Tulsi Gabbard and Mitt Romney get into nasty spat over US funded biolabs in Ukraine
Romney called Gabbard a traitor and Gabbard insisted Romney resign.
Grandstanding, calculated dispute, whatever it is, Tulsi Gabbard and Sen. Mitt Romney got into a nasty Twitter spat after Gabbard published a video encouraging all involved forces to destroy “dangerous pathogens” housed in the US-funded biolabs in Ukraine. Romney called Gabbard a traitor and Gabbard insisted Romney resign.
The video:
There are 25+ US-funded biolabs in Ukraine which if breached would release & spread deadly pathogens to US/world. We must take action now to prevent disaster. US/Russia/Ukraine/NATO/UN/EU must implement a ceasefire now around these labs until they’re secured & pathogens destroyed pic.twitter.com/dhDTH5smIG
— Tulsi Gabbard
(@TulsiGabbard) March 13, 2022
Sen. Romney to accused Gabbard of spreading “treasonous lies.”
Tulsi Gabbard is parroting false Russian propaganda. Her treasonous lies may well cost lives.
— Mitt Romney (@MittRomney) March 13, 2022
To which Gabbard responded:
.@MittRomney, you have called me a ‘treasonous liar’ for stating the fact that “there are 25+ US-funded biolabs in Ukraine which if breached would release & spread deadly pathogens to US/world” and therefore must be secured in order to prevent new pandemics. Bizarrely, …
— Tulsi Gabbard
… you claim that securing these labs (or even calling for securing these labs) is treasonous and will lead to a loss of life, when the exact opposite is obviously true. The spread of pathogens is what will cause the loss of life, not the prevention of such spread.
— Tulsi Gabbard
Senator Romney, please provide evidence that what I said is untrue and treasonous. If you cannot, you should do the honorable thing: apologize and resign from the Senate.
— Tulsi Gabbard
Evidence of the existence of such biolabs, their vulnerability, and thus the need to take immediate action to secure them is beyond dispute:
— Tulsi Gabbard
#1. State Department’s Victoria Nuland acknowledged such labs containing dangerous pathogens exist in Ukraine in her testimony to the US Senate (March 8, 2022): “Ukraine has biological research facilities which, in fact we are quite concerned that Russian troops may be seeking…
— Tulsi Gabbard
…to gain control of. We are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach.”
— Tulsi Gabbard
#2. Pentagon Fact sheet (March 11, 2022) has numerous statements directly & indirectly confirming the existence of such biolabs. https://t.co/63DIGQSm9c
— Tulsi Gabbard
“The United States, through BTRP, has invested approximately $200 million in Ukraine since 2005, supporting 46 Ukrainian laboratories, health facilities, and diagnostic sites.”
— Tulsi Gabbard
#3. CBS Face the Nation (March 13, 2022) correspondent David Martin said a Pentagon official told him they’re concerned about the existence of such biolabs in Ukraine: “The concern is that the Russians will seize one of these biomedical research facilities that Ukraine has…
— Tulsi Gabbard
…where they do research on deadly pathogens like botulism and anthrax, seize one of those facilities, weaponize the pathogen, and then blame it on Ukraine and the US, because the US has been providing support for some of the research being done in those facilities.”
— Tulsi Gabbard
#4. In April 2020, in refuting Russia’s accusation that U.S. is using biolabs in Ukraine to develop biological weapons, U.S. Embassy in Ukraine acknowledged there are U.S. funded labs in Ukraine working with pathogens for vaccine & other peaceful purposes https://t.co/oIPROY43l6
— Tulsi Gabbard
#5. CNN fact-check (March 10, 2022): “There are US-funded biolabs in Ukraine, that much is true.”
— Tulsi Gabbard
#6. Furthermore, according to the DoD there are two biolabs in Ukraine that have been under Russian control for some time: “Russia illegally took possession of two Ukrainian-owned laboratories that BTRP upgraded in 2014 and continues to deny Ukrainian access to these facilities.”
— Tulsi Gabbard
#6. Furthermore, according to the DoD there are two biolabs in Ukraine that have been under Russian control for some time: “Russia illegally took possession of two Ukrainian-owned laboratories that BTRP upgraded in 2014 and continues to deny Ukrainian access to these facilities.”
— Tulsi Gabbard
So, Senator Romney, you have a choice: out of pride, continue to deny the truth or admit you are wrong, apologize, and resign.
Aloha.
And remember that without the truth, we can be neither safe nor free.
— Tulsi Gabbard
True:
Imagine pining for a Romney Presidency… pic.twitter.com/Z6njxBguqK
— The Reckoning
(@sethjlevy) March 14, 2022
Relevant:
US government:
-we don't have biochem weapons in Ukraine
-okay maybe we do but it's complicated
-the Russians have biochem weapons in Ukraine
-if anyone so much as spills bleach, we must assume it was Russia and launch WWIII: Nuclear War Edition
— Pedro L. Gonzalez (@emeriticus) March 14, 2022
Also relevant:
whenever twitter does this i assume the opposite is true pic.twitter.com/gPqUJU2Jry
— Tim Pool (@Timcast) March 14, 2022
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Comments
Tulsi did no more than tell the truth.
Romney is a corrupt pussy, who withered in the face of a slob like Candy Crowley.
Call it what it is: Mitt Romney is a lying craven crapweasel. Tulsi did nothing wrong and Mittens made up malarchy and then rolled around in smugness like a disturb dog rolling in fresh feces.
They are both trash.
One needs to be recycled.
And one needs to go to the landfill.
Do we have that many people supporting Tulsi here? Wow.
Can anybody explain to me how they can support either of those two individuals?
Tulsi is like Bill Maher: basically faulty worldview, but amazingly based on specific issues at specific times.
Romney is like Biden.
She isn’t based. She is WEF.
Because in this case she is right and he is wrong?
Being right here doesn’t make her good or even acceptable. Are people really so dull that they are willing to support somebody just because they torch somebody else that they hate more? It is possible for two people in a disagreement to suck. One of them might even be right. Such is the case here.
In all fairness, acknowledging she is correct on a single point issue is a long way from “supporting” her.
I agree what she says here is absolutely right. That doesn’t make her any good at all. I don’t get the mindset that goes “Oh, this person said something I like, they must be great!” She has a long record of trash positions that would destroy the fabric and nature of our country and people here are doing a big seal-slap for her.
I do not support Tulsi’s politics in general (she is a liberal Democrat), but it is a sad state of affairs when a Democrat is more in the right than a so called Republican Mittens Romney. Romney is a putrid pandering pile of red panda poop.
No arguments from me on that point.
Tulsi – like Manchin – are the best of the worst.
Tulsi is right on the actual substance even ignoring everything else.
We really need to tighten our laws. Our research should be at facilities the long arm of the law can inspect and reach without restriction (i.e. on American soil).
But that is exactly why they are not here.
Kiev is to rogue US biological weapons research as Gitmo is to rogue US intelligence torture.
Any Browncoats here?
Every time there is new news about these mysterious labs the Ukraine, one word bubbles to the surface of my mind:
“Miranda!”
Surprisingly I agree 100%
“… There is a special circle of Hell reserved for Child Molesters and people who talk at the theatre.”
Unfortunately you are correct.
Consider that our NIAID (Fauci, etc.) had contracts with the biolabs in Wuhan (Wuhan Institute of Virology). Now we hear that we had contracts with biolabs in the Ukraine.
An obvious question — where ELSE do we have contracts?
I wouldn’t put it past our Deep State to have contracts with Russian biolabs, for example.
I is a huge mistake to build intellectual capacity in other countries, much better to do that here.
Except it is illegal to do that research here.
So instead, they have to do it somewhere else.
And to make sure they continue to control its fruits,
they have to make sure they control that somewhere else.
That was the whole point of the 2014 (Obama) Maidan coup.
The pieces fit together nicely, if you know what to look for.
“Miranda!”
I knew when I voted for Romney and Ryan I might regret it. Never figured they both would be such colossally corrupt.
That is why I voted neither Romney nor Obama.
Me too.
“Corrupt” and “GOP” – with few exceptions – are synonymous.
Don’t forget our top GOP buddy, McConnell:
https://nypost.com/2018/03/17/how-mcconnell-and-chao-used-political-power-to-make-their-family-rich/
And don’t forget that our GOP chairwoman is Mittens Romney’s niece! Ugh.
You and I made the best choice we had at the time. Personally, Herman Cain, now of blessed memory, was a much better choice.
Tulsi, a principled alternative, a viable Democrat candidate? There are precedents, even a super precedent, to lead our once “shining city upon the hill”.
I dislike her politics and she’s done the odd thing that reeks but she’s got more integrity than most politicians, let alone American politicians.
I get the feeling she is sincere, even when she’s sincerely wrong. She’s doing what she has deduced is right, not pandering to a pressure group like a Cori Bush or a Lori Lightfoot. I get the same feeling from Russell Means, and the pills he has been handing out most recently have progressed from deep blue to quite fluorescently violet.
I’ve slowly come to that conclusion myself, she’s the rare honest lefty.
I think so. I disagree with almost all of her positions on the issues but she is principled as far as I can say and a serious person who has thought out what she believes. A far cry from what the Dems have in charge now. Never forget how she took Harris apart on the debate stage.
There might also be a Biochem lab in Wuhan, China that the US funded that we should look into. Oops! It is not Where’s Waldo these days, but Where’s Fauci.
Not a big fan of Gabbard but Romney is the only one who got nasty here.
Gabbard’s measured response has apparently silenced Willard.
I’m wondering if the over-the-top, borderline unhinged outrage from Mittens is a sign of early stage Alzheimer’s.
No… maybe he’s just a spoilt brat used to getting his way.
Or maybe it is all theater designed to prop her up as a centrist who stands up to the left and right.
No alzheimers, just an inflamed asshole.
No. As Governor of Massachusetts, Romney had a habit of leading with his dick.
Almost always it was because he really had no other logical argument.
And it’s not as if it was all that impressive when he led with it.
I never thought there would be a day that I agreed with Tulsi Gabbard. But Romney sure does make that an easy decision.
A hard core Democrat, and a White Obama. Hmmmmmm, who does one choose?
Which is which?
“Gabbard insisted Romney resign.”
I wish she had been a Republican so it would have hurt more.
The Washington established sure did have a problem with the ‘norm-destroying’ Donald Trump and his churlish, Bull in a China Shop disposition and his propensity for calling political opponent inappropriate names . And yet, here we have a sitting US Senator calling a former House member a TRAITOR – in public, no less – merely raised the notion that we should be more circumspect when dealing with a nuclear superpower. If that’s not ‘norm-destroying,’ what is?
I don’t agree with most things Gabbard says. But, some things she says have some merit. If Mitt Romney can’t make a logical, compelling counter-argument with first offering an ad hominem attack, then maybe he can’t make a logical, compelling counter-argument.
Romney couldn’t make a compelling counter argument to Candy Crowley when she emasculated him with a lie during a debate with Obama.
This is the same Romney who lost a presidential debate to Candy Crowley. That is why I have voted 3rd party so many times. The squishy GOP keeps forcing me to cite the Pasadena Phil Rule.
The only regret I have about that debate is that Crowley didn’t go up to Romney at the end and sit on him, until he expired.
+10
His loss seemed awfully calculated. Like he became stupified on command.
No, he really is that stupid. Mitt is a real-life James William Bottomtooth III. He’s been handed many prime jobs because of his privilege, and never succeeded at any of them.
Still waiting to hear more about the lab we funded in Wuhan.
And the Ukraine. And who knows where else???
Did Fauci go into hiding before more of his experiments get released?
Maybe the devil’s rent came due for that portrait in his attic.
He’s doing just fine, sitting on a pile of money, getting fawning phone calls from Hollywood idiots.
Can’t you show a little mercy? Poor man lost his dog. Blew off the top of his car going 90 mph on I-40.
Article cites #6 twice.
I think she’s insane for citing #5, the source means I instinctively believe the opposite.
But she’s provided references, and even without that I really can’t see what she’s said that might be considered treasonous, or indeed that parrots Russian propaganda. The Russians are claiming there are biological weapons programmes, and Gabbard hasn’t mentioned weapons at all.
Re #5: If you can’t use a swamp claim to beat up the swamp, what other good is it?
Remember: Hillary Clinton called Tulsi a “Russian asset”.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/22/tulsi-gabbard-sues-hillary-clinton-over-russian-asset-smear-102074
Now you know unequivocally that Tulsi is not a Russian asset and Hillary Clinton IS.
Good catch.
I’m with you on #5. Using that source to fact check anything is suspect in the least but the other points have merit.
With luck both of them will go away. tulsi may be temporarily red pilled but she’s a liberal to the core.
Yes, but she’s not a criminal or a traitor, which almost every democrat in fact is.
She is WEF.
Ok, OK, “UNCLE”.
Anyone, even a lefty, that puts that corrupt commie Romney in his place gets my admiration. I’ve resisted as long as I can.
I like Tulsi even if I disagree with her most of the time but she is right on this one. It has been known since the fall of the Soviet Union that along with their nukes, Ukraine had these labs. The US has been funding them ever since in order to keep them safe and figure out how to shut them down. For Romney to call her “traitorous” is silly. I loathe the man but he is usually smarter than this.
He has his hand in the cookie jar.
Bingo.
Romney is as corrupt as biden.
Take him out then go away…that’s my most useful position for Gabbard.
I sure hope Utah voters smarten up and don’t send the useless Romney back to DC. The guy is a complete idiot.
Nearly as Omar, AOC, Abrams, Waters and too many others.
“Utah voters smarten up”
I got a laugh out of that. Don’t hold your breath.
Having seen firsthand how a campaign machine like McCain’s can stymie the will of an entire state full of conservatives, plus survive well after his own death, I suspect the same thing may easily be going on in Utah.