Stacey Abrams: Americans Should ‘Legitimately Question’ the Election System
Unless you’re Donald Trump.
Georgia Governor Stacey Abrams apparently thinks it’s okay that Donald Trump and his supporters question and critique the 2020 election.
Abrams, who launched a campaign for a second term as Georgia governor, told Axios she has no regrets about not conceding her 2018 loss to Gov. Brian Kemp:
- She was asked during the interview whether a refusal to concede, as she did in 2018, emboldens former President Trump and his allies, who continue to question the integrity of the election system.
- “I don’t ever want us to be in a place as Americans where we cannot legitimately question and critique systems and try to make them better,” she said.
Oh, wait! Americans except for Trump:
- “What Trump has done is invalidate systems because he didn’t like the personal effect,” she said. “And he’s provided no information or proof of his allegations.”
- “I should be held accountable for everything I say, be able to tie it to evidentiary facts. And that’s what I’ve been doing. And that’s what I’ll continue to do.”
Abrams said 10 days after she lost to Kemp: “I will not concede because the erosion of our democracy is not right.”
Abrams started the Fair Fight Action organization after she lost to Kemp because she believes the Republicans stole the election from her. I doubt she ever showed evidence of voter suppression.
A judge threw out a lot of the complaints filed by Fair Fight Action.
The latest challenge has a narrow focus “on the state’s policy for matching voter registration information, also known as ‘exact match,’ the process for canceling an absentee ballot request when a voter shows up in person and voter list maintenance.”
I wonder what she will do when she fails to win in November.
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When the fat hits the fire.
Putin going crazy has but a damper on the antics of this bozo, and others like her:
Stacey Abrams serves on the board of the Center For American Progress, which has participated in exchanges with a premier Chinese Communist Party-linked propaganda organization for over a decade, even co-authoring reports with the group:
https://www.thethinkingconservative.com/stacey-abrams-on-board-of-group-collaborating-with-chinese-communist-party/
Not that she’s any diffferent than that rat, McConnell:
How Mitch McConnell is Hopelessly Compromised by Communist China:
https://www.conservativeworldnews.com/how-mitch-mcconnell-is-hopelessly-compromised-by-communist-china/
Speaking of being bought-off by Communist China, the wrong Feinstein assumed room temperature:
China Queen Dianne Feinstein Used Her Senate Power to Push Most-Favored-Nation Status for the CCP’s Corrupt Dictatorship:
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/lee-smith-china-coronavirus-1
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/17798739/richard-blum-dianne-feinstein-husband-death/
I am so sorry Mitch McConnell married someone from China so very very very very sorry, we can’t have that we need some kind of inquisition because of how he,well uh he, well when Obama he, well during the tax cuts he, well uh when he could have stopped Trump’s second bill he, oh when Trump put up nominees he, well when Trump asked him to undo his senate legacy (the sequester) he, oh well when Schumer tried to end the fillibuster he…..
Put up or shut up provide actual evidence for Mitch McConnell working for China (and no a wealthy person with assets in China proves his allegiance to China about as much as a wealthy Russian with assets in America would justify him being sent to the gulag) in some way, and that it is his wife who makes him do it or knock it off.
Furthermore provide evidence Stacey Abrams is the way she is (atrocious) because of China.
We need to contest the Asian vote and this “CHINA CHINA CHINA” stuff is off putting. If China or the CCP is involved in the story (it really isn’t in this one) go at it, if not shut up already.
Xi and Vladimir don’t give a dam about our internal politics.
The best jingoism is convincing a nation its a good place, claiming China is responsible for our current politics isn’t true, or persuasive. We aren’t in a foreign war we are in a political battle, our opponents don’t speak mandarin they speak english and our opponents are Americans not Chinese.
I want to give you many more upticks than I can. Thank you.
Thank you, I am glad we could agree.
Good post Danny.
Not really – he side steps the argument with some racial b.s, and sounds like Al Sharpton.
Ok, Danny. Here’s “put up”.
Your turn to refute:
https://plattecountylandmark.com/2021/02/12/mcconnells-ties-to-china/
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/biden-mcconnell-kahl-burns-china-parties-lee-smith
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/3122118/donald-trump-attacks-senate-republican-familys-substantial-chinese
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/06/elaine-chao-china-trip-foremost
https://www.newsweek.com/mitch-mcconnells-wife-elaine-chao-abused-office-help-family-firm-china-business-watchdog-found-1573653
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-mcconnell-and-china-11559590152
Yes, I follow Jim DeJarnatt-from-Weston’s letters to the editor of the Platte County Landmark in an absolutely religious fashion. Can get enough of Jim’s leavings. I wonder what his chosen profession is?
More poof than proof, …
There are Russians who have assets in America (and only the “oligarchs” had those assets frozen by sanctions) and the number of Chinese men and women with assets in America is an endless horde. Should a pair of dictators start purging their populations?
Proving McConnell has some assets in China (which frankly isn’t exceptional) and that his wifes family worked hard to become wealthy and are Chinese (there are many things wrong with China, a hard working family becoming wealthy and one of their daughters marrying an American isn’t among them) doesn’t prove he is under the thumb of the CCP.
None of your articles support the idea that China is behind the current state of our politics, neither do they prove McConnell is disloyal either to his country or to his party.
You tried to put up but you have absolutely nothing.
By the way you use Vanity Fair, when they do the same attacks on Trump I could assume you believe it right?
By the way Trump attacks are just lies, he also claims Mike Pence had the power to overturn the 2020 election.
Wasting your time. The squishes here are really bent over Trump again winning the CPAC vote yesterday. There is no Uniparty and only Democrats are corrupt. Peter Schweitzer’s “Red Handed” has been on NYT best seller’s list for a month and apparently no one here read it.
That is how the GOP continues to be “the Stupid Party”. Hopeless. Truth is never true.
“[S]he said[,] “And he’s provided no information or proof of his allegations.”
There were oodles and oodles of proof (which btw still exists in some places; in others the Ds destroyed it), but NO court would take evidence. All the challenging lawsuits were tossed, well before any evidentiary stage, on specious grounds.
And the USSC to its shame got in on the act. See Texas v. Pennsylvania,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._Pennsylvania
There WERE oodles and oodles of proof.
She thought they were noodles, and ate them.
Ukraine called. They need tanks.
My father-in-law raised pigs for food. Their last noises were similar to abrams…oink, oink, oink.
I raised a young pig from a litter which was too large. He was smart, cute and entertaining, all of which Abrams is not, she is hideous inside and out,
Stacey is more of a barricade.
More like a repellant.
She does kind of block out Atlanta’s skyline.
I don’t need this fat, ugly b*tch’s permission to keep pointing out that we haven’t had honest elections in a long time.
Question were the senate elections in 2020 legitimate
For the most part. Or rather, their results were much less suspect than the presidential election, and it’s likely that they had much less fraud. Why do you ask?
(I actually know why you ask, because I know you’re parroting a fallacious argument some Democrat shills made, based on the assumption that fraudulent votes would have all races marked.
There’s some sense to that, since if you’re going to the trouble of faking votes you might as well fill them in completely, but that’s only if you have plenty of time to do it. It ignores the possibility of the large-scale manufacture of votes at the last minute, or actually after the last minute, which is something the Democrat machine in certain counties is notorious for, and that the policy of accepting postal votes after the election made much much easier. When you have to churn out thousands of votes in a very short time, you only mark the races you’re most interested in, which in this case was the presidential race.
Runoff elections being a special case and a new opportunity for refocused fraud.
I don’t know of a good solution to that, since getting elected with theoretically 19% of the vote or less in a crowded field isn’t any better.
Why would you claim they had less fraud? Do you have any proof that there was enough fraud to flip any election?
If they could turn PA from a loss to a 2.8% win why wouldn’t they be able to turn VA into a win a year later?
Not a popular opinion on the right, but the idea that there wasn’t a single election flipped by fraud in 2020 is the only one supported by actual facts or data.
Why would I claim that the senate races had less fraud than the presidential race? I already said why. Because there is good reason to believe that a lot of fraudulent votes were manufactured after the election, when time was of the essence, and therefore they only marked the presidential race. Look at the large number of “president only” ballots. Sure, a good many of those are legitimate; but it stands to reason that a good many are not. Have you compared the number of such votes this year to their historical level? I haven’t, but that would be an interesting number to see.
I do not have proof that the fraud was enough to flip the presidential election, and I don’t think we will ever know that. I think its’ reasonable to suppose that it was enough to flip at least some states, and the ones with the narrowest margin for Biden are the most likely ones to have been so flipped. Georgia’s margin was small enough that it seems very likely that there were enough fraudulent votes to flip it; but identifying those votes one by one, and challenging each one individually, was an impossible task to do before the electors voted, and that’s what Trump did not understand.
I doubt it. Not that anyone is allowed to look at anything to truly find out. After all, you got the communist pedophiles you wanted, so why check it out?
Lol
Abrams, who is built like a tank, probably heavier than a tank, comes on strong. But the election results made clear she was made out of 4 layers blubber instead of 4 layers of homogeneous steel.
I hope Stacey Abrams total hypocrisy is enough to end the circular firing squad.
Stacey probably benefited from election fraud, but she still didn’t win.
Election fraud is an issue, but an easy way to fix the problem is to publish how many people voted at each address.
Note that there are addresses that legitimately have many voters, e.g. apartment buildings, and whatever address they use when a homeless person registers to vote (I think it’s usually the board of elections office address).
One of the really stupid mistakes made by the charlatans who pretended to have found the fraud in Georgia was to find addresses that house a mail box facility and also have many people registered, and jump immediately to the conclusion that those registrations must be fraudulent. Which is just pure amateur hour, and typical of the kooks whom the Trump camp put forward as “experts”.
The Democrats of course very easily debunked these claims, and used that to “prove” that there was no fraud and that there was no substance at all to the Trump complaints. Which is just as stupid and amateur as the mistakes the Trumpists made.
The fact is that there was almost certainly a large amount of fraud, and it’s likely that in Georgia there was enough to have change the result, but finding it isn’t nearly as easy as the Trumpist charlatans imagined.
The problem with trying to debunk the Dems claim is they had the same “I don’t have any proof but this state decided by well under 1% of the vote that put Trump into office in 2016 was…..”.
Trump’s side even recycled a computer science professor hacking what was supposedly voting software to prove the election was illegitimate in 2016.
It has been well nearly two years at this point, if there was state switching fraud anywhere it would already be known.
No, it wouldn’t be, because nobody is looking for it with the tools and resources necessary. There’s no point, since the result is already in and can’t be changed.
So how do we know Trump’s victory in 2016 wasn’t the result of fraud? Simple. We know that fraud works overwhelmingly in one direction. We know that because both parties are convinced that it’s so, and we can trust them to know their business. When Dems fight tooth and nail to make fraud easy, while Reps fight just as hard to make it difficult, we know that both believe fraud helps the Dems and hurts the Reps.
(And this is all besides the “non-electoral” fraud, i.e. the fraud that involves manipulating the voters rather than the votes. The Dems don’t even bother denying that, and it was enough to turn what should have been a landslide into something close enough for them to steal.)
Virginia has a photo-id requirement, PA has one, as does WI.
The reason we know 2016 wasn’t fraud is because you can’t just declare an election result you don’t like in Wisconsin didn’t happen.
What you called non-electoral fraud……when compared to censorship in the United States none of it comes anywhere near 1% as important.
Virginia has a photo-id requirement, PA has one, as does WI. Voter ID is good, but it only prevents one kind of fraud, which historically has not been the most significant kind, and was even less significant in 2020. It doesn’t help with postal votes. Nor does it help with ineligible voters. Nor does it help with ballot stuffing, votes run towards the end of the day (or even after the polls have closed) for people who didn’t vote, etc.
And of course it doesn’t help in Dem-controlled precincts where they don’t have any Rep poll workers, and don’t allow Rep poll watchers, and the Dems don’t check ID, or allow people to vote when their ID doesn’t match.
Voter ID is good, but it only prevents one kind of fraud, which historically has not been the most significant kind, and was even less significant in 2020. It doesn’t help with postal votes. Nor does it help with ineligible voters. Nor does it help with ballot stuffing, votes run towards the end of the day (or even after the polls have closed) for people who didn’t vote, etc.
And of course it doesn’t help in Dem-controlled precincts where they don’t have any Rep poll workers, and don’t allow Rep poll watchers, and the Dems don’t check ID, or allow people to vote when their ID doesn’t match.
Huh? I don’t even understand that. What censorship? And the non-electoral fraud was massive, worth at least 20 points.
Just like the kids who hate living at their parents house, this pig should leave the country for one she likes.
Of course they many not like her.
Voter fraud was real in many places. One of the easiest is to have operatives go to Memory Care units, mental facilities, nursing homes and harvest ballots from people who don’t even know what day it is and think they’re voting for Eisenhower. Going door to door in poor areas with ballots and dollars to get folks to vote. Who may or may not be registered. See the pattern here. I have seen all of these practices in action for years. COVID gave them an excuse to ramp it up to unheard of levels.
Yes, exactly. That’s where the fraud is, and it’s very difficult to find it. Much easier to make up wild stories of truckloads of ballots being shipped from China or somewhere, or about the voting machines being tampered with; but when those stories are proved false, the Dems claim that this means they’ve been vindicated and there was no fraud.
Moe was right. So was Larry and Curly. Biden is a bigger stooge than all three of them put together. And if we don’t do something about voter fraud we are the biggest stooge of all.
Forget the pres election. The first fraud of 2016 happened in South carolina when slow Joe came from nowhere. I point that out to the Bernie Boys whenever possible, to dampen their excitement over Trump being eliminated.
‘A judge threw out a lot of the complaints filed by Fair Fight Action.‘
I am sure our reaction to that when a TDS drenched lib make that observation would be a bit different. IMO that above can never be a valid counter.
Whenever I hear politicians (the least trustworthy people in the country) talk about removing any and all controls and safeguards from our voting laws in the name of furthering “democracy,” what they really mean is that they want to rig the voting laws to favor their favorite ways of cheating to ensure they stay in power for as long as possible.
Yes, of course. The laws were far too loose to start with. Loosening them even further can only be motivated by a desire to make cheating easier, and is proof that the party seeking to do so is in fact engaged in cheating. The problem is that’s not the sort of proof that any court can accept in order to challenge a result.
Says the fantasy gov of Georgia only after she’s sure her party is about to get it backside handed to it.
I don’t want to put words in her mouth, but what I think ol’ Stacey is saying is: If republicans lose, you are an insurrectionist if you question elections; but if democrats lose, it is legitimate to just make sure everything is right.
There is no way to put words in her mouth. It’s full of food.
Ms. Abrams – I agree, and I do question the election system, because you and your fellow Democrats have done your level best to ensure that it reports false results. In December 2021, Mr. Biden said, “It’s about who gets to count the vote and whether your vote counts at all.”
You and your fellow Democrats knew that at least as far back as when Lyndon Johnson began to discover missing, uncounted ballots in Alice, Tx. Perhaps y’all had been finding “missing” ballots before LBJ, but he brought into big-time practice.
Then, in 2020, you took it nation-wide.
So, yes indeed, I don’t trust the election system. Until we have a system that requires everyone to vote using paper ballots, with our thumbs dipped in indelible ink, and everyone has to prove they’re entitled to vote with a picture ID, which everyone can get with little inconvenience, the election system will produce fraudulent results.
“Perhaps y’all had been finding “missing” ballots before LBJ, but he brought into big-time practice.”
Do the name “Richard Daley” ring a familiar note, Andy?
Or William (Boss) Tweed?
And of course there were some notorious Republican election fraudsters, too. (Somebody please help me think of one.)
And if you think your private guns will ever help you resist a tyrannical government, think again. Because your local political machine has nukes, ‘n’ F-15s, ‘n’ stuff. (You may note that this was also, by some inconceivable coincidence, a mob of Democrats.)
You have exactly the same proof that 2020 had enough fraud to flip any election that Stacey Abrams has that she won in 2018 and had it stolen from her; none whatsoever.
Chuck Schumer is overjoyed for you to tell Republicans to stay home however.
I hope she loses in November, but I have no confidence in Georgia.
Brunswick Georgia, way in the southern part of the state, convicted three guys of murdering a burglar (Arbery) when a gun went off they were fighting over. One of them was some distance away and just capturing video. They seem to have the most shamed whites anywhere in the country.
This bloated beached whale needs to seriously accept the election results as she lost it! Even with all of the democrat fraud ballots!
just another black socialist bigot. marked meat.