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Tucker Confronts Gov. Noem After She Caves to NCAA Over Bill Banning Trans Athletes From Women’s Sports

Tucker Confronts Gov. Noem After She Caves to NCAA Over Bill Banning Trans Athletes From Women’s Sports

Carlson to Noem: “Why not instead just say, ‘bring it on NCAA. I’m a national figure, go ahead and try to exclude us. I will fight you in the court of public opinion and defend principle.’”

Tucker Carlson confronted South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem (R) over her decision to send back a bill banning biological men from participating in women’s sports.

Instead, Noem wants to create “a coalition separate from the bill” after she consulted legal scholars and professors.

The exchange became hostile, with Noem proclaiming she didn’t want to “pick a fight that we can’t win.”

From The Daily Caller:

“So you are saying the NCAA threatened you and you don’t think you can win that fight,” Carlson asked Noem. “They said if you sign this we won’t allow girls in South Dakota to play, and you don’t think you can win in court even though the public overwhelmingly supports you nationally, and so you are caving to the NCAA? I think that’s what you are saying?”

“No,” Noem responded. “That’s not right at all, Tucker. In fact, you are wrong, completely.”

“I’m sick and tired of the NCAA threatening states, challenging us and bullying us,” Noem said. “So we are going to build a coalition of leaders, athletes and people who want to protect women’s sports and want to make sure that our women keep Title IX in place to protect their right to be competitive and to be rewarded by participating in these team sports and make sure this coalition can fight the NCAA to make sure we are protecting Title IX.”

“But these standards far predate Title IX,” Carlson responded. “And I’m not sure why Title IX is relevant or even really worth defending. This is thousands years years of common sense and tradition. Girls play girls sports and boys play boys sports. Why not instead just say, ‘bring it on NCAA. I’m a national figure, go ahead and try to exclude us. I will fight you in the court of public opinion and defend principle.’ Why not just do that?” Carlson said.

Noem said that she was fighting the NCAA by creating the coalition Monday, to which Carlson told her, “You vetoed the bill.”

“I did not veto the bill,” Noem fired back. “I asked the legislature to change it so I can win.”

“I have been bullied for the last year by liberals, Tucker,” she continued. “I’m not going to let anybody from the NCAA, from any big business, I’m not even going to let conservatives on the right bully me. I’m going to solve the problem. I’m going to make sure that we are building strength in numbers and we are going after the NCAA and make sure that we are keeping only girls playing in girls sports.”

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That leaves Ron DeSantis and Tom Cotton. And as Scott Adams of Dilbert fame has said “I just don’t see blacks saying ‘I’m picking Cotton’ in 2024.”

DeSantis it is, then.

    I agree, I like DeSantis for 2024 at this point. I am just selfishly sad that means I will lose the best Florida governor in my lifetime. But I am happy to relinquish a seriously great, America First gov for our entire country.

      I agree also, and wonder why someone downvoted you.

        Thanks, gibbie. Yeah, of all my comments that seems a weird one to downvote, but I won’t sweat it. Votes on comments are only visible for a limited time, and I really don’t care who “likes” what I have to say because I believe what I say. Anyone is free to disagree with their downvote. It’s all good.

        gonzotx in reply to gibbie. | March 23, 2021 at 5:03 am

        Probably big thumbs

        Skip in reply to gibbie. | March 23, 2021 at 5:09 am

        Down votes do happen by accident, BTW was happy to get rid of Dr Levine for the opposite reason, I wanted the whole country to enjoy him/her/xhe, whatever.

      TheOldZombie in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | March 23, 2021 at 12:54 am

      Yes. Losing DeSantis would be bad for Florida. I do hope there is someone that can step in to fill his shoes if he becomes POTUS.

    alaskabob in reply to WestRock. | March 22, 2021 at 11:04 pm

    Didn’t Cotton “Flake” out also recently? Signing the bill would have created a strong coalition. Now it’s a committee thing and wanting a consensus. I would have thought she would have been in there helping fashion the bill rather than reacting to it. Disappointing now but a lot better than later. It will still wind up being challenged by the NCAA unless uselessly watered down.

    Who needs a committee when XX does not equal XY and vice versa?

      Milhouse in reply to alaskabob. | March 23, 2021 at 2:03 am

      No, alaska, if the bill is altered as she requested the NCAA will not be able to challenge it, because it won’t cover college sports. School girls will still be protected, and Noem can start up a coalition to fight the NCAA on college sports. Without the amendment the NCAA will boycott S Dakota and the state will have real way to fight back.

And with that, her political career is over. But it’s good we find this out now before anyone seriously considers spineless Kristi take the knee Noem for 2024. Bright side, people, bright side!

    Nope. This kind of “disagree with me on one issue and I damn you to hell” attitude is what the rabid leftists do, Cut it out.

      True, rabid leftists do that, too. But I think the propensity to appease, to bend a knee, is a deal-breaker. Period. I am completely done with picking someone who is “mostly” aligned with my worldview, and I completely reject anyone who is a knee-taking wimp in the face of a controversial issue. If she can’t stand her ground here, she can’t stand her ground on the world stage.

      I do take your point, but I am not going to conform to some “gee, yeah, except her thinking men competing against women is good” thing, she’s just the best. Yeah. No.

      This is a fundamental issue that needs to be addressed with strength and principle, not wavering weakness and bowing to the amoral, illogical left. If she had stood firm, she would have my support, but she did not. So she does not.

      There is no policy that will ever overshadow her weakness, her appeasing frame of mind. Appeasement is the wrong tactic, always. It empowers the appeased at the expense of the appeaser. It’s weak tea swirled around in weak as water malleability. Once you cave, you are framed to always cave. I do not trust an appeaser, I have no respect for a caver, and Noem will never be president.

        I largely agree with what you said but with the caveat that if she is actually trying to build a coalition of states that will boycott the NCAA if it retaliates then do it together and pulls it off (It isn’t likely this is purely a hypothetical) wouldn’t that show she wasn’t buckling but just calling in reinforcements?

        As I said I find that highly unlikely this is purely a hypothetical, for now it seems big business triumphs again.

          Hmm, good question on its surface, but I don’t think the government, even at the state level, can “boycott” private enterprises as you suggest. They may be able to disallow NCAA events in their state on some basis, but it won’t be because they are threatening to boycott the state/s in question. Retaliatory government action is not lawful.

          Yeah, I’m completely over big business at this point. File under: a sentence I never thought I, a conservative capitalist American, would ever write. They aren’t businesses anymore, they are Democrat fascist arms more interested in SJW cultural warfare than the business of business. That puts them on the wrong side in my view. Tax them to hell and back, regulate the crap out of them, break them up, and be done with this soft tyranny of “private-public commie Democrat partnerships.”

      Milhouse in reply to gibbie. | March 23, 2021 at 2:13 am

      Gibbie, it’s not even that. Noem doesn’t disagree with Fuzzy or anyone else on this issue.

      Fuzzy, you have no right to accuse her of “thinking men competing against women is good”. She’s said over and over that she doesn’t. But banning it in college sports will just mean the state is completely shut out of the NCAA. How is she supposed to fight that?

      Carlson says “in the court of public opinion”; what the hell does the NCAA care about that? Can it be subpoenaed in that court?! Can that court impose penalties and make them stick?! Big Sports has already shown what it thinks of the public; being woke is far more important to it.

      Picking your fights and doing what you can do first is not “caving”, it’s statesmanship. Tell me, do you think school girls should be held hostage for the college women? Because that is what you are saying when you oppose Noem’s proposed amendment.

        caseoftheblues in reply to Milhouse. | March 23, 2021 at 6:37 am

        What is going on here with Noem is her Chief of Staff is a Chamber of Commerce plant who Noem is allowing to call the shots…he has spun a nice tale she has swallowed whole but what we are seeing is she isnt strong enough or bright to see thru and stand up to this manipulation.

        This is a fair point, Milhouse, but I disagree. She may not think that, but her actions reinforce that it is okay for biological men to compete in women’s sports at the collegiate level. That’s not okay. College sports are the gateway to the Olympics and to professional sports careers, gateways that are being barred by men competing against women. This is a very real problem for female atheletes and harms their future aspirations in their sports field.

        As to her bowing to the NCAA, well, if she bows to them, she’s going to be utterly useless defending us or our allies on a global scale. Gee, if we keep our embassy in Jerusalem (or whatever policy unpopular with our enemies), our enemies are threatening to boycott the U.S. or halt oil imports or threatening terror/war or whatever, so let’s just move it to avoid that unpleasentness.

        Sorry, a wimp is a wimp is a wimp. That’s just my opinion, though, and I can see why people support Noem (even if I, personally, do not).

      She opened herself for everyone to view her voting record when she was in Congress: it was horrible!!

      MarkS in reply to gibbie. | March 23, 2021 at 8:10 am

      No, it’s show yourself to be a weak willed phony and we don’t need you

      MattMusson in reply to gibbie. | March 23, 2021 at 8:41 am

      You can flame me but I live in Charlotte where the city council passed a bathroom bill prohibiting biological men from using women’s “public” bathrooms. It never applied to any private companies bathroom facilities.

      Charlotte lost several big conventions and the NBA Allstar game. And, the HR Departments of all the Major Companies were up in arms. And, Bank of America threatened to begin leaving the city.

      That simple common sense measure cost the city at least 100 million dollars in income.
      And, yes, the NCAA moved out bowl game out.

        MattMusson in reply to MattMusson. | March 23, 2021 at 8:42 am

        Noem was right when she said the South Dakota could not win this battle by themselves.

          My2centshere in reply to MattMusson. | March 23, 2021 at 12:33 pm

          I listened to an interview by Glenn Beck with her this am and she explained in a very calm way about the whole picture. This was about keeping out the ability for schools to be sued at a whim. Changing the legislation to exclude colleges from the original draft was what she did. Everyone goes crazy and accuses that she has failed to govern in a conservative way but I think she did exactly that.

      ss396 in reply to gibbie. | March 23, 2021 at 10:01 am

      Gov. Noem also sued up to the Supreme Court to allow South Dakota to collect sales taxes from every business in the nation who happens to sell something to a South Dakotan – overlooking that it is the purchaser who owes the sales tax, not the retailer. Rather than using her State’s Use Tax laws, she decided to make a tax agent out of the entire commercial sector. Yeah, there’s a $200,000 exemption, but if she knows that some out-of-State business sold $200,000 worth of merchandise, then she can jolly well go after her own citizens instead of threatening every commercial business in the country with a tax audit.

      That one was already a deal breaker for me: rather than do the hard work of enforcing her own dang laws, she outsources it to the rest of the country. Again, sales taxes are owed by the purchaser, so go after them.

      The Friendly Grizzly in reply to gibbie. | March 23, 2021 at 4:57 pm

      Lots of pure-itans on the right.

    CommoChief in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | March 23, 2021 at 11:11 am

    Wow. It’s a bit early for making that kind of statement; before we see how this plays out. Ship wrecked over at Red State has posted what I believe is a very thoughtful analysis, worth your time to look at.

    Bottom line is the legislature pushed up a horribly unworkable and almost certainly indefensible bill. That legislation would not advance the ball because it was, IMO, flawed.

    What Gov Noam is doing is a simply tactical analysis and battlefield preparation. Look if some dude wants to fight you and won’t take no for an answer but then brings six of his friends to help him when you step out into the parking lot and you don’t reevaluate the situation then you deserve the ass kicking you will assuredly receive.

    What the Gov did is recognize that the State was going to lose the fight with the legislation in it’s current form. She sent revisions back to the legislature so that the coming fight is on a more equal footing.

    Fighting a losing battle or a lost cause may be justified where there is no alternative. A tactical retreat to better legal ground and gathering allies isn’t an abandonment of the cause.

I watched the whole exchange and it was not hostile. Tucker was tough on her but she didn’t back down either. I prefer to wait and see what she does rather than sign a bill that is popular with the public and to have it go down in flames when the NCAA does challenge it. Then she’d be blamed for not listening to the legal experts she consulted. Besides DeSantis who else on the Republican side as the balls that she does to go after the other side and stand by what she believes to be the right thing to do. Lets just wait and see.

Colonel Travis | March 22, 2021 at 10:58 pm

Opposing this transnonsense is a no-brainer, there is no way I could support her for president if she can’t fight this crap.

    She is fighting it.

      amwick in reply to MTED. | March 23, 2021 at 7:33 am

      Maybe.. but if it appears that she caved,,, she caved. Optics are everything now, and this little dance she did was bad, very bad. It used to be that one “oh shit” cancelled out a thousand “attaboys”… Now it is one and done.

Why is it o.k. to call any woman a C word? It’s just plain ugly to do so.

For those attacking Noem you can be sure she got told that the bill as written would not pass legal challenge. Especially with an administration which is determined to make Title IX include gender identity.

Now not being a lawyer I could be wrong but with a bill such as this you want the tightest, clearest language possible so there is no mistaking intent and how it is to be put into action. Remember the people who write the bills and sign it are not the same ones who decide how to make it work in real life. A poorly written law put in the hands of a rule making agency that is hostile to that law can really mess up the original intent of the law.

So getting it right matters. I’ve also never seen any rule or law written with reference that it must make common sense.

    WestRock in reply to JRaeL. | March 23, 2021 at 6:46 am

    Happy to see it removed this morning.

    “Now not being a lawyer I could be wrong but with a bill such as this you want the tightest, clearest language possible so there is no mistaking intent and how it is to be put into action.”

    You underestimate the willingness of the courts to rule exactly as they wish regardless of what the law or the Constitution says (see: Trump’s “Muslim ban”, Roberts’ Obamacare ruling, etc). State and Federal judges have a sordid history of doing what they want no matter how flimsy their legal reasoning is.

The issue starts with puberty… when the physical advantages begin to develop for males in athletics. That’s a good threshold… When that starts, no crossing over in sports.

Alaskabob, there are differences in development between boys and girls that manifest before puberty. That is why age group record performances are different for boys and girls. Girls reach puberty before boys. It would be wrong to force 3rd grade girls and boys to compete against each other, just as it is wrong to force 12th grade girls and boys to compete.

What is the public policy goal — to have fair competition at all ages and to allow personal development and self-confidence through sports? Society has a track record for providing that to 99% of girls. If we exclude transsexuals and developmentally challenged girls, we can still provide a positive experience for that 99%. We can provide some other experience for the 1%, but not at the expense of the 99%. That is biology, not malicious discrimination.

She lost my support. She’s as appealing to me as Jeb! Glad we found out before she got on DeSanti’s ticket. She showed a real lack of instinct here.

Face facts. The NCAA won’t fight South Dakota in court. They’ll amputate any collegiate sports outside of SD while the ACLU and the DOJ use the unlimited power of the US Government and taxpayer dollars to hammer the state. They’re not going to fight to win, they’ll fight to embarrass and siphon any support away from Noem for years until they can defeat her in an election, at which point whoever replaces her will cave.

She doesn’t want SD to be used as a DOJ punching bag, so she’s keeping the focus on *inside* the state, where the vast majority of the damage to SD citizens will take place.

Gotta be honest, I stopped paying attention as soon as she invoked Title IX.

Sports are a nice extracurricular at an academic institution, but they’re not part of its mission and no student has any right to athletics any more than they have a right to a Chess Club. Feminists have been using Title IX for decades to siphon university funding to sports no one wants to watch. Athletic scholarships for either sex are a grift; feminists are just mad they weren’t getting any of the score.

Feminists used the federal government to force universities to pay for their little trifles, and now they’re mad the same hammer is being used to take their trifles away. I don’t care. Let them fight.

George_Kaplan | March 23, 2021 at 5:07 am

Well that suggest Noem could be out of the running for 2024. What I don’t understand is why the NCAA would be attacking those seeking to protect sports. That’s like a cancer patient attacking a doctor trying to cure them.

    The NCAA is a business that sells Wokeism wrapped in a sports jersey.

    The NCAA is also counting on fans not being turned off in large enough numbers to threaten their business model. The experience of the woker-than-thou NFL (a small loss of revenue and viewership but not nearly enough to threaten their business model) must hearten the lefty satraps of the NCAA. And if men with skirts take away scholarships from actual women, the NCAA can just blame “white supremacy” or other similar rubbish, and fans will be none the wiser (it is a solid bet the women themselves will barely raise a fuss).

I doubt I will support Noem after this for anything more than another term as governor. It’s also a reason why you never fall for a candidate early.

For those defending her or saying give her a chance – this is not a case of saying I would stay home and not vote for her on the ticket for Governor. But we need people 100% onboard for the fight as Trump was undermined and Republicans continue to be undermined by Toomey, Romney, Tillis, Raffensperger, etc we don’t need weak kneed Republicans. We don’t need more Nikki Haley’s. Nikki was a good governor better than any Democrat but I want people willing to fight media, corporate etc for the right principles, take things to the Supreme Court, etc

If she is willing to go back and fight for NCAA instead of a watered down bill and get it passed, great. Until she does that, she’s not on my list.

Rumor is she caved under NCAA and Corporare (banking) pressure – I don’t know if that’s true. Time will tell.

But to me her actions don’t add up yet. Is she a true warrior or is she Scott Walker? Walker was a great governor and fought some great battles but was too establishment on a few key issues despite that. Walker did a great job for Wisconsin but clearly wasn’t up to the larger task.

DeSantis on the other hand proves himself over and over. Right now, he is the front runner and I wish we could clone him and have him govern 30 states too. He has 3 more years to prove himself but if he keeps it up he will have a lot of MAGA votes and will show everyone how to fight.

Governor Noem is entitled to the benefit of the doubt, at least for now.

She first claims that some unknown and unnamed “legal scholars” told her the bill will not survive a legal challenge and her solution is to claim that by getting public opinion on her side that then somehow the bill becomes legal?

This is what is wrong with politicians on the Right. They aren’t willing to put their careers on the line for principle. Threaten their re-election chances and they cave. Every time.

On the left, they don’t have to worry about it as the establishment will cover and promote them regardless.

Amazing at the name calling because Noem isn’t doing things how we like. If we want to look like adolescents pouting about things not going our way, this is a good place to start.

How many time have we missed enjoying the benefit of a good law that was successfully challenged on the basis of vague language? Too many to count, so let’s not hand the NCAA and “progress”ives a golden opportunity to challenge this one. Noem _clearly_ said she wants something that can hold up in court. Not wanting that would make the whole process a waste of time.

Instead of screaming at the sky (and we know who does that), we need to wait and see what the final product will be.
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    freespeechfanatic in reply to DSHornet. | March 23, 2021 at 9:23 am

    This is the attitude that has made the GOP a perennial pathetic loser in the trench warfare of politics forever.

    And no one is “screaming at the sky”; we’re screaming, correctly, at Noem — another bony bag of cowardice blathering about pragmatism and consensus as our country and culture are being devoured by the Left.

      So you’re saying there needs to be a single platform with acceptable or pre-approved views and decisions. Everyone in lockstep. That sounds eerily like another party. I’m not saying Noem is on the right path here, because frankly she hasn’t said anything intelligible about it yet. But I can’t jump on the wagon you’re on either.

        “That sounds eerily like another party.

        Yep. The party that always hands the Republicans their asses in every fight. The Democrats stick together while hanging the Republicans separately.

I’m usually someone who doesn’t join in with people who immediately write off somebody because of one bad opinion or one bad vote. Especially when they can reasonable explain their actions or words.

But her interview last night was basically word salad for me. Mostly nonsense. It isn’t clear what she doesn’t like nor what she is asking to be changed. The babble that it has to do with her taxpayer’s money and the NCAA and something…….whatever, was never explained beyond a general idea. Which is a purely political explanation. Broad. No specifics. But an attempt to hit passion buttons. I’ll wait to see what the hell she was really talking about, but right now it’s clear to me she is just trying to build a political shield not a logic or fact defense. Sad.

So this is a perfect example of why the Progressives get their way. South Dakota Governor trying to form a “Coalition” and work on what would be considered a proper plan to get a consensus to get something accomplished. For Progressives, all they have to do is condemn somebody or something on Social Media, and the whole world caves in! Corporations and Politicians immediately give in “consensus” and “Coalition” be damned!

freespeechfanatic | March 23, 2021 at 9:16 am

“with Noem proclaiming she didn’t want to “pick a fight that we can’t win.”

Oh, it’s not the hill to die on? I see. Well this will certainly improve her stock with the GOPe.

As Ace of Spades said, “Done. Next?”

Any specifics about how the bill should be rewritten that will accomplish the goal of protecting biological women against having to compete against men that will satisfy the NCAA?

Seems to me she may be looking for a substitute that will satisfy the NCAA but fail on accomplishing the stated goal. That is winning? Forming an undefined “coalition” to win the wrong battle that fails to achieve the main objective is winning?

Better she fight and lose for now and accept being booted out of the NCAA. Biological women lose either way but the woman vote SHOULD be lost nationwide if she fights THAT battle.

She seems to be trying to fight the wrong battles on favorable turf for reasons that she is not making clear. Fighting and winning the wrong battles does not win wars.

    Milhouse in reply to Pasadena Phil. | March 23, 2021 at 6:28 pm

    It’s pretty clear what she wants. First pass a bill that protects high school girls, which the NCAA won’t fight. They can be protected now, so they should be; they shouldn’t be held hostage to the fight over protecting college women.

    Once that’s done, then figure out a way to protect college women as well. That will mean taking on the NCAA, which is impossible for SD to do on its own; it would get squashed. To take on the NCAA, SD will need allies. If a dozen or so states act together, they may be able to force the NCAA to swallow it. But in the meantime the high school girls shouldn’t have to wait.

      Why wasn’t she involved in creating the bill? She e-mails triumphantly when it is finally released, is besieged by unnamed “lawyers” and other “advisors” and instantly goes into the usual GOP jazz hands and jimmy legs dance. She may know what she wants but she won’t explain it nor fight for it. “We need a committee/coalition.” West Virginia’s governor has a good description for committees: “People who never accomplished anything who meet to finally decide that they can’t do anything. When asked to calculate the number of cattle in a herd, they count the legs and divide by four.” That’s how West Virginia became #1 in the US for vaccination effectiveness. No committees. Just do it.

        Milhouse in reply to Pasadena Phil. | March 24, 2021 at 2:13 am

        Since when are governors involved in creating bills? That’s a legislative function.

          It’s HER issue! SHE is the one who took it upon herself to spearhead the cause and went national with it! SHE is the one who wanted the legislature to write this bill and crowed about it before reading it! Where do you get the idea that governors don’t get involved with the process of crafting bills? It’s just another example for how she just isn’t up to the task of spearheading anything. She doesn’t have the spine to LEAD.

Trans/neo-females. Trans/homosexual females only differ in sexual orientation.

I’m willing to wait and watch this play out. She makes a good argument about wanting to solve the problem, and creating a coalition to do so. Now whether or not this is genuine or not, maybe we will see. On the one hand she could have just caved, as so many are saying, OTOH, it could mean that she’s willing to take the heat to try something different that will actually do something. Just like Trump took a completely different tack from conventional foreign policy and actually produced real results. So let’s see where this goes before canceling Governor Noem from the right, there is plenty of time.

Guys, we seem to be conflating what are, IMO, two separate things.
1. Role and authority of State in a federal system
2. Trans issues for children (under 18) v adults

IMO each State can and should chart it’s own course. If Alabama TX ECT choose to not allow ‘gender therapy’ to children nor allow biological males to compete in State sanctioned athletic competition that’s the choice of the citizens of those States.

If California ECT choose the opposite, we may not agree with that decision, but that is the choice the citizens of those States made and will have to live with.

The biggest question to me is whether any child should be undergoing any sort of treatment under this idea of gender identity. IMO the clear answer is Hell no.

Now what about adults? IMO if Joe wants to be Jane ….well ok. Joe/Jane is an adult and if not under psychiatric confinement is, legally fully capable of making their own decisions. I don’t presume to understand why one would make that choice but if they are of sound mind who am I tell them no?

Once again for emphasis; children should not be making that decision nor should any parent or guardian be allowed to do so lest they do irreparable physical and psychological damage to a child for reasons unrelated to the well-being of that child.

    tbonesays in reply to CommoChief. | March 23, 2021 at 3:44 pm

    If California et al go one way, that way will be the official policy of the Federal Gov in the next cycle. It’s hard to find an example where Washington DC followed a decision made in South Dakota.

    If Gov Noem wants to lead a coalition, she should show the world that she is willing to fight the battle. Caving to the NCAA does the opposite.

      Milhouse in reply to tbonesays. | March 23, 2021 at 6:33 pm

      She’s willing to fight the battle with enough allies. Trying to fight on her own would not be brave, it would be stupid. When you’re a small state you don’t pick a fight with a giant like the NCAA, because there is no possible way to win. But a dozen states together might stand a chance. Her point is that the high school girls deserve to be protected now, and shouldn’t be held hostage. The NCAA won’t object to protecting them, so it should be done now.

      CommoChief in reply to tbonesays. | March 23, 2021 at 10:19 pm

      tbone,

      Show willing to fight…

      Ok. Lets try this analogy:

      The future of Gun rights/ 2nd amendment depends on the outcome of the case and set of facts you choose:

      1. The wife of a deputy sheriff uses an AR-15 to kill multiple armed assailants who have broken into her home, threatening to kill her and her children in revenge/retaliation for her husband arresting a member of their criminal organization earlier in the week.

      2. Cletus and Bubba observe a person unknown to them who appears to be non Caucasian running down the street. They drop their beer cans, grab their shotguns and chase the unknown man down the street. When the man is finally caught he doesn’t respond to their demands for information or their demands to lie down. He reaches into the pocket of his light weight jacket…Cletus and Bubba open fire killing the unknown man…who was reaching for his ID card from the school for the deaf he attends. He didn’t have other ID because he is 14 years old.

      Both take place in rural Alabama. One of those sets of facts is a sure winner. The other is a sure loser.

      What Gov Noam is doing is making sure that the set of facts she is defending is as strong as possible. Make no mistake, the d/progressive lawfare groups are well funded, well coordinated, have the media on their side, have much of the judiciary on their side and almost all the intellectual class on their side.

      Our opponents have us outnumbered and outgunned. Given all that it is entirely sensible for Gov Noam to do everything possible to shape the battlefield prior and to fight on the ground of her choosing.

      It is always a bad idea to allow the enemy to dictate the terms of the engagement. The lessons of military strategy and tactics are very much applicable to political fights. Please read Sun Tzu for an old school perspective or John Boyd and his OODA loop thesis for a more modern perspective. Lots of others to choose from.

      IMO fighting and losing just to be able able to say ‘I fought’ makes one a loser. Much better to fight when one can achieve victory.

“…’I’m sick and tired of the NCAA threatening states, challenging us and bullying us,’ Noem said. ‘So we are going to build a coalition of leaders, athletes and people who want to protect women’s sports …’.”

Losers always mumble something about coalition building right before they go full metal Quisling, hoist the white flag, and flee the battlefield in abject terror. This is why you never, ever, fall in love with a politician. Leave the politician worship/Mueller votive candles to the left (yes, the leftists have political-figure votive candles; they apparently pray to them the way Catholics use votive candles to pray for the intercession of the saints).

It’s best we find out now how much of a fraud Kristi Noem really is.

Jumping to conclusions. Like, “That video proves that cop murdered George Floyd”. I hope the jurors are more open minded.

Definition of “open minded”: A person being willing to consider the possibility that he/she is wrong.

    Arminius in reply to gibbie. | March 24, 2021 at 8:21 am

    Sure, but I’ll tell you what I’m not wrong about. The GOP has controlled the SD state senate for a quarter of a century. The state house for nearly half a century. And this governor couldn’t even build a “coalition” within her own state’s Republican party? Now, she says she’ll build a coalition of states? Good luck with that.

    It reminds me of Bill DeBlasio. He can’t arrange to get the snow removed from the city streets or the garbage picked-up. Too hard! So he’ll “save the world” and tackle “global climate disaster” instead.

    https://babylonbee.com/news/woman-who-thought-being-a-princess-was-too-hard-plans-to-run-for-president

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