Penn Transgender Swimmer Lia Thomas Crushes Biological Females in NCAA Championship
“finished the 500-yard freestyle with a 4:33.24 and picked up the victory”
Lia Thomas, the formerly male swimmer from the University of Pennsylvania continues to rack up wins over biological females.
In fact, Thomas picked up a championship win on Thursday.
FOX News reports:
Lia Thomas picks up victory in 500 free national championship
Lia Thomas is a national champion.
The transgender Penn swimmer, whose participation in college women’s swimming sparked a national debate, finished the 500-yard freestyle with a 4:33.24 and picked up the victory. According to the University of Pennsylvania, Thomas set a program record with the mark.
Thomas was about three seconds off Georgia Tech’s pool record, which was set by Leah Smith of Virginia in 2016 with a mark of 4:30.81. Katie Ledecky holds the NCAA record with a 4:24.06 at the national championships.
In this race, Thomas beat out Virginia freshman Emma Weyant by more than one second and Texas freshman Erica Sullivan by at least two. Brooke Forde, who won a silver medal at the Olympics in Tokyo over the summer in the 4×200-meter freestyle, raced for Stanford and finished in fourth with a 4:36.18.
If you ignore the liberal media spin about social change and just pay attention to the crowd, you get a different sense of how people feel about this.
In this video, the crowd doesn’t cheer until the first and second biological females finish:
500 free prelims @NCAA champs this am. Thomas in the lead for tonight. Note: the audience doesn't cheer until 2nd and 3rd WOMEN finish. #SaveWomensSports pic.twitter.com/SL8eM4fT2b
— Emily Kreps (@ekreps) March 17, 2022
In this video you can clearly hear a woman yell “He’s a man!” as Thomas is shown on a large screen:
Woman in the crowd yells “He’s a man!” as Thomas is interviewed post win pic.twitter.com/vKjNe1c82w
— Sav (@RapidFire_Pod) March 17, 2022
Here, a young female student describes the sadness of a friend who lost a slot:
Virginia Tech swimmer competing in this year’s NCAA championship details how her teammate was brought to tears after her place in the finals was taken by Lia Thomas: pic.twitter.com/mow56mVp1W
— Sav (@RapidFire_Pod) March 17, 2022
Many of the women who disagree with what’s happening here are remaining silent out of fear. That’s exactly what the social justice left is counting on.
Madeline Leesman writes at Townhall:
Female UPenn Swimmer: Lia Thomas’ Participation ‘Completely Ruined the Integrity of the Sport’
An anonymous female swimmer for the University of Pennsylvania said in an interview this week that she fears the impact of biological male William “Lia” Thomas’ participation in the 2022 NCAA Women’s Swimming and Diving Championships has “completely ruined the integrity of the sport.”
The anonymous student-athlete told Fox News in an interview published Thursday that the decisions that led to Thomas competing against biological women, and breaking records, is “disappointing” and the NCAA “lacks the courage to do the right thing.”
“It’s [Thomas winning against women] not necessarily an achievement in my mind,” the student said. “Women’s records are separate from men’s records. It’s its own distinct category because no woman is going to be as fast as man, and here is just completely – we’re just throwing away the definition of a record to fit into someone else’s agenda of what it should mean to them when in reality it makes no scientific sense to do so.”
There were some protesters at the event Thursday:
The group “Save Women’s Sports” was protesting Lia Thomas outside of the NCAA championships today.
A protester shares 16 NCAA athletes signed an anonymous letter asking the group to be their voice and fight for them: pic.twitter.com/42WN6iMUUo
— Sav (@RapidFire_Pod) March 18, 2022
Until more women are willing to take a stand and speak out, this will continue.
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As bad as I hate to say this..
I’m glad this has happened and hope it happens all over the place every day now.
The sad truth is that “we” ( defined for the purpose of this post as legitimate right leaning conservatives and true MAGA Americans) sat in our comfort zones and actually encouraged this to happen. ( and yes, I will include myself in this as well because I didn’t see it at first either)
Our “sins of commission” were that we never actually united and stood against the left during their infancy and allowed this to happen right in front of us.
Our “sins of omission” are that we tolerated and never policed our own ranks of the Cheneys, Mittens, Grahams, Turtles, Gowdys and all the rest when there was still time o avoid the iceberg.
Intentions aside, we sowed these seeds into the wind and now we are reaping the whirlwind.
Only “we” can stop it and we wont stop it by doing the same “nothings” that allowed it to get here in the first place.
Lets all sit back and enjoy the fruits of our labor- here it is in all its raving glory.
Then I suggest we shake it off, get a plan and come out swinging or either we will settle for this times a million worse by default because this enemy is relentless, has no mercy, cannot be reasoned or negotiated with and will never stop (just like a terminator)
That’s just the truth.
After reading closer- “commission” defined from a “duty of care” standpoint as out “inaction” was the act committed. I should have worded that better.
My daughter when she asked when gays got the right to marriage what I thought. I said I don’t deny anyone the gift of love and if gays want to get married, so be it, but I was scared of what would come next. I knew it would be a carnage, and it has been.
I also thought a civil union with all the rights would have been appropriate but no, they had to have the word “marriage”. It has been a disaster and opened the door to such horror as sexual grooming in kinder. Yes, I know the trans are not “gays”, but gays allowed them to grab on to their issues and use them and this is where we are.
How do you close the floodgates when they are wide open? I think you have to let everything drain out, Armageddon?
It is not going to end well.
What? Trans are not gays?
If we are forced to believe a tranny male to female cross dresser is a woman, but has sex with women, then they are lesbian. G A Y !
If they are trannies who date men, then they are biological males who have sex with males. Thus GAY.
What are they really? Psychological nut bags.
Please stop using their framework.
Trans refers to a state or process of divergence. Gender refers to physical and mental sex-correlated attributes (e.g. sexual orientation). Homosexuality is a transgender spectrum disorder, albeit a stable progression. That said, civil unions for all couples and couplets. Marriage has religious (i.e. behavioral) connotations. So much for separation of “Church and State”. Perhaps at the penumbra’s edge.
Actually that’s NOT what gender refers to or is about…its grammatical…referring to male or female. The wokies took yet another word and twisted it to make it mean something it doesn’t…completely invented out of whole cloth
This guy is such a shameless clown.
The 15 year old Russian skater who heart meds were forced upon: that’s cheating.
But this dufus oaf swimming in women’s events – that’s not cheating.
Clowns, all of them.
So girls, how’s that feminism working out for ya?
HIS name is not Lia.
HE is not a Trans.
HE is a MAN with a PENIS!
In the “born too soon” department….if I were in my teens right now, I’d be signing up for every girl sport I had time for. Not for the trophies and championships, but solely for the locker room fun. Just thinking about the book and movie offers would’ve made me drool, not to mention the lawsuits from the beatings I’d get from the Lettermen’s Club.
Cynical? Oh yeah! Rich at an early age? Yay! Taking advantage of a corrupt and idiocratic system to satisfy the basest of motives? Schadenfreude!
In Junior High, a friend and I actually signed up for the Home Economics class as a lark, ’cause that’s where the girls were. We learned our way around the kitchen, and the girls thought we were lovable for involving ourselves in what at that time was their world.
My future wife told me she fell in love with me because I cooked for her. Double yay!!
On a more serious note, I remember the cries from the lefties about how unfair the “system” was without equal weight and tax money for girl’s sports. Any present-day wailing about “that’s not what we intended” leaves me pegged at zero on the I-don’t-care-meter. My views were unwelcome then, so….”Doctor, heal thyself.”
Well that’s all fine amd dandy. I tried to sign up for woodworking and was told , as a girl, in the early .60’s, I couldn’t. They MADE me take cooking and I hated it.
My parents did not fight for me and I was 12 and didn’t fight for myself. It put a damper on my abilities for sometime till I claimed my own.
Glad you had such a great time
Ha ha! The other side of that.
I wanted to take typing. They told me that was for the “business” students, I was on the college track, and I would take a third history — if I needed typing done in the future, my secretary would do that. Then guess what happened to the world. 💻😂
When “electives”… really aren’t.
That’s odd. I took typing in HS because it was part of the “college track”.
I also took typing in high school, but there were two different courses. One was a single semester class targeted at college prep students like me, and a full year class targeted at business students.
I wanted to take the latter so I could learn business correspondence, reports, etc. I was accused by school administration of only wanting to take the class to meet girls, and I had to fight like hell until they finally allowed it.
It turned out to be one of the best decisions I ever made, as I found it invaluable to my career. Especially since I never rose high enough in the ranks to have an admin handle my written work.
Sometimes, fighting against gender stereotypes is a good thing. Too bad we didn’t leave it at that.
Apparently “Lia” still has his full male package and reports to be attracted to women. The actual females on the swim team complained to administration they were uncomfortable changing in front of him and with how comfortable he appeared to be exposing his male parts to them…they were told to basically shut up and only what “Lia” wanted mattered. And that they were basically bigotted transphobes
I am actually very happy that this is happening.
For most of my life, as a male, I was told that women are always right. If a man says something about a woman, it’s misogyny. It’s narcissistic.
But the shoe seems to be on the other foot. Women are now being told that they can’t complain about a male because it’s… transphobic… or is it misogyny?
I can’t tell anymore.
But I am glad it is happening.
I can’t wait until every member of every women’s sporting league/team – US Olympic Women’s Soccer, WNBA, LPGA, US Women’s Olympic Hockey – is replaced by a dude. Hopefully, the US Women’s Soccer will be the first to be displaced because they deserve it the most. When it’s men making all that money, maybe then all of these professional female athletes who owe EVERYTHING to Title IX will finally find the courage to say ‘ENOUGH’ to this bullshit.
I suspect until that happens, they’ll all remain silent.
(Of course, US Women’s Gymnastics won’t have anything to worry about because – get this – there aren’t any men trying out for those teams. I wonder why.)
Can’t wait until Megan Rapinoe is asking people how they want their subs topped.
Yes, this is precisely why trans/homosexuals are bigots, purists, supremacists, including the highly publicized exclusion of trans/bisexuals from their social circles (e.g. something or other night club). We’ll see if the feminists stand up for women, and girls, or if they are #MeToo, too. Lose your Pro-Choice religion.
Well, she needs to talk to Meghan Markle to find out how to get ahead in the world without working .
Similar to Kamala Harris. Hitch a ride on the coat tales of a man. Or should I say hitch her mouth on the tail of…
Raminoe and this clown should get together. It could straighten up (as it were) the both of them.
I’d pay an extra 15 cents just to hear Megan RapinHO say: “Do you want fries with that?
Any chance this dude will “identify” as male at some point in the near future and announce this was all an elaborate troll job?
Jack, THAT would be a worthy comedy movie to watch.
The guy is a pussy.
But, has (s)he been castrated and dismembered ?
He has not. He also stares at the girls in the locker room. They’ve admitted as much anonymously and said how uncomfortable they are around him. They’ve said that he makes it very well known that he likes girls.
I saw a full frontal photo if him (note, not her) in a black one piece bathing suit and saw no sign of genitalia. Either he hides it extremely well, he never had much to begin with, or he’s been surgically mutilated.
The feminizing hormones have an effect hornet
Nope fully male and says he likes sex with women….
“Until more women are willing to take a stand and speak out, this will continue.”
Women did take a stand. All of them, actively and passively.
They demanded this.
They demanded that women be allowed in mens lockerooms. They demanded that women and men be considered as equals. They demanded that anything a man can do, I can do better.
So now women. Shut the fuck up.
“Congrats, Man! Five Biological Dudes Who Won 2021 Women-Only Contests”
“I’m The Great Transgender Pretender”
Oh-oh, yes, I’m the great transgender pretender
Pretending that I’m doing well
My need is such I pretend too much
I’m lonely, but no one can tell
Yes, I’m the great transgender pretender
Just laughin’ and gay like a clown
I seem to be what I’m not, you see
I’m wearing my sex like a crown
Pretending I’m a female all around
I’d like to see comments from his former male teammates if there there is someone so bold as to interview one or more of them.
He couldn’t compete with the males. The only way he could set a record is to compete with girls. But when a first class male swimmer decides to go transgender, Thomas’ mediocre record will be history.
I’ve heard that he ranked something like 146th out of male swim competitors when competing as a male against other males. And now since his miraculous transformation “she’s” now in the top 10 possibly top five women swimmers.
Women’s sports. The back-up when you just can’t hack it in men’s sports.
He was well into the mid-400s – I think 450(ish) – when he was swimming with other men.
I was a swimmer in my glory days past.
I swam a 4:48 500 yard freestyle – and I wasn’t even good enough to compete on the male team.
4:33 is a joke for men. The B qualifying time for NCAA for 500 yard freestyle is 4:23.
4:33 is a joke for men
And that’s why he’s chosen to compete as a woman. He was never able to compete as a man
So, trans/homos can reproduce in absentia or over the Rainbow, and trans/neos have lowered the metaphorical scalpel on girls, women where physiology matters. Perhaps the males are gaming the system to expose, overcome the insidious bigotry of diversity, inequity, and exclusion and other socially forward-looking policies. Nice.
It guess it only works one way. I haven’t seen any females transgendering to the opposite sex so they can compete with men.
Well there was a female Trans swimmer (female to male) swimming for Yale against Lia at one of the meets. The person has not started their hormones yet so can’t (and doesn’t think they would qualify) swim with the males.
She did get her breasts removed though which gives her a slight advantage in body streamlining.
Yeah, but smaller feet.
There were a couple a few years in the middle school/early high school range because they were allowed to take massive testosterone and steroid doses as part of their ‘treatment’ that were actually against the rules for the boys to be using, and younger boys did actually had a hard time competing with a doped-up girl. As soon as they were forced to abide by the same drug rules as the boys they disappeared forever.
Trans/neos cannot change their sex, but they can change their sexual orientation, and external attributes through transgender conversion therapy. Or they can identify as trans/fluid, avoid both choices (e.g. Pro-Choice religion), and engage in heterosexual relationships. For example: JITT (Just in Time Transgender). #NoJudgment #NoLabels
State sanctioned sexual abuse.
I just can’t believe these girls are competing with the monster. I would boycott and that would be the end of it.
They have to have ovaries of steel. I know college tuition is expensive, but so is your soul. They are letting him “swim” all over them.
The power is in their hands, if they would only lose it.
Having a swim team of one trans wouldn’t do well for the school or sport.
One more thing, title 9 was needed for women’s sports . There was no avenue to support women in sports till it passed. Women are more than half the population and even though we are not as strong or fast as males, as you can see, we love to compete .There is so much as an individual to gain and society from confident women who have put in the hours to train and compete. It’s much like boot camp all year round. I say this as a mother of a D1 basketball female player. What it taught my daughter and helped mold her to be the person she is , well it is just amazing.
It was well worth the money. I get it that we will never r”beat” the males, but that’s not really the purpose of it.
When I was in HS the boys had a jr Olympic swimming pool amd swim team. The girls had a large tub, with makeup frequently on the walls and no sports teams. This was the 60’s. I was athletic had no where to go then. If I had had sports, I belt it would have driven me in different directions and given confidence I lacked for many years.
So stop with the title 9 BS.
Whatever. Until biological women in these sports simply walk away and refuse to compete against travesties like Lia Thomas I have lost all sympathy for them. By continuing to compete biological women have said that it’s OK for them to come in 2nd or 3rd against a man even though it’s in a women’s competition. So until that ends, people can cry me a river but it doesn’t mean a thing.
The belief that men and women are equal in rights and complementary in Nature/nature has been deprecated with political congruence (“=”) (e.g. consensus) and social progress that denies a compelling cause to normalize a favorable juxtaposition of the sexes. All’s fair in lust and abortion.
I agree, they have to refuse to compete and stand down
Whatever? Hey whatever FU
Make up your mind gonzo….not that Lucifer’s “whatever” wasn’t in response to you.
By the way, having women’s sports and subsidizing them disproportionately to fan support are two different things.
I do t want it both ways. I want women sports for women, but it’s the competitors who must fight this. They must refuse to compete with men.
And it will be end of story, let the trans swim alone or against other trans, that’s it if they don’t want to swim against their biological sex.
As far as money goes, we support lots of things that aren’t productive in society and support the military of the entire”free” world
Asking for help with money to support womens sports is minuscule compared to the billions we spend on war toys and has a big positive for society.
Very few mens sports pay their way either. Only a handful of sports, like mens basketball at mostly big time basketball schools make any money. I have gone to mens games at big universities and only a handful Of people were there. It’s a fallacy that mens sports pay for womens. It’s student fees that pay for the most part.
I just joined Save Womens Sports
. These women swimmers are waiting for someone to step in to save them. Ain’t going to happen. All women need to stop competing immediately. Take matters into your own hands.
She looks cute. What’s her status? /s
“HE might even let you suck his d!ck……
I wasn’t thinking about that but you did. Projection much?
I hear he is attracted to girls so you have a chance.
Using “biological” as a modifier of male or female is unnecessary. it’s redundant. There are no other kinds.
“Lia” Thomas is a male dominating a female swimming competition. The results are hardly shocking. What’s shocking is that he’s allowed to compete at all.
Destroying women’s sports, Marxism trying to destroy society and family values with trannie pushing.
Yes, he won the 500 last night because, as a biological male, he has superior height (more streamlined and better angle of attack in the water), weight (dive and push-offs), strength (force of pull and kick), lung capacity (more substantial oxygen/CO2 exchange), and endurance (greater ability to sustain power)–than any of his biological female competitors. This was especially evident in the last 100 where, while only .61 second ahead of Emma Weyant (3:39.29 vs. 3:39.90), he split :27.45 and 26.50 on the last two 50’s (total 5th 100 of :53.95) while Ms. Weyan split :27.83 and :27.26 (total 5th 100 :55.09). At bottom, when the race mattered (that is, at the end) he simply could swim FASTER than the woman! For the same reason, he’s likely to do the same tonight in the 200 Finals, where his second 100 (:51.22) was 1.81 seconds faster than the first-place qualifier (Taylor Ruck), whose second 100 (:53.03) may not be enough to beat him. To be sure, he went out 2.01 seconds slower than Ms. Ruck (:50.87 vs. :48.86), but, as often occurs with all swimmers talented enough to make the Finals with a less-than-optimum effort, he will likely go out faster than he did in the Preliminaries. As a man, he’s not very competitive, but with his overwhelming male advantages, he’s almost a shoe-in for the win. Too bad that the NCAA, together with almost everyone in the natatorium, including the universities, hosts, officials, coaches, et al., has allowed this guy to destroy women’s hard-earned swimming championships.
Next up, second rate men’s college athletes will find out they’re women and take all the Title IX scholarship money. Excuse me while I have a hearty laugh.
According to the 200 Finals tonight, he went out (first 100) .53 faster (:50.34) than this morning, which actually seems a little slower than he should be able to go (he’s at least a high :47 sprinter); but then, unlike this morning., his third and fourth 50’s were 1.84 slower than in the Preliminaries, which caused him to finish 5th. (BTW his last 50 in the 500 the night before was faster–:26.50–than his final 50 tonight!). Had he come back as fast as he did this morning, he would have finished 2nd. But had he gone out in, say, :49.5, and then repeated the same splits on the last 100 (:25.66 and :25.56 = :51.22) as in the morning, he would have won easily in 1:40.72. Looks to me like he threw the race–as he likely did in the 100 Free earlier in the year at the Yale-Penn dual meet, where he reportedly let a “trans” man, “Iszac” Henig (who, I note, is calling herself “Isabelle,” probably her real given name, at these NCAA Championships) beat him to defuse the growing outrage real women were voicing against his intrusion into their ranks. I’m not sure this can be proven–after all, as a mediocre men’s performer, he may simply have “choked” here, though I greatly doubt it–but it looks like he threw some or all of the race. A cheater who cheats in one race can be expected to cheat in any race if it advances his cause. If he breaks :48 in the 100 tomorrow, we’ll have a better understanding of this guy’s disposition. In any case, and again, it’s too bad he’s destroying women’s athletics.
My guess he is
Will Thomas, the transvestite from Pennsylvania whom the NCAA is allowing to ruin women’s swimming, went :47.37 this morning in the 100 Freestyle, qualifying fourth and proving, once again, that he likely threw the 200 last night when he finished fifth in a clearly dialed-back effort (especially in the second half of the race). His problem now is that he’s probably not fast enough to overtake the first two qualifiers in tonight’s 100 Finals: Gretchen Walsh (:46.78) and Katherine Berkoff (:46.89). If he gets beat this time, it’ll be because he’s not really a sprinter. Regardless, and again! . . . he doesn’t belong there.
Let’s wrap this up with a comment on the results of the Women’s 100 Freestyle Final tonight. Mr. Thomas appears to have thrown another race–this time in the second 50
–evidently in support of his effort to defuse the outrage among women and men alike over the NCAA’s allowing him to intrude into women’s athletics. Finishing “last,” as one media outlet put it, he clearly loafed the second split. Eighth at the 50, he went out in :23.19, .08 second slower than this morning’s Prelims. All of the other competitors broke :23.0 (ranging from :22.10 for the winner Gretchen Walsh to :22.90 for 5th Place finisher Gabi Albiero)! Then he came back (second 50) in a dismal, and clearly effortless :24.99 (whereas this morning he went :24.26). All of the others went broke :24.70! His Final performance was :48.18 (.81 seconds slower than this morning). The man is not that good, and he probably couldn’t have beaten Mss. Walsh, but it’s obvious he held back. This cheating should neither be ignored nor go unpunished.
Good for him. I hope to see more men competing in women’s sports. I can’t wait for tennis and basketball. Especially tennis where the prize money is equal to the men’s tour. Men ranked 200+ will own the WTA and I’ll sip a glass of fine single malt to their success.
The women have been all over “equality” so they can pay the price.
What? You mean that the women who have spent decades yelling “women can do anything men can do” are finally seeing that they can’t? Who knew?
Well, you are partly correct. I believe the tag line was: Anything a man can, I can do better.
It appears that wasn’t exactly a factual statement
I love my coffee with a hint of schadenfreude.
There are rumors that I may not be a “nice” person. Probably gonna prove it here. In 1994, the ex-husband of a rival of figure skater Nancy Kerrigan had Kerrigan attacked and her knee was badly injured just before Olympic trials. That is the level of violence in competition that women’s sports can reach. Nancy Kerrigan was attacked with a collapsible baton.
I admit that I am kinda expecting something similar to happen to the faux-Women’s sports competitors when someone gets sufficiently micturated-off. And while a collapsible baton applied to the parts in question in the dispute should be effective, I would not be surprised if something called a “cowboy knife” was involved.
Mind you, I don’t care about either college or professional sports. But I know there are some people for which either or both are almost a religion.
“Man who couldn’t compete against men beats women to win race”. I’m glad this is being played out in real time. Quite a few people that support Dems and this nonsense are finally having their eyes opened to the danger.
I wonder how many of the whiny, complaining women vote Democratic and are too silly to understand that they got what they asked for
I am watching the NCAA men’s tournament. The NCAA just aired a feel-good commercial about student athletes that showed a clip of people marching in support of Title IX. Then a Buick commercial arguing that women’s sports should get more air time.
The dissonance is clear.
You shouldn’t adopt the progressive fascists way of describing this. The truth is that a mentally I’ll guy is pretending to be a women and beating real women to swimming contests.