive grievance word of the day is….

      CommoChief in reply to gonzotx. | November 19, 2022 at 12:38 pm

      They stay unified. They understand that the goal is achieving political power then using it to impose their policy preferences.

      In contrast the right is composed of a broader coalition. Some members of the coalition are far more attached to a particular candidate and not the true goal of winning elections.

      Fighting is important. Winning the fights is far more important. There is no substitute for victory. Anything less than achieving victory is unacceptable. We can’t exercise political power unless we first attain that power by winning the elections.

      I love a scrappy underdog as much as anyone else, but only when they emerge victorious. I don’t care how scrappy they are if they lose.

        henrybowman in reply to CommoChief. | November 20, 2022 at 6:33 pm

        “We can’t exercise political power unless we first attain that power by winning the elections.”

        Then instead of exercising it, “we” sit on our asses and tell “our” voters, “later, it’s not yet the right time.”

    The Nazis of the Weimar era would be impressed.

      Nazi Strongholds did not refer to places that voted 60% Nazi it referred to actual strongholds with armed men.

      Our situation is not similar to Weimar Germany.

      It is something like a Republic sliding into becoming an oligarchy.

      It is not a Republic in a virtual civil war where the police have a tenuous hold over the nation.

      When you use the term Nazi you better make sure it is a valid comparison, because right now it frankly isn’t.

      Even with inflation the Weimar Republic actually changed course on the inflationary policy so even that isn’t an apt comparison (we seem to be full speed ahead)

        Ironclaw in reply to Danny. | November 19, 2022 at 12:07 am

        The democrats are way worse than nazis.

          When they set up some concentration camps get back to me on it in the meantime enough is enough.

          When you speak in public and you are on a losing side struggling to connect with independents and moderates of the opposing side you better make sure it is justified when you use the word Nazi.

          Frankly Mussolini’s Italy isn’t comparable to Nazi Germany let alone the modern United States.

          henrybowman in reply to Ironclaw. | November 20, 2022 at 6:34 pm

          “When they set up some concentration camps get back to me on it”
          J6 prisoners.

There is a disconnect here if you hold to the position you would not have voted for Oz. Does not the same reasoning apply?

“(sarc/) Breaking News Update” about Kevin McCarthy’s official push back against the latest Special Counsel:

“McCarthy’s office could not immediately be reached,” and his Twitter feed does not mention a word of it.

    McCarthy, the guy Trump literally JUST ENDORSED for Speaker? You need to get up on the latest pro-Trump talking points. You need to be defending and supporting Trump’s hand-picked Speaker. What is wrong with you?

    Also, stop “tweeting” here. I’ve told you this before, and I’m not going to keep saying it for the next two years.

      There are none so blind as those who refuse to see

      I see that applying to you fuzzy

      I have no idea why President Trump supported McCarthy, I don’t.

      I’ll wait right here while you list the people in this world you agree with 100%

        There is no one in this world I agree with 100%, and there is no one in this world I will not defend against all lies and nefarious intent. But we’re not really talking about all the people in the world, are we? We’re talking about Trump. And he is toxic to a huge percentage of the American people, it’s not fair, but it is true.

        If I knew someone I loved was about to get trounced, would my “loyalty” require me to glide along, mumbling platitudes, and watch them fail, watch them suffer that failure (one they will perceive as a humiliation) to their core? Or would it require me to be honest about my assessment? Your mileage may vary, but I opt for early, swift hard truths over long, drawn-out failure and embarrassment.

    Danny in reply to gonzotx. | November 18, 2022 at 11:48 pm

    He has some form of authority over this?

In an October 2010 meeting that was arranged at the direction of Jack Smith, chief of the Justice Department’s Public Integrity Section, the DOJ asked IRS official Lois Lerner to help the Department build criminal cases against conservative nonprofit groups that were conducting political activity. This was part of the massive IRS political targeting scandal that began to make headlines in May 2013

Yet another self inflicted wound by Trump that will be devastating to our side for at least two years.

The election of 2020 was 1000% over by Jan 6th. Nobody thought Mike Pence had any authority to stop the electoral votes, nobody thought there was any validity to the fake electors Trump set up, Mike Pence made it very clear he would not violate the constitution by creating a role for himself in deciding what electoral votes get counted.

Trump was aware there would be FBI agitators, he was aware everything he and his supporters stated was going to get a massive crowd very angry. He was aware of the risks why the hell do it?

0% chance of any success, chance that it would give the Democrats a field day and get unfortunate men and women angry enough to do something stupid then get railroaded by the justice system.

Early on when I went from just reading to commenting here I was down voted to oblivion for saying this but Jan 6th was an outright betrayal by Trump done to satisfy his ego. I wish we only had people who could 100% resist their anger on our side but we don’t. That the Democrats would use the riot as an excuse for a special counsel was obvious.

This special counsel will in no way be restricted to investigating if Trump’s speech as incitement to violence (it wasn’t) it will be a second Mueller investigation and I am sick of Trump running us into landmines.

Why the hell did he have to speak to Don Lemon so often? It was his statement to Don Lemon about Comey that triggered the first special counsel by Rod Rosenstein.

Was Rod Rosenstein right to buckle under pressure and appoint a special counsel?

1000% no

Could it have been prevented by Trump having some form of discipline and not trying to court Don Lemon?

1000% yes

    Barry in reply to Danny. | November 19, 2022 at 12:07 am

    ChinaDanny once again distorting everything to further the marxist cabal.

    “I was down voted to oblivion”

    Not enough. Everything you say here is to help the chinese owned GOPe.

    Remember when you stated it was a certainty the chinese would invade Taiwan/start WW3 if pelosi visited Taiwan?

    I’m still waiting. I think perhaps you’re just paid to spread propaganda.

    Paddy M in reply to Danny. | November 19, 2022 at 8:27 am

    It’s Trump’s fault that the corrupt DoJ is investigating him again may be your dumbest take yet, Danny. Blaming Trump for Fauci’s gain of function research is probably dumber.

      Danny in reply to Paddy M. | November 19, 2022 at 10:22 am

      1. If you can’t blame a president for failing to oversee the executive branch who the hell could you blame? The buck stops with the president of the United States. It is the presidents job to be proactive in those agencies. It is the presidents job to know everything those agencies do and deliver swift judgements when it is not doing as he wills. That Trump had no idea what multiple executive agencies did yes is a weak point in his presidency.

      You could acknowledge what Trump did well as president but you have to also acknowledge what he did badly

      2. Yes it is Trump’s fault. He showed horrible judgement and his horrible judgement resulted in a riot. A deaf and blind mute would have known that a criminal investigation of him would be the result.

      3. The election was over; Mike Pence had a role of pure formality on Jan 6th nothing more. He was aware there was going to be FBI provocateurs and yes he did betray his followers by taking them into a situation where their emotions could get them into jail for years and it is a stunning indictment of his narcissism.

      4. A best case scenario of protesting the peaceful transfer of power to the winner of an election is that it doesn’t hurt your side very much

      5. I would like you to tell me that if we win 2024 that the Democrats have a right to prevent the transfer of power with neither proof of voter fraud nor even a willingness to make that claim in a courtroom.

      No matter how you slice it Trump inflicted another wound on himself and our side with that protest; the only question when he decided to protest peaceful transfer of power was the size of that wound and because it resulted in a riot the size of the wound is massive.

      He is a man not a god.

        Paddy M in reply to Danny. | November 19, 2022 at 9:10 pm

        No one said he’s a god, Danny. And that’s a whole text wall of bullshit to cover for a corrupt DoJ, because OMB. But you’re soooooper conservative, right? 😆

        Paddy M in reply to Danny. | November 19, 2022 at 9:26 pm

        Does the buck stop with your boy, Mitch, Danny? He was drastically outspent in competitive Senate races. That’s a rhetorical question. However, your answer would be “but, but, but Trump!1!1!!!!1!”

          Danny in reply to Paddy M. | November 19, 2022 at 11:25 pm

          You do realize Trump contributed nothing to the cycle at all despite his massive war chest right? You do realize Mitch McConnell actually spent massively on the competitive races yes?

          You are free to reject reality but it has a way of reasserting itself.

          Unlike Trump Mitch McConnell actually funded the Trump candidates.

          The only thing that makes Mastriano not a Trump candidate is your cultlike worship of Trump

          henrybowman in reply to Paddy M. | November 20, 2022 at 6:45 pm

          Significant difference between close to $24M and $0.
          Click on “Independent expenditures” to see how he funded his handpicked candidates.

        Desdenova in reply to Danny. | November 24, 2022 at 1:57 pm

        If he fires Fauci he gets blamed for the deaths since Trump is not a Doctor. That wouldn’t have hurt the GOP?

        No, its not his fault 1/6 occurred its the person who refused NG troops.

Oh good, another special prosecutor. This one, a once chief to the DOJ’s public integrity section. – how’d that work out for us? – now returning fresh from a stint at the International Criminal Court. Another one-worlder, there’s a resume that’ll warm the heart of honest Americans everywhere.

Because a Democrat-appointed special counsel is independent (nudge nudge wink wink).

Based on comments here, I can see that the Democrats will again be in the White House In 2025. I say that because there are both “I won’t vote for DeSantis or Youngkin or whoever, because I LOVE Trump” and “I won’t vote for Trump because I HATE Trump”. So I guess the Republican Party just needs to shutter its doors and give the money to Biden (or at least the Big Guy’s 10%) and the Democrat Party. What you are saying you will do will have the same effect. If the Republicans split as they did in 1992 because somebody (Trump) runs as a third party, we will get what we deserve as Conservatives — a permanent Democrat ruled country; to be clear I am guilty of voting for Ross Perot and regret it in some ways.

As to the subject of the article that this is a comment to, Merrick Garland has committed to a continued Witch Hunt since the January 6th Committee will be changed or shut down with the new Congress. Trump so far has not been found to have committed any wrong doing but Garland’s Special Counsel will eventually find some little issue that should be held as a capital crime since Trump did it.

    CommoChief in reply to BillB52. | November 19, 2022 at 6:13 pm


    I haven’t seen that dynamic instead I see that basically there are three camps for the r primary contest.
    1. Only Trump
    2. Prefer another candidate
    3. Maybe Trump

    The Only Trump wing has some who have stated they will not vote for another candidate than DJT in the general election. They also have folks who are not members of the republican party and don’t have a vote in the r primary.

    The other two groups have almost uniformly pulled the lever for twice for Trump and would do so again in the general election. It’s just some of the Only Trump folks who threatened to stay home and forfeit the election to the d/prog if their guy doesn’t earn the nomination. Probably not a majority of Only Trump folks who would actually be so incredibly short sighted and spiteful.

    Danny in reply to BillB52. | November 19, 2022 at 11:27 pm

    I will vote for Trump if he is the nominee everyone here will.

    The issue is Trump has a zero percent chance of winning, has no discipline, and well what can Hillary say or do that will make you vote for her?

    I am realistic enough to know it is the same as what Trump could do for most Americans which is nothing.

    Everyone’s decision is already made. He is not a politician who lost who only half the country has an opinion on he has total name recognition.

DeSantis has been a good governor of Florida, but on a national scale he is GOPe and more McConnell RINO than a Trump USA first patriot.

I get the feeling the good things DeSantis has done in Florida is driven more by a desire to grandstand and get publicity, than an abiding faith in our constitution and the rights of the non-elites.

Yes President Trump likes publicity too, but I’ve never questioned his patriotic belief in our constitution and the rights of the non-elites.

Another Huge Miss: Ron DeSantis’ Silence on Latest DOJ Special Counsel of President Trump Speaks Volumes.

DeSantis also remained silent on the raid of president Trump’s home at Mar-a-Lago.

    CommoChief in reply to garybritt. | November 19, 2022 at 6:21 pm

    Well if DJT wants DeSantis to say nice things about about him then it might be helpful to have maintained a cordial and professional relationship with DeSantis. You and he can hardly complain when DJT decided not to maintain a civil and respectful relationship. Actions do still have consequences.

    This myth about silence on Mar a Lago is just that a myth. Was it the statement you wanted or delivered by the mechanism you wanted? Nope, clearly not but there was a statement and it criticized the actions of the DoJ.

    Flies, vinegar and honey.

      The argument you make against my post is incomplete, factually incorrect and not persuasive.

        CommoChief in reply to garybritt. | November 20, 2022 at 11:24 am

        Dude, you didn’t refute anything I stated, instead you made a dismissive claim without offering supporting facts for that claim.

        Unsurprising since in your original post you made a factually incorrect statement about ‘silence’ re the raid. You also chose to describe your ‘feelings’.

        All of us can have whatever opinion we want about the facts. We don’t get to choose the facts. When we offer opinions about the facts it makes a much stronger argument when we use logic to lay out how our inferences were drawn from the facts.

        When we don’t do that it displays the weakness of the argument. It boils down to one’s feelings and emotions being substituted for rational analysis.

    You pulled that out of your behind because you don’t care about any issue besides cultlike worship of Trump.

    I am sorry but if banning CRT indoctrination to you is grandstanding you have lost the plot long ago.

    By the way when you are a liar.

    Claiming Ron DeSantis said nothing about the Mar-a-Lago raid is nothing more than a lie based on bad intentions from a cultist.

      A mind reader you are.

        You just said that actual legislation adressing the major issues of our time is just grandstanding.

        Sorry about reading your actual words; I am so so so so so very sorry garybritt has to be believed in all of his lies and we can’t read his words either and see that he has completely lost the plot (which isn’t the prince as you think it is it is principle.).

Since all was exposed when Trump became president, stop blaming him for others’ stupidity for voting against self-interest or their barbarity for devaluing the life of the innocent. I’ll vote for DeSantis or Trump. Looking at the thread, the Democrats are winning with the rifts that are happening with people who want the same things for the most part. Democrats always stick together.

Well, with the House shifting to The R’s they need another place to hose the entangling “investigations.”

Much of this discussion won’t matter. The Dems have full control of the bureaucracy (or as much as they need), their cheat machine appears to be up and running with no real challenges from the GOPe, and the courts/RINOs aren’t going to do anything.

So when some mental defective Woketard gets elected in 2024, remember that.

BREAKING: Wife of Trump special counsel produced Michelle Obama documentary, donated thousands to Biden