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New NYC Mayor Supports Bill Allowing Non-Citizens To Vote In Municipal Elections

New NYC Mayor Supports Bill Allowing Non-Citizens To Vote In Municipal Elections

Mayor Eric Adams: “I believe that New Yorkers should have a say in their government, which is why I have and will continue to support this important legislation”

Radical leftists in New York City have been trying to pass a bill that will allow non-citizens to vote in municipal elections.  The bill does not permit voting in state-wide or national elections.

After initially voicing reservations about the bill (and suffering significant pushback over his hiring choices), NYC’s new mayor Eric Adams (D) now supports the controversial bill.

The New York Post reports:

Mayor Eric Adams said Saturday he supports a controversial bill to allow hundreds of thousands of non-citizens living in New York City to participate in local elections.

Adams said in a statement he has and will continue to support the measure despite initially having “some concerns.”

The City Council approved the “Our City, Our Vote” measure in December, despite concerns from more than a dozen lawmakers, former Mayor Bill de Blasio and some constitutional experts.

The bill granted approximately 800,000 legal, non-citizen residents — such as green card holders and recipients of deferred action — the right to vote in municipal contests, but not state or federal elections.

“I believe that New Yorkers should have a say in their government, which is why I have and will continue to support this important legislation,” Adams said in a statement Saturday.

“While I initially had some concerns about one aspect of the bill, I had a productive dialogue with my colleagues in government that put those concerns at ease. I believe allowing the legislation to be enacted is by far the best choice, and look forward to bringing millions more into the democratic process,” the Democrat continued.

The New York Post clarifies for which positions legal non-citizens will be able to vote beginning in 2023: “Undocumented immigrants remain unable to cast local ballots under the new law, which gives legal non-Americans the right to vote for mayor, comptroller, public advocate, borough president, council member, or local ballot initiatives.”

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Another idiot

    amwick in reply to gonzotx. | January 10, 2022 at 7:44 am

    He made a speech after visiting an injured LEO… He said he was “undetermined” when he meant to say undeterred. He is not a smart guy, good luck NYC..

I’m sure that plenty of illegals will be given the wrong ballot and use it to vote

    Milhouse in reply to buck61. | January 10, 2022 at 12:32 am

    Illegals who try register to vote under this law will not be given any ballot. Any illegal who’s willing to risk registering illegally is already voting, and therefore this law won’t affect them.

    This law affects only legal immigrants, who are law-abiding and therefore have not registered until now.

      henrybowman in reply to Milhouse. | January 10, 2022 at 1:15 am

      With a little work, I can pull up a story that (I think) goes back to the Obama administration, where illegal aliens in California, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia testify to the reporter that they were “inadvertently” registered when applying for driver’s licenses at the state DMV, and assured by the clerk that it was all just part of the process; and that they voted based on these assurances.

      In the meanwhile, I found this one, and a lawyer’s statement very adequately explaining the “trap” and how blue states use it to “inadvertently” register illegals. You can be assured this will now happen in New York.

        henrybowman in reply to henrybowman. | January 10, 2022 at 1:30 am

        Here you go. This is either the article I remember, or very, very close to it. And the cherry on top is that it’s from NPR.

        Milhouse in reply to henrybowman. | January 10, 2022 at 10:41 am

        You missed the point. Those people are already voting, because there is no security and the risk of being caught is minimal. This new law does not affect that at all. It can neither increase nor decrease the number of aliens (legal or illegal) who are voting illegally.

        BTW, don’t assume that those few aliens who are caught voting illegally, and claim they didn’t know and were registered “inadvertently” are telling the truth. It’s a very easy excuse to make, impossible to disprove, and therefore gets them out of criminal charges.

        Which is something they can take into account when first making the deliberate decision to register illegally. First of all the chance of being caught is minimal, and if you do get caught all you have to say is that nobody told you you had to be a citizen, and you didn’t read/understand the written note to that effect.

For those of you who thought that there was anything less leftist about this guy than the former mayor.

Legal aliens today, illegal aliens tomorrow. Will somebody slap that camel’s nose before the whole animal gets in the tent?
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These non-citizens will vote and not even be aware of it.

If non citizens can vote why not non residents?

    TX-rifraph in reply to ghost dog. | January 9, 2022 at 7:47 pm

    Computers cast lots of votes.

    Why not people residing in other nations? Why not cats and dogs?

    Milhouse in reply to ghost dog. | January 10, 2022 at 12:34 am

    Because they don’t have to obey NYC laws or pay its taxes, so they have no legitimate interest in making those laws and setting those taxes. Legal residents of the city do.

      Milwaukee in reply to Milhouse. | January 10, 2022 at 6:43 pm

      When a person goes to a foreign country, heck, even to a different state, the expectation is they will obey the laws, including paying taxes. That’s the deal. So why, all of a sudden, is it so important that they get to vote on the laws? If they didn’t like the laws, they could have stayed where they were. Is there a precedent for this?

      Fair has nothing to do with this. Are they being charged extra because they are legal residents and not citizens? How is giving them the vote necessary? Just because something can be done doesn’t mean it should be done.

The Gentle Grizzly | January 9, 2022 at 6:09 pm

Noo Yawkuhz elect anuddah winnah.

And, I don’t want to hear any of this nonsense about dominion voting machines or other things. This is what Noo Yawk votuhz voted for, and they deserve what they get.

Adams=less articulate Barry and DeBlasios 3 4 term – only worse.

Reminds me of “medicinal marijuana’s” rapid transition to recreational marijuana.

Incrementalism at light speed.

Eric DeBlasio

The Gentle Grizzly | January 9, 2022 at 6:24 pm

Will they be required to wear masks? That seems to be the burning question in places like New York.

    Pasadena Peabody in reply to The Gentle Grizzly. | January 9, 2022 at 6:53 pm

    Have you been hibernating? Masks are so passe. When everything that’s nailed down is coming up you need to take take decisive action and churn votes.

To a very large extent I think it’s up to NYC to decide. That said, sometimes there are unintended consequences. If extending the franchise to federal green card holders who rent an apt is ok then why not absentee landlords?
Both pay taxes, the landlord significantly more. Both spend $ in the community economy. Both have an interest as a stakeholder in city government.

As a question does NYC and NY State have a robust program to determine residency for voting? How short is the requirement to register? Is it possible that green card holders who reside elsewhere in the State or Nation could apply to vote in NYC by fraudulent address? Is there a limited voter registration system or s it the same system? How are potential errors mitigated? Do the powers in NYC or NY State care if that occurs? If merely residing in a location v being a citizen is enough to expand the franchise then shouldn’t that same logic limit campaign funds from outside the location? It seems odd to allow influence of campaign $ from those who are excluded from voting.

Of course we should be asking similar questions about the process in our own States and localities as well. Once we get our own houses in order then we can ask NYC to do the same. In the meantime though it’s a free country and we can ridicule or applaud NYC as we see fit.

    Milhouse in reply to CommoChief. | January 10, 2022 at 12:40 am

    There’s a good argument to let non-resident landlords vote too, but it’s much weaker than the case for residents. Non-resident landlords only pay land tax; they don’t pay any of the other city taxes. And they don’t have to obey city laws. So let’s wait for this reform to go through, and then they can start making their case for being included too.

    There are certainly countries where people who pay taxes in two cities can vote in both.

    As for the possibility of fraudulent registrations, there is almost no barrier to this, but that has nothing to do with this change. This change doesn’t make that problem any worse. If you’re worried about fraud, and you should be, fight that directly.

Pasadena Peabody | January 9, 2022 at 7:06 pm

The new mayor emphisized they are going to be cautious with non-citizens voting—they are going to put a limit of three votes per person starting out and see how it goes.

They should send ballots around the world to vote for positions, no border means no borders.

I actually don’t have a problem with this since none of the people allowed are here illegally and it’s local only. It’s different from the bills in California that allow illegal aliens to vote.

Dude’s weak. Might as well resign now.

Wouldn’t allowing non-citizens to vote be the definition of foreign government influence in US elections?

    Milhouse in reply to Moon Battery. | January 10, 2022 at 12:41 am

    How so? First of all these are not US elections, they’re NYC elections. And foreign governments do not control how their citizens vote, any more than the US government controls how its citizens vote.

      henrybowman in reply to Milhouse. | January 10, 2022 at 1:19 am

      No, it’s just the federal government who ends up sending federal tax money to bail out cities like NYC when their stupid voters vote for stupid policies that tank their city which is “too large to fail.”

        Milhouse in reply to henrybowman. | January 10, 2022 at 10:46 am

        What makes you think aliens are more likely than citizens to vote for stupid policies? It’s the citizens who have voted for all the stupid policies until now; how can aliens make it even worse?

          sringland in reply to Milhouse. | January 10, 2022 at 9:09 pm

          Aliens will vote for policies such as amnesty, chain migration, and taxpayer funded food, housing, and health coverage for life. Kind of obvious these will make life worse for working Americans.

          Well, these legal residents can only vote in municipal elections (allegedly), so how on earth do you think they will have a vote on immigrataion/amnesty? They may vote for more “free stuff,” but that will get them nowhere since many NY taxpayers are fleeing the crazy.

          If New Yorkers want legal aliens voting for this crap, they can have it. Let’s see how it works out.

      sringland in reply to Milhouse. | January 10, 2022 at 5:45 pm

      But local elections often affect the lives of citizens more than state or federal elections. These green card holders already have a right to vote – in their own countries. If they have a problem with that, they can leave, because they are here by choice. And thanks for supporting the movement to make my local vote worthless.

Major point missing from this post: It makes no difference whether Adams likes the new law or dislikes it. He can’t veto it, so it’s going to be law and he’s going to have to live with it. So he may as well get in front of it.

    alaskabob in reply to Milhouse. | January 10, 2022 at 1:11 am

    If all monies and programs for NYC originated in NYC….that would be fine. The question is U.S. Federal money being directed and spent as part of this including grants. Would this law be passed if the trend in voting wasn’t socialist?

Steven Brizel | January 10, 2022 at 9:04 am

Adams can’t posture as a moderated by sounding tough on crime while supporting a DA who is a public defender in reality and the non existent rights of non citizens to vote,.

    He hasn’t supported the Manhattan DA. But he has to work with him whether he supports him or not. As he does with all the other DAs in the city.

This just shows the new mayor’s contempt for normal citizens of the city.

New York City has evolved from one, three-word socio-political movement to another: Black Lives Matter to Diversity, Inclusion & Equity

2smartforlibs | January 10, 2022 at 2:47 pm

Since there is a difference between Citizens and residents this proves it’s all about winning and not about voter integrity.

civisamericanus | January 10, 2022 at 4:24 pm

If non-citizens vote than the election outcome is fraudulent and those elected have no legitimacy, which means laws and ordinances enacted by them have no legitimacy and can be ignored by the city’s residents. That is my opinion, and it is what I would conclude as a juror if somebody was charged with disobeying a law or ordinance passed by illegitimately elected officials.

Democracy requires that people accept the results of elections as fair regardless of whether they like the outcomes and, if people are allowed to vote who should not be allowed to vote, this makes the elections illegitimate which means there is essentially no recognizable government at all.

    Bullshit. Your opinion is noted as the garbage that it is. If the city decides to let all residents vote, then that is who should vote, and there’s nothing “fraudulent” about it. If you were to behave like that as a juror then you would be an oath-breaker.

Doesn’t this dilute the vote of citizens, effectively depriving them of their rights? It diminishes even the meaning of citizen. Will there be lawsuits?