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Arizona, New Jersey Electronic Voting Machines Already Causing Problems

Arizona, New Jersey Electronic Voting Machines Already Causing Problems

Electronic voting machines have got to go.

Here we go again! My British friend is happy they use a pencil and paper.

Tell me where you’ve heard this before. Electronic voting machines are already causing problems in some states.

New Jersey

CNN reported:

Voters in Mercer County, New Jersey, are having to vote manually Tuesday morning due to a problem with the voting machines. The county is home to Princeton, Trenton, Ewing and Lawrence Township.

“No one will be disenfranchised and we are working on fixing the issue at present. It may delay results but we will make sure everyone votes,” said Mercer County Clerk Paula Sollami Covello in an email to CNN.

The results will likely be tallied later than usual, but Covello did not rule out the possibility that the ballots voted manually could still be tallied Tuesday night.

The county has Dominion, the machine maker, and other IT professionals coming to fix the problem. Poll workers are on hand to walk voters through the process.

“There is an issue with our Dominion scanners not reading throughout the county. There is a slot on the top of the scanner and voters can vote — and are voting manually,” Covello added. “No voter should walk away. They can vote manually.”

Voters can and should still go to their respective polling locations. Their ballot will be inserted into the “emergency slot” in the machine, according to an alert posted by Princeton, a town in Mercer County.

Arizona

Arizona has a few races that are close and can change the Senate. Machines across the state are not working.

Maricopa County has new machines after a disastrous 2020 election.

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There was a decent sized line to vote and a large ballot here in KY. I was out in 45 mins, because it’s paper, pen and scanner.

Boy and isn’t the Democrat SOS in AZ still “counting” the votes?

Unbelievable

    And it’s the Republicans who blocked the efforts to audit the vote. That is what makes this election so “iffy”. The Republican establishment is just as crooked as the Democrats.

      In Bush v Gore big Al wanted to recount because of a close vote total. But rather than recount statewide he wanted to cherry-pick and only recount where he was likely to pick up vote and not recount where he thought bush might pick up more votes with the proposed more lenient vote check. He spent so much time trying to get a one-sided recount he ran the clock out on an impartial one – and then – like a kid who kills his parents and then pleads for mercy as an orphan – tried suing to void the legislated limit on time allowed to request a normal recount. Of course 3rd party unofficial newspaper recounts after the fact failed to sow an overturn of a narrow bush win – so claims an official one would have been different…. Are wishful thinking.

      This suggested added monitoring of cherry picked polls with no factual pretense for such stinks of Goreism.

Suburban Farm Guy | November 8, 2022 at 10:42 am

Why am I the opposite of surprised?

Chaos and confusion covering for customized, ‘just in time, just enough’ vote fraud. A minor variation on last time, same result. It’s not that they CAN’T run a clean election…

Otto Kringelein | November 8, 2022 at 10:46 am

The county has Dominion, the machine maker, and other IT professionals coming to fix the problem.

And every voting machine that Dominion and “other IT professionals” touch should be immediately invalidated and removed from the election as there will now be unapproved settings made to the system(s) and/or unverified software on the machines or both that have not undergone state approval in violation of New Jersey state election law and federal election law.

    That would be unfair on those who had voted using those machines.

    The real question here is why in the fuck are those machines still being used to begin with?!?!

      Otto Kringelein in reply to mailman. | November 9, 2022 at 7:37 am

      I didn’t say that the votes from the machines should be invalidated. Yes, they should be counted. But what I meant ins that the machines should not be used going forward in the election once Dominion technicians or those “other IT professionals” make unauthorized and uncertified changes to those malfunctioning election machines.

      The only recourse AZ and NJ really have is to remove the machines from use and replace them with certified machines that function properly. Kinda sucks but there you are and here we are.

    They will not be there to fix the problem.
    They will “fix the problem” if you know what I mean.

      Otto Kringelein in reply to Exiliado. | November 8, 2022 at 12:48 pm

      They are there to “fix the problem” by “fixing the problem”. The problem is that by “fixing the problem” Dominion & these other unidentified “IT professionals” have automatically decertified those machines because they now contain changes to settings/software/hardware that have not been reviewed and approved by the relevant state election officials which is a violation of every state election law that I know of and also violates federal election law as well.

      Sucks to be New Jersey or Arizona but they cannot just go in and “fix the problem”. That is illegal under current state & federal election law. The only recourse they have is to remove the malfunctioning machines and replace them with properly functioning election machines containing certified software, settings, and hardware. But since democrats have this odd penchant for ignoring laws they find inconvenient I highly doubt that will happen.

So, hypothetically speaking, what if the dems find a way to cheat themselves into retaining power? I have a little bit of a hard time believing that all the people who are pissed off at the left aren’t going to be extremely pissed off at such a result, especially given the enormous amount of cheating required to produce that result. So what comes next?

Remind me… who’s in charge of voting in Arizona?

Otto Kringelein | November 8, 2022 at 11:05 am

Vote Center at Pascua Yaqui Tribe Wellness Center, 5305 Calle Torim, is temporarily down. Elections staff are fixing a technology issue.

Same for any election machines touched in Arizona. The machines that are altered to fix this “technology issue” should be immediately invalidated and removed from the election as they will have unauthorized changes to their settings and/or unauthorized software and/or unauthorized replacement parts installed on the machines in violation of state and federal election laws governing electronic voting machines.

If AZ election officials can’t run an election properly they shouldn’t be running elections at all.

My trust in these machines is zero.

When I voted in Maryland a few elections back, I filled out a paper OCR ballot, then handed it to an election worker who put it through the digital reader. Who’s to say that all my votes weren’t switched without my knowledge?

Kansas, no problem. The line was two people long when I got there this morning. By the time I got my driver’s license out of my wallet, zero line. Scanned my license, verified and signed the tablet, picked up my paper ballot, filled it out, put it into the vote scanner, and out the door in less than five minutes. Any problems with the count and they can pull the *sealed* box of cast ballots out and manually count them.

Gotta love my state.

The Gentle Grizzly | November 8, 2022 at 11:34 am

Show of hands: who expected anything different?

My sounty does paper ballot scanned by optical scanner. We feed our own ballot into the scanner observed by a poll worker and get a serialized receipt for our vote.

My understanding is that the votes are still counted at the local level and forwarded to the state when counting is complete and certified, so no monkeying around with the totals or late ‘dumps’ of votes.

Similar to GA… You vote at a big screen… it prints out your ballot,, for you to double, triple check, and you walk your ballot over to a big black box, the Dominion scanner. I did not get a receipt.. that is a great idea…

So I am not happy, even though all the poll workers were very, very nice.

Computers can’t be trusted even when they’re working and set up properly. They depend on long-gone software (hacked compilers, assemblers, microcode) that can’t be checked even if you audit all the software they use.

See the Ken Thompson Turing lecture “On Trusting Trust” long ago for the trick if you’re a bad guy. All it takes is motivation.

    Martin in reply to rhhardin. | November 8, 2022 at 12:25 pm

    On trusting trusts hack would be a really fundamental level of corrupt for voting machines. I doubt they are going to that level of effort but could be. I would say they are corrupting the counts at a much higher lever than that.

    What is the underlying OS on a dominion voting machine? I don’t really see a need for voting machines or even really scanners. We squander millions on worthless crap. Hiring a bunch of people to hand count ballots seems a better way to go.

      henrybowman in reply to Martin. | November 8, 2022 at 12:54 pm

      I believe it’s one of the Microsoft embedded Windows versions, because I have seen several stories in years past about how the underlying database administration is a well-known Microsoft system that anyone with the password can get into and move the vote data around like littleLionel trains.

    randian in reply to rhhardin. | November 8, 2022 at 8:28 pm

    The more fundamental problem is you can’t audit the software they use, because you can’t be certain that the source code repository you’re looking at is the one actually used in the software they’re installing. Code audits aren’t sufficient anyway, you also need to verify that you can build a checksum-perfect binary from that code, and it wouldn’t surprise me if government auditors don’t do that. There are so many ways I could hide malfeasance from unsophisticated observers your head would spin.

      rhhardin in reply to randian. | November 9, 2022 at 5:52 am

      You can just recompile it and compare the binary. The real problem is that you don’t know that the compiler is any good – it can easily be the thing that inserts the hack unbidden.

      Likewise you can’t check the compiler. It will compile an identical version of itself but – and this is Thompson’s observation – once one early version of the compiler secretly inserts a payload then subsequent compilers no longer have the hack in their source code at all yet still insert the hack.

look at the masks.
virtue signal people UNITE!!!

The only problems are in problem places? Well, duh!

Virginia here….

Low tech solutions that are unhackable and fraud-resistant if applied correctly.

1. Voter ID required
2. Pen and paper on ballot page
3. Feed into machine that is a glorified scantron machine…could probably run on an Apple-IIE processor.
4. Get sticker and throw in trash to avoid looking like a douchey millenial

    henrybowman in reply to healthguyfsu. | November 8, 2022 at 12:54 pm

    I give it to our ten-year-old to annoy the Karens.

      Otto Kringelein in reply to henrybowman. | November 8, 2022 at 2:48 pm

      I collect as many “I Voted” stickers as I can and put them all on my jacket. The looks I get from the Karens is priceless. They can’t decide whether it’s a joke or I did actually vote 15 times.

    Otto Kringelein in reply to healthguyfsu. | November 8, 2022 at 2:46 pm

    Except that the dimbulb democrats in charge of elections in AZ or NJ or elsewhere would end up giving registered voters unsharpened pencils or pens that had dried up and didn’t work at all.

    Then there’s always this kind of nonsense:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/sharpies-bleeding-through-ballots-will-not-impact-your-vote/

      henrybowman in reply to Otto Kringelein. | November 8, 2022 at 3:16 pm

      Apparently, the poll workers in Maricopa County are real sensitive to the “sharpie scandal” issue from 2020, because I was told, “you can take a pen out of the cup, or you can use the one you brought.” Which I didn’t, because it was green, but it’s the thought that counts.

      I talked to friends today and both told me their sharpies are still bleeding though the ballots. The both just moved to AZ and when they complained, other voters told them next time, bring your own pen like everyone else.

    I am from Virginia, too. Specifically, Loudoun County. That giant scantron machine IS a Unisyn OpenElect Optical Scanner (OVO). It is not Dominion, but I have no faith in any system that is not hand-counted. https://www.loudoun.gov/183/Equipment https://unisynvoting.com/openelect-voting-optical-scan-ovo/

    New Jersey, Bergen county……………………
    1) Went into school gym
    2) Workers looked up my name and gave me the iPad to do my signature.
    3) You cannot put the iPad horizontal to do a normal signature.
    4) First stylus didn’t work.
    5) Second stylus didn’t work.
    6) Another worker had to show the first worker how to get up the right signature screen.
    7) Cannot do signature with a near vertical screen, so just did a rubric.
    8) No comment form worker, did not even ask for ID.
    9) Handed paper ticket to go to the machine, which I somewhat was able to sign with a PEN.
    10) Voted and refused the virtue signalling sticker.

      healthguyfsu in reply to exfed. | November 8, 2022 at 8:42 pm

      I think Conservatives should start crashing rock the vote and similar rallies that are shills for Dems. Just show up and be loud and proud about rocking the red vote and collect high fives from bewildered d bags.

One new (good) thing this time is that Maricopa County is letting any of their residents vote at any poll location, So when one poll location goes plotz, you can “vote with your feet” to somewhere else. We’ve decided to vote in our outskirts cowboy town instead of “closer in to civilization” where they assigned us.

    henrybowman in reply to henrybowman. | November 8, 2022 at 3:18 pm

    One consequence of this flexibility is that it makes you 100% dependent on computers, because people showing up at a polling location could require a ballot with unique precinct choices from anywhere in the county, so it has to be generated on the fly, personalized for you.

Technology will save us!

Never.

Hmm, the steal is on already it seems.

In NJ, this is par for the course. Besides, maybe 3 of the 13(?) CDs are competitive and I am not in one of them. Given that and the built-in fraud here, I am not voting this year.

As I understand it the issue in Maricopa turned out to be the darkness of the time stamp. The tabular rejected ballots whose timestamp was not within the darkness/lightness range settings.

These are supposedly all new machines. Pretty sure there was a class or at least an instruction / operating manual that pointed out this potential issue. Someone didn’t read it. Someone didn’t adequately test the machine they have ‘certified’ as fully functional with a time stamp marked test ballot from the same timestamp. Someone didn’t provide supervision. Someone didn’t provide oversight on the supervisor.

Stupid shit like this isn’t acceptable. It demonstrates either bad intent or incompetence. Either way it should disqualify every person involved from any elections related duties and responsibilities until the investigation is complete.

Maricopa “technical issues” that magically only affect Republican votes? Totally legitimate and believable. We should be comforted that thousands of Republican votes are being funneled into a single box where they are easily identifiable as such.