Mark Kelly Wins Arizona Senate Race; GOP Needs Both Nevada and Georgia To Gain Control
Democrats need to pick up only one, with VP Kamala Harris serving as the tie-breaker.
Democrat Mark Kelly has won the Senate race in Arizona. Democrats now need only one more seat to retain control of the Senate with only Nevada and Georgia yet to be called. Republicans must win both those seats to gain control of the Senate.
Democratic Sen. Mark Kelly defeats Republican investor Blake Masters in Arizona.
Control of the Senate is still uncertain with two races undecided.https://t.co/ECoPVEhafG pic.twitter.com/QZdEkGMiT1
— The Associated Press (@AP) November 12, 2022
Democratic Sen. Mark Kelly won his bid for reelection Friday in the crucial swing state of Arizona, defeating Republican venture capitalist Blake Masters to put his party one victory away from clinching control of the chamber for the next two years of Joe Biden’s presidency.
With Vice President Kamala Harris’ tiebreaking vote, Democrats can retain control of the Senate by winning either the Nevada race, which remains too early to call, or next month’s runoff in Georgia. Republicans now must win both those races to take the majority.
. . . . With President Joe Biden struggling with low approval ratings, Kelly distanced himself from the president, particularly on border security, and played down his Democratic affiliation amid angst about the state of the economy.
He also styled himself as an independent willing to buck his party, in the style of McCain.
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There are 300,000 votes out
But they are pulling the same crap as 2020
Ballot harvesting
And they are going to elect a cartel lawyer as AG, what could go wrong with that!
Ozarks redux
They will pro at steal Kari’s win too
If we don’t destroy this voting “season” with voting day you can just close the door in America
I agree. This whole voting season is completely ridiculous. One day, twelve hour polling places (heck, even 24 hours), count ’em up, and it’s over that one Election DAY. Yes, we need absentee ballots for members of the military, the ill/infirm, et. al. But not for people who are just too lazy to go vote. I would feel this way even if this extended voting season helped our side. It’s just ridiculous no matter who benefits.
To get a chance to change it we need
1. Our own machine in order to win (see how California Republicans returned to winning congressional races after the 2018 disaster(
2. No more wasted elections. It doesn’t matter if we have a good enough machine to win if our candidates can’t win (in other words more Brian Kemp type candidates and fewer Doug Mastriano types).
It may be unsavory but a party capable of cutting back election season is a party that is in power. We are likely to gain a small majority in the house. That small majority is brought to you by the California Republicans adapting to election season.
Unlike California Republicans who can’t win anything statewide let alone win the state house we actually could hope to win in a lot of other states we could then reform.
The term machine has dirty connotations but we are literally discussing people doing something perfectly legal in order to get lazy or less motivated voters who are inclined towards us to vote for us.
Upvoted by mistake.
Care to share what part of that is wrong? Is it the we need to build our own machine to get our own tepid support out early to; or is it the we need candidates who aren’t repulsive to the electorate part?
Then get off your backside are vet before the primary.
I am not sure what you are saying. If it is “Vet before you vote before the primary” yep I actually did that, I never thought the bad choice of candidates was a good idea. I supported them fully in general election however.
84 years from now…
Sorry, Mitch’s Uniparty doesn’t fight those kinds of battles against itself.
No, we don’t need absentee balloting. That is the gateway that allowed all of this other nonsense. People think we need to make it convenient to vote. Your career choices are not grounds to make it convenient for you to vote.
Even make voting day a holiday, to take away that lame excuse. Clean up the verdammt voter rolls!! Issue full and up to day positive ID for the six people in the country that don’t have it. No bags/boxes/suitcases of ballots accepted after 8pm, then secured and guarded. No counting until there are vetted representatives from both parties present. All ballots have to have secret markings to guarantee validity (they can do it with lottery tickets). Full camera coverage at all counting stations. Full chain of custody tracking of all ballots, which must be transported by armored car.
All of this could be accomplished. Just do what Florida did.
Florida has several times the votes but can get it done in one day. Maricopa county is a disaster and all of the election officials there need to be fired.
Allowing mail voting allows fraud to get iget in the election. As said by Sundance Democrats chase ballots, Republicans chase votes.
I pointed this out days ago. It’s a new reality that some establishment republicans are apparently ignoring. No more free and fair elections. It’s all nationwide Tammany Hall. Republicans either play the slimy game Democrats have cursed this country with or they just won’t win. Of course, the country that now exists in that environment is not worth saving, so maybe it doesn’t matter.
It isn’t nationwide.
Alabama has traditional elections. One day of in person voting. Absentee ballots for military and those who will be …absent on election day, not for convenience.
In Alabama the voter turns in their own ballot with one exception. A voter must request an exemption for a medical emergency. Their physician must send in a letter describing the issue, confirming it is an emergency, declaring the voter is capable of filling out a ballot but unable to deliver it in person. The voter must appoint a particular person to turn in the ballot.
All that for a request for an exemption, which can still be refused if the local elections board decides to refuse it. Oh, and that request must be presented within the five days prior to election day. If approved the ballot must be delivered back to the clerk prior to noon on election day. ID checked to confirm. Signatures on all that paperwork must witnessed x2 or notarized.
It isn’t nationwide. It’s present in jurisdictions where folks elected politicians who allowed it. Once begun then those who don’t want to continue to lose will adapt to the changed reality and begin ballot harvesting operations to remain competitive in those jurisdictions.
Either adapt or be left behind. Those of us who were vigilant enough and fortunate enough to avoid a departure from traditional voting in our States must remain vigilant to prevent the same thing happening to us.
Just look at the Oregon governor’s race. Voting in Portland is like pushing the pedestrian button at an intersection. They just like to give you the idea that you are in charge of the outcome.
I’m still waiting for all the ballots to be counted. Is this for real?
Another primary fail by AZ Rs. You don’t grab someone from AAA ball for the starting lineup of the world series.
I prefer those candidates over the McCain accolites.
This 320,000,000 times.
And McCainiacs are all up through the state of AZ.
Masters ran a good race. AZ isn’t exactly the as when Goldwater was winning there. Until all the votes are counted the ‘fat lady’ hasn’t sung.
The problem in AZ was lack of funding. Some of that Masters brought on himself by PO McConnell by saying he shouldn’t be in leadership who then pulled $9+ million in funding. Leaving Masters unable to compete in AD buys for Aug and Sept. That was critical because folks start paying attention and making up their minds after Labor Day.
Eventually Rick Scott’s PAC pushed in $ but the opportunity cost of allowing Kelly to run AD for two months more/less uncontested and build a lead really hurt Masters.
This kind of self destructive, shank ideological allies due to personal dislike crap is petty and counterproductive to achieving victory. Anyone who engages in it is putting themselves and their selfish interests above the success of the party and above the goal of defeating d/prog and their weirdo ideological agenda.
The fact that McConnell controls all the $$ is the problem. McConnell is a Chinese-dependent man, who therefore is not Americans-First.
The power of senate majority leader needs to be cut down to size. Enough of this autocracy/aristocracy. How many decades in the senate? TOO MANY!
Well, McConnell doesn’t control all the money, just the GOP Senate Leadership Fund. There are a bazillion PACs (one of which, yes, is associated with McConnell–ONE), individual donors, corporate donors, other GOP outfits (like Rick Scott’s NRSC and also the GOP governor’s funds), and etc. Where do you get such radically incorrect ‘information’?
And how much of his war chest or personal fortune did Trump sink into the candidates he endorsed? Something like $16m (and none of his own money, of course). And that was from his PAC not his war chest or personal fortune. He had no real skin in the game, and he thought that his endorsement would be all that was needed. He thought wrong. Obviously.
Trump is also handicapped by endless lawsuits that should he lose, the DOJ and FBI can then turn around and use their new powers against anybody .
Another battle of many Republicans just refuse to fight. We deserve to lose. We are programmed to lose.
Exactly. There’s a lot more nuance to the world of campaign finance. McConnell doesn’t have the only game in town re funding but whether he puts in $ or pulls $ does influence other donors and PACs. McConnell swings a big stick and since it looks like he may be back as leader some folks decided not to buck him by supporting candidates he wasn’t backing.
One point though is McConnell pulled $9 million in pledged funds from Masters. Yes Rick Scott pushed in $ but not immediately because his funds were already allocated. So there was a delay that created a gap in ad buys that benefited Kelly.
If McConnell hadn’t initially pledged the funds then the Masters campaign would have secured funding elsewhere in the beginning and not been impacted by having it pulled away with no way to immediately replace it.
DJT isn’t blameless either. He spent lots of $ on running Purdue v Kemp in the GA primary. Those funds would have been better spent elsewhere in defeating d/progs.
Agreed on all points. But money isn’t always enough. Just look at Trump’s 2016 campaign; Hillary outspent him something like 3 to one (or maybe it was 30 to one? I forget), but it was an immense amount of money, and she lost. Ditto Stacey Abrams and Robert Francis, each burned through $100 million and lost.
That’s not even taking into account Jeb! and his crazy huge war chest in 2016 or Michael Bloomberg flushing how many millions on his failed bid in 2020. So while campaign finance is important, it’s not the deciding factor. You have to also be a candidate the people in your district, state, country want to vote for.
That’s why I always thought it was strange that Trump dragged his personal vendetta against Kemp to Georgia (backing Purdue). Georgians like Kemp; his approvals are good. And well, obviously, they kept him through the primary and the general elections. Politics isn’t just money. 😛
Fuzzy,
Very true. $ isn’t everything and it can’t buy happiness but it makes life and campaigns far easier when one has it v not.
I sincerely doubt that a couple of / few weeks of not having $9m from the SLF made a difference in the race. The campaign wasn’t broke because of that, there were other donors, PACs, etc. all involved (well, not Trump, but others affiliated with or supportive of the GOP). $9 million is a huge amount of money . . . outside a political campaign.
Fuzzy — some of it was hyperbole. Not researching before I comment. The reports I saw were that McConnell withdrew McConnell-controlled funding of $5 to $10 million from Masters shortly before the election – a few weeks, maybe 3? Not giving Masters time to get a new source.
That’s what I referred to.
I hear you, Close, being a fan of hyperbole myself on occasion. 😛 I just don’t think that small amount of money was going to make the difference here. You can disagree and still be completely sane. Heh.
We in Georgia do NOT like Kemp. We just think he was the only sure candidate to beat ABRAMS.
And that’s the truth on the ground here in Georgia.
Fuzzy is using fuzzy numbers, President Trump held endless fundraising for his candidates.
RonScott finally ponied up a few million.
DeSantis…his 250,000,000, not so much
1. Her numbers are correct Trump did nothing for raising money for the horrible candidates he selected.
2. Rick Scott unlike Donald Trump actually did contribute to the attempt to take the senate.
3. Ron DeSantis helped Florida candidates who had an extraordinary night.
Oh please, Trump held endless rallies during which he promoted…..himself and his 2020 grievances. Yes, he sent out endless emails soliciting money, but as several here have pointed out, that money didn’t go to other R candidates. Plus, the RNC this week confirmed that it is paying his ongoing legal bills. Trump only cares about one person, and it ain’t me or you or Phil. He does nothing without considering how much it benefits him personally. The American Psychiatric Association should dedicate its next edition of the DSM to Trump
“The problem in AZ was lack of funding. “
No. The problem is the GOP doesn’t support MAGA candidates unless they are stealth GOPe candidates. Like in Virginia. Or New Hampshire. Or Alaska.
Thanks Mitch! You really screwed the pooch this time! And you get to blame it on MAGA! Yeah, playing the Uniparty long game which sure resembles the Socialist Democrat long game.
Let’s accept that as true for a moment. Where was the alternative funding from DJT and his PACs to counterbalance this?
You want to frame it as DJT v establishment but then hold DJT blameless when he doesn’t support candidates who directly oppose creatures of the establishment like McConnell. That’s another example of putting DJT on a pedestal and stubbornly refusing to hold him accountable when makes mistakes.
God sakes, Trump fund raised like crazy for the MAGA candidates besides his endless rally’s
Ok great lots of rallies that boost small donors, I ain’t not diminishing that. How much did he commit to Masters in a race v a d/prog for control of the Senate and who much did he commit to Purdue in a r primary to hurt the sitting Gov Kemp?
It’s a question of priorities. In this case DJT decided hiring a sitting r Gov who he dislikes (mutual feeling for Kemp almost certainly) was more important that helping Masters beat Kelly and retake the Senate.
Hey Commo. Trump is not a Campaign Fund. McConnell controls hundreds of millions in via his Senate election fund and other affiliated funds. If you map out when he transferred funding and where it went, only a complete idiot couldn’t figure out his game. This was McConnell vs Trump and Trump was winning big. Near the end, he knee-capped Trump endorsed candidates and left them hanging while funding Murkowski in Alaska where the Republicans had that Senate seat regardless of who wins. The difference is that Masters and Tshibaka were endorsed by Trump.
McConnell told us in advance that the Senate looked shaky before the elections because of Trump endorsing poor candidates. That wasn’t the problem. Trump’s picks did spectacularly well. It’s McConnell who is throwing away the Senate control, just like Paul Ryan did in 2018. So McConnell immediately declares the end of MAGA on Wednesday, long before many races are settled and all of the Trump-hating robots pile on as if on cue.
The statewide candidates that DJT selected did well? The candidates for Gov and Senate? Do please enlighten us on the record of the DJT candidates for US Senate and Gov.
I keep asking for one of y’all to list out the wins and losses on the Senate and Gov races and have yet to see it.
Where you choose to frame the issue as establishment v DJT and then blame McConnell as the avatar of the establishment for lack of funding, a fair point IMO, then you gotta hold DJT accountable for him not spending sufficient campaign funds.
It is undeniable that DJT spent more campaign $ on trying to defeat Kemp in the GA r primary than he spent to help Masters. That’s a fact. It wasn’t a good idea or the correct priority, IMO, but it was the demonstrated priority of DJT. Defeating Kemp was more important to DJT than defeating Kelly.
The problem was that Blake Masters had no ability to persuade anyone who didn’t already agree with him, We have a state legislature and county boards for those people to learn the ropes.
Just reading this from Politico (so take with the usually recommended grain of salt): “During the summer, STEVEN LAW, the head of a McConnell-aligned super PAC, told the financier PETER THIEL , who had spent millions supporting Mr. Masters, that Mr. Masters had scored the worst focus group results of any candidate he had ever seen, according to people familiar with the conversation. Mr. Law’s group later canceled all of its Arizona television reservations.”
If he really was that awful, then throwing good money after bad made no sense.
If that’s all you got you better play them. And Blake Masters wasn’t a problem. The problem is this nonsense of early voting. If the World Series is spotting the opposition nine runs before the game starts the underdog is never going to win. Stop spotting runs.
Blake Masters was not all we had. The acting AG was on the radio every week warning the general public of the dangers and how he had their back. Compare the vote totals of Blake Masters and Kari Lake when they are done counting around Christmas.
Unless you’re the Dodgers.
If Kelly has won then the Dems will win the Gov too. Blue will stick to the Blue team. Walker in Ga? I doubt it. He is tied to Orange Man Bad. Dems and the media now know how to beat him. I will be pleasantly shocked if either R wins.
Totally depends on AZ and NV. If the Dems win those two then the usual cheating in GA will occur. If they need one more Senator then every Dem in the country will “live” in GA before the Dec election. It will be an amazing migration.
Nope. Won’t work. There’s a 30 day requirement for voter registration to be eligible to vote. So there was a two day window for any ‘new’ potential voters. If they didn’t get registered by last Thursday they can’t vote in the run off.
Back to turning out the existing pool of registered voters which didn’t go so well last time. Roughly 200K r voters who voted in Nov didn’t vote in the two Senate runoff contests.
“There’s a 30 day requirement…”
That’s only for R registrations.
You continue to lie your head off on behalf of the Democrats congratulations.
There are now two attempts to win by campaigning on “Your vote doesn’t count it is all fixed muh voter fraud” and they both failed miserably.
The second current failure was under ideal conditions for a Red Wave.
By the way Governor Ducey would have been elected senator had he been the nominee. By insisting on “muh voter fraud” you have successfully prevented Mark Kelly from losing his seat.
And since when did democrats ever care about “dah rulz”. They don’t. If they need to they’ll keep registering potential democrat voters under the table right up to the day of the run off election. And if caught they’ll simply say, “Oh, our bad. Won’t happen again.” and that will be the end of it as republicans won’t push the issue. They never do when it comes right down to it.
Maybe you guys missed the entire GA election law reform drama where the changes were trumpeted as Jim Crow 2.0? Perhaps you didn’t pay attention to Biden calling it Jim Eagle?
I suppose you missed moving the MLB all star game from Atlanta to Colorado over the passage of the reforms? You don’t recall Stacy Abrams wouldn’t shut up about the reforms?
A healthy skepticism is fine. A pinch of reasonable paranoia is a good idea; fool me once v fool me twice. On this y’all are too interested in presenting a doom and gloom, the r can’t win due to cheating, the d/prog have it in the bag BS.
These sorts of arguments do not help they hurt. It keeps r voters at home instead of voting because y’all convince them it doesn’t matter and their vote won’t count. Just like in the 2020 run off.
Ga still has massive “Mali in voting”, hence the cheat is allowed clearly
Ga did minimal to improve the voting.
Florida did.. hence the outcomes
So why did the count end up:
Gov
(R) Kemp 2,109,128
(D) Abrams 1,809, 537
Senate
(R) Walker 1,909,267
(D) Warnock 1,941,215
That’s some very bizarre ‘cheating’ in the Senate race to have the R in that race get more votes than the D in the Gov race. so did the D running for Senate. While the R candidate for Gov got more than any other statewide candidate.
Where is this cheating you claim?
They can’t “keep registering potential democrat voters under the table right up to the day of the run off election.”. The rolls are closed. Frozen. The copies now are what will be used at the election. Anyone who’s not on it will not be allowed to vote.
I checked the map and Atlanta is near the center of the state so with that many Democrats the election may flip but it’s unlikely that the state will capsize like Guam. We should check with Hank Johnston to be sure.
No. Keri Lake was a force and was a loved personality in AZ before she decided to run. It looks like her votes are being slow-walked to extend the “MAGA agenda is dead” propaganda. Even the pollsters have indicated that the uncounted vote is overwhelmingly in her favor. Lake is predicting that the final numbers will prove that she won in a landslide which is what the local polls were predicting. These midterms were managed to feed the very well organized propaganda campaign. Everyone knows that “neither” will fight off any recount or audit the vote efforts. That’s how a corrupt Uniparty system works.
Once we “move on” and accept this as normal, we will stop pretending that we have a two-party system and the language will be redefined to embrace tyranny in Orwellian terms. “War is peace”, e.g. If you disagree, you are arrested and rehabilitated which is already happening. Nothing to see here. Just conspiracy theory that mirrors what is going on.
But the cheating…
The cheating occurred before election day when some 300,000 votes were “assigned” to Keri Lakes opponent. That is why the most serious MAGA candidates were trailing big early in the day.
https://choiceclips.whatfinger.com/2022/11/09/retired-general-thomas-mcinern
y-outlines-midterm-anomalies/
Other than that, it was just a normal election. Nothing to audit. Just us crazy people concerned about provable evidence. Just because you witnessed a masked man running out of a bank carrying a large bag and shooting a gun into the bank doesn’t mean he’s a bank robber. You need more than that to launch an investigation.
I don’t know what happened with that link. Looked when I sent it. Try again.
https://choiceclips.whatfinger.com/2022/11/09/retired-general-thomas-mcinerny-outlines-midterm-anomalies/
She was much loved a few years ago when she was a Buddhist and hosted drag queens in her home. Today as a Trumpist? Not so much. Do try and keep up.
McConnell, McCarthy and McDaniel should all resign their leadership positions
Please order the tar and feathers for the retirement ceremony.
Only if Trump leaves the scene.
Trump was the #1 reason for this fiasco.
Why not a clean sweep? At least it would clear out the folks who were in a position to deliver but didn’t. Lets stop allowing folks to make excuses and instead hold them accountable for failure to deliver.
McConnell leaving and Trump staying would just mean Trump increases in importance.
If Trump stays someone who at least knows what needs to be done to win needs to be there.
McConnell did fail for example he failed to get Ducey to run for senate and had other failures to recruit potentially winning candidates in the general to risk humiliation in the primary which was a major failing.
However I just fear if it is just McConnell leaving that leaves Trump as undisputed leader to pull of exactly the same thing again.
McConnell failed but with it being just Trump he will be picking senate candidates based on the same criteria for next time and there won’t even be an attempt to recruit a potential winning candidate.
We need either a clean sweep or no sweep because we can’t afford Trump as sole leader of the party.
The post I was responding to left out one very significant Republican Party leader (Trump) who is also the one who bears by far the most responsibility for this midterm result.
If John Fetterman ran against Donald Trump in 2020 he would have won, that’s how much cheating there is
We are not going to vote ourselves out of this
The reason Trump lost 2020 in PA is because more Pennsylvanians voted against him than for him because Trump is a highly unpopular figure in the population at large.
Biden did not run as Biden he ran as an anti-Trump vote, and won.
Continuing to delude yourself about “Muh fraud” when Mastriano got 40% of Pennsylvania is delusional and will hand more winnable elections to Democrats.
Democrats want us to campaign on muh fraud and muh Trump….gee a wonder why with the electoral fortunes since 2016.
Places like Virginia where Glenn Youngkin threw the Trump election fraud claims not only off the bus but off the continent was a Republican victory IN A BLUE STATE!
Florida was about Ron DeSantis’ record as governor providing a good economy, fighting the woke agenda, standing against CRT and racial discrimination, standing against radical gender ideology and fighting back against woke capital.
Brian Kemp literally just won re-election in Georgia establishing that bad candidates running on issues people don’t care about that even worst most people actually are on the other side of are the losers, not winners who have their elections stolen by fraud.
Absolutely , but we’re screwed
https://www.wnd.com/2022/11/gaslighted-clear-democrats-just-stole-another-election/
It is hopeless in the Senate. Laxalt is now only 800 votes ahead, with enough votes to be counted that he will likely lose by 10-20K. The NY Post also has an article claiming that the mood at his campaign is gloomy. My estimate on the House is a Republican majority by only a shocking 1 to 5 seats.
Although not a Democrat, I have zero sympathy for the Republicans and think ALL leadership should be replaced. In the 2020 election, the Democrats laid out the roadmap as to how “modern” elections, with endless mail-in ballot periods and vote harvesting, are conducted. The Republicans had 2 years to adapt and did not. We can wish all we want how things should be like the good old days (and try to get rules changed legislatively), but “winners” adapt to the facts on the ground.
A final point – Biden’s policies, execution, and leadership have been the worst in my long lifetime. There is not one single thing that can be pointed to where it would be fair to say he did even a decent job. If this year’s performance with a “perfect setup” is the best Republican’s can do and they do not change their election execution practices, don’t count on them ever winning any national elections where the typical situation is less bad for the incumbent party.
Join the MAGA movement. We are the only ones fighting and we have been declared dead as of Tuesday. If we continue to just roll over again and buy into that, 2024 will be really depressing after DeSantis loses in a landslide. Republicans are really good at losing and then blaming someone else.
That has been what teh left has done for over 30 years. When do you expect DeSantis to lose? What the RNC has is a party afraid to win.
He’ll
Lose to Trump first
DNC v. RNC, 1982 consent decree. Ended in December of 2017 or 2018.
Read it and learn.
Close. The original Judge finally died but the Judge who was assigned the case ended it but not until after the 2020 election.
Now the national r party has to build from square one their own organization. At least they have the opportunity to compete on even ground but they gotta get moving. One noticeable difference is the lack of out right shenanigans v 2020. With r poll watchers and attorneys on ground and speed dial no huge batches of last minute ballots or five swing States closing down near simultaneously.
Trump just lost the midterms for us after he lost the 2020 election.
Ron DeSantis repainted a purple state red.
Your devotion to Trump is an abdication of all actual issues in favor of devotion to a prince.
Every time we have a close race the uniparty counting the ballots drags their feet comes up with no end of outlandish excuses and in the end, the left sues to blue.
They’re cheating. And without consequences, they’ll continue to cheat.
#FixCheatingFirst
Leslie Hunt , who just won the 38th district in Houston is HUGELY impressive,
Republican, Black, West Point Grad, Captain, 3 masters , married 2 children 1 on the way, … speaks so well!
https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/politics/elections/2022/11/08/437086/republicans-wesley-hunt-morgan-luttrell-elected-as-houstons-newest-members-of-congress/
Oh and Hunt is a HUGE MAGA
Fuzzy
It’s not strange that President Trump supported Perdue, he suffers traitors poorly. Kemp and Rat knew there was massive cheating and wouldn’t do a damn thing about it cause they are RINOs amd globalists at heart.
Kemp Did nothing to help Hershel, for God sakes McConnell, who is feeling the heat, had to beg him this week to campaign for him.
I’d be pretty ticked off if anyone, including a current or former president, came to Florida and told me that my governor, of whom I approve and voted for twice, was wrong for my state. You know who’s right for a state, the person chosen by the people of that state. Trump is not popular in Georgia and only won it in 2016 because almost everyone in the South HATES Hillary Clinton, and he became less popular charging in there trying to bully and bluster them into dumping a governor THEY LIKE while insulting their state, and by extension them, as corrupt. Is this really hard to understand? You don’t have to agree, but you must be able to see the other side, no?
To further support you going over the primary it was clear it would result in Trump who started out unpopular in Georgia would lose popularity.
Georgians didn’t actually believe Trump’s election claims which made the entire thing seem ridiculous to them. To the point where Brian Kemp wasn’t actually responding to David Perdue in his primary pitch.
However he didn’t ignore the voters he did the following in his pitch to them.
1. Running on his Covid response (extra benefit of winning over independents and even some centrist Democrats because his results can’t be described without the term good and he reopened very early)
2. Running on his economic record (a good one so added benefit of general election help)
3 Running on his social issues (added benefit of increasing appeal to Spanish and some other minority voters in the general)
4. Reminding everyone he has protected gun owners in his state (no general election appeal increased which is why that wasn’t key for him)
5. Reminding everyone he kept Georgia’s budget afloat during a catastrophe
6. Reminding people he extended vouchers giving a lot of extra education opportunities for many (very large general election benefits. That promise which he kept was essential to his 2018 win)
7. Reminder that he has made sure Georgia fully cooperates with ICE to deport illegal immigrants
David Perdue and Trump campaigned on claiming Brian Kemp stuffed the ballots for Joe Biden; Brian Kemp campaigned on a strong record and promise to further implement conservative policies.
Brian Kemp was talking to Georgia voters in general even during the primary while David Perdue was talking to a small cult of personality around Donald Trump. I hope we learn the right lesson and get more people like Brian Kemp, and fewer like General Failure of New Hampshire.
Yeah, everybody’s happy Kemp kept the state open during the virus.
But the illegal aliens are everywhere. Many counties are not following the law to cooperate with ICE.
https://immigrationpoliticsga.com/georgia-law-requires-all-jailers-to-report-incarcerated-illegal-aliens-to-dhs-but-its-not-enforced-repost-from-jan-2021-ocga-42-4-14/
In other words he pushed legislation that has helped ICE a lot in the state of Georgia and Democrats are trying to undermine him.
That is different from saying illegal aliens everywhere.
And Kemp lied, like DeSantis he is allowed to do really good things, as long as he goes along with the real “plan”
He lied about voter integrity , and for God sakes, it was his state that closed down because of a over running toilet, he didn’t go there personally , with his cartel and bust open the doors to see what was really going on, because he knew what was going on
I’m amazed at what naive people there still are in this world…in this very country
So you admit Brian Kemp kept his promises, has good policies, has good results, and has shown great judgement; right after Brian Kemp defeated a blue wave and overperformed dramatically in a catastrophic election year….and you hate him based solely on what you clearly just admitted is a figment of your imagination.
The problem is I don’t think it is your imagining bogeymen under every bed as you just said. I think what it takes for you to hate someone is Donald Trump to attack them.
I think you need to liberate yourself.
I think I already answered that .
If we don’t have the votes to end early and mail-in voting, the next best thing is to start pushing a message early in those places to “Save Your Vote”.
Find out through polling how many early Dem voters in every state, especially in these squeaker states, voted early but would have changed their vote after the debates and truth about Warnock, Fetterman, Kelly, etc came out.
Target those regretful voters not to “early vote Repub” as that likely won’t happen, but to simply wait to vote in ’24 til closer til election day so they won’t regret their vote again.
That decreases the early “vote the Dem” lead that they always get, and reduces the time and ability for the Dems to vote harvest.
The Dems still have no bench and will have two more years of Biden’s failures to get lumped in with.
It is strange that Republicans seem to have lost every toss-up.
Democracy is on the table, starting with elections. That should be a Republican issue going forward, to resume election integrity.
Probably won’t happen and so the uniparty wins
It’s not Republican messaging. It’s not low-quality candidates. It’s not Trump. It’s not abortion.
It’s mass mail-in/drop-box voting. It’s as simple as that. And Republicans will never win another election unless it’s stopped.
https://twitter.com/JoelWBerry/status/1591069176340226048?s=20&t=HrkQ41FCFPM-dBxGXw38Xg
Sent by voters who voted in Brian Kemp in a state that is having a runoff election.
Yes it is Trump and his low quality stop the steal candidates.
The d/prog run the jurisdictions where it occurs and they have no incentive to go back to traditional election day only in person voting.
The r and independents in those jurisdictions who don’t want the d/prog to continue to their victories are gonna have to adapt to the new landscape.
The mail out ballot/no excuse absentee framework is an entirely different world of elections than one day of in person voting. It becomes about getting those ballots to the counting center v getting voters to the polling place. To be truly competitive the r and indys are gonna have to change they way they run a campaign and develop a harvesting network of their own.
BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! Judicial Watch uncovers 900,000 illegal Aliens voting in Maryland and Virginia. A series of lawsuits to be filed against counties of each state in the coming months. Fairfax County,
Virginia has 400,000.
“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” – George Carlin, referring to the IQ bell curve
OMG
Is this chain of custody? Don’t make me laugh
Arizona Ballots Make Stop at Runbeck Printing Company to Sort Ballots Before They Are Sent to County — WITH NO OBSERVERS
People need to be arrested over this, but the sheriff, and Im sure the DOJ, are helping the steal. Where is AG brnovich (R)? Playing with his num-chuks again? Welcome to the 3rd world of the USA.
https://twitter.com/BenBergquam/status/1590939018824683521
We could agree to any unsourced twitter claim….or we could nominate people who actually could win in Arizona and start using our brains instead of Donald Trump to pick nominees.
Both Lake and Masters are quality candidates. They both ran competitive races. Both could every well have been elected in the purple State of AZ. Lake still very well may be.
Lake may limp over the finish line, but Ducey ran over it easily in 2018.
Masters on the other hand was a horrible fit for Arizona. He was campaigning as Trump’s man. I would love to see him come back from the dead but without ticket splitting to vote for Lake and against Masters the Lake election would be over to.
Blake Masters did not do a good job. Reminding people about Trump all the time could work if you are running in Wyoming. In a swing state Trump lost no.
He put in a good debate but that wasn’t enough to undo a bad campaign.
I am however cautiously optimistic about Lake because of the number of election day ballots that have to be counted. Her charisma and ability to effectively leverage Tu Quoque could allow her to succeed where Blake Masters failed.