Ilya Shapiro Shouted Down, Prevented From Speaking At UC-Hastings Law School: “Get Out!”
Relentless pounding on tables and yelling caused event to be halted: “We want you off this campus, that’s what we want… We don’t want to hear from you… Get out!”
We have covered extensively the attacks on Ilya Shapiro at Georgetown Law Center after tweets he sent criticizing Joe Biden’s decision only to consider black women for the opening created by Justice Stephen Breyer’s announced retirement.
Shapiro voiced the view that the best candidate would be the Chief Judge of the DC Circuit Court of Appeals, Sri Srinivasan, and that Biden’s search limitation would result in the selection of a “lesser black woman.” The use of that term, which Shapiro admitted was inartful, caused a firestorm at Georgetown, including his suspension and calls for him to be fired.
The tide turned pretty quickly that what was happening was yet another example of cancel culture, and a breach of academic freedom. Many people on all sides of the aisle and all races and ethnicities objected to the attacks on Shapiro:
- Profile In Cowardice: Georgetown Law Dean Bill Treanor Suspends Conservative Legal Scholar Ilya Shapiro
- Georgetown Law Student Protesters Demand Ilya Shapiro Firing, Reparations, Place To Cry, End To “Originalist” Center
- Stifling Debate And Purging Dissenters At Georgetown Law Over Ilya Shapiro
- Ilya Shapiro To Whoopi: “Let’s Talk … We Have To Disrupt This Toxic Cultural Moment In Favor Of Free Speech”
- Prof. Glenn Loury’s “Ilya Shapiro Moment” – Diversity, Equity and Inclusion “at the US Supreme Court is a very bad idea”
- Appeals Court Judge James Ho: “if Ilya Shapiro is deserving of cancellation, then you should go ahead and cancel me too”
Just as it seemed like things were calming down, there was an ugly incident at UC-Hasting Law School, where Shapiro was invited to a debate pre-controversy. A crowd of several dozen law students got in Shapiro’s face (physically), and shouted at him and pounded the tables so relentlessly for almost 45 minutes that the speech was cancelled.
You can view the full 53 minute video at the BLSA Instagram page. Here are very short excerpts which give a taste of what went on for almost an hour:
Nate Hochman at National Review wrote about it:
Shapiro was met at the venue by a crowd of activists affiliated with the school’s Black Law Students Association (BLSA). The event began quietly, with opening remarks by the president of the school’s Federalist Society. When Shapiro took the lectern, the activists — dressed in all black and carrying signs denouncing Shapiro and the school administration — erupted into loud chants of “black lawyers matter” and pounded the table to drown him out.
Shapiro’s repeated attempts to speak were silenced by yells from the assembled students, who unleashed a stream of profanity and insults as he stood silently at the front of the room. (“When did you start balding? Are you sad that you’re balding? I would be,” one said mockingly to laughter from the audience. “You’re a f***ing coward!” another yelled). Multiple student activists physically confronted Shapiro; one moved to block his access to the lectern and later began clapping in his face as students chanted, “Say it to her face, coward.” Activists began drawing “black lawyers matter” on the whiteboard behind him. At one point, they commandeered the box controlling the Zoom stream of the event and flooded the live comment section.
Here’s one of the videos posted by a student linked in Hochman’s report:
Ilya Shapiro at UC Hastings. Sound on to hear what Black law students and allies have to say. pic.twitter.com/7kQ0y80qhh
— Senya Merchant (@SenyaSimron) March 1, 2022
(archive)
Hochman continued:
In the middle of the turmoil, Shapiro left the room to consult with organizers. While he was gone, academic dean and provost of students Morris Ratner attempted to calm the room. “Free speech . . . is a key right that we are required to uphold, so I applaud those of you who want to express your views,” he said. “There’s a way to do that that’s consistent with our institutional codes and norms.” That was met with laughter and boos from the audience. “It’s not a legitimate point of view!” one student yelled.
“I hear you, but we have a code of student conduct, that makes it a violation . . . to disrupt an event, so we’re gonna try this one more time,” Ratner responded. Activists were unsatisfied. “We can’t have a bigot on campus,” one said. Another approached the dean directly. “Remove him off the f***ing campus, because that’s what we want,” she said. The crowd cheered.
And here’s a BLSA student activist cussing out Morris Ratner, the law school’s academic dean and provost of students. “We can’t have a bigot on campus,” she yells. “Remove him off the f*****g campus, because that’s what we want.” The crowd erupts into cheers.
And here’s a BLSA student activist cussing out Morris Ratner, the law school’s academic dean and provost of students. “We can’t have a bigot on campus,” she yells. “Remove him off the f*****g campus, because that’s what we want.” The crowd erupts into cheers. pic.twitter.com/eCBcw1RE5l
— Nate Hochman (@njhochman) March 2, 2022
BLSA released a set of demands that included all faculty being trained in Critical Race Theory.
Yesterday, Ilya Shapiro was shouted down by student activists at UC Hastings, where he was scheduled to speak on the SCOTUS vacancy. Among other things, activists demanded that faculty advisers "undergo intensive CRT training" and that CRT be "a grad requirement for all students" pic.twitter.com/ska26qr9oP
— Nate Hochman (@njhochman) March 2, 2022
Robby Soave at Reason writes:
UC Hastings put out a statement reaffirming its commitment to free speech and noting that the protesters had violated the student code.
“Disrupting an event to prevent a speaker from being heard is a violation of our policies and norms, including the Code of Student Conduct and Discipline, Section 107 (‘Harmful Acts and Disturbances’), which the College will—indeed, must—enforce,” said Ratner in a statement.
I pressed Ratner for more details about what kind of action would be taken, but the college declined to comment further.
Shapiro provided me with the following statement in reaction to the shout down:
“It’s too bad that a heckler’s veto prevailed here, but I’d welcome the opportunity to return to Hastings—or anywhere else—to discuss the Supreme Court, constitutional law, and other areas where I may have expertise.”
You are seeing the demise of legal education, where fundamental rights and values are replaced by social justice activism. And it’s going to get worse with recent moves by the American Bar Association to embed required race-focused study on law students.
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“You are seeing the demise of legal education”
And along with it the demise of the United States of America.
Indeed. These people aren’t going away. They aren’t being challenged. The country will soon be governed by these tyrants.
When people say – oh, just wait until they hit the real world, they’ll change their tune. No. These people will be the real world and will make us play their music.
Not enough people care or are too scared to do anything about it.
If the people who shouted him down, and particularly the people who physically threatened him, are admitted to the bar, something’s very wrong. They should not be allowed to graduate, much less sit for the bar exam.
Every last one of them should have been expelled from law school…and yes the fact they face zero consequences and will be rewarded does not portend well for Law and this country in general.
The process of identifying the specific students, particularly the ring leaders is very important at this point. Assuming that the Law School wants them to get away with this, a “we could not identify them” is the only avaiable excuse.
The local district attorney will probably not investigate or take this to the grand jury. So, the only other path is civil litigation where the plaintiffs take the deposition of all of the leaders of the BLSA and gather up all available video. The key is to gather as much evidence before graduating seniors go before the character and fitness committee of the Bar to which they will seek admissions.
The administration proved that being squishy on the defense of free speech is a horrid thing. Far better that an administration official had taken the stage before the talk started and made a very simple announcement.
“The Administration and students at UC Hastings value free speech. If anybody would like to take the podium and speak after Professor Shapiro is done, please form a line on this side of the stage. If anyone disrupts Professor Shapiro or another speaker, you will be removed from this room and expelled, with no refund of fees.”
Graduate? Hell, those childish buffoons shouldn’t have been admitted in the first place.
And they wouldn’t have been even twenty years ago. But yay! Progress! And stuff.
I will go out on a limb and say the California Bar is MORE likely to admit someone who screams obscenities at a conservative speaker. They might even overlook an arrest record for it.
why weren’t the rabble arrested – and expelled?
Because they were wanted and the administration agrees with them.
I don’t know the administration there, but it’s their campus, their students, their fault. Presumably they don’t consider it a fault, but a feature.
Yes, these people will not ‘grow out of it.” They will become radical activists and perhaps even terrorists like the two NYC lawyers who threw molotov cocktails into a police car.
Exactly, these are not cry babies, and making fun of the with the “real world” narrative is a suicide capsule, wish I could upvote your comment more than once.
Nah, it’s just lawyers. Lawyers have a bad reputation already. Now it will be even worse. The country is a hell of a lot more than lawyers.
The fact that Shapiro stood there and took this misbehavior, and even said he’d like to come back, means he’s a dweeb. I understand he’s been made a dweeb by the professional realities in law schools and law generally, but as a non-lawyer I can just wish to move them all to the side and get on without them.
We can be a nation of laws, in a simpler more basic sense, without being a nation of lawyers.
When the likes of Putin kills a few of them, they’ll change their tune, and come crying for the likes of Ilya Shapiro,
Putin facilitated the rise of this scum and this disruption, to disrupt the United States. It’s an old Soviet Communist strategy, to exacerbate the racial divisions. They’re his shock troops.
I can say Putin is right in the current action in Ukraine, while still realizing he’s ex-KGB and a competitor of the United States and supports “active measures” to weaken us.
Small minds, such as these “students” apparently have, are incapable of holding more than one thought at a time, and they are certainly unable to wrestle with concepts contrary to their worldview.
Necessity is the mother of invention. They have no necessity. They’ve found a nice train to success, and they’re riding it all the way. Soon it will be up to all of us to watch out for those lawyers and others like them, maybe we’ll have to do informal background checks to try to identify this sort of behavior they did in law school, because the legal profession will be even more infested.
Black snowflakes matter!
Isn’t the real issue here that people like these do not matter, should not matter. They should all be calling in for an award ceremony, then publicly expel the whole group. Stop allowing people who do not qualify solely on academic merit. Put an end to Affirmative BS.
That’s right they should not matter. Which is why in the last video, the female gets outraged that someone would think they are “insignificant”.
They get in your face because in a calm, logical world, they have nothing to offer.
How did these fools get in law school?
Can you imagine hiring one of these fools?
Exactly, it is common for Affirmative hires to have great verbal skills and for them to appear competent, only to find out later that there is little competence. Then when they are fired, they get an ambulance chasing, Chump like attorney to shakedown the company. In my experience, companies are very careful to not express their opinions about this in writing. Being retired, I can now lay it all out. .We were lucky to get one desirable employee out of ten hires.
To throw that back in your face how do you know these are the affirmative action ones?
What you saw was a fascistic show of force.
It may be tempting to think those aren’t the intelligent ones, but I think the way our school system is today is designed to make a lot of intelligent people fascistic.
There’s a tendency for the incompetent to bludgeon their way through if they have the chance to do so, because they can’t do well in conventional measures.
They aren’t so stupid that they don’t know this could be a career limiting move. They are all at least crafty, even if they don’t have good abstract reasoning skills. Why are they doing this? Likely the other avenue is foreclosed to them. They’re likely 2nd and 3rd year and already know other law students there are simply far more competent in legal skills.
It appears that the mob was multi-racial. The problem is not a lack of verbal skills, people who throw the F bomb repeatedly do it with calculation as the socially acceptable conduct in this situation, and not out of anger.
There are at least a few future Johnny Cochranes in that mob.
Do you think Johnny Cochrane or any prominent lawyer of any sort behaved that way in law school, or at any time after elementary school at the latest?
Thats what the schools and government and NGO’s are for.
Most tragically, the mentality exhibited by the hecklers is so deeply embedded already in nearly every facet of our society, these types will be the future of legal jurisprudence and corporations and governments, etc. . We are utterly doomed.
“It’s not a legitimate point of view!”
…says the future lawyer. James Madison weeps.
“We can’t have a bigot on campus” showed a remarkable lack of self awareness too.
If these schools were actually providing an education worth having, they would have these disruptors physically removed and disciplined with suspension and probation at the very least. But alas…
And prosecuted. And report them to the bar’s fitness committee.
The school should be doing that reporting, lest their accreditation be reviewed. But apparently accreditation of law schools is woke now. I believe LI had something on that topic within the past year.
Seemed more like a scene from the French Revolution’s Reign of Terror. Seems to me that the video is clear proof of violations of any student’s or lawyer’s code of conduct. Like borders, codes of conduct have to be enforced or there are no codes of conduct.
Back in my days at college, the administration would have posted officers around the room and physically ejected members of this unruly mob so that others could be educated. And likely expelled them afterward, as well.
When did rationality become unfashionable?
These days I would not be willing to be the officer charged with that job. Moving an unruly person, especially if that person is black and has support from the woke mob, can land you in prison for a variety of made-up nonsense, as we’ve seen juries convict in the past year or two.
There’s no control on these people. As the cops said quitting the Minneapolis PD after the Chauvin and Potter convictions, “you’re on your own”.
45 minutes?! I don’t understand this at all. Why is this allowed to happen? Why are the disrupters not immediately removed by security, and arrested if they resist? As for the ones who assaulted him, why were they not immediately arrested? Is he pressing criminal charges against them?
Then again I don’t understand how the whole “sit-in” thing worked in the ’60s and ’70s; why did the victims not immediately call the police and have all the offenders arrested and hauled off to jail? It’s what I would have done. And if that brought a bigger protest, I’d have those people arrested too, the moment they crossed over from peaceful protest to force.
ditto
You asked earlier why campuses have their own police instead of relying on the town police. This is all part and parcel of the same thing. Administrations prefer to treat “victimless” student unruliness as “learning experiences” instead of crimes in progress. They would rather straighten out the problem than give a student a permanent rap sheet.* Hence the advice reported by OldProf that at Harvard the rule was, call the campus cops, not the Cambridge cops. This is not a new stance — it was the same way at MIT as far back as the Woodstock era. The problem rises when you have a student rebellion and then decline to handle it at all — you allow the teachable moment without actually teaching anything. And that is where the strategy broke down in higher education, starting with the sit-ins in California that were just left to fester. This is how you get CHAZ in the real world.
*A favorite cultural example of mine is the story behind Steely Dan’s hit, “My Old School.” It’s about a drug bust by the town police at Bard College (NY) where the singers went. The students were bailed out by the school, but their girlfriends (who were not students there) spent the weekend “with the working girls in the county jail.” The damage done to the “hip” school’s reputation by Steely Dan’s revenge song was certainly something their recruiters would rather not have had to endure.
“Why are the disrupters not immediately removed by security, and arrested if they resist?”
Do you really want to know? As I have mentioned before, read the book “Cornell ’69” (https://www.amazon.com/Cornell-69-Liberalism-American-University/dp/0801478383/).
What happens if the thugs are punished in any way is that the leftist leaders recruit a large fraction of the student population to raise Cain. Given their BAMN strategy, they will escalate to and past the point of bloodshed.
The administration knows that they will have to capitulate eventually, so they capitulate preemptively.
It worked at Cornell in 1969, and it still works today.
The only other option available to the administration is to close the campus and send the children home. And they won’t do that for obvious financial reasons.
Did I explain this sufficiently? Have I missed something?
Administration doesn’t usually arrest their own goons.
Why!?……
Because the the pussification of America is just about complete.
All of these whinny ass brats that disrupted that gathering should’ve been bitch slipped, grabbed by the arm and SHOVED out the door!
Unfrickenbelievable….
I don’t think police will do that job for us anymore. Since we convicted Chauvin, Potter, even the guy with the camera videoing Arbery, they’ve gotten the message.
That’s why. We declared that we won’t back up our police. The police have heard it loud and clear.
Not a good look for recruiters.
Depends on what the recruiters are looking for.
Hastings has always been second rate among the law schools in California. I say that although I have lawyer friends who graduated from there. But there are or were (until Boalt Hall hired Erwin Chermerinsky as Dean) at least five other law schools in California that were clearly superior to Hastings–certainly as to the academic ability of their student bodies, and, to an extent to the quality of their faculties.
Sad to see that Hastings continues its tradition of “second rate”. Of course Kamala Harris is a Hastings grad–who had to take the bar exam twice before she passed.
Twice (sometimes more) is pretty much the norm, though, isn’t it? I’ve heard that people who pass the bar exam the first time are practically considered prodigies.
They aren’t prodigies. They have been taught the test. The California Bar Exam is not about the practice of law, but the ability to memorize a list of topics and spit it back.
One of the most important skills for a practicing lawyer is learning when to keep your mouth shut. You can decide for yourself who won over this episode.
My law review commendation is signed by Ear Warren, CJ of SCOTUS. We did not agree with much, but he respected the legal analysis ( I was still liberal but questioning) . Now I wonder what is happening.
Good for you. What happened? We’ve gone down the toilet, flushed by liberal (albeit questioning) legal analyses that left pathways for this garbage to take over.
A comment I made last night on this thread seems to have disappeared.
Comments are removed for numerous reasons, some of which have nothing to do with anything a particular commenter said. We do not permit ad hominem attacks on fellow LI readers, for example, so what happens is that any responses to that comment–in that thread–are then not deleted/spammed/flagged but end up unviewable because the original offending comment was removed due to a violation.
Other things that get comments removed: ad hominem attacks on our commenters (attack the idea, not the person), overtly racist or antisemitic comments, calls to violence (including urging another human being to take their own life), and other such comments that are beyond the pale.
If, after reading this, you feel that one of your comments was unjustly removed, just let us know.
Yes I know the policy. Such comments are never my style. Not in the years I’ve been here. I make some comments based simply on personal experience with the kinds of people this article is talking about.
likewise. I am wondering if dontions to the site would alleviate this problem?
I don’t beleive my reference to the aggresive drumming reminding me of an African ceremonial was at all racist
I apologize for the editorial errors:
donations, believe, aggressive
too much of a rush? too much anger at being deleted?
not enough coffee yet?
I think the important part of the explanation was that if one of the comments higher in the reply chain than yours was deemed objectionable, all responses to it, however benign, also get lopped off in the process.
Once they get us to apologize for “whiteness”, we can be enriched by these vibrant new cultural practices. They made the tables in the room vibrate!
And this is what fuels the racial division in this country. Not the speakers remarks, but the over reaction by the students. These college-educated kids actually believe that the color of their skin is their most important asset. Maybe it is in today’s clown world.
We need, as a country, to seriously reconsider what it means to be “college-educated.” It used to mean something to employers and to society, but what does it mean now?
It used to be a mark of quality, like “prime beef.”
Now it’s just a consumer warning, like “laxative effects if consumed in large doses.”
To throw the question back in your face this Egyptologist teaches at a seminary https://www.youtube.com/c/AncientEgyptandtheBible however he seems like a credible historian doesn’t he?
For non-stem majors that total of one biology course required, and that math course will both be forgotten a few months after taking them and leave zero impact on the overall education which is going through a leftism seminary.
But you do take traditional seminary graduates seriously right?
College like seminary takes a lot of hard work, it takes a lot of careful time management, it takes a lot of careful money management (a lot of college students work hard at their jobs to pay as they go) and for many colleges just getting in means you worked very hard to get there.
A better question than what does it mean could be how do we change colleges?
Activism seems more like a law-school thing. Perhaps these students have no disciplinary record and didn’t even behave this way in college.
In law school they felt very comfortable behaving like this.
The problem is the legal “profession”. They have done a lot to ruin the country already, and when these jerks reach mid-career and have some influence, they’ll look very conservative but their actions will be to torch our society.
Having a college degree — the paper — is not an indicator of the holder’s intelligence or actual knowledge. Not in these times. The degrees are too often “academic participation trophies”.
Its a sad state of affairs, but academia has done this to itself. Throw in AA and you have a huge group of people whose actual talent becomes suspect as the diplomas do not state “AA” or “ADW” (Actually Did the Work).
Toddlers will be running our country
will be?
Touche
Have you seen how Brandon walks?
Naughty children all. Send them to bed without their knowledge. Remember, when you punish the young, don’t take away what they value. Withhold what you value. Raising kids right requires that you invest in the “long game.”
They know this strategy. This is why the female at the end demanded they not be seen as “insignificant”. They’ll beat the hell out of people and property until you acknowledge them. And they’ve learned the way to reinforce that with legal threats, in law school.
They won’t just go away. They’re more aggressive and meaner, and just as big, as most adults. How will they be controlled? We need to go to a simpler society where their niche no longer exists. Then they’ll simmer but most will fall into line until their next opportunity to burst out aggressively.
This was a disgraceful act by the “students” depicted who are clearly hostile to the First Amendment and its values
SCOTUS decides what the first amendment means. Have their rulings made this sort of thing illegal?
This is why everyone hates lawyers.
Lawyer jokes used to be funny, at least back before Shakespeare’s time. (And I work for lawyers.) Now, not so much.
Shapiro is a great thinker and writer whose book on presidential nominations to the Supreme Court and the politics of confirmation in the Senate is fascinating reading
Each of these students should be expelled. Immediately. How can they litigate a civil society if they demonstrate they can not live it?
For the various commenters who wonder why the BSLA hecklers were not removed from the room — the administration didn’t want to do that. Why? Because 1) they are spineless 2) they don’t want to face the blowback from their fellow elites and 3) deep down, they agree.
And if you wonder how it is that the BSLA hecklers will be expected, in the future, to work, live, and litigate in a civil society and the law when they behave like this, it’s because they don’t expect to live in such a society. They want revolution, and this is one of the tactics one uses to get revolution.
;As in all cases of cancel culture, the best way to send a message is with your credit card-buy Shapiro’s books
Better yet, read them and pass them on to friends and family.
They demand safe spaces where they can throw rocks at others.
No wonder Putin thought it was the right time to invade Ukraine. Western countries are deep in advancing CRT. Men no longer want to be men. Reason and debate have left the academy.
Giving it to the mob never works. It simply emboldens them. An attempt to use a hecklers veto should be met with immediate arrest and removal. Let these activists be booked and cool their heels in jail while proceeding with the event. Require them to apologize and commit to the principles of free speech and academic inquiry before allowing them to return to campus. If they refuse, expel them and call in their loans.
A study of how Kent State went from a ‘sit-in’ to the National Guard being called to disperse a violent demonstration is a good study in promoting escalation by inaction.
Another ‘mostly peaceful protest’ in which buildings were burned down which could have been stopped by firm enforcement of the law prior.
I stopped watching shortly into that. Wow, out of control black female person there at the start.
Who but the blind can’t see the hate she is virtually overflowing with?
Let the man speak! Dammit. It is on the university to protect his right to speak, and the rights of those who would listen to his words. Shame on them and shame on the people in that lynch mob.
It is too late, I shudder to think what these people will become in just a few years.
I’m trying to figure out how a Constitutional law professor can support this–I see he doesn’t have the nerve to explain his position; I don’t know how these students expect to survive as lawyers, who essentially argue and negotiate for a living, if they can’t even manage to listen to a presentation they disagree with, much less debate the author.
Schools that tolerate the heckler’s veto should be blacklisted, and all outside speakers should refuse to speak there.
Can anyone answer why the campus police weren’t called to remove the disruptors?? Why didn’t Ratner do so?? He knew they were in violation of student conduct.
Part of why the legal guild continues to fail. No standards.
Nice “Heckler’s Veto” at play here. Some people are not serious about their education.
I think we need to have a national dialogue about Black Fragility and the increasingly infantile emotional response of blacks to things they don’t like.
A nursery school full of toddlers needing a diaper change would have treated him with more respect. This is a Law School?
Fortunately this will all live on the internet forever and all prospective employers can watch-and toss your applications in the trash.
They are the next generation of lawyers, stop feeding yourself the “MUH REAL WORLD” narrative Mr. Bush, we lost every institution with that narrative with a result that students today exert force as these do to prevent conservatives from speaking.
How about attack their fascism and their show of force instead?
So these are future lawyers? Is this how they are going to represent future clients? Let’s see how that goes over with a judge. I say, suspend them all.
“Among other things, activists demanded that faculty advisers “undergo intensive CRT training” and that CRT be “a grad requirement for all students””
Wait, I thought CRT wasn’t a thing?
https://www.dailywire.com/news/7-lying-media-outlets-claiming-crt-isnt-being-taught-in-public-schools
The SPEAKER was INVITED to SPEAK so why weren’t the PROTESTORS removed??? Simple as that! Now, reverse the situation and have any democrat/communist speaker. Let a small group of conservatives disrupt the event and see how quickly they are removed! But actually, the even would probably go unnoticed since not many self respecting conservatives would voluntarily subject themselves to ear raping!
It’s quite possible that the speaker was invited for the purpose of being ambushed.
He was invited before he was cancelled, setting up this demonstration that his cancelation had nation-wide effect.
Yes, the whole school is apparently infected with this.
If hearing views with which they disagree is so unbearable to these students, perhaps law is not exactly their most compelling career choice.
shut the school down…..drag the dean out onto the street and dump him. shut down fake academic programs like political, social, cultural and urban sciences……they are not sciences……they are folk fictional psychology. Psycology is folk fiction. History is folk fiction.
Who would do that? Most people at the school probably get a little thrill when they see this sort of thing. Certainly the administration didn’t help, didn’t order them out, didn’t reschedule to a different room with security around it, didn’t do a thing. So we see who runs the school.
I’d be real hesitatant to hire a graduate of that law school. They may know leftism and not law.
I DON’T GIVE A FK WHAT BIDEN DOES OR DOESN’T DO ANYMORE…….HE IS A TRAITOR.