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Ottawa Police Use Physical Force to Arrest Great-Grandfather, 78, for Honking in Support of Freedom Convoy

Ottawa Police Use Physical Force to Arrest Great-Grandfather, 78, for Honking in Support of Freedom Convoy

“Charlebois was taken down with the twisting of his arm and hand, and landed on one knee on the ground before being pressed against his van and then, with the help of a second officer, handcuffed behind his back.”

The Ottawa and Canadian government might have lost a lot of support against the Freedom Convoy truckers because video caught police arresting an old man.

Ottawa’s mayor declared a state of emergency while the police forbid anyone from using air horns or car horns on a specific street until February 16.

A new video shows Ottawa police using physical force against Gerry Charlebois, a 78-year-old grandfather who stands at 4’10”, because he honked at the truckers:

“What did he do wrong?” a bystander asks the officer, who initially snaps, “None of your f—ing concern, man.”

“It’s an offense — it’s an offense to beep your horn. It is,” the officer later tells a group heckling him for “abusing old men.”

Charlebois, who was wearing pajama pants at the time, was eventually marched away in cuffs by two officers who towered over him.

Loudmouths Ottowa Mayor Jim Watson and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau have not said anything about Charlbois’s arrest.

I don’t even know why the police officer even arrested him instead of giving him a ticket. Charlebois was not even a demonstrator or participant of the protest!

Charlebois gave the officer a piece of his mind as he tried to get his wallet out of the van.

Can you blame Charlebois for fighting back? He ended up with a $118 ticket for “unnecessary noise.”

Charlebois told The Toronto Sun he “meant no harm.” He gave one “trucker a thumbs-up and a honk.”

The father of four, grandfather of 11, and great grandfather of four is “so sore” and his body “hurts so much.”

Charlebois’ family said you can see cuts and bruises on his arms, hands, shoulders, and knees:

“I was in shock,” Charlebois said. “When (the police) pulled me over, he told me I was in trouble for honking the horn.”

While the video shows he cussed at the officer, Charlebois said he respects police “but I was just upset with him.” He said he had never before been arrested or on the wrong side of police.

“Never,” he said. “He just pissed me off when he said that about the honking. It upset me.”

Things deteriorated from there.

After attempting to get his identification from his wallet in the back of his minivan, Charlebois was taken down with the twisting of his arm and hand, and landed on one knee on the ground before being pressed against his van and then, with the help of a second officer, handcuffed behind his back.

Those Ottawa police officers are so tough and brave in arresting Charlebois. That fact upset his son Gerald the most:

“I find it disgusting,” Gerald said. “There was no need to be so rough with him.”

With a “very messed-up shoulder” and having difficult moving his arm, Steve said of his dad: “We may have to take him to the hospital for an X-ray.”

On Tuesday morning, Gerald said he was “more sore today than yesterday.”

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Not enough melanin for liberals to care. Certainly.

A thug-tastic moment for the wanker coppers. The Inner Party members should be proud of their “law” enforcement. That the cops don’t understand what they are really doing shows either malice or stupidity… or both. If the unarmed can be executed in the Capitol and the bent cops praised for it… what’s a little mayhem above the border by fellow travelers? Justice will not only be delayed but forgotten for those oppressed. Travel in Canada at your own risk… neither Canadian nor US officials care…only the true citizens do.

This is what fascists do. The police become thugs for putting citizens in their place.

    CommoChief in reply to irv. | February 9, 2022 at 5:41 pm

    This is only the first of likely more escalations and provocations by Canadian officialdom to come. Reports yesterday of child services being deployed and weaponized v the trucker convoy and their supporters.

lord–what sort of punk(with a badge or not) gets physical with a 4′ 11″, 78 year-old, unarmed grandfather?–over a misdemeanor?

evidently some canadian law officers lack even rudimentary training–fortunately not the case with the canadian military–among the most professional, effective warriors on the planet

put this officer on a desk job away from the public

That’s a few days old
Just saying…

I know, he’s so little they should be embarrassed.
The video shows the filmed egging the police on however but they were too dumb to see it… or care

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to gonzotx. | February 9, 2022 at 6:38 pm

    Some huge monster of 5ft 6 would show them up, so they chose a frail old man.

    I’m not at all surprised.

Subotai Bahadur | February 9, 2022 at 5:52 pm

OK, the ukase by the Coercive Forces of State Power specifically banned “using air or train horns”. The only source for the honk that the great grandfather admittedly made was as far as I can tell the horn on the van that he was driving. A car horn. Car horns work on the principle of a vibrating metal diaphragm. They are all electrically driven and consist of a solenoid (electromagnet) and a thin metal disc made of spring steel. They are not either an air horn or a train horn. So he did NOT violate the admittedly poorly written decree.

But this is Canada which does not have a Bill of Rights [the Charter of Rights and Freedoms of 1982 contains exemptions that mean the government can do as it pleases], and where I expect that the police have immunity from lawsuits.

Being in fact innocent of breaking the specific law you are charged with breaking is no defense there.

Subotai Bahadur

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to Subotai Bahadur. | February 9, 2022 at 6:54 pm

    “But this is Canada…”

    Oh, please. Our cops would do the very same thing.

    I generally agree – often heartily – with your comments, but, in this case, I don’t. No downticks over it, but I still think the police would Obey Orders no matter what country.

      Agree completely. And, your comment underscores how incredibly unusual it was when quite a few county sheriffs told governors in several blue states that under no uncertain terms, were they going to enforce those insane, draconian (and likely unconstitutional) edicts they enacted, like closing parks and forcing people to wear masks, even outdoors. Those sheriffs were notable because….there were so few of them. The rest just blindly followed these horribly fascist commands.

There is a reason he was treated as though he were a slave.

Gimme a break. He was well on his way to a just getting a ticket until the little moron let the instigator with the camera convince him he could just leave. And then he was *gasp* put in handcuffs.

    Isolden in reply to Chewbacca. | February 9, 2022 at 8:18 pm

    Regardless of what bystanders are saying, the cop should do what he can to de-escalate the situation and he did not. He manhandled that little old guy very roughly – and he knew he was being filmed doing it and did not care. What would the cop have done if he wasn’t filmed? Shoot the guy? Don’t defend him.

      The Gentle Grizzly in reply to Isolden. | February 10, 2022 at 6:16 am

      Maybe not shoot, but, some older folks have brittle bones. It’d be real easy for the cop to REALLY teach that trouble-making revolutionary a lesson he won’t forget!

    DaveGinOly in reply to Chewbacca. | February 9, 2022 at 9:05 pm

    Puh-leese. Police use cameras for traffic enforcement and send tickets to the the registered owners of the cars that are photographed. In this country, commissioned personnel then review the photos and issue the tickets through a computerized system linked to the automobile registration database. (My point being that the officer and the citizen don’t even have to be in the same place at the same time in order for a ticket to be issued.) If the old man’s van was there (it was), they could have run the registration and sent the ticket to him. Or they could have written the ticket and put it on his windshield as is done with parking offenses.

      The Gentle Grizzly in reply to DaveGinOly. | February 10, 2022 at 6:18 am

      Perhaps so. But, where’s the fun in that? And, doing that precludes any great station house locker room yarns bound to get a good laugh.

    CommoChief in reply to Chewbacca. | February 10, 2022 at 12:30 pm

    A ticket or citation for what specific offense? The noise ordinance/order was imposed against air horns and train horns. His normal car horn doesn’t meet that definition.
    Instead what likely happened is a LEO was overzealous in attempting to apply the air/train horn rule v a normal horn. That’s the predicate for the incident. Then the citizen decided not to show his ID. However, due to lack of legal predicate, IMO, it’s tough cookies for LEO. Then they decided to manhandle the elderly citizen. Another bad decision by LEO.

    So in sum we have LEO, incorrectly at best and illegally at worst, substituting their own flawed interpretation of the horn rule as a pretext followed by incorrectly asking for ID which the citizen due to pretext stop refused then LEO decided to physically restrain the citizen. All because the LEO either didn’t understand the limits of his authority to enforce the horn rule v normal horns or willingly and knowingly chose to US it as a pretext to harass a citizen.

There is a common almost universal misconception about Law Enforcement Officers that they as a group are dedicated to protect and serve the public. That when TSHTF they got your back and will not allow themselves to be used as the enforcement arm of a corrupt government and its officials. Reality is when push comes to shove and they are ordered to do something, they will be the ones doing the pushing and shoving.

    TX-rifraph in reply to Alma4613. | February 9, 2022 at 8:01 pm

    I suspect that the selection process favors the obedient types. Some independent types slip through and are eventually labeled as “troublemakers.”

      DaveGinOly in reply to TX-rifraph. | February 9, 2022 at 9:13 pm

      Oh, absolutely. And they weed out the honest candidates for commissions. I’ve seen it happen in a well-respected police organization for which I once worked (for nearly ten years). In the instance I personally witnessed, a cadet (in whom considerable money had already been invested, because he was considered such a valuable candidate that he was re-cycled rather than wash him out of training – they really wanted to commission him) told the truth during an investigation in which the truth ran counter to the official narrative. Within a few days of his testimony he was released for no cause. (Literally – cadets can be released “for no cause.” Not for a cause they don’t reveal. If you get dumped and ask why, they will actually tell you “no cause” and refer you to the terms of your employment.)
      This guy was such a straight arrow that when I suggested to him that he got canned for telling the truth, he was shocked by the suggestion. The possibility hadn’t occurred to him.

        The Gentle Grizzly in reply to DaveGinOly. | February 10, 2022 at 6:54 am

        Your cadet may have made it in the days when Police were there to maintain peace and order in a community. Now, they are there to enforce the law – no matter how petty – or to enforce “orders” sent down from the city fathers.

    CommoChief in reply to Alma4613. | February 9, 2022 at 8:46 pm

    Some for sure would willingly carry out oppressive orders. Not all though, not by a long way. Unfortunately for all of us the percentage of those LEO willing to trample the citizen in their eagerness to please superiors or who chose to be LEO precisely because they derive pleasure in wielding authority seems to be increasing.

    IMO, where you have LEO who are well paid with good benefits, well trained, both initially and through rigorous sustainment training with strong leadership and supervision then LEO are less likely to become devotees of a ‘badge and gun’ or Cops v everyone else mentality. If your local PD doesn’t meet those guidelines you may have a future issue if left unaddressed.

      DaveGinOly in reply to CommoChief. | February 9, 2022 at 9:18 pm

      “Unfortunately for all of us the percentage of those LEO willing to trample the citizen in their eagerness to please superiors or who chose to be LEO precisely because they derive pleasure in wielding authority seems to be increasing.”
      This is due to the corruption of police training. Instead of instilling a sense of service, obligation, and a readiness to sacrifice, they now instill a creed that considers office safety paramount, that necessarily paints the citizens (those the officer should be serving) as enemies worthy of suspicion and for whom they should have no trust. Citizens are then (not surprisingly) treated in a manner that is consistent with the training.

        CommoChief in reply to DaveGinOly. | February 9, 2022 at 10:21 pm

        Agreed about the over emphasis officer safety. That’s not to say precautions aren’t warranted; armor, body and dash cams, a range of restraints including anti spitting hoods are all good ideas. Policing can be dangerous but focusing nearly exclusively on officer safety while minimizing the impacts on citizens is out of hand.

        An example would be the request for three separate warrants to find Locke. LEO then demanded, according to reports, no knock warrants and chose a dynamic entry resulting in LEO shooting to death a citizen who was asleep a few seconds earlier.

        Why does the PD feel justified in not presenting an accurate warrant? Requesting multiple warrants indicates LEO doesn’t know where the subject is so how is that a ‘particular description of the person, place to be searched’? It’s not, how can it be if LEO can’t choose one location?Unfortunately this lazy level of Intel gathering has become routine. LEO submit, IMO, unjustifiable warrants which Judges are all too quick to approve.

        The war on drugs futility and similar expansion of powers and techniques at the Federal level post Patriot act along with continued use of civil asset forfeiture are creating a militarized LEO. Give a person more tools and techniques and the mindset changes to incorporate them from rare to routine.

      “Some for sure would willingly carry out oppressive orders. Not all though, not by a long way.”

      All of them who are aware that oppressive orders are being carried out have a moral duty to stop that. Don’t stop it? You are complicit.

        CommoChief in reply to SDN. | February 10, 2022 at 11:46 am

        The LEO who blindly follow orders are complicit absolutely. However, so is the electorate which elects the LEO’s political masters who allow or encourage the attitude of Cops v everyone else. Whether the electorate does so because it largely agrees with heavy handed tactics and the adversarial attitudes of such policies or simple inattention or apathy the results are the same.

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to Alma4613. | February 10, 2022 at 6:21 am

    I went to school with kids who were the offspring of survivors of Germany’s little experiment with the New World Order.

    One said, “Never trust the police! Sure, they will smile at you on the street. They will eat in your restaurant, shop in your store. They will bring you their broken radio sets to mend. All smiles!

    “Then, they receive their orders. You were “Herr Rubenstein” last week as they smiled. This week you are “Jew!” a they scream “raus! RAUS!” and push you into the trucks at the point of a bayonet.”

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to Alma4613. | February 10, 2022 at 6:55 am

    They are there to keep the peasantry in line, among other things.

    In some towns, the drunken son of a “pillar of the community” gets in a crash, he gets a courtesy ride home. The kid whose father is a machinist or carpenter does not.

Meanwhile in Washington State:

TCSO and the Lacey Police Department responded to a robbery with a gun at Mobil, 9410 Martin Way. The suspect was a white male in his 30s, 5’8, thin build, dressed all in black, and armed with a semi automatic handgun.
Deputies responding to the scene observed a pickup truck fleeing the area of the robbery. Deputies observed it traveling at speeds in excess of 100 mph on Martin Way. They attempted to stop the driver, but he refused to pull over and accelerated to speeds of 120 mph on I-5. Due to restrictions, they were directed to terminate.
Update 4:35 am – Deputies have determined that the pickup truck that fled from them was involved in the robbery. License plate AAN3134.

    Andy in reply to Andy. | February 9, 2022 at 8:57 pm

    BTY “terminate” is not the T1000 sort of terminate, it’s wave at the criminal as they speed away at 100 MPH while flipping the cops off.

    DaveGinOly in reply to Andy. | February 9, 2022 at 9:25 pm

    That’s actually due to a concern for public safety. When there’s been no serious physical harm, police will terminate a high speed pursuit when traffic conditions and speed become factors (both increasing the potential harm of a collision). The sergeant monitoring the pursuit can order the termination, or it can be terminated on the judgment of the officers involved in the pursuit. It’s not that they won’t try to make an arrest at a later time. I do get your point. However, they were almost certainly not told to terminate based on “restrictions” if you’re suggesting that post-BLM riot restrictions had anything to do with this. The termination of pursuits under the conditions you describe goes back a good 15 or 20 years.

      No IT IS NOT out of a concern for public safety. This is the law in Washington. If it was due to safety, the legislature would have kept in the discretion of the officers in pursuit. It’s ABSOLUTELY in favor of pro-criminal activities- just like everything else in Washington state right now. Since this law went into effect, its been Grand Theft Auto. There’s between 2-10 of these per day in Thurston County alone.

      Also in Wa: Criminal syndicates are commandeering vacant homes and running crime rings of them. This happened across the street from the house I grew up on and it took the new owner 7 months to get them out of there. Meanwhile they ran a chop shop and drug operation out of. Car thefts and drug mules were tracked back to the house. One of the mules stole a car, ran it into the ditch and wasn’t taken into jail… just set loose.

      The legislature is working to de-criminalize more of the hard drugs that are fueling this epidemic. At the same time be damn sure they’ve got about 5 anti 2A bills working their way to Inslee’s desk.

No attempt at being condescending folks.
But perhaps recent developments in Australia, New Zealand and now Canada sheds light upon why our founding fathers stepped away from the British model and placed individual freedoms first and foremost in the new republic? And these events illustrate the stark contrasts between our systems focus based on individual freedoms and theirs much less so. They do not have a Constitution with defined rights of the citizenry.
Our system is a long way from perfect and officials, elected or otherwise, trample on those enumerated rights at times and frequently get away with grievous and callous acts. But in the long run we may hold them to account for those acts.
Stand firm in defense of our freedoms; they are the just about the best we can hope for in our world today filled with despots big and small.

    Back in grade school I always thought- whew- thank goodness they got all 13 colonies to agree, even though they bitterly hated each other in so many ways. Like a person in a miserable long term marriage, one can’t help but day dream of whether the “other” recalcitrant colonies would have chosen a freer and more concrete form of government.

      SDN in reply to Andy. | February 10, 2022 at 6:20 am

      Most of the “other” colonies wanted to expand the ability to own slaves. Day dream is right.

        Andy in reply to SDN. | February 10, 2022 at 11:35 am

        You mean they wanted to expand a centuries old legal practice that was common and used all over the world in the 1700s? SHOCK! A practice that in due time was abolished everywhere else in the world by the end of the 1800s without slaughtering a few 100k of the countries best men? A practice which was abolished elsewhere w/out other countries going to war on their neighboring countries for?

        So fast forward- this “marriage” entitled the northern spouse to declare war on their southern spouse over practices that they deemed repugnant. No other countries were going to war to end slavery and it REALLY wasn’t about slavery as we know full well most northerners didn’t give 2 shits about black people and most southerners didn’t own slaves. It was about the north’s self proclaimed right to impose its will on the south. This is something those colonies suspected would happen but hated England enough to sign on.

        Replace slavery with the next thing the northern spouse finds repugnant (speech, a babies right to life, gun ownership, coal, climate change, cows)… they’ll use the force of violence again and feel quite virtuous about it. You fill in the blank and they’ll use tyranny to impose it.

        Seems to me they would have been better off simultaneously declaring independence and brokering aid from the French to remain independent.

        I’ll remind you that in the war of 1812, the north pretty well fucked the south and left them to fend for themselves in a presidential move about as well executed as sleepy Joes Afganistan withdrawl (White House on fire….) . If it hadn’t been for the guy on the 20 dollar bill kicking ass and taking names in the south – we’d be British again).

        Yep- I can day dream and I’m not locked into the stories told by the victors.

iirc his horn was a bulb type mounted to his walker.
2nd amendment matters here.

This arrest reminds me of the Karen Garner Incident in Loveland Co. The 72yo grandmother had her shoulder dislocated and her wrist broken with a similar amount of force applied. In the aftermath four officers lost their jobs, two were charged with felonies and the City of Loveland paid out three million dollars. In the age of video, police need to train on how to interact when dealing with seniors and the disabled. Hopefully these officers will. be dismissed from their jobs.

taurus the judge | February 10, 2022 at 10:29 am

We should actually be happy about this. ( but not for the reasons many think)

This is documented clear and convincing evidence that much of our govt has gotten totally out of hand ( leaning toward totalitarianism).

They got this power because for a long time, people thought it was impossible, not real, conspiracy theory or were secure in their beliefs about it being impossible.

We need a good wake up kick in our complacency before its too late and this serves as one.

But if we do not affirmatively and aggressively ACT to accompany the changes and right the wrongs before they become fully entrenched- we will be the sheeple who are voting with the wolves on the choice for dinner.

The left has proven they hold us in utter contempt and have no reservations whatsoever- we better wake up and start affirmatively dealing with it.

Remember, the left didn’t “steal” or defeat their way into power- the right either slept through it or lied ourselves into a false sense of security or just plain denial. (excluding the rino element who sold us out)

I don’t even know why the police officer even arrested him instead of giving him a ticket. Charlebois was not even a demonstrator or participant of the protest!

The police stopped Charlebois for honking his horn. We can argue all day as to whether the courts should have mandated that horn honking was suddenly illegal, but that is not the issue.

Whether we like it or not, the police had a legitimate reason to stop Charlebois.

Charlebois refused to identify himself. He went to the back of the vehicle to get his ID, but after the agitation and escalation of the camera person, he puts the ID away and tries to walk away. In most US states, failure to ID while driving is an arrestable offense.

When the police go to take Charlebois into custody, he begins to fight and pull away. That is a charge of resisting arrest.

This is the same stuff that so called “sovereign citizens” pull all the time. They speed, don’t have tags, etc., and when they will not produce ID and fight the police, they claim they were arrested or “kidnapped” for a traffic violation.

Charlebois was not arrested for the honking of his horn. He was arrested for failure to ID and resisting.

    reverendken in reply to gitarcarver. | February 10, 2022 at 12:19 pm

    As Franklin said: “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

      I am going to assume that you think that the gentleman was exercising some “essential liberty.”

      Can you please elaborate what that “essential liberty” would be in this case?

      As I said, we can discuss whether the horn blowing injunction is legal or proper given its breadth and the fact the judge said “Tooting a horn is not an expression of any great thought I’m aware of,” shows a lack of understanding by the judge. But the time to fight that is in court – not on the streets.

      Most state laws (and I am assuming Canada) have laws that when you agree to get a license to drive a car, you must identify when the police stop you for an infraction.

      If you want to say that the man shouldn’t have to do that as it is an “essential liberty” that he not identify himself, then your anger should be directed at the man and not the cops because he was the one who agreed to the provision to identify when legally stopped.

      So what “essential liberty” are you talking about?

    I was watching the video and my husband who could only hear the audio asked: Is that one of those sovereign citizens videos? The guy with the camera escalated the situation and should have just recorded and kept his mouth shut. Let it play out and document the incident.

      That’s how I see it as well. The man agreed to show the cops his ID and was getting it until the camera operator started chiming in and yelling.

      Still, to reiterate the point, the OP’s statement that the man was arrested for honking his horn is false.

      That being said, I have many more issues with this video of a guy in a truck that was stopped.

      https://youtu.be/gA_4LoqFXl8

      Here is seems that the cops delayed and unnecessarily escalated the situation. When the driver is waiting for the cop in the rear to do something, he is calm and cool. You never hear him yelling. If the time is correct, 20 minutes is too long and unreasonable to write a ticket for whatever infraction the man allegedly did.

      When the cops back into his truck, that is on them and they should be accountable for that.

The truckers should stage a bunch of elderly black woman honking like mad….and then be belligerant about the arrest. On cue, whip the cameras out as soon as the rough stuff starts.

ROSA PARKS.

Yep- they staged that one brilliantly.

These are the type of cops that should not make it thru their shift….

It may have been ridiculous to arrest this guy, wish the video began sooner.
But, having said that, I don’t see excessive force being used. The little old man did struggle some.
But I love the “trucker” movement and hope the U.S. is able to pull it off without any “insurrectionist” activity by others. I plan to join the U.S. convoy through by state.

This incident left a very bad taste in my mouth. It would have been very easily avoided if the police would have treated the gentleman with respect and explanations for the detainment and for the charge. If Canada has an equivalent to the USA First Amendment to the US Constitution, I hope is is used to bring down all those that would impose such tyrannical actions.

Has the Canadian government forgotten the first stanza or their National Anthem, “What is the first line of the Canadian National Anthem?

“O Canada, we stand on guard for thee. God keep our land glorious and free! O Canada, we stand on guard for thee. O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.”

Do Canadian cops get more violent when egged in by a girly-man PM?