More Maskless Texas Democrats Test Positive for COVID-19
The five members had the vaccine. They are either asymptomatic or having mild symptoms.
Two more Texas Democrats tested positive for COVID-19 in Washington, DC, after they fled their home state. The members went to DC to deny Texas Republicans a quorum so they could not pass a new voting law.
That means five of the 60 Democrats have COVID-19.
All five had the vaccine. Reports indicate they are showing none or mild symptoms:
San Antonio Rep. Trey Martinez Fischer said Sunday he was among the two new positive tests.
“Today, I received a positive COVID-19 rapid antigen test result. I am fully vaccinated, and had tested negative on Friday and Saturday. I am quarantining until I test negative, and I am grateful to be only experiencing extremely mild symptoms,” he said in a statement, which urged the public to get vaccinated and said he will continue to participate in the quorum break.
Earlier Sunday, Austin Rep. Celia Israel said in a statement she was among the initial three to test positive.
The House Democratic Caucus said it would not identify lawmakers who test positive out of respect for their privacy. But the caucus has started additional precautionary measures, like providing daily rapid tests for all lawmakers and their staff in Washington, D.C.
In other words, the vaccines work. The vaccine does not guarantee you will not get COVID or its variants. It also helps you be asymptomatic or mildly sick with COVID. Can we stop the unnecessary tests?
But the hypocrisy is priceless. These people want you to stay masked 24/7 and stay six feet apart.
Yet, they had no problem showing themselves packed on a plane and bus. You have to wear a mask on planes.
Rules for thee, but not for me.
Laws — like masking on a plane — exist for a reason. Very disturbed by this reckless behavior, which happened in the process of subverting democracy. Everyone remember the day July 12. https://t.co/lU8l4iCACM
— Joe Gabriel Simonson (@SaysSimonson) July 17, 2021
Just when you thought Democrat theatrics and smears around voter integrity laws couldn’t get any worse, Texas Democrats said “hold my beer” – literally.https://t.co/9hq5sWDQ6t
— Tommy Pigott (@TommyPigott) July 12, 2021
ON PLANE TO DC: Texas Democratic lawmakers are leaving state to break quorum to stop Republican voting bill. Veteran Capitol observers say this is unchartered territory. Photo from Democrat on the plane. https://t.co/YOuOMb0A2m pic.twitter.com/abWoARvFIC
— ScottGordonNBC5 (@ScottGordonNBC5) July 12, 2021
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When the photo on the air liner made the rounds, I wondered how many would test positive. The answer is developing even as we write.
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The metric most often used by the MSM is “tested positive”. Many sources abound that debunk the PCR test, it was “de cycled” from >40 Cycles after the vaccine arrived. The only time the large cycle is used is for unvaccinated persons. The metric most useful here would be symptomatic or asymptomatic.
The reason symptomology is so important come from a study done by the University of East Anglia that did antibody testing on 10,000,000 Wuhan residents, found 300 asymptomatic people and of all of those asymptomatic person’s contacts, zero people developed antibodies.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/11/201130131511.htm
I believe we need to stop using illegitimate metrics. It is a tactic used to inflame passions, but has no real meaning. The real story here may be that even though fully vaccinated, they still got the virus, but, like every other asymptomatic person, did not spread it to anyone else.
I apologize. I meant to link the published study, but linked a story instead.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w
This story is likely about hygienic practices. Transmission, other than a fecal mode, from asymptomatic individuals, is not impossible (e.g. plausible), but improbable.
I agree. NEJM states that as well. Asymptomatic transmission is plausible, but, finding that empirical evidence is hard. 0 in 10m from Wuhan sets the bar pretty high, but, “it could happen”. Also, don’t conflate asymptomatic with pre-symptomatic.
It was a private jet, not an airliner. Airliners have better airflow than most emergency rooms by regulation.
It serves the dumb shits right, truly poetic justice.
But the caucus has started additional precautionary measures, like providing daily rapid tests for all lawmakers and their staff in Washington, D.C.
All at taxpayer expense no doubt. Because why would the democrats have to pay for their stupidity themselves. 😠
Other people *always* pay for democrat stupidity. That’s an ancillary benefit of dems being completely clueless about the relationship between cause and effect, as well as the ever-popular “unintended consequences”.
So this was Dems infecting Dems? If so, it’s Justice.
And, Kamala Harris took a trip to Bethesda Naval Hospital after her meeting with these former Texans.
Yeah, but she could be infected with any number of things.
Well she has a bad case of dumbassery, aka liberalism.
One can only imagine the number of things Harris has been infected with – and where.
But it did get her to the top.
The d/progressive agenda requires the VP for passage. If she was in quarantine v presiding then she couldn’t break a tie.
Therefore the VP isn’t allowed to be a Rona casualty of over reactive testing and quarantine protocols. IMO.
“In other words, the vaccines work.” That is a non sequitur.
Five breakthrough cases out of 60 people. All five were vaccinated? If we can even believe the reports.
Since when did vaccinated mean you still get sick? Do we use this logic with polio or the mumps? If this was any other vaccine with these stats we would call it a massive failure.
Yes, you do actually in the sense that you can still test positive for polio or the mumps if you have the vaccine. Nearly everyone vaccinated can test positive at some point for those diseases and pass through them with none to mild symptoms. This is nothing new…we just don’t test people for polio or mumps any more and we didn’t have the rapid test technology back when the vaccines for them were new.
The test is not for the actual disease, it is almost always a test for the immune system response against the disease. The purpose of a vaccine is to get your immune system to respond so the disease does not get much of a foothold.
The PCR test is a test for bits and pieces of viral particles.
I dare say that if you constantly test people for various things, you will find that they have immune system reactions to all kinds of stuff all the time. If lots of people (like 25%) of those who are vaccinated get sufficiently severe covid to require hospitalization, you can call the vaccine a failure. If the vaccine sufficiently primes your immune system to react against something when exposed to it, it is more or less a success if that response is enough to suppress the disease from getting sufficiently symptomatic to matter. Obviously, folks can decide to become vaccinated or not, that is their business, not mine. However, at the moment, pending future mutations, the vaccine is good enough to prevent a lot of morbidity and mortality.
If the conditional risk posed by the disease is greater than the absolute risk posed by the vaccine or other treatments, then the the vaccine or other treatments are the right choice. However, it is with cause that the safety profile of a vaccine is established over decades, since they have a durable, even lifetime, effect on human health and viability.
Wait – you’re talking English. No one here will understand you.
In other words, the vaccines work.
No, they don’t. If they worked like other vaccines (eg. polio, chickenpox, measles) then you wouldn’t be coming down with the Covid. The vaccine would protect you from the disease. These vaccines obviously fail to work as intended and should be withdrawn.
The vaccine does not guarantee you will not get COVID or its variants.
But oddly enough that is what the federal government and the pharmaceutical companies told the public as they made billions off the “vaccine”.
The vaccines were never advertised as 100% effective. The best of them were advertised as 90% or a tad more effective. If they are effective enough for me to be asymptomatic if I get covid, that is good enough for me.
That’s only because you don’t know how to read the data.
DEATHS are running over 40 per million
Severe Adverse Events are running over 100,000 per million
and in countries with the highest rate of vaccination, cases among those fully vaccinated are running ahead of the unvaccinated.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9790999/Symptom-tracking-app-claims-number-people-falling-ill-virus-day-FALLEN.html
There is a figure attached to the above article, which has been altered since publication. It compared the number of vaccinated v. unvaccinated cases, and the original version showed the lines crossing right at the very end. The figure has been cropped.
You do realize that you carry herpes simplex (chickenpox) in your nervous system to the day you die. If you test for it, you will test positive.
Herpes simplex is a cold sore. Chicken pox is varicella zoster. Unless I was mistaught, you can diagnose it using PCR techniques, but only in fluid from a blister.
Can you really detect it by PCR if we just randomly sample asymptomatic people?
I think you’re right about the difference in the viruses, but both herpes and chicken pox are for life. The shingles vaccine is for people over 65 who have had chicken pox. As far as I know, there is no herpes vaccine.
I know. Hard to get rid of stuff in the ganglia.
I don’t think a herpes simplex vaccine is possible. Whatever lets live herpes hide from your immune system means amping up your immune system is useless. It’s like giving a blind person a sniper rifle.
Can you really detect it by PCR if we just randomly sample asymptomatic people?
Yes, you can detect almost anything by improperly using the PCR process. All you have to do is crank up the passes the system makes to some unreasonable number (> = 40 passes) and you’re bound to find something,
You can create bogus statistics by manipulating CPR amplification. That’s what CDC and NIH are doing right now. PCR tests for unvaccinated individuals use whatever amplification levels they’ve always been using, often 40+. New guidelines for PCR tests for vaccinated individuals must be done with no more than 28 amplification levels. The problem is obvious.
We have over 200 years of dealing with killed virus types of vaccines.
The big issue is the type of vaccine we’re dealing with:” “mRNA”. It’s the first of it’s kind. And possibly the last.
I would not be surprised at all to find out this was just another ploy not to have to go back to work, and more and more will ” test positive,” and not go to work, also what are we supposed to be tested daily ? I understand they are members of Congress but what’s the point of getting vaccinated? (rhetorical question)
These are not members of Congress. These are the members of the Texas House of Representatives and staff members who booked it out of town and came to DC, and now can’t leave.
Although given that they were roaming around Capitol Hill last week there likely have been members of Congress and staff who had to get tested over the weekend. Sheesh, Kamala went to Walter Reed yesterday for a “checkup”.
Hopefully she’ll stay there.
I tend to believe this is a load of B.S.. Almost 60 lawmakers didn’t like the legislation to be brought up in special session, couldn’t defeat it legislatively, so in order to prevent a quorum they fled their responsibilities entirely. Now they claim that one in twelve has contracted COVID-19, even though they were fully-vaccinated. Naturally, they can’t return to Texas because…quarantine! And, since they all traveled in such close proximity, none of them can return to Texas because…quarantine! I’m not sure I believe any of them tested positive.
This is all theater, planned well in advance
IOWs…Bullschitt!
I’m not a doctor, or a philosopher, but if a test is positive and you have no symptoms, what do you have? If not tested, would you know that you have anything?
Well, if you change some definitions and abuse PCR, then you have a “case”.
Not being snarky here, but a positive PCR test means you tested positive. It does not mean you have “covid,” and, absent any symptoms, it is fairly meaningless. Kary Mullis (the inventor of the PCR test) himself stated that the test was never intended to be used for diagnosis.
Think Typhoid Mary.
Well, we have Kovid Kamala now.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
The Democrats’ rules and regulations are for the peasants and proles. The little people. The people Princess Pelosi and her central committee feed.
They don’t apply to the Dem ruling class and their most important supporters. Such as members of the Democrat-media complex.
They are lying, or they have false positives on their tests, or the vaccines are worthless.
Given the convenience of the timing, it is the first, the second, or both.
The vaccines are not worthless across the board. They are known to produce excess adverse events, including progressive viability and death. They are known to produce non-sterilizing immunity, thus the second, perhaps third, inoculations, as well as persistent viable transmission. They are known to increase (6x per British health) the risk of death in fully vaccinated individuals from the Indian variant, which is an evolution of the Wuhan virus to produce flu-like symptoms and deaths. They offer a value in emergency use based on critical risk factors (e.g. overweight/obese, metabolically compromised correlated with age). So, weight the conditional risk of infection and disease progression with the risk of vaccines on a present and progressive (they do not follow convention to have an estimable safety profile the emergency use) basis.
Wait – you’re speaking English again. We can’t understand you!
That many vaccinated people getting sick? with 100K times the normally allowable adverse events? Against a disease readily handled by cheap, early outpatient therapy?
Sounds worthless to me.
Or, they could be using that worthless test that runs a lot of false positives.
Oh nooooz, I gotz the covid! Better leave me up here in quarantine for a couple weeks instead of dragging me back to work tee hee!
Oh so convenient getting sick when their governor is doing everything he can to pull them back to Texas.
Remember that the quick tests have a false positive rate of around 5%. My daughter’s school tests 7,000 people each week, and they’ve learned to expect about 350 false positives. They re-test the positive cases using a different test to see who actually has the virus.
If they tested 60 Texas Dems, I suspect that about 3 of them were false positives. All the positives should be re-tested to confirm.
Please pass the popcorn
Texas Democrats, an insurrection in progress.
“But the hypocrisy is priceless. These people want you to stay masked 24/7 and stay six feet apart. Yet, they had no problem showing themselves packed on a plane and bus. You have to wear a mask on planes.”
Don’t you know, you can’t catch the Chinese Death Kooties from members of your own tribe. Only from MAGA-hatted redneck Walmart shoppers.
Stop the testing already.
On an administrative note, on the assumption that I can’t be the only one here without a Twitter account…
When I try to follow some of the tweets in a Twitter-laden article like this one, I am finding the page loading to be ultra slow for the past week or so. Like a full five minutes to get anything loaded, including the included images. It’s so out of line with anything else I browse to, my paranoid self is wondering if Twitter has recently taken it upon itself to throttle access to tweets by people who don’t have accounts. Is anyone else experiencing this?
No account here and it loads a little slowly, but not enough to make a real difference.
My gripe is I just don’t care at all what the twitterverse says about anything. Be nice skip.that.