British Royal Expert Responds To Don Lemon Demand For Reparations: Get Them From Descendents of African Kings Who Sold Them
Expert tells Lemon those who want reparations should start at the beginning of the supply chain: “Where was the beginning of a supply chain? That was in Africa.”
A video resurfaced from about a week ago of royal expert Hillary Fordwich taking CNN host Don Lemon down a peg or two over the British royal family and reparations.
The video comes back after Her Majesty’s funeral on Monday.
The British royal family is priceless. Lemon said to Fordwich, “Some people want to be paid back and members of the public are wondering, ‘Why are we suffering when you are, you have all this vast wealth?’ Those are legitimate concerns.”
Fordwich agreed with Lemon that people want reparations but that they’re looking in the wrong place. Once again, people need factual history lessons:
FORDWICH: “Well, I think you are right about reparations. In terms of if people want it though, you always need to go back to the beginning of a supply chain. Where was the beginning of a supply chain? That was in Africa. And across the entire world, when slavery was taken place, which was the first nation in the world that abolished slavery? The first nation in the world to abolish it, it was started by William Wilberforce, was the British, in Great Britain they abolished slavery. 2000 naval men died on the high seas trying to stop slavery. Why? Because the African kings were rounding up their own people, they have them on cages waiting on the beaches. No one was running into Africa to. And I think you’re totally right. If reparations need to be paid, we need to go right back the beginning that supply chain and say, who was rounding out those people and having them handcuffed in cages? Absolutely, that is where they should start. And maybe, I don’t know, the descendants of those families where they died in the high seas trying to stop the slavery, those families should receive something, too, I think, at the same time.”
CNN’s @DonLemon tells royal commentator Hilary Fordwich the royal family should pay reparations — immediately regrets it pic.twitter.com/LotCfBoAym
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Wow!
Don Le Mon won’t be talking up reparations for a while .. I bet
This won’t phase him one bit.
Don’t assume he’s smart enough to learn from his mistakes. I think, for him, it takes actual repeated pain.
No. It’s now racist to disagree with a blacks person.
He will hit up an American left wing scholar with a degree in Grievance Studies.
The new leadership at CNN threw LeMon a lifeline by busting his sorry ass to a morning show crew and he pulls this nonsense. My guess is being black and gay won’t be enough to save him once the morning show bombs too.
He can then fail upwards like his pal and fellow mediocrity, Tater.
“Black, gay, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.” Ahhh, back when Deans were Deans.
dawn just can’t handle an intelligent, mature woman–in a few moments, she deflated the entire balloon of his sham ” career ” and revealed him as the ignorant, racist dumbass that he/she/it is
Dawn is not a Joy to work with. The Tide will soon turn, and as he slides out the door, the entire country will Gain from it, and we will all be of good Cheer.
It will take awhile before I’m of good cheer because he leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Reminds me of my first car that gave me so much trouble. It was a lemon.
Clearly MrPeabody does not do the laundry in his house.
“Daddy, why do brides dress in white”
“Well son, it turns out all major appliances come in white.”
Beautiful! Notice the slight grin when she realizes that he’s stepping right into it. She then proceeds to eviscerate his BS.
I watched on mute and saw. She did everything but pull his pants down.
Her verbal sorcery was able to do that, the camera refused to show it.
If Toobin had been the interviewer, she could have had a hat trick.
finally someone with sense about “reparations.” This “reparation” crowd talks like slavery was something invented by the Europeans to be racist against Africans. In reality, it was quite the opposite.
European societies had a form of slavery in the early middle ages, leftovers from the Roman Empire, but mostly even serfdom had died out by the 14th century, fueled, I believe, by the Christian idea that all people are children of the Most High God and that heaven is an egalitarian place of rest.
Slavery in its modern form was imported to Europe by the Ottoman empire and slave markets of Western Africa.
It was because the cheap labor was African slaves that modern racism started. The rest of the slave ship destinations in the New World (Brazil, Mexico, Louisiana) created very complex social structures based on your ancestry: European-aristocracy, European-other, Native American, African… and mixtures of them all. In the United States, it was the 1-drop rule. So I contend that it was slavery that created racism, not the other way around.
Serfdom was also nailed by the Black Death which reduced the population and made each worker more valuable. Slavery was never a “white” thing since whites were also slaves. But in today’s intersectionalism reality never matters. Africa… black and Arab slavers.
ah, yes, the plague. I had forgotten its effect on the population of western Europe.
For many thousands of years weren’t slaves those who lost the latest war?
Yes, that’s why so many armies would fight to the death because the other alternative was worse.
I recommend reading economist Thomas Sowell’s “Conquests and Culture: An International History”. You will learn that the word “slave” derives from “Slav” because of the large number of Slavs enslaved by the Ottoman Empire. He claims that there were more white slaves than black slaves.
Per capita, yes
As Alaskabob said, it wasn’t some ideal of Christian egalitarianism that did for serfdom. It was the labor shortage caused by the Black Death, which raised wages in the cities so high that you could no longer keep serfs down on the farm, after they’d seen Paree. They’d either escape to the city and get a job, or they’d go with their lord’s permission and send him a portion of their wages, much as many slaves did in the US South. Eventually they stopped sending the money, and there was nothing the lord could do about it.
Finally somebody said the bleedin’ obvious! The slave trade was an industry, capturing Africans by other Africans to be warehoused by the thousands to await buyers. The Kingdom of Benin was notorious for this from the 1600s- to the late 1800s. These Africans were slaves while they waited, warehoused usually stripped naked, when buyers showed up the slaves were loaded onto ships as slaves and brought to the Western hemisphere. Once here, they were resold as slaves. They were not enslaved when they got to the plantation as is the common narrative. They left Africa enslaved.
This does not even mention the slave trade from East Africa before Europeans ever showed up. For centuries, Africans sold other Africans eastward across Arabia and the Indian Ocean.
dawn imagines herself as The Woman King fighting Whitey to free the slaves.
A review of that movie said it is a whitewash of history.
The movie is about the people who were doing the enslaving. Their whole empire was based on slavery. Hollyweird decided to make them the good guys, lol
Ah, but that is not how the word “enslaved” is being used by leftists today. In yet another example of how the left bastardizes the language, when they say someone was “enslaved” they don’t mean “turned into a slave”.
Their ideology is that there is no such thing as a “slave”, so a person can’t be turned into one. Instead, a person held in slavery is being “enslaved” every moment. He is inherently a free person, so the person purporting to be his “owner” is actively enslaving him, over and over and over. The enslavement ends only when he either dies or gains his freedom.
Thus they say things like “George Washington enslaved many people of African descent”. Of course he did no such thing. He owned slaves but he never in his life enslaved anyone.
You’re right about bastardizing the language. Every time they do it, they need to be corrected right to their faces.
One of the Intersectional Olympics Gold Medals wont help the special stupid lemon displays to keep his job. At some point money talks
Wow. Finally met a Hillary I like.
That left a mark
How about we leave the past where it is instead and stop trying to punish the people of today for the sins of their ancestors. Reparations are just another shakedown effort and a means of trying to pit one sector of society against another.
You’re right of course, but it ain’t gonna’ happen.
This is why the left is committed to changing history.
For grifters, REAL history is a bitch.
That is what real history does to mythical narratives
Dumb dawn won’t let this dissuade her. All she has to do now is sob for emmit till and she’ll win, as long as she doesn’t mention louis till.
Placing eyeglasses on a negro doesn’t make him smarter.
Or an actor:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2085387/Obama-schmoozing-time-Brad-Pitt-Angelina-Jolie.html
Though some dogs do look smarter wearing glasses:
https://www.freepik.com/free-photo/cute-dog-wearing-glasses_13402709.htm
“And maybe, I don’t know, the descendants of those families where they died in the high seas trying to stop the slavery, those families should receive something, too, I think, at the same time.”
Yes, and I’d recommended something for the families of the 360,000 Union soldiers who lost their lives in the war that ended slavery in this country.
I’ll bet that 99% of us are descendants of slaves if you go back far enough.
Or a domestic abuser (cavemen courtship).
“Ip Gissa Gul.”
One of George Booth’s funniest.
Used to be very hard to find online because it got canceled (“It celebrates RAPE!!!”)
Now they’re selling giclee prints of it for $100+. Go figure.
It’s strange how the Muslim slave trade in Africa, Europe, and India never gets mentioned. They were the biggest slavers in the world, capturing millions of slaves. The British and American slave trade was a drop in the bucket by comparison.
Also, of all the slaves transported to the New World, the vast majority (>75%) went to South America and the islands.
The facts regarding the African Barbary pirates and their hundreds of thousands of European white slaves would have made a good response to Lemon as well.
Speaking of sociopathic garbage:
McConnell-aligned super PAC pulls out of Arizona:
https://www.axios.com/2022/09/20/mcconnell-aligned-super-pac-arizona-blake-masters
Yeah, we know the RNC is shutting off the money spigot to MAGA candidates.
The first “slaves” imported to the colonies by two British businessmen were white Poles. The first legally recognized slave owner in the colonies was a black man, who petitioned the magistrate to effectively steal a freed black indentured servant from a neighbor farm.
Can’t say for sure where she got that but her comments sound a lot like the argument agn. reparations in my 2017 Poverty of Slavery: https://www.amazon.com/Poverty-Slavery-Unfree-Pollutes-Economy/dp/3319489674
Has anyone actually bothered to listen to what he said? She seems not to have. He didn’t mention slavery.
He asked her about colonialism. His argument was that the royal family, among many others, colonized various places, grew rich from that enterprise, and now the victims’ descendants are poor while the perpetrators’ descendants are still rich from that, so shouldn’t they compensate them?
Now that argument is indeed wrong, but not for the reasons she gave. She completely ignored his question and instead went off about slavery, making a reasonable case against reparations for that, but not even trying to address why reparations are not owed for colonialism.
And no, reparations are not owed for colonialism either. Because overall colonialism (a) did not enrich the colonizing powers; and (b) greatly benefited the colonized populations.
With the notable exception of Leopold’s rule in the Congo, European colonial governments were far more benign than the governments they replaced. To the people in these places, an enlightened ruler from far away was much preferable to a tyrant from next door.
Leopold was a monster, but he was the exception, not the rule, and when the Belgian people found out about it they took the Congo away from him and for more than fifty years ran it as an ideal colony, one of the best-run countries in Africa. People forget that. The history of Belgian rule in the Congo is something the Belgians should be proud of, not ashamed.
Meanwhile, far from enriching themselves from the colonies, the European powers poured resources into them. The main reason they decolonized in the 1950s was that they could no longer afford the money drain that their colonies had turned into. So they turned them loose, with foreign aid that was a lot less than the colonies had been costing them, and the colonies mostly turned into sh*t holes, as Trump famously put it. Certainly the Congo did, and the Congolese people would have been far better off if the Belgians had stayed. Likewise for most of the British colonies.
In addition, at least in the case of the British royal family, it had little to nothing to do with any of this, so its wealth is just irrelevant.
When someone states “reparations for colonialism” they are most assuredly talking about slavery, not only in the English colonies that would become the USA, but other colonies that also participated in the North Atlantic slave trade. England outlawed slavery in 1833, so well after the USA was born so when colonialism is stated , it is directly linked with slavery within the context of reparations. It’s an ugly truth all the race peddlers don’t want out in the open because it destroys the “White man bad” wokeism talking point and destroys the “systemic racism” rally call as well.
No, when someone states “reparations for colonialism” they are absolutely not talking about slavery. They are talking about colonialism, which is an entirely different and unrelated topic.
This shows how very wrong you are; reparations for colonialism would be paid to the colonies, not by them!
If the UK and/or the royal family were to pay reparations for colonialism (which they shouldn’t), not a penny of that would go to any former slave.
This again shows how badly you misunderstand the case. When “colonialism is stated” it has nothing to do with the USA, except perhaps in the context of the Philippines.
No millhouse – don was specifically into the REPARATIONS and THAT is another term for “mo moneys”! You do make a nice point about why the British turned over their “empire” to the locals. Maybe the USA should do the same? Yes Brother – let’s set ALL Africans and “african Americans” FREE! Free of the binds of our Federal Government! FREE of the torture of waiting till that EBT gets recharged!! FREE to get up off their lazy a55es and get out and get a JOB!! FREEE!!!!!! And as far as “reparations”?? Let everyone who was a SLAVE file a claim and everyone who OWNED a SLAVE turn over assets to pay them for their fair wages for all hours worked! Well, minus the costs of their upkeep! It’s time to END this stupidity – no DEMOcrat is STUPID enough to enrage the WHITE portion of the USA by following through with this nonsense! Well, maybe the turnip in the White House’s handlers might see it as another wedge to drive into our Nation!
No, BL, he very clearly asked about reparations for colonialism, not for slavery.
Are you under the impression that the word “reparations” automatically implies “for slavery”?! That’s just wrong.
“Are you under the impression that the word “reparations” automatically implies “for slavery”?! That’s just wrong.”
Yes it is wrong, but it’s a wrong pushed by those in power to re-allocate more wealth away from someone to benefit themselves through “charities or foundations”. Follow the money and you will see why.
No, Mt Fuji, it’s not wrong as in “a wrong argument” or as in “morally wrong”. It’s wrong as in it’s not true. That is absolutely not what the word “reparations” implies. When slavery is meant, it is specified, or obvious from the context. Otherwise the word does not in any way imply slavery, and if you are under the impression that it does you are simply wrong.
But demanding reparations from Africa would violate the sacred litigative principle of Plunder The Deep Pockets™.
Poor smart ass Don Lemon. Thought he had the perfect gotcha question; got his arse handed to him. No wonder he was demoted to the A.M. show.
kamala comes from slave owners. gonna ask her for money?
She comes from slave owners in the exact same way most black Americans do — from male owners and their female slaves. So assuming reparations were to be paid (which they shouldn’t) she would not be on the hook for anything.