Some Republican Voters in California Recall Say Computers Show They Already Voted When They Haven’t
Estelle Bender is a Republican. The people she spoke to who experienced this are also Republicans. This cannot be a coincidence.
KTLA reported that staffers at the El Camino Real Charter High School polling station told some San Fernando Valley voters they already voted.
The article buried an important detail: It happened to self-identified Republicans.
Estelle Bender, 88, told KTLA she went to the high school at 10:30. She gave a woman her ballot, who scanned it. The woman then told her, “You voted.” Bender replied, “No, I haven’t.”
Bender said the woman older it “has been happening all morning.”
“The man next to me was arguing the same thing,” stated Bender.
So Bender filled out a provisional ballot, but the situation made her “really angry.”
Bender left but told two women coming towards her to not be shocked if they’re told to fill out the provisional ballot.
The ladies told Bender the staffers already told them they voted and they had to fill out the provisional ballot.
Then Bender drops the bomb when she asked the women, “Are you by any chance Republicans?”
“And she said ‘yes.’ And I said, ‘So am I,'” explained Bender.
The lady announced the others with her identified as Republicans, too. Bender said another person she spoke to at another polling place had the same issue who just happened to be a Republican.
The reporter asked Bender if the fact that they are all Republicans made her suspicious. She was more gracious than me, giving him a little “um, duh” laugh, but responded yes.
“I’d still like to know how I voted,” Bender asserted.
The Los Angeles County Registrar-Recorder’s office explained that they replaced the machines at the polling center and went on about the provisional ballots:
The voters who experienced this issue were offered and provided provisional ballots – the failsafe option to ensure no one has turned away from voting. Provisional ballots are regular ballots and once the eligibility of the voter is verified, they are processed and counted. After troubleshooting the issue, the equipment at the locations was replaced and voting continued.
That is not the point. That. Is. Not. The. Point.
The point is the computers told polling staffers these people already voted. They all happen to be Republicans. Will there be an investigation?
I’m guessing not.
Some crazy stuff happening with LA voting. At my polling place a staffer told one of my employees that the electronic machines don’t count votes, just register that you voted. The staff count themselves. Are there cameras? Any system to verify and match? pic.twitter.com/J4c9p3OtLB
— Dave Rubin (@RubinReport) September 13, 2021
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Every vote fraud in the books will be the Gruesome playbook. Anything done in 2020 vote fraud will be expanded.
Elder will win.
But Newsom will not be recalled and will remain as governor.
So where has the Republican National Committee been all this time?
Where is that useless bozo GOP Chair Rona Romney?
Where is that corrupt rino rat McConnell. Where is his toady, McCarthy?
What a joke. We could have done it, but they don’t want it done.
Why do you expect the rest of the country to bail out California? They got themselves into this mess, let them get themselves out. If they don’t want to, then screw them. Besides, I’m past tired of California “conservatives” blaming all of their problems on Texas.
I expect preparing statements about how “Trump’s spurious allegations of fraud suppressed the conservative vote, costing us the election.”
A provisional ballot doesn’t address the problem. Somebody cast a vote using these peoples’ identities. All a provisional ballot does, if its even counted, allows the voter to actually cast their own vote. There are still other votes out there fraudulently cast that will end up being counted as well. What ‘s to guarantee that the staff is even going to process the provisional ballot, and not put it in the shredder? Don’t treat the provisional ballot like some kind of band-aid that fixes everything.
The computers told the election workers the voters had already voted so they replaced the voting machines? What good does that do? The system that tracks who has voted will continue to say the people already voted when they haven’t.
No one should be surprised that these ‘problems’ only affect Republicans. There were ample warning signs before when they started playing with the election rules just weeks before voting began that they were going to try to rig the election. This is just the first, overt sign.
I really hope the Republicans are bringing their “A” game to watching this election.
This is what happens when you “just move on” after a fraudulent election: you get more of the same.
See: “So where has the Republican National Committee been all this time?”, above.
They’re in on the scam.
More to the point, John Roberts allowed this because he was afraid of riots
If you hadn’t noticed election security experts have already said that this election might be problematic since the software used has been publicly released. In other words potentially this could be fraud as a direct result of the sham efforts to claim 2020 was fraudulent
Is anybody, from either party, actually surprised by this?
“Estelle Bender is a Republican. The people she spoke to who experienced this are also Republicans. This cannot be a coincidence.”
To be fair, her report could be due to coincidence. Her friends are likely Republican (birds of a feather and all that), so she is almost certainly more likely to have heard reports from Republicans than Democrats (observation bias). Not saying it isn’t systematic, but this is anecdotal report, and without more data it only informs us that more data should be gathered before a conclusion is reached.
I see she spoke to walk-in voters. Also another group that is more likely to skew Republican. Dems love those mail-in ballots.
Especially when they can fill them out in someone else’s name, preferably dead but tying up Republican votes will do.
I don’t understand how some simple and basic task like requiring you to show ID is voter suppression according to Dems but this is not voter suppression?
Happening to 70% of voters at that polling place certainly indicates a real problem and likely real fraud
that’s why we said we needed this fixed before the next election. As long as liberals are running unchecked this is what will always happen.
Nothing “liberal” about these fascists
It doesn’t matter who votes. It matters who counts the votes.
Winner of the internet today
Remember these sorts of stories, this quote from the NYT: “Raúl Castro, 76, received 99.4 percent of votes cast in Santiago de Cuba, the family’s base in the country’s east.”
We’re on our way. The left is going to give us unity – good and hard – whether we like it or not.
Hell, Estelle probably ‘voted’ 5 or six times, her ballots having been filled out weeks ahead of time in some D’Rat sewer.
The East Bay Times had an article this morning from AP suggesting claims of voter fraud are going to be the “right-wing” playbook for the foreseeable future, That article is what you would call “battlespace preparation”, getting out in front and predicting “false” claims of fraud, and trying to belittle them, because they know goddam well there is going to be massive fraud.
Well, yes, it will be. That’s what happens when you have so much fraud. Even if all fraud stops tomorrow, unless we can verify that we’re not going to believe it. Why would we? So yes, for the foreseeable future, until we can either verify that there is no fraud or so much time has passed since fraud was a thing that we’ll have forgotten it, that will be our playbook. I mean the term “the margin of fraud” has already been in our vocabulary for almost 20 years, and the knowledge behind that term has been with us for longer than I’ve been alive. I remember reading about Dem fraud in Philadelphia when I was too young to vote.
Unless the problem really was with the machine, not with the system.
Everyone here seems to be assuming that the machine was correctly reporting that someone had voted in these people’s names. If so, giving them provisional ballots is not a solution, and nor is replacing the machine.
But it’s possible that no vote had been recorded in these people’s names, and the machine was incorrectly reporting that one had been. In that case the provisional ballot will be counted, and replacing the machine means nobody else will have that problem, and the only residual problem will be those who were turned away and chose not to cast a provisional ballot.
By the way, the blockquote problem has been fixed. No more need to put a dot before the blockquote, and if you bothered to install the greasemonkey script I posted last night you can delete it now.
Another election “fortified” against producing the “wrong” result…
The vote was stolen before it even started
A lot of people are asking about that guy who was found asleep in his car in a 7-11 parking lot.
He was asleep in a public parking lot.
He was a parolee, as I recall.
He had a gun, almost surely illegal.
He had drugs, as I recall.
And, to the point, he had something like 300 ballots with no explanation given as to how that was happening.
The story said the guy was released.
Why?
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/23/california-recall-madness-police-arrest-man-in-car-with-300-unopened-ballots-gun-and-drugs/
There certainly was an explanation for how he came by 300 ballots. He also had a shitload of other mail. He had obviously stolen a large quantity of mail, possibly from a mailman, and planned to go through it looking for cash and valuables. It happened to be when ballots were being mailed out, so there happened to be ballots in his haul.
This is evidence of an insecurity in the system, but not of fraud.
Thanks Milhouse. Good clarification on this item. Still here are many other questionable things going on – like the people who were told they already voted.
Because he was working for both the Democrats and Republicans, but being paid by the Democrats.
Subotai Bahadur
If both the fraudulent ballot, probably against the recall, and a Republican provisional ballot is also counted, then the Republican voted is essentially voided
I don’t think it’s possible that both will be counted. Assuming that there really is a fraudulent ballot, either it will be located and pulled (which requires that it’s still in its envelope), or the provisional ballot will be tossed. But don’t assume there is one. It’s possible there really was a fault in the machine.
I can’t wait for Merrick Garland to ride in on his great white horse to protect the voting rights of elderly Republicans.
Any Dem voters reporting the same problem prior to now?
Didn’t think so.
Funny how all of these oopsies and strange happenings seem to always favor Dems. Always. How do we know? Because if any favored a Republican and the R then won the Dems and their media allies would provide wall-to-wall coverage — 24/7 coverage, week after week. And it would be brought up constantly for years and years.
They might even manage to get a Special Counsel appointed to investigate.
Maybe time to stop coddling corporate America? They despise us
Oh, c’mon, surely you don’t suspect corruption and fraud, now, do you? Between that, the nitwits, and ILLEGAL ALIENS in California, Nuisance is a shoe-in.
This is the issue with mass mailing of ballots. The USPS does good work for the most part, but at a 95% success rate that leaves a 5% failure rat. Many elections are decided within that 5% margin.
Further it complicates voting. The voter who shows up to physical voting location and is told they have already voted is offered a provisional ballot. Ok, was the database showing a previous vote accurate? Maybe. If not though now we have another rabbit hole to explore before the issue is resolved.
The voter is issued a provisional ballot. Fine then what? There are now potentially two ballots for the voter. Which one is accurate? What is the process to determine the actual voter intent? Who runs the process?
IMO, absentee ballots should be restricted to those voters who are on military or diplomatic service outside the country or Citizens who permanently reside in another country. Everyone is capable of determining when elections are held. Plan to be home and ready to exercise your civic right to vote by exercising some civic responsibility.
I live in CA and all voters got a mail-in ballot so potentially anyone could vote by mail and then try to vote in person, thus voting twice. That is why tracking is needed. I turned in my ballot at a drop box at an in-person voting place. The mail-in envelope requires a signature and had a name and address printed in small letters to match the name and address. I actually opened my husband’s ballot and was going to sign his envelope and then realized my mistake and used my envelope instead. The woman who took the ballot checked this but she didn’t seem to realize what she was doing. She accepted my ballot and put it in the box. So I see the issue with voting by mail when in-person voting could be duplicative. I could have gone to the post office, mailed my ballot and then appeared at the polling place to vote in person. Prior I had an all mail precinct.
I don’t think this is deliberate “rigging” but it is a vulnerable system, to duplicate voting unless they have tracking. I also think provisional ballots are disappointing because they are the last counted and require research. You are actually supposed to be able to track your own ballot so that woman should have looked up her record to see if it showed she already voted. The polling places should anticipate this.