Trump: FBI Raided Mar-a-Lago – “These Are Dark Times For Our Nation”
“They even broke into my safe”
I was going to write a post for later tonight about the rising tide of repression via DOJ and soon the IRS under the Democrats. The criminalization of politics under the disgraceful Merrick Garland has gone on for too long and is getting worse.
Then this happened.
According to a statement just issued by Donald Trump, FBI agents raided and for a time occupied his Mar-a-Lago home, and even broke open his safe.
Trump issued this statement:
“These are dark times for our Nation, as my beautiful home, Mar-A-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, is currently under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents,” read the statement from the former president.
“Nothing like this has ever happened to a President of the United States before. After working and cooperating with the relevant Government agencies, this unannounced raid on my home was not necessary or appropriate,” the statement continued.
“It is prosecutorial misconduct, the weaponization of the Justice System, and an attack by Radical Left Democrats who desperately don’t want me to run for President in 2024,” he added, “especially based on recent polls, and who will likewise do anything to stop Republicans and Conservatives in the upcoming Midterm Elections.”
He went on to say that the FBI broke into his safe and compared the raid of his home by the FBI to the burglary of Democrat offices by Republican operatives during the Watergate scandal.
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“Here, in reverse, Democrats broke into the home of the 45th President of the United States,” Trump concluded.
— Trump War Room (@TrumpWarRoom) August 8, 2022
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The NY Times reports:
The search, according to two people familiar with the investigation, appeared to be focused on material that Mr. Trump had brought with him to Mar-a-Lago, his private club and residence, after he left the White House. Those boxes contained many pages of classified documents, according to a person familiar with their contents.
Mr. Trump delayed returning 15 boxes of material requested by officials with the National Archives for many months, only doing so when there became a threat of action being taken to retrieve them.
If that’s it, then it’s even more disgraceful. Failure to return documents to the National Archives? Are you kidding me?
The feds better have MAJOR stuff on Trump that locks him away, or they may have just elected him president again.
So the president with the lowest approval ratings in our lives just had his department of justice’s FBI raid the private home of the leading candidate to replace him in the next election? This is banana republic third world level crazy. And scary.
— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) August 8, 2022
This FBI raid on Donald Trump’s Florida home is terrible for America – and it will backfire on the Dems.
— Miranda Devine (@mirandadevine) August 8, 2022
Hold up, you’re telling me Donald Trump is getting raided by the FBI before Hunter Biden and we’re supposed to believe the FBI is operating in good faith?
— Caleb Hull (@CalebJHull) August 8, 2022
The local Florida reporter that broke the story that Mar-a-Lago was searched by the FBI. https://t.co/Lveno9I6KL
— Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) August 8, 2022
THIS IS A PROVOCATION
If the Trump raid goes where Democrats want, the Capitol riot may look quaint in retrospect. It’s dangerous. Many voters believe 2020 was unfair; their concerns remain; and they see a double standard at DOJ. This is a disaster for the rule of law and potentially for America, too.
— Joel Pollak (@joelpollak) August 8, 2022
This is a provocation. They are trying to get a reaction that allows a further crackdown. https://t.co/dxWJIXSoaj
— William A. Jacobson (@wajacobson) August 8, 2022
This is it.
This is the hill to die on.
— Monica Crowley (@MonicaCrowley) August 8, 2022
The raid of MAL is another escalation in the weaponization of federal agencies against the Regime’s political opponents, while people like Hunter Biden get treated with kid gloves. Now the Regime is getting another 87k IRS agents to wield against its adversaries? Banana Republic.
— Ron DeSantis (@RonDeSantisFL) August 9, 2022
I think a lot of people are feeling this way
I’m on record as preferring an alternative to Trump in 2024. But this raid will make many people like me rally behind Trump — for all his flaws — to stop the abuses of power by federal law enforcement, intelligence services, military brass, and, most of all, Democrats in Congress
— Joel Pollak (@joelpollak) August 9, 2022
Democrat lawyer Mark Elias gives away the game, it’s about disqualifying Trump from 2024.
The media is missing the really, really big reason why the raid today is a potential blockbuster in American politics.👇 pic.twitter.com/3BdI9NA9Az
— Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) August 9, 2022
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Act of war. This is what happens in banana republics. Maybe we will have a hot civil war after all. Let’s hope there are enough patriots in important positions willing to stop this.
Our position is the most important
It just may be that we citizens are going to have to stage our own Tiananmen Square protest. They can’t kill us all. This is a major affront to every American who values constitutional law and personal freedom. This tells us that we are now officially under a tyranny. Requires immediate response by all. Let’s see how those nutty Republicans react… if at all. I would love DeSantis to be the first to denounce this in no uncertain terms.
The Republicans in office will do nothing, because they fear being raided themselves.
Maybe if just one did a Davy Crockett and walked out of Congress…
Just one more load of Bananas for the Republic.
I was shocked (pleasantly) today when I received an emailed press release from my house rep containing this:
Y’all know one of my hobbyhorses is that the fedguv has usurped unconstitutional police powers (namely, any police power) and that the FBI is illegitimate. But I’m pleasantly shocked to see an official statement to exactly that effect from any elected politician.
It’s starting
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/08/trump-supporters-gather-outside-mar-a-lago-after-fbi-raid/
I do hope they read the professor’s column warning us all to keep our anger in check then. They are trying to provoke a reaction to justify further war on terror 2.0.
Look what happened when he was in office. He wasn’t significantly defended by anyone. I never thought I’d live to see our country turn full Soviet.
This, and the j6 gulag. Yeah, we’re there.
Part of the regime’s plan must be to incite some violence from the right.
hell no, what is the matter with you? Do you want the destruction of our country?
Unarmed patriots are not enough ain’t gonna cut it.
Banana republics don’t hold obviously corrupt people to account 🤦♂️
Now we know why Wray had to leave the hearing early to start his “vacation “
That bum piece of garbage, the chutzpah of that cretin. Hell has a special spot for him.
Verordnung des Reichspräsidenten zum Schutz von Volk und Staat
§ 1. Die Artikel 114, 115, 117, 118, 123, 124 und 153 der Verfassung des Deutschen Reichs werden bis auf weiteres außer Kraft gesetzt. Es sind daher Beschränkungen der persönlichen Freiheit, des Rechts der freien Meinungsäußerung, einschließlich der Pressefreiheit, des Vereins- und Versammlungsrechts, Eingriffe in das Brief-, Post-, Telegraphen- und Fernsprechgeheimnis, Anordnungen von Haussuchungen und von Beschlagnahmen sowie Beschränkungen des Eigentums auch außerhalb der sonst hierfür bestimmten gesetzlichen Grenzen zulässig.
Tick,tick, tick.
Subotai Bahadur
It’s always ” it can’t happe here”. It just did:
Decree of the Reich President for the protection of people and state
§ 1. Articles 114, 115, 117, 118, 123, 124 and 153 of the Constitution of the German Reich are suspended until further notice. There are therefore restrictions on personal freedom, the right to freedom of expression, including freedom of the press, the right of association and assembly, encroachments on the secrecy of letters, post, telegraphs and telephones, orders for house searches and confiscations as well as restrictions on property, including outside the legal limits otherwise specified for this purpose.
Clearly, these people are scared shitless that Trump will reign them all in, lock manyof them up, kill their gravey train.
> lock manyof them up, kill their gravey train.
He’s not vindictive enough to lock them up. But he will likely fire many of them.
Can he blacklist people from EVER working in government or law enforcement?
W Slovenian scary times
This raid is just the beginning.
Next, President Trump will be arrested, handcuffed and possibly put in leg irons. Garland already has a Grand Jury convened in conjunction with the January 6 show trial
It’s going to happen, so better prepare for it.
Things keep getting worse.
If we could burn the desperation the left is expressing, we wouldn’t need oil.
Dimsdale: I would guess that there was far more probably cause in the Watergate break in than this fascist farce.
They were committing a crime in a search for political information. They didn’t have probable cause brought before a judge, or the review and accountability of a warrant procedure.
I can’t believe the autocorrect
We.live.in.scary.times…
Let’s see if that works
I was wondering what “Slovenian scary times” referred to !
Thanks for the clarification !
The Stasi is a threat to this nation. Same with our government.
Magical thinking… safe full of Letsgobrandon flags? someone tipped him off? I can hope.
According to Levin, they are looking for official White House records Trump allegedly took with him after “losing” the election. You know, those documents he flushed down the toilet. They have plenty of hearsay evidence and even a picture of the guilty toilet.
They are just looking for anything they can use against Trump. The National Archives are just the excuse.
Yup. Nothing happened to Sandy Berger, who did in fact steal and destroy documents for the Clintons.
This is truly repugnant.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Thomas Jefferson
It won’t get better until a critical mass understand what box we are really on. Everything else is just marking time and hoping for a leader.
Criminalize politics. What could go wrong?
Who’s stopping it?
No one.
On Trump’s worst day, he is virtuous compared to his deranged enemies, who have no respect for democracy or the republic.
But mean tweets!!!…….
Tell me again what the punishment was for Sandy Burger when he stole and destroyed documents from the National Archives?
“At his sentencing in September 2005, Berger was fined $50,000, placed on probation for two years and stripped of his security clearance for three years.”
Before his death in 2015 he was on the Shillary for Prison campaign.
Merrick Himmler.
You’re not exaggerating. Garland is a sick, sick man, and a very corrupt one.
Imagine if Obama managed to get him on the SCOTUS…
They will
Plant whatever it is they think they need
And Hillary had what on her servers? What on her Blackberry? The GOP has done nothing for the political prisoners of 1/6. They will do nothing to stop this now. Americans here and abroad are one their own with no one to protect them from dictatorships here and elsewhere. The Government fears no one now. This is literally the most internally dangerous time in American history… that is overshadowing even the Civil War.
This IS the first shot of the Second Civil War.
1. This is horrible for America
2. If you honestly thought “It couldn’t happen here congratulations welcome to planet Earth get your head out of the sand and get working. Work on the election of enemies of the FBI.
3. This happened routinely to Muslims during the first War on Terror. If you still clung to our old Bush era Crusade against Islam congratulations on getting a wake up call in the form of the FBI pushing the same propaganda and tactics against us. Now drop the Muslim baiting and get fighting against the real enemies.
4. Tragically this won’t sway public opinion. I wish it could but it can’t.
Assuming that real elections are part of our political process anymore.
Subotai Bahadur
Venezuelamerica.
Good start (1 and 2), and bad finish (3 and 4).
Name an arrest of an innocent Muslim during the first war on terror.
What a troll.
It ranged from this (yes it is CNN, but the story is very real and this story was in fact covered by Tucker Carlson) https://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/29/politics/aby-rayyan-fbi-terror-sting-pizza-man/index.html
To the FBI plots to create reasons to arrest (see below)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/nov/16/fbi-entrapment-fake-terror-plots
To this
https://theintercept.com/2015/03/16/howthefbicreatedaterrorist/
The FBI was doing exactly the same thing to Muslims it is doing to conservatives today. I know George W Bush was someone we invested a lot into so his blatant human rights abuses are still something tempting for Republicans to defend.
Get over it and get over yourself, George W Bush hates you and supports the FBI War on Terror 2.0 and supports it strongly.
If you don’t like the way the FBI is treating us now you need to admit that it was equally wrong when it was doing that to Muslims.
Don’t want Muslims in America. Until they renounce psychopathy!
Renounce what? Are you as a Christian asked to renounce bad Christians every ten minutes? There are Mexican Drug cartels enslaving young women into prostitution when was the last time you had to denounce them?
Did you like when the entire media establishment decided it would tar Trump with white supremacy by asking him to re-denounce it every ten seconds?
They aren’t terrorists, they are not connected to terrorism, the vast majority of plots including plots that got into action have the FBI fingerprints all over it, they are your fellow citizens, they are religious and share your conservative values.
That you want to be at war with them demonstrates exactly why politicians try to make you invest in them instead of the other way around.
I get it you invested yourself in George W Bush and his crusade.
Get over it, get over yourself. George W Bush is a big cheerleader for War on Terror 2.0 (against us) he hates you stop fighting for his agenda.
1. Yes this is terrible for America.
2. Yes, its only a matter of time before they come for you.
3. This is irrelevant and has absolutely no meaning in the context of what went down at MAL.
4. You are right. Those who truly detest Trump will not be swayed by this nor will those who love Trump. Haters are gonna hate regardless.
True. What will happen–is happening–is that people who were willing to look at another candidate in ’24 (DeSantis or Pence, whomever) are now enraged and prepared to throw their support behind Trump. This could backfire on Dems in a big, big, yuge way.
With all due respect, you are making some assumptions that may not be valid.
Remembering that this is a Leftist regime that hates our country, Constitution, and people and wants to crush them all.
Remembering that this was done by the FBI whose main modern claim to fame is not chasing and catching criminals and spies, but rather entrapping anyone who opposes the Left along with the occasional mass murder,
Noting in passing that the judge who signed off on the order was a previous US Attorney who resigned his position to successfully defend Jeffrey Epstein and some of his people in an earlier attempt to get him for his activities [2007] and then became a major fundraiser for the Obama campaign,
And now it appears that this is an attempt to intimidate the Republican Party [in itself not hard to do] and block President
Trump from running in any putative election in 2024.
Given the nature of those who set this up, you seem to be assuming that there will be an election in 2024 [we may know by this November] and not some form of seizure of power and/or with the FBI’s modern history that President Trump will not be allowed to survive if this gambit fails.
We are raised with, and socialized with, the belief that Constitutional politics are all that there can be. It is the norm that we are raised with. World history, human history, says otherwise. It is not beyond reason at this point to consider that our government has moved outside the Constitution [with no real opposition from the Republicans by the way] and our national politics are more Roman in nature. Say from about the year 37 AD.
Subotai Bahadur
And DeSantis is handling this very well. Great for Trump but this isn’t hurting him either. Both are getting stronger and stronger.
Why? I mean nothin in the right wing reporting actually can address the elephant in the room. I’ve the fact that it was a lawful search with probable cause. A judge signed of on it, and Wray is a Trump appointee voted for by Republicans. The right is such a joke right now. Why not not send Trump some more money so he can embezzle it 😂🤣
About 3 I don’t see how it could be irrelevant to go over the FBI pattern of behavior, see how they built themselves up to this point, and to say we really need to stop being Muslim haters.
I am sorry but as long as we cling onto war on terror 1.0 we are extra vulnerable for war on terror 2.0.
We need to convince people to be on our side instead of that of the FBI. How can you possibly do that while still praising their first war on terror?
You also cut yourself off from some of the worst abuses the FBI has committed through its existence.
I don’t understand this harping on the horrible crimes perpetrated on the peace-loving people of Islam. Was there a secret dungeon under Trump’s house in which he stored Muslims? Or are we concerned the FBI might have planted some Muslims at Mar-a-Lago?
Find the part of the post I even mentioned Trump? I said Bush, and it is relevant because the same people are doing the same thing just to a different group.
It is furthermore relevant because we need to be honest with ourselves.
You want Michigan right?
Dearborn Michigan going Republican could give us that, but not if we don’t mend our broken relationship with the community we heavily victimized under George W Bush.
With Michigan going red the FBI would be in a much weaker position.
The only institution we have any power in is government, we don’t have the luxury of throwing away contesting Michigan to pretending war on terror 1.0 was anything but a disgrace.
Perhaps you were thinking of the Japanese internment by FDR…
Perhaps you could direct your ire towards something relevant to todays world?
The problem is that our side just isn’t good at the civil disobedience thing. If Trump DOJ had raided Obama like this, the 2020 summer of peaceful protesting would have looked, well, actually peaceful in comparison.
CBS is reporting that the raid had to do with missing classified documents. HT @RonColeman. I smell something, and it isn’t roses.
He’s was the President of the United States
He’s allowed classified documents, any and all classified documents
I would think that a President’s right to access & possess classified documents would end when he leaves office: All such in his possession would have to be returned.
OTOH, as the ultimate classification authority, he could declassify pretty much anything.
Any such in his possession while he was in office he can claim he declassified them as he left. Doesn’t have to be in writing and certified and notarized.
Yes, but I assume that, legally speaking, he would have to formally declassify them before leaving office, in which case there would be a record of that declassification.
Still, this is merely a legal comment on a speculation as to the pretext for the raid.
Nah. That’s not correct. If he has x document and that doc is classified then he is subject to the same rules for handling, storage and declassification as everyone else.
A sitting President could, as the unitary executive, determine they are declassified prior to the end of his term. He could simply have a list of the document titles with his signature and the date of declassification but far stronger case if also witnessed and a second signature.
There’s no such thing as I declassified them in secret and no one knew but me and there’s no sort of inventory or simply a type written list and letter declaring them to be unclassified on WH stationary with a date.
It’s not a very high bar and if he didn’t meet it this is going to be bad.
Chief, I don’t think you’re right. As far as I know the president has absolute authority to declassify anything, and he doesn’t have to tell anyone or make any record of it. That’s why it’s impossible for a president to leak classified information; the moment he leaks it it’s no longer classified. Likewise it’s an absolute defense to a charge of leaking to say “the President okayed it”.
Milhouse,
I would agree if I didn’t see the following practical problem.
DJT – Judge, I declared that all declassified before my term was over.
Judge – you got a memorandum to that effect?
DJT – Nah, I was the President and I can don’t have to do that sort of thing.
Judge – so what you are telling me sir is you have no evidence other than your statement as the accused that ‘you didn’t do it’?
That’s not a situation he wants to be in. He’s got to have been smart enough to know that, this isn’t his first rodeo.
I don’t see a problem with that scenario. Sure, it may not be smart for him to put himself in that situation, but if it came up I don’t see how the prosecution could establish beyond reasonable doubt that he’s lying, so the judge would have to presume it to be true, and to instruct the jury to presume it to be true. The burden of proof is on the prosecution, not on the defendant.
“Nah. That’s not correct. If he has x document and that doc is classified then he is subject to the same rules for handling, storage and declassification as everyone else.”
Everyone else.
Like, for example, Hillary.
So what’s the problem?
He’s as free and clear as she is.
There is no formal paperwork he needs to file to declassify any document. He could go on a talk show, mention the information and it’s declassified. The Constitution gives the President the ultimate authority for classification and declassification of information and doesn’t require any specific procedure.
Not the constitution. The constitution doesn’t say anything about classification, because the whole concept didn’t exist until about a century ago. It’s a creation of several statutes, and those all give the president complete authority over it.
Given the Flynn case as one example do you want to base your potential freedom on the hope that the Judge and Jury interpreting the situation in your favor or would you rather have some paperwork with all the I dotted and T crossed as physical evidence that must be rebutted?
Y’all do you but as my favorite 1SG told me ‘if it isn’t written down and recorded it then the presumption is that it didn’t happen’. IOW use both a belt and suspenders when you know you are under scrutiny out of prudence.
Err no, think about it. If a president can claim something is declassified without telling anyone how does anyone know if anything is classified or not. I’m sorry but no that’s doesn’t work on it’s face
Former presidents under law retain their security clearances and are regularly briefed on classified matters.
Subotai Bahadur
Sure but relevant. Having any clearance level even TS code word just means you have been judged worthy to receive the in brief for that, not that you are entitled to it. Not everyone with the clearance actually gets the information from the controlling authority of that information.
I wonder how many briefings he got from Dementia Joe?
In the late 50’s to early 60’s, my dad authored a plan for personnel deployment to install Minuteman missile wings. It was reviewed, edited to incorporate changes and with final approval for document release, it became classified. My dad, having no security clearance at the time, could no longer read or edit the document he authored.
Oh how he laughed at that deft move by company security – as if stamping “SECRET” on it magically erased it from his head. His security clearance came through a few months later.
Ultimately, what the Biden admin is doing if Elias is to be believed, amounts to hanging Trump out to dry for a clerical / custodial error.
And can declassify documents. Which is probably what he did, before he left office.
Read Marc Elias’ tweet in the post. That’s the whole game there. Remember when they were trying to use that seditious acts attack against some lower-level politicians, but it was thrown out? They then went into the federal code to look for more potential disqualifying infractions and found this one. Hope it works as well as the last attempt.
I trust the legal opinion of Marc Elias on anything involving Trump slightly less than gas station sushi.
In what world does a Federal statute override the Constitutional requirements for President?
Someone very high up ordered this, Garland or in Sundowner’s name
Schwab
People can’t admit it, yet.
Biden’s head is up his ass, and he’s drugged into oblivian.
The was Garland’s alone – if it wasn’t, he could have refused to condone this odious, treasonous act, and resigned. But instead, he ordered it.
I’m sure they briefed Biden. His response may have been “more pudding!” but they briefed him.
Everyone working for the Biden crime family is run by the Chinese.
“In our nation’s 246 year history there has never been an individual who is a greater threat to our Republic than Donald Trump.” Dick Cheney
Dick Cheney had advance knowledge. He knew it was coming. He was in on for crying out loud.
Cheney was projecting, wasn’t he.
Biden went full Fascist
It’s as if he’s acting like he didn’t win that 2020 election fairly, huh?
He’s half there. He could be made to say or order anything.
Even when Biden wasn’t half there, he was half there.
Biden is claiming they didn’t tell him beforehand.
I actually believe this. Why would they tell the drooling moron anything.
Now if it were an actual competent President, he’d immediately start firing anybody involved for doing something so public, and so catastrophically stupid and politically damaging WITHOUT asking him first.
It’s the ultimate demonstration of how little the Deep State respects Biden that they didn’t even bother to pretend he was involved.
No, a “White House Official” said this, not Biden. While Biden may not have known, his staff and the people who are actually running this administration certainly did. This is the old Obama line that he didn’t know about the IRS targeting conservatives until he saw it on tv. BS then, BS now.
The finest BS, aged to perfection….
Just remember that even of a Republican is President, the executive branch is still controlled and run by Democrats.
Not after the wipe out in November. The RINO’S got hammered in the primaries we are winning and there’s lot’s of stuff coming down the chute
Remember this comment in November.
Time for “The Purge.”
I think our time has passed
We did nothing as they stole the election in 2020
They noticed
We have done nothing for the Jan 6ers
They noticed
They perp walked Navarro from the airport in chains
We did nothing ( I bought his book..)
They brought charges against Bannon
We did nothing
And here we are
They are going to kill him if he tries to run, they already took out Abe
I already knew the answer, but your clarifications drive the point home.
Me? What does a sick old man do? I truly have no idea, and wish I did.
I am another sick old man, not fit physically to take action. I hope that ther enough people in their prime to fix this.
There’s a lot I could answer to that. That could easily be construed as incitement to violence.
Use your imagination.
No, it couldn’t, not legally. Incitement is speech that is both subjectively intended and objectively likely to whip up its audience’s emotions and cause them to immediately commit a crime. Essentially it robs the audience of their free will and turns them into robots, so the crime the speaker intended them to commit is directly attributable to him, even if they don’t actually commit it.
Speech that merely advocates a crime, and gives the audience reasoned arguments which they can think about calmly, and eventually decide of their own free will to commit the crime, is not incitement, and is 100% protected speech.
It’s hard to write a blog comment that would carry so much emotional impact that a reader is objectively likely to act upon it immediately upon reading it. It’s harder yet to prove that the writer intended that to happen. So I doubt any blog comment could count as incitement.
“They are going to kill him if he tries to run”
This has been my fear and I hope he has robust private security in place rather than the Secret Service. Mr. Trump should announce his 2024 run immediately and vow to abolish the FBI on day one.
The president can’t abolish the FBI. It’s established by statute. But it definitely needs a thorough purge.
So Trump has papers belonging to the National Archives and the FBI raid him. Hillary has classified documents on her private server and the FBI don’t want to know about it.
Am I the only one to see a double standard?
I wonder what Barry “Peace be upon him” may have in his posession. Perhaps the FBI should pay him an unscheduled visit just in case he has broken the law eh? I mean you know, wouldn’t that be a terrible thing.
Well, if precedent is now set. Of course, the left always assumes that everyone acts like them, so Obama gave his docs the infamous “Hillary bleach” treatment.
…. whatever happens, from now until the end of time, every story on Trump will include in addition to impeached TWICE, ‘once had his Florida home raided by the FBI…’
Badges of honor, no less than Nelson Mandella’s persecution and imprisonment.
Careful with that axe, Eugene!
Thems banning words right there.
They’re acting desperate. Expect even worse to come.
They have reason to be desperate, they know that Trump can break up their party.
Talk about poking the bear…..(NOT a Russia reference).
Wowzers. Now they *really* have to prevent him from being elected, because the payback will be epic. And Hillary may end up behind bars this time.
Exactly as predicted.
I said months ago that they were going to arrest Trump and convict him of something. They know what his actual polls look like and they are utterly terrified of him winning in 2024 because they know he’s not going to put up with the RINO bullshot and is going to go on a firing rampage on day 1.
Funny how they waited until the Monday after all the primaries to do this.
What are you talking about? The primary season isn’t over, and won’t be until September.
Also, arresting and convicting him of some obviously BS charge wouldn’t stop him running. He could run from prison, if necessary, and anyone who would have voted for him would still vote for him anyway. Plus more people, who’d be outraged at it. So long as the charge was obvious BS, that is.
Why can’t you make your points without arrogance and condescension? Did your parents drop you on your head? Inquiring minds want to know.
At least you’re not Rags.
Agreed. But the people must be just under a full outrage boil after all the “collusion,” impeachment etc. BS that the left has been shoveling out.
I frankly think they are near the “snapping” point, and this might be the straw that broke the camel’s back.
No idea otherwise, but this can’t end well. They are going to need a bigger pandemic to offset these blatantly fascist actions.
P.S. Was CNN tipped to film this?
The smell of a Bivens action is in the air.
Not impressed Ron!!!
Doesn’t even mention President Trump
By name!
@RonDeSantisFL
The raid of MAL is another escalation in the weaponization of federal agencies against the Regime’s political opponents, while people like Hunter Biden get treated with kid gloves. Now the Regime is getting another 87k IRS agents to wield against its adversaries? Banana Republic.
Doesn’t need to mention Trump. Everyone know who he was talking about. Mentioning the kid glove treatment of Hunter means the media has to report that statement. With some of their readers going “WTF is he talking about? I’ve never heard about anything…”
He should have mentioned Trump by name.
I think mentioning Mar a Lago (MAL) makes the point.
Why? To what end? If he had, wouldn’t you have found some other nit to pick? He did mention Trump by name, but he didn’t refer to him as “President Trump.” Or the great exalted one or whatever. This kind of thing is a HUGE turnoff to normal people who think Trump did great things as president but he’s not the Second Coming.
Listen to yourself some time. It’s REALLY off-putting, even to people who voted for Trump. Twice. Like me.
Was extremely weak response , get real
And Professor did you write this in regards to a tweet saying they are on record wanting a different candidate than Trump in 2024 but now people will stand behind President Trump
“I think alot of people are feeling this way”
Didn’t k ie you weren’t a President Trump supporter, if so.
What?
This is so painfully obvious. Why do “liberals” support this?
In part because much of the Democratic party ar morons or close to that. The party culivates their votes by redistributing our money.
They aren’t liberal, any more. The Democrat Party alienated its voters, and they are eye-bulging furious with Trump out of jealousy, because Liberals flocked to Trump.
Because they think that they’re always going to be the ones in control, and because they know the RINOs under ‘leadership’ like Bitch McConnell will never, EVER do it to them.
Because all the true liberals have been eaten by the socialists. And worse.
Publish the search warrant. Let’s see what judge signed off on it, and with what evidence.
https://www.breitbart.com/law-and-order/2022/08/09/report-magistrate-bruce-reinhart-represented-jeffrey-epstein-personnel-approved-fbi-raid-mar-a-lago/
He is not even a high-level judge. This is my shocked face.
Why does this feel, look, smell, taste and sound like a distraction? While everyone is focused on this issue now, what is going on in the background that we will find out about later on? A smokescreen was just deployed with Trump at the center. Something is up. I’m not discounting the seriousness of this act, but something is up.
It’s out in the open: they’re going to break us with inflation, and they’re going to oppress us with the IRS.
Yes, the Internal Revenue Service did buy nearly $700K in ammunition in early 2022:
https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/government-verify/internal-revenue-service-did-buy-nearly-700k-in-ammunition/536-0ce9f538-a372-4c26-8013-1ab4e571578c
Next year, they’re going to starve us.
Farmers Issue Huge Warning To All Americans:
https://dailycaller.com/2022/06/17/farmers-issue-huge-warning-all-americans/
Where’s Cocaine Mitch? Ted Cruz? Marco Rubio? Rand Paul? They should have been out screaming immediately after the news broke
If they are not screaming like ruptured eagles by tomorrow morning, we know which side they are on.
Subotai Bahadur
Why wait until tomorrow morning? They need speech writers, polls?
It s BS and extremely weak
Kind of looks like they were in on it or scared shitless , neither one attractive
For sure the turtle knew about it
I am not cutting them slack, just accounting for the fact that they had to figure out what to say, maybe talk to each other to coordinate a response, and get the media there. Logistics and planning. And to be honest, between senility and being unused to saying anything against the Left, maybe they would have needed speechwriters.
In any case, it has been awful quiet from those who claim to lead the opposition. Which means they are a kept opposition working for the enemy.
Subotai Bahadur
Hey Gov DeSantis, this is the way you do it!
Kristi Noem
@KristiNoem
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Governor candidate, SD
The FBI raid on President Trump’s home is an unprecedented political weaponization of the Justice Department. They’ve been after President Trump as a candidate, as President, and now as a former President. Using the criminal justice system in this manner is un-American.
7:04
You want Noem over DeSantis? Nope. She’s trying to salvage her credibility by sucking up and posturing. One flipping tweet means jack squat.
Trust me DeSantis will be asked about this BS for months and he will be consistent in his answers that this is BS.
No I don’t want Noem over DeSantis but DeSantis really really blew it with his milk toast tweet
Give it a rest for fucks sakes. Go vote for Noem and see how that works out for you.
There are Republican primaries tomorrow. If you’re in one of the states- show up and vote for Trump endorsed candidate.
This.
Trump even jumped into the CT senate race against “Da Nam Dick,”, i.e., Richard Blumenthal.
If you’re in CT, please consider voting today in the GOP primary for Leora Levy for U.S. Senate, the candidate Trump endorsed.
I’m a little disturbed by Trump’s response to this.
I’m sure the raid is political BS, and illegitimate. But supposing the FBI really does have probable cause to believe that a search of someone’s premises will yield evidence of a crime, and it manages to convince a judge of this so he issues a warrant, the fact that the person is a former president, or a candidate for the presidency, should make no difference at all. We are not a monarchy. And even when we were one, the legacy of the English Civil War was that the king is subject to the law just like everyone else. So there should be no objection to the FBI executing a validly issued warrant at Trump’s home.
Of course that is all premised on the warrant being validly issued, based on genuine probable cause. I don’t believe that for a second. The FBI has no credibility whatsoever, especially when it comes to this issue. But if it were then Trump’s objections would be invalid, which means they’re invalid now too.
Jesus, are you real?
Of course I’m for real. You, on the other hand, have absolutely no regard for the truth at all. You don’t care whether something is true, and you don’t care whether something is right or wrong. You have no morals, no ethics, and no intelligence. That makes you just as evil as the Democrats.
I want to see the warrant, and a proper fisking of it by a lawyer I trust, before I’m going to make a comment. I have my *suspicions* of course, and any search warrant served on a past President of the US is going to need absolute bulletproof evidence before any sane judge should approve it, but we’ve seen a lot of judges go right over the far left side of the boat in the last few years.
I suspect the warrant wouldn’t withstand a stiff breeze. My point is not about the circumstances of this raid, but about Trump’s response. He seems to be saying that the mere fact that he was once president, and/or that he might be president again, should immunize him from even a solid warrant. And that’s just wrong. If there’s a warrant issued upon genuine probable cause, the police can even search the White House.
Given the track record of the warrant issuers on matters of “Russian collusion,” the hands off policies for Hunter and Hillary, et cetera,, I think we have good cause to be highly skeptical of the validity of this raid. Stone, Trump’s lawyer and so on.
The truth has been pretty worked over by the left, and they will manufacture “truth” as needed.
Too much banana and not enough republic.
Of course. I never suggested otherwise. We should assume this warrant will not withstand any kind of scrutiny and the raid was entirely political. But Trump’s response concerns me. He seems to think he should be immune to any warrant or investigation, simply because of who he is. And no decent person can agree with that.
He made his point IMO….for once, his point is slightly understated than grossly overstated. Now, we wait.
“supposing the FBI really does have probable cause to believe that a search of someone’s premises will yield evidence of a crime, and it manages to convince a judge of this so he issues a warrant, the fact that the person is a former president, or a candidate for the presidency, should make no difference at all.”
Except, of course, if he is a Democrat. Then it makes ALL the difference.
Or the son of a Democrat pResident. How many years did the FBI have Hunter’s laptop and fail to find any sort of probably crime?
Have you ever considered that it doesn’t provide evidence of a crime lol
Oh your a little disturbed by Trumps response?
“So there should be no objection to the FBI executing a validly issued warrant at Trump’s home.”
JUST DO AS YOU ARE TOLD KAREN!!! IF YOU HAVENT DONE ANYTHING WRONG YOU HAVE NO FEAR OF THE FBI RAIDING YOUR HOUSE BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR FROM DOING NOTHING WRONG!!
Make your fucking mind up Millhouse. I’m more outraged by those in leadership positions saying fucking NOTHING than I am about a former President shouting from the roof tops how the banana republic behaviour of a politicised DoJ!
I really couldnt give a flying fuck about whether this was kosher or not and whether they had reason to do this or not. This should NEVER have happened in the first place! There seems to be an awful lot of norms that previous Presidents never had to deal with that have been broken just because Trump! Thats what gets on my tits and Id be a little worried if that also doesnt get on your tits!
Try to restrain yourself.
Yes, please.
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Leadership has publicly warned Merrick Garland over this and issues demands that no documents be destroyed.
Issuing demands no documents be destroyed means you consider this not just an abuse but criminality and that you are coming for them when you get the chance.
That is big.
It’s talk. I’ll reserve judgment until I see action, and the results of said action.
Talk is all we are capable of right now we don’t just not control the presidency we don’t control congress either. To have any chance we need to control both.
…as big as the—Durham Report? This isn’t big; this is laughable, sir.
Who believes there is anything valid about this warrant? Look at all the other shit they have pulled.
I never suggested there was anything valid about this warrant. But Trump claimed to be immune even from a valid warrant, and that can’t be allowed to go by without protest.
This is the FBI
https://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/29/politics/aby-rayyan-fbi-terror-sting-pizza-man/index.html
I wouldn’t be concerned that Trump loses a few declensions (and yes raiding your political opponents is a hallmark of a banana republic).
Either there are unauthorized /classified docs or not. All DJT needs to produce is a list of the docs and the date he declassified them and his signature; preferably with witnesses attesting to those actions prior to Biden being sworn in. Seems pretty easy to stop this in its tracks.
A little planning and prudence would see a copy of that list in other places. Surely DJT did all that, knowing how hard they were gunning for him in the wake of Jan 6? His advisors and family wouldn’t simply allow him to make such an arrogant mistake knowing how it would look and be used against him if he did, would they?
No way a man who wants to be elected President again makes a stupid mistake based in arrogance. Even DJT, who is pretty arrogant, wouldn’t be this ballsy?
Kind of like they did to the gop governor wannabes in Michigan. Dems aren’t going to give up their power regardless of the election.
Gee whiz. Unlike Watergate, the authorities had a search warrant approved by a judge after showing probable cause.
Because the FBI has a great track record when it comes to requesting warrants right?
mailman: Because the FBI has a great track record when it comes to requesting warrants right?
While all human endeavors are subject to fault, if served a warrant by the FBI, you should probably take it seriously. Trump was apparently cavalier with classified material and destroyed government documents during his term in office. Furthermore, reports are that the FBI knew what they were looking for. If so, that could constitute probable cause.
Regardless, a judge signed off on the warrant, and the warrant will eventually be made public. That’s not Watergate.
I would guess that there was far more probably cause in the Watergate break in than this fascist farce.
“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.–Such has been the patient sufferance…”
We are there. This is why The Founders drafted 2A. The Dem’s will go down…they just don’t know it yet. This will get nasty ugly.
Does this mean we are going to have to look at more angry, screaming “thumbs” protesting in front of (insert public building or Republican domicile here)?
Reading comments and thinking…
“Why was I shadow-banned?”
Who was the federal POS judge who signed this search warrant. Find him/her and make his life hell!
My guess would be the same one running the J6 shit show.
So we act like they do?
There are plenty of issues before the unprecedented FBI action can be evaluated but will the questions be answered?
Is it true that the FBI removed the 15 cartons without determining if the contents were covered by the warrant? Was the warrant so board that the FBI could take what it wanted?
Is it true that the GSA packed those boxes, and determined that they would go with Trump rather than the archives? Is it true that the GSA has had access to those cartons when at Mira A Lago? What was the on-going process if any to determine whether those documents were appropriately with Trump or belonged in the archives, as some have reported?
What was contained in the application for a warrant? What was in the warrant signed by a Magistrate Judge?
Both the application and the warrant should be made public without any delay.
It’s Civil War 2.0, more or less, and sooner or later.
In any event, what we knew as the USA, say, in its last robust, vibrant version under President Reagan, is over; in memoriam; historic and done. Whatever sociopolitical fabric materializes within the form our constitutional republic takes in the future will never again represent a true nation, one “under God, with liberty and justice for, thus uniting, all,” etc.
It truly pains me to foresee this and to say it, but I need to be realistic above all else. I hope I’m wrong, of course, and all will be well; so, I pray, however, Amen.
Yet, it seems, day after day during these “dark times,” the Lefties will never again allow themselves to be governed outside of absolute, total, final power, whose possession and abuse are their reasons to wake up every morning and “lead,” as some on our side, maybe too many, fancy they be rather so civil after the upcoming midterms. Such wishful thinking, such constitution-directed, rule-of-law-led governance, so fancied by current Republican officeholders and many of their followers, is either delusional or deceptive, or both.
A renewed civil war awaits, and no could dread that more than I could; and once again — from Tammany Hall to Fort Sumter, from slavery to Jim Crow and the KKK, and from keeping arms out of the hands of the Southern black man, made free and equal via constitutional amendments, but no matter, to point out a few — the Democrats prove repeatedly, incessantly, they are no friend of liberty, of justice, of equal opportunity and equality under law, and especially the very idea itself underlying the United States of America — that we are one out of many, free and brave.
God help us all.
I’d bet dollars to donuts that so-called Republicans will toss around some ‘investigation-if-we-win’ rhetoric and perhaps secure the services of Durham to write another something or other…
That is exactly what Kevin McCarthy said. Maybe a little less forceful as he said that they would “exercise oversight”. Can’t you see the totalitarians trembling in fear?
Subotai Bahadur
Lkd, Ldd, ready and waiting for the form -up.
The previous FBI Director said Hillary did the same thing that Trump is accused of, yet there have been no raid on Hillary’s home.
If there is not equal justice under the law then there is no justice.
Didn’t need to do a raid, she gave access to the FBI was investigated and that was that. It’s not like she was flushing records down the toilet and eating them or indeed hanging onto records after finishing in office.
Probable Cause for the Warrant…..
I bet it is the NYT article with the fake toilet bowl photo of the fake Trump Notes. Anonymous of course. So ludicrous they sealed the affidavit. The evidence is of course blatant faked hearsay because it is not in Trumps handwriting. This would not surprise me a bit if it was.
A remedy for lopsided political weaponization of a federal court district….A new congress could simply close the DC District Court and the Southern District in New York. Eliminate them entirely. Congress can also abolish the FBI and CIA if they so choose. In the end it is up to the people that are elected to Congress.
Reading this site is hilarious. Always entertaining. The total lack of substance is quite impressive.
The fact is when holding Trump to account you don’t like it even when presented with vast amounts of evidence. So much for believing in law and order, one rule for your side eh.
U are glowing bright.