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CDC Director Rejects Michigan’s Plea for COVID Vaccines, Suggests State ‘Shut Things Down’

CDC Director Rejects Michigan’s Plea for COVID Vaccines, Suggests State ‘Shut Things Down’

“I think if we tried to vaccinate our way out of what is happening in Michigan, we will be disappointed that it took so long for the vaccine to work — to actually have the impact.”

https://twitter.com/TomlinMedia/status/1357009790950469633

Do we need more proof these people want power and control? CDC Director Rochelle Walensky just gave us another piece of evidence!

COVID cases have grown in Michigan, leading Gov. Gretchen Whitmer to beg the government for more vaccines. Walensky said the state could not vaccinate its way out of this. She suggested Whitmer “shut things down.”

I’m not kidding:

The head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention contradicted the Whitmer administration Monday, saying the answer to Michigan’s “acute situation” with COVID-19 is not to surge vaccines but to shut down the state and “flatten the curve.”

“Really what we need to do in those situations is shut things down,” CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said during a Monday briefing.

“I think if we tried to vaccinate our way out of what is happening in Michigan, we will be disappointed that it took so long for the vaccine to work — to actually have the impact.”

Walensky’s reasoning is absolutely ridiculous:

But Walensky said the effect of vaccines is delayed, with the results not seen for somewhere between two to six weeks, depending on the vaccine.

“So when you have an acute situation — extraordinary number of cases like we have in Michigan — the answer is not necessarily to give vaccine,” Walensky said.

“The answer to that is to really close things down, to go back to our basics, to go back to where we were last spring, last summer, and to shut things down, to flatten the curve, to decrease contact with one another to test to the extent that we have available, to contact trace.”

Walensky added that other states also need vaccine, “and we don’t know where the next place is going to be that it’s going to surge.”

Whitmer came under fire in 2020 when she shut down Michigan in response to the pandemic. The recommendation puts Whitmer on a fine line:

She has declined to have her state health department director issue epidemic orders to shutter indoor dining, in-person high school classes or to end youth sports, but on Friday she urged a two-week pause in these areas. Several restaurants and schools indicated they wouldn’t make changes to their operations.

Forgetting that a virus is going to virus no matter what a person does, Whitmer’s office tried to blame her subjects for the rise in cases:

“Michigan has been following best practices when it comes to combating COVID-19, including implementing CDC standards,” Whitmer spokesman Bobby Leddy said.

“As our nation’s top health experts have said, this is not a failure of policy, but rather a compliance, variant and mobility issue, which is why it’s important for us to ramp up vaccinations as quickly as possible,” he added.

“While Gov. Whitmer appreciates the help we have received from the federal government, she will not stop fighting to get more vaccines for the people of Michigan.”

Weird. Texas got rid of its mandates three weeks ago, and cases have gone down.

Do you want people to take the vaccine or not? With Walensky giving this stupid advice and Dr. Anthony Fauci claiming you cannot get back to normal with the vaccine.

So if the vaccine isn’t going to do anything, why bother injecting your body with chemicals?

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Or- and this is a truly radical thought- she could give up her dictatorial powers and open the state up fully and see if cases go down like they have in Florida and Texas.

Walensky’s feeling of impending doom may be because she senses a reckoning in the wind — and she just can’t help herself.

Brave Sir Robbin | April 12, 2021 at 4:57 pm

On a positive note, and I truly mean this, she seems to be trying to resist a new comprehensive lock down, which means even she is learning they are at best ineffective.

I think they are in fact counter productive, because you really cannot have a real lockdown. Farmers must farm, truckers must truck, police must police, firemen must fight fires, doctors must doc, and nurses nurse. Grocery stores stay open, garbage collects must collect garbage, people have to keep gasoline a fuel supplies supplied, people have to keep the water running and the lights on, so there is really no lock down except for leisure and hospitality, and folks who do office work sitting in front of computers all day, like government employees.

So all these “essential” people go to work, get COVID, and then take it back home to their loved ones who are not working and LOCKED in the homes with no place to go, holed up with their COVID infected family member or room mate so they they, too get COVID. And they go to work, or out shopping, because they are fond of eating, and spread it.

So lock downs simply do not work, and cannot work, if you do not want people starving to death.

Any any event, she is an ignorant witch who has inflicted pain and death upon her people while oppressing their freedoms, and I hope the people jettison her at the first opportunity.

    Brave Sir Robbin in reply to Brave Sir Robbin. | April 12, 2021 at 4:57 pm

    Oh, and this moron running the CDC must go, too.

    The other side of this is that only a certain section of any society can lock itself away and continue to work uninterrupted. As I work within the banking industry Ive been able to work from home since March last year. However for the vast majority of people in manual or service related industries they do not have this luxury and MUST go out in to society to earn money to live!

    That just isn’t true the graphs denoting cases shows a clear correlation between lockdown and ending lockdowns in most cases. Clearly there are other factors as well that might distort the picture in specific instances but as a general rule it’s a strong underlying correlation.

    The_Mew_Cat in reply to Brave Sir Robbin. | April 14, 2021 at 6:06 pm

    Not only that, but equivalent lockdowns are only going to get less effective with time. This virus is evolving in a direction to make it more contagious, and given its mechanism of action, that also means more virulent as well. The more contagious a virus is, the less effective masks and 6 ft distancing are. Not only that, but this virus has a lot of room for evolutionary improvement. It still takes thousands of virus particles to infect someone. It has the potential to get a lot better.

The science shows – States that are locked down are getting worse. States that are open are getting better. What does Fauci and the Imposter in the White House say, follow the science. End the lockdowns.

    n.n in reply to DanJ1. | April 12, 2021 at 5:18 pm

    The greenhouse effect delays community immunity and sustains safe sanctuaries for a progressive spread in the most vulnerable when they are most vulnerable.

    The_Mew_Cat in reply to DanJ1. | April 14, 2021 at 6:08 pm

    Repressed demand must come back eventually. Susceptible people are eventually going to get infected. And given that the virus is evolving to become worse with time, repressing the virus only results in it coming back even worse. It is best to get exposed early in the cycle and build some immunity than to lock down and wait for the virus to improve.

Let them wear masks, culture bacteria, collect viruses, and other manner of submicron particles.

Postoperative wound infections and surgical face masks: a controlled study

Effectiveness of Adding a Mask Recommendation to Other Public Health Measures to Prevent SARS-CoV-2 Infection in Danish Mask Wearers

Physical interventions to interrupt or reduce the spread of respiratory viruses

That said, the virus is in the wild, and has been since before its official announcement, and is spread inside lock downs (i.e. greenhouse effect). Its progress has only been impeded through partial (e.g. preexisting immunity, naturally innocculation) community immunity, and inexpensive, effective medical therapeutics (e.g. HCQ, Ivermectin).

Also, the “body positivity” including “healthy at any weight”, “fat is beautiful” philosophy and practice is a comorbidity, and accounts for nearly 80% of Covid-19 cases. That, and Planned Parent/hood.

Deaths have gone up in Michigan nothing like cases. Where is Michigan as far as vaccinating the vulnerable?
Here in Iowa they are vaccinating all the way down to 16 year olds. The appointment finder App I’ve been monitoring has had local appointments available every day last week. If Michigan is doing the same and has not vaccinated all the vulnerable, the deaths are ALL on Whitmer. If they have opened vaccinations to all, and the deaths are still rising, then the dead people exercised their freedom.

Bottom line, no need to “rescue” something that is 100 normal.

    henrybowman in reply to iowan2. | April 12, 2021 at 7:12 pm

    And vaccinating down to 16-year-olds is already well past the level of rationality. How many high-schoolers are dying of COVID?

      To be honest, at that level you’re vaccinating to stop carriers, so little Bobby doesn’t catch it at school and bring it home to grandma. Anybody with a kid knows schools are giant collections of cold and flu, which they bring home to us. If they don’t have any old people in line, I’ve got no problem jabbing the little germ-spreaders.

Walensky added that other states also need vaccine, “and we don’t know where the next place is going to be that it’s going to surge.”

So, what does she tell the “next place” that “surges,” “No, you can’t vaccinate your way out of a surge”? That is, continue to be unresponsive to such requests each time for fear that another such request might be made? She doesn’t know that there will be a “next place.” She should respond positively to the request because Michigan is asking now. By the time any other state requests more vaccine, either 1.) there will be no reserves because MI asked first; or 2.) reserves will be available again. Give that “next place” an appropriate response at the time that such a request is made. Once again, a government official is making policy based on something she doesn’t know (a fault for which Rand Paul so accurately criticized government).

Someone should tell her that the effects of “locking down”, if any, also take weeks.

    DaveGinOly in reply to DaveGinOly. | April 12, 2021 at 5:39 pm

    I should add that my hat is off to Walensky. I was previously unable to imagine that anyone could make Gov. Whitmer look good.

So when asked for medical assistance the head of the CDC denied it and, instead, gave political advice. I guess that tells us everything we need to know about the CDC.

A vaccination administered today doesn’t become effective until 2-6 weeks. In that respect CDC is correct. Not very pleasant to hear the truth but there it is.

MI and other States North of 35 degrees have and had lower temperatures than States South of 35 degrees. People staying indoors due to cold weather are more likely to transmit because they are in close proximity.

Once the temperature goes up a bit people go outside where there is practically zero chance of transmission due to wind, lack of concentration, heat and sunlight.

IMO the case ‘surge’ we see in Northern States now are due to previous lockdown which can limit but never eliminate spread. In other words many of the cases now are really deferred cases. Most are younger and healthier which accounts for the far lower hospitalization rate and lower death rate.

Just my opinion but protecting the vulnerable population while opening up and letting adults make decisions v mandatory lockdown allowed many Southern States to reach herd immunity or near herd immunity faster. The Northern States simply don’t have the resistance from previous exposure to couple with their vaccination.

The difference between SD and ND which took different paths regarding mandatory lockdown seems to show this effect pretty clearly.

    henrybowman in reply to CommoChief. | April 12, 2021 at 7:13 pm

    And a vaccination administered tomorrow doesn’t become effective until 2-6 weeks from tomorrow. You can run all you want, but you’ll jut die tired.

      CommoChief in reply to henrybowman. | April 12, 2021 at 7:44 pm

      Henry the point is added vaccine to MI at the expense of other States isn’t going to change the current problem.

      That problem is the decision to defer exposure and thus some level of resistance in younger healthy population via imposition of mandatory lockdown.

      Immunity and/or resistance is developed through a vaccination or exposure. Had MI allowed for a more open approach then the healthier, younger working age population would have a higher level of immunity/resistance from contracting and recovering from Rona over the past 14 months.

      Unfortunately, the people of MI allowed the feckless policies of Gov Whitmer to stand. Heck, even she seems to finally understand this based on her reluctance to gin up another mandate.

      The.distribution of the limited quantity of vaccines based upon population of each State is entirely reasonable. Deviation to send extra to MI means less available in other States.

      As you said, ‘a vaccination administered tomorrow doesn’t become effective for 2 + weeks’. So taking the vaccine from someone in another State will show up in higher cases in a few weeks, it will do zero to stop what is happening in MI today, tomorrow and potentially up to six weeks later.

        Valerie in reply to CommoChief. | April 12, 2021 at 11:42 pm

        Yeah, but if they ALSO had people take a course of zinc and an ionophore, plus C, D and a multi-vitamin with trace selenium, the infections-in-between could be eliminated.

          CommoChief in reply to Valerie. | April 13, 2021 at 10:05 am

          Anecdotally, that was my experience. I was taking a small base of D, zinc and magnesium to supplement a multi vitamin. I was outdoors as much as possible.

          I got Rona, increased doses (IU) of those supplements and had only a 36 hour period of chills and very slight fever. I did have a persistent headache two days prior to that and two days after with body ache and weakness.

          All those symptoms peaked during the 36 hour period and then tapered off. So about a six day period of symptoms but only a 36 hour period of severe symptoms.

          It is near criminal that our public health system won’t push out the information regarding simple vitamins that, in my case and others, worked to mitigate the intensity and duration of the Rona.

          The_Mew_Cat in reply to Valerie. | April 14, 2021 at 6:12 pm

          It also may be effective to wash your sinuses out with salt water every morning. Anyone who has ever had sinus surgery knows how to do this.

      iowan2 in reply to henrybowman. | April 12, 2021 at 11:03 pm

      “Effective” is turned into a weasle word. Poorly defined.

      The govt gestapo wants you to think you will die if you contract the virus a week after the 1st shot. Nope. after a week you are 100% protected from dying. If infected, you will suffer through a cold. All the vaccines are 100% effective at keeping you alive.

        mark311 in reply to iowan2. | April 14, 2021 at 2:36 am

        Plain wrong, none of the vaccines claim 100% efficy, some are around 90%. And the efficy over time is more difficult to assess dependant on the vaccine and the number shots required.

      But in order to reach herd immunity (by the WHO’s new definition) you must administer the vaccines. The old definition allowed for surviving the disease, but no any more.

    Brave Sir Robbin in reply to CommoChief. | April 13, 2021 at 12:04 am

    “IMO the case ‘surge’ we see in Northern States now are due to previous lockdown which can limit but never eliminate spread.”

    Lockdowns do not limit spread, because a huge number of people must be out and about, and then they bring their infection gain thereby into closed and confined quarters shared with other people who have no place to go but to remain in those closed and confined quarters, and thereby become infected themselves.

      CommoChief in reply to Brave Sir Robbin. | April 13, 2021 at 9:55 am

      Robbin

      I am NOT advocating for another period of lockdown in MI or anywhere else.

      That said a lockdown of a short duration absolutely will limit/mitigate the degree of exposure and spread as opposed to no mitigation protocol. How much? I don’t know. Certainly some degree of lessened transmission.

      My point above is that in MI now the cases are folks who in the absence of previous lockdown would have already had Rona and thus some degree of natural resistance.

      So if MI had followed the policy of FL then many of the people just now becoming a case would have already been a case. IMO the current higher case numbers in the generally northern blue states is because their policy of lockdown essentially deferred the exposure and thus cases.

      The alternative strategy of prioritizing the elderly and other vulnerable populations while allowing the young and healthier population to contract Rona, survive and develop natural resistance has placed the States who followed that strategy much closer to herd immunity.

Ministre des Finances to HRH: “Dietary switch to cake recommended.”

Where does the left find assholes like this? Is there an agency or something?

The sickest thing about this is that this is all about as rise in cases that aren’t truly cases. The CDC knows this and knows that that deaths from all causes are not out of the normal range. Yet they continue to peddle the fear porn. These people are not scientists; they are nasty, evil bureaucrats with an agenda designed to destroy the nation.

CDC is right, actually.

Vaccines won’t solve the problem and if you have a big outbreak and have live virus, the mRNA vaccines can make your symptoms much worse and lead to hospitalization. A spike in cases means more caution should be taken as to who is safe to be vaccinated at that time.

    DSHornet in reply to healthguyfsu. | April 13, 2021 at 9:17 am

    A cousin in his early 70s developed symptoms a couple of days after his second shot. In spite of the fact he was in exceptional health, thinking nothing of riding his bicycle 30-40 miles several times a week and eating well, he has been in the hospital for almost four weeks in critical but stable condition. So what you said may explain why he is so desperately ill. He may have contracted the virus the day he got the shot. The timing was right for him, but how could he have known?
    .

      That is one problem with vaccination: you bring a large number of people together and inevitably somebody with it is going to pass it to people without it, even if they’re in the process of getting shot for it. My son-in-law caught it during/before/at his vaccination due to other people contact, but at least the shot kept him from getting it too bad. Three days, *and* he had the flu at the same time. Double-positive tests. Yuch.

Maybe, just maybe, they could try early outpatient treatment for the people who are infected. California is still in lockdown, AND they send sick people home UNTREATED so they can show up at the hospital three weeks later.

The lockdowns and mask mandates may not be the real problem with transmission of infections, they just aren’t effective to stop transmission.

Failure to treat sick people until they have to be hospitalized just might be the real problem.

CDC Director Rejects Michigan’s Plea for COVID Vaccines, Suggests State Continue to prove Einstein’s definition of insanity.

there…fixed.

Love to watch these little Nazis extending their arms up and shouting at the top of their lungs, SIG HEIL.Next they will be rounding up Jews and Christians and send them to the “reeducation” camps. Heir Beijing Biden is doing his best to ruin this once great country. Letting in millions of ILLEGAL Immigrants who are bring the disease with them. How STUPID is that?

But it takes a couple weeks for an infection to manifest itself – that’s what the CDC has been saying — praying for! — regarding the States which have opened. So shutting down the State isn’t going to flatten the curve, either, for a couple of weeks — by CDC’s own pronouncements.

CDC Director Walensky can’t even keep her own story straight. Neither can Fauci. Is that a job requirement at CDC?

Rochelle Walensky is so far out of her depth.

Let us remember how the incompetence of the Centers of Disease Control in the early days of the pandemic contributed importantly to its damage.

Endotracheal application of ultraviolet A light in critically ill severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus-2 patients: A first-in-human study
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.05.21252997v1

Sounds like something the press laughed about

The last thing Walensky wants is to surge “vaccinations” in Michigan, then to see that it does nothing against the rise in cases, either now, in two weeks, six weeks or ever. This would be another proof the shots are no good.

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