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Here Comes the ‘DeSantis is Worse Than Trump’ Narrative

Here Comes the ‘DeSantis is Worse Than Trump’ Narrative

“DeSantis presents an even clearer present and future danger than Trump does”

It’s finally here. We all knew this moment would arrive, it was just a matter of time. The same people who compared Trump to Hitler and called him a threat to democracy, will now tell us that Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is even worse than Trump.

It won’t matter if DeSantis runs for president in 2024 or 2028, this will be something you’ll hear repeatedly.

Gabriel Hays of FOX News made the catch:

NBC News column: DeSantis is a ‘clearer danger than Trump,’ pushing ‘thought control’ like ‘Nazi Germany’

An NBC News opinion column asserted Wednesday that Gov. Ron DeSantis’ efforts to ban CRT and protect young children from being taught about gender and sexuality in inappropriate ways in public schools, represents “thought control that has happened” in “Nazi Germany” or “today’s China.”

Written by former federal prosecutor Dennis Aftergut, the opinion piece, titled “Ron DeSantis has taken Trump’s playbook — and made it much more dangerous,” discussed how the Florida Republican has turned Trump’s “divisive talk into real (and really harmful) action” that mirrors action done in “totalitarian societies.”

Aftergut’s reasoning included a variety of DeSantis’ recent policy decisions including the enactment of the Parental Rights in Education Bill, but he was really focused on the governor’s latest initiative, which Aftergut described as, “censoring math books.”

Of course, what liberal analysis of a Republican politician would be complete without a comparison to Hitler and the Nazis?

Here’s a passage from the NBC column by Dennis Aftergut:

Certainly, what’s happening now in Florida looks a lot like the thought control that has happened in totalitarian societies. Whether in the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany or today’s China, the banning of books is a central strategy for strongmen. DeSantis has no qualms using that playbook if he thinks it will benefit him politically.

More and more, DeSantis looks like Donald Trump’s chief rival for the 2024 presidential nomination. Trump has a far bigger Republican audience — for now. But according to Frank Luntz, a veteran GOP pollster, Trump’s popularity may have already peaked.

Meanwhile, DeSantis’ political star is on the rise. His favorables among independents are above 60 percent, according to a March 25 McLaughlin & Associates’ poll. The conservative National Review’s editor, Rich Lowry, has an explanation: DeSantis comes “without the distracting obsessions of the former president.”

Keep that in mind as you consider areas where DeSantis presents an even clearer present and future danger than Trump does.

And there it is.

You can see this taking shape on Twitter.

It’s as predictable as the sun rising in the east.


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I’ll bet the staff at far-left CNN are secretly praying that either Trump or DeSantis gets elected President.

That’s probably the only way to keep CNN from going bankrupt. They only got decent ratings when they could base their reporting on all-Trump, all-hatred pseudonews that was eaten up by the Trump haters with TDS.

Steven Brizel | April 24, 2022 at 10:28 am

Dr Santis would be a great candidate and president He is strong on all of the issues of the Trump agenda without Trumps tweets and is a fearless opponent of the woke agenda Big Media and Big Tech

    JohnSmith100 in reply to Steven Brizel. | April 24, 2022 at 11:36 am

    I greatly enjoyed Trump’s tweets and the way they led libs and Marxists around by their noses. The more they attack Desantis, the more I like his style.

    gonzotx in reply to Steven Brizel. | April 24, 2022 at 11:40 am

    Your Sony washy we wouldn’t have DeSantis if not for the Lion

    But DeSantis will NOT win if he falls into the trap of fighting TRUMP! As it is, he is almost certainly a sho0-in for 2028 and if he doesn’t succumb to the siren’s call of opposing Trump for the 2024 nomination, together they crush the Uniparty in the next 2 1/2 years. Trump may then just declare victory and endorse DeSantis in 2024. That would be the optimum outcome. You are completely blind about Trump’s value. He is THE key component to winning for real this year, 2024 and beyond. Kick him out for his “tweets” (toughen up will you?) or whatever it is that is more offensive to you than the Nazis we are fighting, we lose everything and will have once again snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. You are a big part of the problem.

    That is why the GOP is known as “the Stupid Party”. They are only as stupid as people who keep voting for them.

      Optimum outcome is Trump/DeSantis 2024 and DeSatis/Player to be named later 2028.

        As you can see we still have plenty of squishes commenting on these threads. Trump and DeSantis represent 12 years in the White House. But they hate Trump so much, they would rather risk having DeSantis and Trump battle it out for 2024 and bitterly dividing the party again. If the squishes knock Trump out of the game, there is nothing protecting DeSantis. They need each other. They are the one-two punch that is driving everything the steamroller into November this year.

        And Trump can clear the decks of squishes going into 2024 while DeSantis wins over governors and other state Republicans around what he is accomplishing in FL. Nope. Squishes won’t have any of that. Those tweets cancel all of the corruption of the Uniparty. Better to lose with someone who is running prematurely while having alienated his only ticket to the White House, Trump and his vast army of voters. We will not be in a good mood if DeSantis turns into a back-stabber.

        SophieA in reply to Eagle1. | April 26, 2022 at 6:13 pm

        I think Vice-President is not the most effective job for DeSantis unless political circumstances in Florida change.

      Mercyneal in reply to Pasadena Phil. | April 24, 2022 at 5:10 pm

      He’s a shoo-in for 2024

    “without Trumps tweets”

    There was never a tweet that any real American had any problem with.

      henrybowman in reply to Barry. | April 25, 2022 at 12:59 pm

      Don’t understand all the downticks here. Every tweet storm I saw was nothing but manufactured Marxist outrage.

      RCT64 in reply to Barry. | April 27, 2022 at 9:15 am

      I’m a “real American” and a Republican since I can remember (mid-70’s). First vote for president was Reagan in ’84. Retired military.

      I had a problem with the tweets. So did a lot of other people on both sides of the aisle. To get things done, a president shouldn’t alienate a large portion of the electorate (which is largely why Trump lost in ’20). Unless, of course, we want our presidents to rule instead of govern, in which case have at it, I suppose. No room to complain when the Dems do it, though.

        I see it another way: in ‘tweeting’ (or ‘Musking’, as it might become known), Trump solidified his base and ‘alienated’ the already alienated.

        Trump was one of a kind, an incredible original, and an anti-swamp bulldozer on the scale of George Washington.

        However, his greatest mistakes were Jeff Sessions and William Barr: if not for both these rats, our nation would not be in the peril it is today.

    taurus the judge in reply to Steven Brizel. | April 25, 2022 at 10:24 am

    Tell me exactly, what was wrong with Trump’s tweets?

      JohnSmith100 in reply to taurus the judge. | April 27, 2022 at 8:19 am

      Nothing was wrong, they hurt feelings of, and pissed off the right people. The truth is that Some people really deserve those tweets, and that is why they were mad. It is important that they are mad and constantly are told no one gives a shit about their mads or feelings.

      Well, for “owning the libs”, they were great, but they were usually counterproductive to, you know, actually governing.

That this actually means is that De Santis is, or will be, better than Trump.

Normalization, tolerance, or rejection.

While transgender conversion therapy through surgical, medical, and psychiatric (e.g. inculcation of captive People and Posterity in schools, workplaces) may be politically congruent (“=”), it is an evolutionary awkward avenue. Lose your Pro-Choice “ethical” religion. #HateLovesAbortion

Regarding DeSantis “censoring math books”. If there is anything to ‘censor’ in a math book then it isn’t a math book. Which is precisely why it isn’t approved for use in Florida classrooms.

As to whether DeSantis is more of a threat to the Dems in 2024 than Trump, I absolutely agree that he is and for the same reason the Aftergut column describes. I had hoped he’d stay under their radar a bit longer but OK, fights on.

    jagibbons in reply to Gosport. | April 25, 2022 at 8:29 am

    Just like it’s hard to find censorship more ridiculous than banning Dr. Seuss or To Kill a Mockingbird. As the saying goes, if the Left didn’t have double standards, they wouldn’t have any standards at all.

      henrybowman in reply to jagibbons. | April 25, 2022 at 1:01 pm

      And the left just learned a hard lesson about the downside of censorship.

      Given Disney’s censorship of “Song of The South” as “racist,” they apparently raised a dumber generation of employees and administrators who never learned the lesson about why you don’t kick the Tar Baby.

MSNBC is similar to CNN. I’ve been an unwilling recipient of a tremendous volume of sewage from this outlet over the last few days. My father thinks that Republicans have ideas and values that are “different from Americans.”

He got the message just fine. It’s bullshit, of course. His values, for example, are very much the same as those of the outraged parents that support the Florida governor.

However, the presentation on MSNBC is long on adverbs and adjectives, and very short on information. For example, my Dad has not one clue about what the objection is to CRT and the objectionable parts of the sex education proposed for first graders. Nor does he know that the law applies to third grade and younger.

He is more skeptical of the coverage of the war in Ukraine due to his life experience in the US military. It’s easier for him to spot the lies and luridly one-sided spin.

    gonzotx in reply to Valerie. | April 24, 2022 at 11:44 am

    Dang, you may need to educate your father
    It’s always sad to me to see military so left

    JohnSmith100 in reply to Valerie. | April 24, 2022 at 11:53 am

    I had a similar problem with my recently deceased father, his values were not in line with the Dems, but he would not accept that The Democrats no longer deserved support. When I finally got him to ditch MSNBC, he went to CNN. Today’s media is very much like what Orwell described in his books.

    audax in reply to Valerie. | April 25, 2022 at 3:39 am

    Just lay it out for Dear Old Dad Valerie. The schools want to teach your little KINDERGARTNER boys how to be c@ck sucking rump rangers and God knows what they want to teach your little 5 year old girls!

Yes indeed the usual d/prog suspects and their legacy media allies are definitely moving in lockstep in fear of DeSantis. Not because of tweets or rhetoric they find offensive but because of his ability to engineer victories. He has been successful because he doesn’t waste time or energy on fringe issues but instead identifies problems and creates a legislative coalition, backed by public support, to pass legislative solutions.

His ability to read the room of the body politic and deliver legislative victories while pushing back hard v false claims and deceptive attempts to frame his policies by opposition media and d/prog in general is impressive. The funny part is that Bama has adopted most of the same policy agenda and enacted it into law.

It’s now a felony in Bama for a physician to assist ‘transition’ for minors, in schools biological sex determines which restroom one uses and we exceeded Fla by banning sex ed/gender discussions in classrooms from K-5. This gets very little attention outside the State because Gov Ivey isn’t a national figure.

    natdj in reply to CommoChief. | April 24, 2022 at 10:57 am

    We here in Florida who are involved in politics here recognize that. Alabama and Oklahoma and Nebraska, etc. have been great advancing conservative causes. Here in Florida we still don’t have Open nor Constitutional carry despite heavy GOP Representation in the legislature. There are deficiencies here but it is not all on DeSantis but the infighting and the RINO Representative that we have still.

      NavyMustang in reply to natdj. | April 24, 2022 at 11:27 am

      I’d still live in the Panhandle if it wasn’t for the damn humidity! You are ver lucky to have him as your governor.

      CommoChief in reply to natdj. | April 24, 2022 at 11:34 am

      I wasn’t attempting to throw shade at FL, just pointing out the focus from d/prog and legacy media is centered not on the policies themselves but on the most effective messenger of the policies; DeSantis.

      We finally got constitutional carry passed and signed into law this year; effective next year. It was an uphill struggle v entrenched opposition from some LEO orgs aligned with d/prog and r who were nervous about offending suburban women. It was a long fight even in a largely red State but the persistence of grassroots people eventually got it done. Y’all can do it as well but you have to reach across the political spectrum to gain non traditional allies to do so.

        That’s why it is important for DeSantis to be re-elected governor. He and Trump have dislodged the liberal stranglehold of the squishes off of their moorings and with DeSantis hanging around for another term under a strong Trump presidency, Florida will be ensconced as a red state. Were he to take on Trump, win the nomination in a McConnell rigged primary, and then lose the general in 2024, his political career would probably be over. Then we’re back to square one.

        He’s only 43 years old. Let’s not blow it. For now, it’s Trump and luckily, DeSantis is smart enough (so far) to ride his coattails while becoming a major national figure. It’s not yet time for him and we shouldn’t be taking our focus on what they are accomplishing as a dynamic tandem. They are building a rapidly growing base of followers to repopulate the Republican party. The last thing we need is a dumb war between DeSantis and Trump.

        #meantweets24! MAGA!!!

          CommoChief in reply to Pasadena Phil. | April 24, 2022 at 1:56 pm

          DeSantis doesn’t appear to be in any danger of not being re-elected this fall. In fact he has galvanized support so that now there are more r registered than d/prog with that registration advantage climbing daily. People don’t change party affiliation unless they plan on voting.

          It’s DeSantis and r primary voters who decide if its ‘his time’. I would be happy to support either as the eventual r nominee as would most Republican populists. This movement doesn’t belong solely to DJT and when you keep insisting that only DJT can or should be that eventual nominee it starts to sound like a lecture.

          DJT was and remains an effective standard bearer. I have nothing but respect for his accomplishments but he isn’t essential for electoral success. To claim otherwise is to suggest that the populist right won’t win elections beyond 2024.

          We have a party primary system. Let’s allow the process to play out in 2024 and pledge to support whomever is the nominee. I am very opposed to your desire to simply anoint any particular candidate for the nomination. DJT doesn’t fear a potential battle for the nomination because he knows that iron will sharpen iron and the eventual nominee will be stronger for that battle. I don’t know why you fear a contested nomination.

          @commochief: I am NOT anointing Trump for 2024. I am stating the obvious that he is THE lightening rod for both the Dems and the squishes for a good reason: he is the defacto party leader who has accomplished more that all of the other Republicans combined. He deserves our support while he is leading the charge and being incredibly effective.

          The Uniparty had to steal the 2020 election (with the full support of McConnell and his ilk) so to simply go squishy at this point is insane. We shouldn’t even be talking about DeSantis challenging Trump for the nomination. But that is EXACTLY what is going on and the Republicans are front and center on this effort. And it’s working. Why? Too many among us are soft in the head.

          Why do we always step up to the plate to defend McConnell and McCarthy when they are under attack? Let them Dems clear the decks for us! We have a better story to tell with our two-pronged attack.

          Let Trump go as far as he wants. We need him AND DeSantis. If you still don’t understand how vulnerable DeSantis would be without Trump at his back, you are really naive. Trump needs DeSantis NOW! Together they can help the Dems wreck the Republican half of the Uniparty. The sooner that happens, the stronger DeSantis will be as a candidate and I believe Trump would step asside.

          If that sounds like a lecture, then get used to it. So long as you insist on misstating what I keep saying repeatedly find it offending, that’s on you. Trump is THE ONLY ONE who has the financial independence and personal relentlessness to win this. Does it not follow that if he was suddenly chased out of the running by DeSantis, then we would be back to trusting candidates who have no choice but to suck up to the money? Hello? Give me an alternative. So far, “open-mindedness” is pretty weak.

          CommoChief in reply to Pasadena Phil. | April 24, 2022 at 7:07 pm


          DeSantis just demonstrated he can force the squishy r legislators to pass his agenda items; his redistricting map v the squishy surrender map. In the same special session he got Disney’s special status revoked.

          That’s in addition to the regular session accomplishments that beat back the grooming behavior in K-3. Why would you think any of those accomplishments are somehow squishy or that people would believe they were?

          The populist right began asserting itself in the r party before DJT and will continue after DJT. No one in the populist camp is rejecting Trump. The uniparty squish types are doing it and frankly your antics are pushing people in their direction. IMO, you are doing more to damage the prospects of DJT than to help them.

        natdj in reply to CommoChief. | April 24, 2022 at 1:03 pm

        What happened in Alabama over Constitutional Carry is happening here in Florida. LEO is nervous and way too many fake pro gun Republicans in the legislature. I am hearing that in the next Special Session in May for Homeowners Insurance there will be other issues to be discussed and Constitutional carry may be one of them. As for offending suburban women, this is less of an issue as Florida becomes more Republican in registration. Also, the fasted growing demographics in first time Gun buyers are African Americans and Hispanics. By not only going with Constitutional carry but Open carry would be welcomed. As of now, we have neither and the Republican legislature is to blame for this here in Florida.

          CommoChief in reply to natdj. | April 24, 2022 at 1:38 pm

          The issue with suburban women who are in general less MAGA than men is that on a few issues they tend to follow emotion rather than logic and facts On gun issues, policing, sentencing criminals and use of US military abroad to ‘do something’ among others they fall prey to the siren call to ‘do something’ even when that ‘something’ is either nebulous or flatly counter productive.

          Again that’s a generalization and certainly not all women fall for this crap but polls show a correlation between support those kinds of policies among women with a BA/BS and more so as level of ed increases. These women vote and the Karen’s of social media so their influence is disproportionate in scaring the r who represent the suburban districts.

          A broad multi ethnic and cross party coalition in Bama got constitutional carry enacted and I suspect that’s what it will take to replicate it anywhere else. In essence you need to form a temporary alliance of the willing on this single issue and maintain pressure, eating the apple one bite at a time to achieve passage. The Sheriff’s were the key targets, IMO. Support only those candidates running for Sheriff who will pledge support for constitutional carry no matter anything else. Once you have a majority of the Sheriffs they can blunt big city LEO Chiefs who tend to be the most opposed. My advice for what it’s worth.

          randian in reply to natdj. | April 24, 2022 at 5:26 pm

          The problem with con-carry in FL is the RINOs in the legislature are beholden to The Rodent, and demand crap like giving no-gun signs the force of law in return for it. That’s obviously unacceptable, so we won’t get con-carry. The same goes for, say, removing some of the numerous dumb no-carry zones, like airport terminals and sporting events.

          henrybowman in reply to natdj. | April 25, 2022 at 1:09 pm

          And this has always been a source of amazement to me, given that Florida was one of the first shall issue states, even to non-residents and total out of staters. Massachusetts residents who couldn’t get a may issue license of their own (Or could, but it was worthless outside the state because Massachusetts doesn’t offer reciprocity to anybody) would apply for a Florida license, which was good not only in Florida but a number of other states up and down the East Coast and elsewhere.

        natdj in reply to CommoChief. | April 24, 2022 at 2:07 pm

        Certainly suburban women may be an issue concerning gun ownership but I believe we as a nation are seeing (correctly) our cities as unsafe (which they are) and the suburbs are now open to increasing crime. You would think with a large veteran population and a very high number of concealed weapon holders Open and Constitutional carry would fly through the Republican controlled legislature. Until the elected Sheriff’s and police chiefs get on board this is another pipe dream here. My suspicion is that DeSantis may just “pull the trigger” (pardon the pun) and demand that at least Constitutional carry becomes part of our Florida Statutes.

        As for you in Alabama, maybe you can send some real and authentic Conservative office holders to hold the hand of our leaders in the Florida Legislature.

          CommoChief in reply to natdj. | April 24, 2022 at 2:14 pm

          Y’all have to generate the political will to get it done. IMO the last thing you need is some jabroni from another State parachuting into FL to embarrass your politicians and political movers and shakers. My advice is concentrate on the Sheriff’s one election at a time to remove those opposed to the 2nd amendment.

          henrybowman in reply to natdj. | April 25, 2022 at 1:14 pm

          In response to your observation about veterans, suburban crime, and the legislature, I think all you’re seeing there is a legislative lag factor. It always takes a while for good citizens to get riled up enough about new bad practices to begin to oppose them effectively, and it always takes a legislature a cycle or two to realize how riled up the good citizens are, and to understand that the old way of doing business as usual is no longer advantageous. Some of them never do realize it, and that adds to the lag as they have to be sent packing.

Colonel Travis | April 24, 2022 at 10:36 am

Trump wasn’t a nazi this early in the game. He was sometimes welcomed before the primaries were over.

I want DeSantis to run.

Trump did his job. He prevented the Harridan from becoming president. He kicked the door in and exposed the uni-party, deep state, and ruling cathedral for who they are and to what extreme they will go to maintain power. Being decided in America now is the ultimate foundational question, who rules? Democracy descends into oligharchy, anarchy and then dictatorship.

As a Floridian who is involved in local politics there are a few things that many don’t know:

1. Ron is running for re-election this year as governor and running for president would ONLY be considered in 2024 if Trump does not run and if Casey (who had breast cancer) is healthy.
2. Talking with voters here regardless of political party want DeSantis to run for governor and finish 8 years as governor.
3. DeSantis is actually taking a page out of the Rick Scott Playbook. That is to take a position and move an agenda popular with Floridians yet knowing the enemy of the people (the media) will fight like hell to oppose him. As a result, an issue that would gather very little interest becomes headline news and voters become educated and solidly behind the governor.
4. There is still a fight here as to who will control the RPOF (Republican Party of Florida). Is it the Bush wing, the Rubio wing or the Trump wing? This fight continues and DeSantis has overcome this so far.

    Beautifully said. If we allow the Uniparty to take down Trump, and blow it this year, there will be no President DeSantis. Without Trump, DeSantis will have the same problem Ted Cruz over funding and begging for money at the California Club in L.A. (aka selling your soul to the devil). Trump is immune from this and DeSantis absolutely needs Trump to have his back. If the steamroller achieves what needs to be achieved over the next 2 years, Trump may just declare victory and endorse DeSantis.

    It just disgusts me that so many “effeminate conservatives” don’t get the power of Trump’s “mean” tweets. Tells me they are completely disconnected and trapped in a bubble.

    Mercyneal in reply to natdj. | April 24, 2022 at 5:11 pm

    He will run.

Stolen comment from another board
“Imagine how awkward it’s going to be when Disney has to put DeSantis in the Hall of Presidents.”

They will clearly make him look bizarre and hide him in the back, kind of like Trump

Of course he’s worse than Trump. He’s young, dynamic, and actually believes what he says. He has no decades-long history as a liberal Democrat to shed. And he’s the future, not the past. So it’s a foregone conclusion that whatever bad they see in Trump they will see worse in DeSantis. They are afraid of him, even more than they are afraid of Trump. And their condemnation is yet another reason to support him.

    henrybowman in reply to Milhouse. | April 24, 2022 at 12:35 pm

    The supreme irony is how they bitch and moan — on Twitter — about DeSantis pushing thought control.

    IMO, with one exception, 2024 is an election for the next generation, not those in their 70’s. The exception is if the 2020 election were to become widely accepted as stolen from DJT – as in the movie coming out, “2000 Mules”, were to be a hot ticket item, which I doubt. The MSM and big-tech coverage suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop info before the election is a step in the right direction, but not enough.

    As Millhouse notes, the only reason the Dems are saying DeSantis is worse than Trump is because they know he would be a stronger candidate. IMO that is because the Biden record is so horrible that the only Rep candidate that would inspire Dem turnout is DJT. TDS is an incurable disease.

    Trump has nothing to ‘shed’. He has an AMAZING record as president. NO politician in the United States has that record.

DeSantis is, above all, a smart politician. Certainly smart enough to avoid a clash with Trump. No need for that. He would certainly be an ideal VP candidate.

    henrybowman in reply to swampdave. | April 24, 2022 at 12:36 pm

    Or, if it wasn’t for Trump’s ego, DeSantis could pull what sneaky Joe did with Kamala, and have Trump as his VP.
    Screw with the bull, get the horns.

    jakebizlaw in reply to swampdave. | April 24, 2022 at 12:40 pm

    I can’t see DeSantis playing second fiddle; he’s simply too strong and directed. Please, Trump, step back and let the strong horse take the lead.

    DSHornet in reply to swampdave. | April 24, 2022 at 5:24 pm

    An excellent idea! Put Trump back in office with DeSantis as VP and call it insurance against impeachment. As terrified as the Dimocrats are with Trump, they surely don’t want him to be replaced by DeSantis. During the administration, DeSantis is President-In-Waiting, training for a run for the White House in 2018.

    The Dimocrats have Harris as impeachment insurance for for Joe. Use their own transparent tactic against them. There won’t be enough Tide in the country to wash the stains out of their drawers. Should be fun to watch.

      DSHornet in reply to DSHornet. | April 24, 2022 at 5:27 pm

      Oops – 2018=2028. The fingers aren’t as limber as they once were.

      Barry in reply to DSHornet. | April 24, 2022 at 10:47 pm

      “Put Trump back in office with DeSantis as VP ”

      Both are Florida residents. Not possible. Constitution.

        Milhouse in reply to Barry. | April 25, 2022 at 2:30 am

        It’s possible. Just not a good idea. If they came from a small state it would be an OK idea. Unless the result were extremely close, they could afford to have that state’s electors vote for only one of the two party candidates, and still have each get a majority. But not in a state the size of Florida; the risk is just too great.

        However all it would take would be for one of them to move states before the electoral college voted.

          malclave in reply to Milhouse. | April 25, 2022 at 8:11 pm

          Depending on Florida’s laws about electors, they might be able to split the electors halfway. And if they fail to get a majority, all is still not lost, depending on the House and Senate.

          But yeah, it is a risk.

          This discussion is moot, though, because DeSantis is not going to run against Trump, and he’s far too smart to run as second fiddle to Trump. If Trump wants to run in 2024, the floor, as things stand right now, is his. If he chooses not to run, then DeSantis is the obvious (and to my mind only) candidate for the GOP to run.

          You know what is a risk and that would definitely screw up all calculations to this point is if the Dems wise up and run Manchin in 2024. He’d beat Trump in a landslide. Happily, he’s the only Democrat who could beat Trump (without fraud and the various schemes the Dems pulled in 2020), and he’s also the very last person they are likely to run. Manchin would only win as a Democrat, though, he’d never win as a Republican (as so many are speculating). Indies are truly fed-up with the leftist attacks on America, on our children, on everything, but they are not so fed-up they will automatically vote for Trump. These voters hate Trump and will crawl over broken glass to vote against him, but they would be on board with Manchin. Not enthusiastic, but on board.

Cave-dwelling critters that never evolved eyes saw this coming.

It was so predictable that the slavish, water-carrying, Dumb-o-crat media lapdogs/lackeys/lemmings/prostitutes/propagandists would try to tear and knock DeSantis down, well before the GOP nomination contest, and, it was equally predictable that these idiots would attempt to slander him as an alleged “mini-Trump” or “wannabe Trump.”

The Dumb-o-crat media morons are so insufferably and tiringly predictable in their antics and in their rhetoric.

“Keep that in mind as you consider areas where DeSantis presents an even clearer present and future danger than Trump does.”

Bwahahahahahahaha. Do they realize that makes DeSantis even MORE appealing to normal Americans?

The left is afraid that DeSantis will be even more effective than Trump was, which is exactly why so many Americans are responding favorably to DeSantis.

The left thinks “worse than Trump” is an insult, but we normal Americans see it as a huge selling point!

healthguyfsu | April 24, 2022 at 5:36 pm

Trump spent decades in the private sector not giving a flip about a career in politics and that was one of the things that really hurt him. It’s unfortunate and shouldn’t be that way, but it is what it is considering our current media and political climate.

DeSantis doesn’t have that same vulnerability.

    True. Trump did pick some HORRID people (Sessions, Barr, The Mooch) to be in his cabinet. But when he got some experience, he picked better.

    Trump is ready to steamroll Washington DC, and he knows how to do it now.

Republicans need to wake up and see our strange new world, one bereft of decorum. Either that or proceed with a national divorce.

Certainly, what’s happening now in Facebook and Twitter looks a lot like the thought control that has happened in totalitarian societies. Whether in the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany or today’s China, the banning of speech is a central strategy for strongmen. Zuck has no qualms using that playbook if he thinks it will benefit him politically.

Reading this idiot, Aftergut’s, agitprop rant reminds me how utterly, intrinsically, embarrassingly infantile the Dumb-o-crat narcissists are. They’re biological adults with the emotional maturity and the intellectual depth of toddlers.

I mean, this idiot is a former federal prosecutor, presumably a person possessing a modicum of intelligence and rationality, and, yes, he’s spewing the same old, unoriginal, fanatical Leftist venom and making manifestly idiotic, pro forma slanders comparing GOP politicians to German National Socialists. It’s such lazy, regurgitated hackery from the well-worn, decades-old Dumb-o-crat playbook.

Remember when Mitt Romney was literally Hitler? Good times

The Mcmichaels have a site where you can donate for their lawyer fees for a new trial. Chauvin has a page on the same site. Quite frankly helping these men is all I care about and the only reason I even visit here still.

…..brian l roberts and comcast will be gone soon too.

God, let’s hope so.