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Trans Swimmer at U. Penn Who Competed for Three Years as a Man Now Crushing Records as a Woman

Trans Swimmer at U. Penn Who Competed for Three Years as a Man Now Crushing Records as a Woman

“Women who otherwise would have been on Penn’s team are out of luck. So are the women who would have won these events had they not been competing against a man.”

A senior at the University of Pennsylvania who competed as a male swimmer for the last three years has now transitioned to female and is breaking records as a woman swimmer.

The situation has caused an uproar as people claim that this person now has an unfair advantage.

The Daily Mail reports:

UPenn trans swimmer, 22, sparks outrage by SMASHING women’s competition records after competing as a man for three seasons

A trans swimmer and senior at the University of Pennsylvania, who previously spent three years competing as a man, is now crushing records in women’s events, sparking outrage amid controversy surrounding transgender athletes.

Lia Thomas, 22, formerly named Will, has competed in a number of events recently, including a tri-meet with Cornell and Princeton universities on November 20 where the senior ‘blasted’ UPenn records in the 200m and 500m freestyle – posting times that beat almost every other female swimmer across America.

With a time of 1:43:47 in the 200m freestyle, Thomas would have been in line to secure a silver medal at the NCAA Women’s Championships, while her 4:35:06 in the 500m freestyle would have been good enough to win bronze.

This is the latest controversy in the ongoing argument over whether trans people should be allowed to compete in sports alongside athletes of the opposite gender than they were assigned at birth.

It is unknown when Thomas began transitioning, but NCAA rules state she had to have completed one year of testosterone suppression treatment in order to compete.

This is an ongoing controversy in women’s sports, particularly in higher education where scholarships are concerned.

Zachary Faria writes at the Washington Examiner:

Just two years ago, Lia Thomas was competing in men’s swimming at Penn as Will Thomas. In the 2018-19 season, Thomas was a second-team All-Ivy swimmer in three different events. After last competing against men in November 2019, Thomas returned after the Ivy League canceled the 2020-21 season because of COVID to compete against women and has obviously seen great success.

Women who otherwise would have been on Penn’s team are out of luck. So are the women who would have won these events had they not been competing against a man. And more will be out of luck later on. Thomas’s times would have won silver and bronze in two events at the 2021 NCAA Women’s Championships.

We have already seen a man well past his physical prime taking a spot at the Olympics away from a 21-year-old female athlete . Now, a man who was winning against men just two years ago is dominating women’s swimming in the Ivy League, all because sports leagues and organizations are rejecting basic biology in favor of scientifically illiterate gender ideology.

This is only going to get worse, as the Olympics have now signaled their support for more men to compete in women’s events.

This is not fair to women athletes.

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You go girl! /s

A 50 year old man has the aerobic capacity of a 25 year old woman, so maybe just put an age restriction on the men.

I’m now dying to see us take the rosters of 2 or 3 NFL teams, slap long blonde wigs on them, and send them to the next Olympics as our Women’s Olympic Team.

just insane, but the rest of us are supposed to go along and deny reality–is just mind-boggling that to accomodate the “feelings” of .000001% of the population we’re otherwise compelled to taint/sway/corrupt the genuine/legitimate sporting competition of folks that comprise over half the population of our country

    Ben Kent in reply to texansamurai. | December 3, 2021 at 1:28 pm

    Trans are .003% — not .000001% of the population.

    But they may as well be 99% the way they dictate to everyone how to speak, act and view the world. The woke talk constantly about White privilege – BUT I Never say a more privileged group than Trans.

    To put in context, imagine if every person over 6 foot 6 inches tall forced everyone to wear stilts that elevated them up to at least 6 foot 5 inches and to change their language so as to avoid hurting the feelings of the very tall.

    >> Everyone would reject such crazy accommodations to one specific and narrow group. In fact- they would call them “cry-babies” or “self-indulgent tyrants”. But trans get a special pass.

    This is not America. We don’t know-tow to narrow special interests. At least we never did till now

    And if you are in this narrow special group – shame on you – for selfishly forcing everyone to do things just because you say so.

    You ruin women’s sport
    You force this dumb “pronoun” bullshit
    You allow men into women’s changing and shower rooms
    You seek to cause “gender-confusion” and to push kids to sex-change surgery
    You change 1 million years of culture by degrading women – calling them “menstruators”
    > Nothing is as misogynistic as trans

    Oddly, feminist groups do not stand up against this bullshit. They care more about avoiding political backlash than for protecting women’s rights. They are a bad joke.

      Kevin in reply to Ben Kent. | December 3, 2021 at 5:27 pm

      Sorry, but “trans” comprise 0% of the population, because “trans” is a made up state of mind of the mentally ill. If you’re a dude and think you’re a chick, you have a mental illness., and until about 15 minutes ago the medical community agreed. We shouldn’t create a new category so the nutcases can feel better. Allowing a dude to tuck his junk in his crack, grow out his hair, put on a dress, and instantly be called a woman, is the height of insanity. Allowing them to compete athletically against biological woman is degrading to the real women, and in today’s litigious society, should give biological females grounds for legal action, against the college as well as the mentally ill person perpetrating the fraud. As with all other frauds, monetary penalties will be the only thing to stop this charade.

Did anyone see that survey a from early in the year about the number (percentage) of the Zoomer demographic that identifies as LGBQT? At ONE is SIX, it’s through the roof relative to previous generational cohorts.

Is this simply a case of mass psychosis or do you think we’ve altered their brain chemistry with some combination of environmental toxins or psychological conditioning? It’s interesting that the most ‘connected’ generation in history is also the most confused about fundamental questions of self-identity.

    fscarn in reply to TargaGTS. | December 3, 2021 at 1:26 pm

    A similar thing has happened. And it too passed from the scene though it caused its own incalculable damage.

    Michael Crichton wrote about it,

    Imagine that there is a new scientific theory that warns of an impending crisis, and points to a way out.

    This theory quickly draws support from leading scientists, politicians and celebrities around the world. Research is funded by distinguished philanthropies, and carried out at prestigious universities. The crisis is reported frequently in the media. The science is taught in college and high school classrooms.

    SeiteiSouther in reply to TargaGTS. | December 3, 2021 at 1:37 pm

    I’m more of the mindset that the “connected” generation simply identify as LGBTQetc. for the minority status and it’s trendy. Hence the term “transtrenders”. The uptick of that magnitude is simply wrong, in my opinion.

    henrybowman in reply to TargaGTS. | December 3, 2021 at 2:24 pm

    Personally, I’m convinced it’s nothing but trendiness. Peer pressure. “If you won’t consider homosex with somebody, you’re homophobic.”
    Racist. Supremacist. “Not of The Body.”
    Well, oh dear, wouldn’t want to be that!
    We were taught “sticks and stones.” Kids today are all, “you holding your opinion directly threatens my safety.”

Wow, who could have predicted *that*?

I do take note of the fact that with the freestyle times, at the national level he still would be beaten by a girl in the 200m and two girls in the 500m.

    Massinsanity in reply to p. | December 3, 2021 at 1:30 pm

    What’s your point?

    If you pull up a listing of the Top 25 Women’s collegiate swim teams there are 0 Ivy League schools on the list which is dominated by schools from the ACC, SEC, PAC-12 and Big 10.

    Among the Ivies, Penn isn’t even that highly regarded compared to Princeton, Harvard and Yale.

    So his posting these times is an extraordinary outlier in women’s college sports. A complete statistical anomaly fostered by ideology and not talent. He is a mediocre male collegiate swimmer who suddenly became a star to satisfy the woke.

    Colonel Travis in reply to p. | December 3, 2021 at 2:22 pm

    So sports is about winning at all costs? When a dude gets fast enough to beat all women at the national level, will it be unacceptable to you? Men displacing women from their own sport is repulsive. Human beings didn’t invent sports to be able to win using any means necessary.

      henrybowman in reply to Colonel Travis. | December 3, 2021 at 2:33 pm

      As long as we never lose sight of the fact that “women’s sports” are a completely artificial construct not found in nature. We created a class of competitors and gave them a handicap by consensus — they would compete only against each other. No insult intended, but indistinguishable from the rationale for the Special Olympics.
      Now it seems that this consensus has been repudiated, and we approve the fact that Cartman is now allowed to win the Special Olympics every year.

        zennyfan in reply to henrybowman. | December 3, 2021 at 4:10 pm

        What an … unenlightened and frankly offensive view, comparing femaleness to special needs. I wish this site had an “ignore user.”

          henrybowman in reply to zennyfan. | December 3, 2021 at 5:51 pm

          Go “be offended” in some forum where they still fall for that bulls*t.
          The entire situation described in this article came about because we are no longer respecting the “special” class that was artificially set up for women.
          Now, if you don’t agree that women have that “special need,” go compete with the strapped jocks with my blessing.
          We created “special” artificial classes for T-Ball, Little League, high school, and college players, too. Do you have a problem with that? Those kids are as “normal” as any woman.
          Be thankful I’m not Millhouse, or I’d tell you to get your head out of your a*.

I’ve got a 10 year old daughter. About half of my family has competed at elite levels in various sports (college level, on full scholarship)… several All American finishes.

I’m having serious pause about having her work towards this direction. Not only because of the unlevel playing field being created, but also for patronizing an institution that is so morally bankrupt.

I’m coming to the conclusion that these talents and the effort required to foster those talents into performance are better spent elsewhere.

    alaskabob in reply to Andy. | December 3, 2021 at 12:13 pm

    The Eastern Bloc nations were always penalized for trying to use drugs to turn females into stealth “males”… now it’s fully open to turn males into “females”. The Left turns gold into base metal. When with the Karen athletes tire of finishing out of the podium as their sacrifice?

    Massinsanity in reply to Andy. | December 3, 2021 at 1:33 pm

    Have your daughter play a sport(s) that she loves and the rest will take care of itself. Whether one plays D1 scholarship level or intramural in college there is so much to be gained from participating in sports from a health, wellness and social perspective that its best not to get too wound up about it.

      It’s funny because although opened a lot of doors for me, I hate sports at anything BUT the intramural levels. I hate pro sports, I hate college sports- I have zero respect for the athletes outside of a really narrow window of guys who are high performers and impressive has human beings (ie- Ryan Hall who is a world champion in the BJJ and also went to school as an electrical engineer). Compare this with Suzie Favor who went from Olympian to high end hooker.

      Now she’s doing BJJ because it may save her life at some point… and because that’s what I do now. When she’s older there will be competition shooting (IDPA).

    henrybowman in reply to Andy. | December 3, 2021 at 2:37 pm

    If she’s athletically inclined, consider the “Hanna” strategy instead. Those skills will be in great demand in her generation. Historically, sports are, after all, a sublimation of combat skills.

would seem more reasonable to just designate three categories of athletic competition–men, women, everybody else

seems fair

    Olinser in reply to texansamurai. | December 3, 2021 at 1:07 pm

    And just like bathrooms they pitch a fit if you try to do that.

    They don’t WANT a category to themselves.

    They DEMAND that you treat them as women, despite all evidence.

    And yes, it’s male to females that comprise nearly all of this crap. Funny how its never female to males anybody has a problem with.

      Dimsdale in reply to Olinser. | December 4, 2021 at 8:51 pm

      More importantly, if there was no difference between men and women, then women identifying as men would similarly be infiltrating men’s sports and similarly winning.

      Don’t see that, do we?

The fact that this issue is even open for debate boggles my mind, Simple solution: 2 divisions, XX & XY. I don’t care what you ‘identify’ as, you fall into one of the 2 divisions. Case closed.

Our country worked hard for women sports and equality of opportunity. Now we’re destroyIng women’s sports by letting men compete in women’s sports.

    Ben Kent in reply to r2468. | December 3, 2021 at 1:32 pm


    Woke /Trans people who “identify” as women erode women’s rights.

    Feminists are no where to be found.

    If I were a woman – I would be livid.

Part of the problem is that people (Mike LaChance) keep referring to him as “she” and “her”.

I expect the WNBA will be the next battleground. That should be interesting!

    mbecker908 in reply to NYBruin. | December 3, 2021 at 1:18 pm

    We can only hope. The NBA and NFL, given their woke proclamations should be forced into an equity position with respect to female athletes. Half the people on the field should be women. It’s only fair. And they should be paid just like the men’s “stars.”

      Football should provide a safe and inclusive climate for men, men who identify as women, and women with penis envy. Gynecologists, whatever their archaic belief about genetics, physiology, normal [distributions], and fitness, should provide a politically congruent (“=”) and inclusive handmade service. The rest of us should take a knee and bray our consensus. Meanwhile, the pride parade passes without lions, lionesses, and their [unPlanned] cubs playing in gay revelry.

    healthguyfsu in reply to NYBruin. | December 3, 2021 at 2:10 pm

    There’s already a transgender it in the WNBA and it loves to call out male players as if it can beat them.

    henrybowman in reply to NYBruin. | December 3, 2021 at 2:41 pm

    And then of course, there will be the perverse incentive to the league of improved Neilsen ratings.

I was a swimmer – one note – 1:43.47 is 200 YARDS freestyle.

1:43.47 would have won the Olympics in 2020 for the 200 METER freestyle.

And yes, it’s Daily Mail that is wrong with it (no surprise).

And yes, this trans insanity is ludicrous. Women CANNOT compete against men, they get absolutely annihilated.

Lets take the 200m Freestyle – the actual 200 METER freestyle.

The Women’s WORLD RECORD in the 200M Freestyle is 1:52.98, and that record has stood 12 years (since 2009).

Again in the 2020 Olympics, with the sole exception of a schlub from Libya (who shouldn’t have been there in the first place), 38 out of 39 men BROKE THE WOMEN’S WORLD RECORD, and the winning time was 1:44.62, absolutely SHATTERING a world record that’s stood for 12 years.

So in the 2020 Olympics, the Women’s WORLD RECORD HOLDER would have placed 39th.

Seems like wimmyns are among the biggest pushers of “trans-rights” so my empathy level is just about zero.

    Ben Kent in reply to mbecker908. | December 3, 2021 at 1:39 pm


    Women’s rights are being attacked by the Woke / Trans lunacy.

    Feminists marched with pussy hats against Trump over concern he might degrade women’s rights.

    But there is ZERO marches again these groups that ACTUALLY degrade women’s rights.

    > > Title IX is a joke when men can compete in female sports.


    All the women who fought so hard for women’s rights would be so disappointed with today’s women.

    henrybowman in reply to mbecker908. | December 3, 2021 at 2:53 pm

    Just keep in mind the inclusiveness theorem. It’s one thing to note that most of the chicks in Antifa are crazy and white. It’s another to conclude from that that all chicks are crazy Antifas.
    Substitute trans-activist for Antifa and the same formulation is true.

See, men ARE better than women! 🤣🤣

    Finicky Fat Guy in reply to mailman. | December 8, 2021 at 3:15 pm

    Actually, men are better at being women that women are. At least when it comes to sports and other physical endeavors. LOL

LPGA next? Can see a guy with a beard wearing a dress and driving it 300 yards plus.

The outrage from some of these folks is a bit late. Many on our side of this issue foresaw this, voiced those concerns and were either ignored or slandered as an ‘ist’.
Some prominent and less prominent female athletes and advocates did voice similar concerns but they were treated to the same.

IMO, anyone who didn’t stand up and be counted prior to the implementation of these policies and is only upset when the predictions we made came true but were silent when we were pilloried for our opposition can deal with it.

I am not rejecting their apparent conversion but I am as unwilling now to continue my opposition as they were to join in initially when we had a chance to stop this before it started. I won’t oppose the belated efforts of these converts much less support the opposition but I have other, bigger fish to fry at this point. So I will offer my best wishes to their success in unraveling the mess they, through their silence, helped establish.

“…trans swimmer sparks outrage by SMASHING women’s competition records”

Actually no records were broken. A man pretending to be a woman doesn’t break any records set by women. The only thing broken is the record of who is to the biggest pretender.

If a two year old girl gets a doll and calls it her baby, she doesn’t break any records for being youngest mother.

    henrybowman in reply to UserPeabody. | December 3, 2021 at 2:45 pm

    Hey! That’s just like a man pretending to be President!
    But meanwhile, he can still turn your existence into dogfood.

      UserPeabody in reply to henrybowman. | December 3, 2021 at 2:58 pm

      Yeah, that’s the exact same thing isn’t it?

        henrybowman in reply to UserPeabody. | December 3, 2021 at 5:56 pm

        It is if you’re one of the competitors with a short shelf-life to your talents. The male taking all your event’s records is not just harming the previous record holder, but harming any female who could otherwise have taken those records herself, and now will never be recognized no matter what happens to those record in the future.

It’s a Pro-Choice, Pro-Choice, Pro-Choice, Pro-Choice selective, opportunistic, relativistic handmade world.

This CRAP must end.

LoL at the foolishness of this Trans Gender nonsense.

My sympathy is tempered by the fact most of these UPenn Alum felt smug superiority when they were virtue signally by tearing down “cis white men” as the epitome of evil – openly discriminating against “cis” “white” men.

A men’s group or organization to ensure men’s interests are being looked after? “OMG – why do men need an organization!?”

Now it’s their daughters who are under attack.

I can almost feel bad for the UPenn Alum and their kids …. almost.

Are all of the women on the team on scholarship?

If not then quit in protest and they won’t have a team.

Soooooooooooooooo stupid!

So, girls: what do you think of all those fat, homely and crazy older gasbags that brought your generation to this? And say what? – You can’t find a mascluine, responsible guy to marry? Thank them, too.

Bill Clinton gave society the poison of exposing young children to oral sex in the White House. Obama gave society the poison of hate and sexual disfunction. The cherry on top is that corrupt lunatic Biden, who has mainstreamed smoking crack, fathering unborn children, blatantly selling out one’s country and shitting in his pants during public functions.

Trump and/or DeSantis are our only way out – IF, IF, IF, IF – we destroy the power of the GOPe.

With Rona Romney (what more do you need to day?) McDaniels being chairwoman of the GOP, and that rat McConnell hogging the GOP in the Senate, and milquetoast Kevin McCarthy trying to become Boehner II, we’re be doomed to fail.

I wonder if this will eventually be resolved in the civil courts. A girl could really be injured by one of these folks in a sport where physical contact is routine – entirely foreseeable.

One solution is to allow all students to compete, but to score the meet with four separate categories of records and trophies: cis-male, cis-female, trans-male, and trans-female. Bragging rights would be “I was the fifth fasted trans-female swimmer.” Thankfully, Penn and other Ivy schools do not offer athletic scholarships.