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What we do and don’t know about deaths connected to the Capitol Hill Riot

What we do and don’t know about deaths connected to the Capitol Hill Riot

Surprisingly little is known about what caused the five deaths, other than the shooting of Ashli Babbit, or the circumstances surrounding the deaths.

https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1346894172574404613

You may have noticed that quite often when the MSM refers to the Capitol riots of January 6 the word “riots” is modified by the word “deadly”. And of course this is correct: those riots were deadly. But what do we now know about those deaths?

Surprisingly little, considering that a month has passed since January 6 and the coverage of the riots has been nothing if not intense. And yet, for the most part, the initial “fog of war” reports have not been substantially modified.

By saying that the riots were deadly – and often adding that five people were killed – the articles may encourage readers to forget the nature of those deaths and even to fill in the blanks with the thought that the rioters killed five people and killed them purposely. But three of those deaths were described this way in a January 7 article:

Those people were Rosanne Boyland, 34, of Kennesaw, Georgia; Kevin Greeson, 55, of Athens, Alabama; and Benjamin Phillips, 50, of Ringtown, Pennsylvania, the Metropolitan Police Department said.

Boyland collapsed at the Capitol, where police performed CPR, 11Alive.com reported. She was taken to a hospital, but did not survive.

Greeson’s family said in a statement that the Trump supporter suffered a heart attack during the chaos, The News Courier reported.

Phillips, who had organized a group to drive to Washington, D.C., from his home state, died of an apparent stroke after being taken to George Washington University Hospital, the Philadelphia Inquirer reported.

It sounds as though the deaths of Greeson and Phillips were probably natural events, perhaps brought on by stress. We have other articles such as this one from Reuters headlined, “Trump to blame for death of woman trampled in Capitol riot, family member says.” In it, 34-year-old Rosanne Boyland’s death is described this way:

The brother-in-law of a woman killed during Wednesday’s assault on the U.S. Capitol by a mob seeking to overturn President Donald Trump’s election loss said he blames Trump for the riot, and has joined calls for him to be removed from office…

Police did not disclose the cause of Boyland’s death.

However, Justin Winchell, a friend who accompanied Boyland to a Trump rally near the White House and marched with her to the Capitol, told Atlanta CBS affiliate WGCL that she was trampled to death in a massive crowd surge when protesters clashed with Capitol Police…

Asked if Trump was to blame for his friend’s death, Winchell said: “Does he have blood on his hands? No!”

Here’s a description and some video alleged to be of what Winchell is describing above, and featuring one man who attacks an officer with a hockey stick (the man, named Michael Foy, is a Detroit resident now in custody, who is alleged to have suffered recently from substance abuse and mental health problems).

Then we have demonstrator Ashli Babbit, who died from being shot by a person who is reportedly a member of the Capitol Police. The rioters certainly didn’t kill her, and we’ve had very little official word on her death except for the existence of an investigation. We don’t know the identity of the person who shot her, either.

Which leaves the fifth person who died, Capitol Police Officer Sicknick. Again, so far we know very little in terms of statements from officials, although there are certainly many rumors.

Some people may think reports such as this one, of the arrests of rioters who allegedly tried “to crush an officer who was pinned by a mob as it tried to break into the building,” may be describing the infliction of the injuries that might have caused Sicknick’s death. There is video of the alleged crushing – but that video does not involve Officer Sicknick, and the officer in that video did not die.

You may also have read reports that Officer Sicknick was hit in the head by a fire extinguisher thrown or wielded by a rioter and died as a result of that head injury, but the source of that report was not an official statement of the Capitol Police. Their press statement can be found here. The way it is written it’s very difficult to tell what happened, except that some injury to the officer seems to have occurred while the riot was ongoing and he was engaging with protestors. The report doesn’t say his injury was sustained at anyone’s hands, it doesn’t say what the injury was, it doesn’t say how long it was between the injury and his death, it doesn’t say why his injury did not cause him to go to the hospital and why he just went back to his division office (where he collapsed), and it doesn’t mention a fire extinguisher. It also doesn’t say on what basis the Capitol Police concluded he died of that injury or injuries, as opposed to some other cause such as a heart attack:

At approximately 9:30 p.m. this evening (January 7, 2021), United States Capitol Police Officer Brian D. Sicknick passed away due to injuries sustained while on-duty.

Officer Sicknick was responding to the riots on Wednesday, January 6, 2021, at the U.S. Capitol and was injured while physically engaging with protesters. He returned to his division office and collapsed. He was taken to a local hospital where he succumbed to his injuries.

Sicknick’s death is being investigated, but it’s been four weeks and I’ve not seen any recent updates. And yet if a poll was taken right now, I would guess that for most people who know about Sicknick’s death, the majority of them may think that it is a known and proven fact that right-wing Capitol “insurrectionists” killed Sicknick by beating him with a fire extinguisher.

Here’s some typical coverage that attempts to link those dots. It’s from Yahoo:

Sicknick died last Thursday at the hospital, where he was being treated for “injuries sustained while on-duty,” USCP said in a statement. More specifically, this officer was violently struck with a fire extinguisher during the pro-Trump riots at the Capitol on Wednesday.

That first link is to a piece about the Capitol Police report, which says nothing about the fire extinguisher. That second link goes to a Business Insider article that, like so many similar articles, merely states the fire extinguisher story without sourcing it.

In addition, the earliest reports in the MSM actually said that Sicknick had a stroke. For example, here’s a January 12 article on the subject:

The original source of the fire extinguisher story appears to have been two unnamed officers speaking to the NY Times (headline: “He Dreamed of Being a Police Officer, Then Was Killed by a Pro-Trump Mob”). That story, however, was contradicted by Officer Sicknick’s family, according to this article:

Moreover, the website ProPublica offered a different explanation.

It quoted Ken Sicknick, whom the site identified as the late officer’s brother, as saying that Brian Sicknick had communicated with his family and never mentioned a fire extinguisher attack.

“He texted me last night and said, ‘I got pepper-sprayed twice,’ and he was in good shape,” said Ken Sicknick. “Apparently he collapsed in the Capitol and they resuscitated him using CPR.”

The site said that on Thursday, family members were told that the officer had a blood clot and suffered a stroke and was on a ventilator…

According to what ABC called “sources familiar with the matter,” authorities believe Brian Sicknick’s death was driven by a medical condition.

So ABC had also reported the story that a medical condition was the cause of Officer Sicknick’s death. The ABC report also says this:

They’re also investigating reports that he was attacked with a fire extinguisher or another item at the Capitol, sources said. So far, reports of an attack haven’t been confirmed and authorities are hoping to locate video or other imagery from the scene.

That was written on January 8. To date, I’ve not been able to find further mention that such a confirmation has occurred, or any video or other imagery about it.

Recently this CNN article appeared (February 2) which is headlined, “Investigators struggle to build murder case in death of US Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick.” What is the struggle about, and what is the case for murder so far? Why, it’s about finding no evidence at all that Sicknick sustained any injury at the hands of rioters [emphasis mine]:

Investigators are struggling to build a federal murder case regarding fallen US Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick, vexed by a lack of evidence that could prove someone caused his death as he defended the Capitol during last month’s insurrection.

Authorities have reviewed video and photographs that show Sicknick engaging with rioters amid the siege but have yet to identify a moment in which he suffered his fatal injuries, law enforcement officials familiar with the matter said.

Note how cleverly this is written. The reader might be forgiven for thinking that we know for a fact that there were such injuries, we know what they were, and all that’s missing is photographic evidence.

More:

To date, little information has been shared publicly about the circumstances of the death of the 13-year veteran of the police force, including any findings from an autopsy that was conducted by DC’s medical examiner.

One might think that such information would have been released by now, or that MSM reporters should have been clamoring for it. But no.

CNN goes on to add some surprising admissions [emphasis mine]:

In Sicknick’s case, it’s still not known publicly what caused him to collapse the night of the insurrection. Findings from a medical examiner’s review have not yet been released and authorities have not made any announcements about that ongoing process.

According to one law enforcement official, medical examiners did not find signs that the officer sustained any blunt force trauma, so investigators believe that early reports that he was fatally struck by a fire extinguisher are not true.

One possibility being considered by investigators is that Sicknick became ill after interacting with a chemical irritant like pepper spray or bear spray that was deployed in the crowd. But investigators reviewing video of the officer’s time around the Capitol haven’t been able to confirm that in tape that has been recovered so far, the official said.

The case could also be complicated if Sicknick had a preexisting medical condition. It could not be learned if he did.

Those are not the only facts about which authorities have been silent. Byron York has touched on some of the other dogs that haven’t barked concerning January 6 in his Washington Examiner piece from February 4 in which he lists nine questions he has submitted to Capitol Police (complete with follow up calls) that he claims have gone completely unanswered. He points out that these are standard questions with answers that are usually released even at the start of investigations, and so the failure to answer is unusual. Here are York’s unanswered questions:

How many Capitol Police officers were injured in the riot?
What were their injuries? What is their condition now?
Did Capitol Police confiscate any firearms from rioters? If so, how many and what types?
What is the status of the investigation into the killing of Officer Sicknick?
Is there an autopsy report for Officer Sicknick? If so, will it be released to the public, or will its key findings be released to the public?
What is the status of the investigation into the shooting of Ashli Babbitt? Has it been ruled a justifiable shooting?
Who was the officer who shot Ms. Babbitt?
Did any other officers discharge firearms during the rioting? If so, under what circumstances?
Did any rioters discharge any firearms during the rioting? If so, under what circumstances?

I think it’s likely that the present administration, the Democrats, and the press are hoping that the narrative around Officer Sicknick’s death that has already been established in the minds of the vast majority of Americans – that right-wing Trump-supporting rioters killed him by bashing him in the head with a fire extinguisher – will continue to serve its purpose. In order to do this, it would be important to keep any information that might tend to undercut that narrative away from the public.

[Neo is a writer with degrees in law and family therapy, who blogs at the new neo.]

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One unarmed protester was shot and killed. She was not an immediate threat to anyone at the time.

Three protesters died from ‘medical conditions’ — heart attacks, strokes, etc.

And it looks like Officer Sicknick was not beaten to death with a fire extinguisher as reported by the NY China Times. Rather he went home that night, texted his brother he was fine, and later that evening died from causes our leftwing fascist government does not want disclosed.

Meanwhile the Ministry of Truth is telling us this ‘domestic terrorist attack’ was like 9/11. And the impeached Emmanuel Goldstein must be convicted of inciting an insurrection.

How stupid do they think the American people are?

Evidently the leftwing fascists think most of their (alleged) voters are as dumb as a box of rocks. And they’re sure they’ll never lose another election.

    MarkSmith in reply to JHogan. | February 10, 2021 at 11:32 pm

    Was one unarmed protester killed? Are you sure? Who was it? Was she an actor?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2WOBIv6SY4

      MattMusson in reply to MarkSmith. | February 11, 2021 at 7:22 am

      We saw video of her being shot and bleeding out on the floor of the Capital while there were two policemen beside her and four more coming up the stairs behind her. It was not fake. She died. She bled out.

      The coward who shot her is just lucky that he did not hit one of the six officers standing around her.

        MarkSmith in reply to MattMusson. | February 11, 2021 at 9:08 am

        So did you watch the video that was posted above?

        The video does make that case that it might be fake and backs it up.

        The cop walking through the blood is pretty unprofessional. The need to carry her down the step instead of letting the EMTs get there makes me wonder how serious they were about here care.

        Yes, she may have been shot, but there needs to be more information coming out on this.

        What are they hiding? Unprofessionalism by the security detail there?

        Explain to me when the gun used would not have made a more damaging wound? It is pretty dangerous and reckless to shoot into a crowd? What if he missed?

        If I was to take the actions as is and an unarmed women was killed and another one was crushed, I have to ask the question why they were not prepared? Come on, DC does not know how to handle crowd control? The failure lays at the steps of Congress and Capital police. They are the ones responsible for crowd control.

        So, are you a paid poster? Why are you not having a discussion about this thread instead of “oh she bleed out” Did she? Does the amount of blood reflect that? The video brings in to question that the black band around her body is part of the props used to enact mock emergency training events. Was it? So no, I am not an expert and neither are you that can say she bleed out.

          Davod1 in reply to MarkSmith. | February 11, 2021 at 9:42 am

          Look at the eyes and faces of the cops and security people. They do not have the look of people who are operating in a highly intense situation.

      mark311 in reply to MarkSmith. | February 11, 2021 at 7:23 am

      That video is a shit show. I won’t ever get that time back. Thanks.

      Stop peddling bollocks.

        MarkSmith in reply to mark311. | February 11, 2021 at 9:34 am

        Karen, it has become painfully obvious that you are a troll or full blown idiot. The video is a S$$$ show? Why? Because it try’s to address the possible that maybe it was a fake shooting with paid actors? Why not be critical of why the video is messed up? Because you can’t.

        Is it a professional done great video. No, but it does address two questions.

        1. Are there actors that are not Trump supporters that are agent provocateurs and 2. was the shooting fake?

        As for Agent Provocateurs, there is more than enough evidence of that just from the arrests. The deeper questions is who is behind them. Listening to true journalist that cover riots like in other countries, they indicated that organized groups with have key indicators like wearing certain markers. Closely watching the video we do, with one glove, white wrist bands (including the shooter)

        As for the shooting, if it was fake, then how was it faked. This video addresses that.

    George_Kaplan in reply to JHogan. | February 11, 2021 at 2:12 am

    How stupid? Incredibly stupid. It seems like all the Left are buying the 5 killed in deadly insurrection skew. Those on the Right are more skeptical, and abused for refusing to ‘accept the facts’.

      MarkSmith in reply to George_Kaplan. | February 11, 2021 at 10:43 am

      It is not just people on the right. Can we list reason why we should be skeptical? This is a no brainer. How many false flags do they need to keep putting out there to cover their a$$ including fake trolls on this site.

    henrybowman in reply to JHogan. | February 11, 2021 at 2:47 pm

    “How stupid do they think the American people are?”

    Sad to say, they are right. Or else their party would have no support whatsoever, and their propaganda outlets would have no viewership whatsoever.

    Hey, don’t blame the messenger. P. T. Barnum and H. L. Mencken told us this more than a century ago.

    “No one in this world, so far as I know — and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me — has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.”

What strikes me is the way Democrats have managed to spin the deaths of Trump supporters into proof that Trump supporters are violent and evil.

It’s really astounding.

Imagine reporting on Kent State and talking about the deadly riots of the anti-war movement.

    RAM500 in reply to clintack. | February 11, 2021 at 2:52 pm

    In late 1972, I took US Army officer training at Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD. We were shown the Army film of the Kent State events that pointed out all the things the National Guard there did wrong.

While we’re at it, how many new COVID-19 cases are linked to either the crowd that came to listen to Trump or the mob at the Capitol?

the ME already posted that Sicknick had NO blunt force trauma

Being at the gym with the collection of TVs, I see some of the impeachment garbage.

Quick notes:

-Eric Swalwell testified that he sent a text to his wife that he loves and to tell the kids he loves them. I’m wondering if this text went out before or after the text to his Chinese spy mistress.

-Swallwell was also nice enough to let us know that Pelosi also led the House in a prayer for peace “COMPLETELY UNREHEARSED AND UNPLANNED”. Wow, what brave leadership they have.

-ALL of the presented case I saw was about trying to sell this as a terrifying ordeal and about the suffering of the politicians and their staff. It had ZERO connection to an incitement charge whatsoever. There was nothing to tie this to Trump other than Trump flags and MAGA hats in their videos. A non-partisan presiding authority would have cut this farce in half and said get to the relevance.

You wouldn’t know that from the CNN “analysis” though. CNN thinks the 2nd comings of Perry Mason and Matlock were up there laying out a masterful case that will make it near impossible for Republicans to say no because it reminded them that it was “bipartisan” targeting. I mean it’s not like the conservative lawmakers were there during this ordeal…no, they needed to have the events of their own lives re-dramatized because they aren’t smart enough to know that they were in danger. You can’t make this crap up…this abhorrent CNN coverage was a giant love fest (and coverage in the literal sense, as in covering for a huge steaming pile of political theater and grandstanding).

Isn’t that an unusual number of heart attacks and strokes to happen in such a small group, over such a short period, especially since none of them were more than middle-aged and they were all healthy enough to have got there on their own steam?

    alaskabob in reply to Milhouse. | February 10, 2021 at 10:50 pm

    Plus two “suicides”. There is always a chance of clusters… it does happen in medicine. But you have a point and with this it is important to have more than just a common denominator of time and place.

    mailman in reply to Milhouse. | February 11, 2021 at 5:39 am

    A couple things come to mind.

    1. You wouldnt even have known about these deaths if this was a burn loot murder rampage.
    2. Where was Hillary Clinton on the 6th of January?

    Dathurtz in reply to Milhouse. | February 11, 2021 at 7:05 am

    I don’t know. A lot of older people. A lot of excitement. A lot of cold.

    Hell, I have seen several heart attacks at class B and C athletic events.

    MattMusson in reply to Milhouse. | February 11, 2021 at 7:23 am

    Stress gets high when a crowd panics.

    mark311 in reply to Milhouse. | February 11, 2021 at 7:25 am

    Stress maybe? I don’t know if it’s true or not but there was one vague report of a taser induced heart attack. Like the article says all very vague atm.

      mailman in reply to mark311. | February 11, 2021 at 7:59 am

      The use of a taser would suggest police involvement? If so, such a pity the person involved was black or a black democrat or a potential democrat voter who just happened to be black.

    DanJ1 in reply to Milhouse. | February 11, 2021 at 2:54 pm

    Did all of those deaths happen on the Capital steps or were they among the half million people attending the rally? With a highly charged event like that and a population the size of a large city all in a close area, I would say, “only 3 or 4?” At the Big House in Ann Arbor on a football Saturday with “only” 114,000, there are dozens of people taken out on stretchers.

      MarkSmith in reply to DanJ1. | February 11, 2021 at 3:48 pm

      One happened near the Capital Steps – Women got crushed. One was in the Capital and the other one was outside the Capital perimeter. 2 Police died, one the next day from some medical issue they wrongly claim as a fire extinguisher and the other from suicide.

Why the haste to trial? Investigations aren’t completed. Arrests are continuing and even to the point of abusive overreach by Feds. D.C. is the new super Bagdad or Kabul….more like Fallujah. Checkpoints around the beltway could choke off any major influx of people. This isn’t about a mob…rather about small singularly strategic issues with huge consequences with relatively small standoff distances. Elections are way in the future. Something has a timepiece ticking in the background.

Not excusing what happened at the Capitol on Jan 6. But this buIIsh!+ teary eyed impeachment farce is nothing but the dems showing their azzes. The USA had a whole summer of antifa/blm burning cities, pulling down statues, using lasers to blind, throwing missiles and even molotov cocktails at the police. And injuring, even killing dozens of people. Where were these democrat/RINO “leaders” when Seattle PD was calling their equivalent of 10-33 because their line had been breached? Where were they when hundreds of frozen water bottles were hurled at Boston PD? I could go on and on, but I remember where they were politically and rhetorically. BAILING OUT THE RIOTERS. Now they want to cry, choke up and send fang fang bang boy swallwell out to gin up sympathy because some buffalo head weirdo grabbed the Speakers podium while all these bastions of courage ran around like chicken little or tried to hide under the Capitol floor rugs? Nope. Go F yourselves dems and traitor RINOs. This is the worst gaggle of cowards in American history. What makes it even worse, if that’s possible, is many of these people called for and you know damn well fantasized about this kind of violence happening to PDJT and all of his supporters. Sick.

Simple answers – the answers on Babbit and Sicknick do not help the Democrats. The information is being suppressed until after the impeachment (maybe never released). Had the Officer who shot Babbit been in any other capacity/event, we would have heard from his proctologist by now. The ME processing Sicknick’s autopsy has 90 days to complete (I stand fully to be corrected). The autopsy results will be slow walked, and if release with “pre-existing” conditions…blame anonymous source for the confusion / mistake.

Add to this the fact that the Capitol Police recruitment is supposed to be based upon patronage, then it is possible that some police were not fit enough for that active part of the job.

    MarkSmith in reply to Davod1. | February 10, 2021 at 11:33 pm

    Be care with that statement. I use to live in DC and know some people on the force. Back that up.

      alaskabob in reply to MarkSmith. | February 11, 2021 at 1:19 am

      Good point but “some” and “used to” may not cover all the force now especially in DC and their political environment. One would hope not, but considering how the police were deployed last summer does raise concerns.

“The brother-in-law of a woman killed during Wednesday’s assault on the U.S. Capitol by a mob seeking to overturn President Donald Trump’s election loss said he blames Trump for the riot, and has joined calls for him to be removed from office…”

I wonder what kind of relationship he had with the women. If he is like my liberal family members, they have TDS that it mentally handicaps them.

I have been wondering about this since it happened. Thanks for shedding some light on the deaths.

With regard to the Officer Sicknick death, it is as if those arguing that it was as a result of the riots he participated in hours before he collapsed have never heard of the “post hoc, ergo propter hoc”/Correlation/Causation Fallacy.

That the autopsy has been done but not released its obvious its not fitting the narrative.

Have they found Trump guilty of hurting their fweelings yet?

One of the more fascinating aspects of Sicknick’s death is how the Joseph Goebbels media has flip flopped from the reflexive ACAB stance they have taken for years to “Officer Sicknick was a brave and dedicated law enforcement killed by MAGA terrorists”.

The whole sleazy affair surrounding Sicknick’s death is starting to remind me of the death of former NFL star Pat Tillman in Afghanistan. Remember that Tillman was originally reported as killed by enemy combatants, but it later turned out the the Department of Defense lied to Tlllman’s family to conceal the fact that he was the victim of friendly fire (and not coincidentally use Tillman’s death as a recruiting tool). I strongly suspect that the present foot-dragging by the media on Sicknick’s death is an attempt to preserve the media’s filthy, dishonest Narrative as long as possible.

No one here has asked yet: What of the missing three fingers?

Dem Rep James Raskin testified: “Five people died in the melee, including a police officer hit with a fire extinguisher and a woman shot by an officer outside the House chamber. Other officers were beaten, had their eyes gouged and one officer lost three fingers.

    MarkSmith in reply to Anonamom. | February 11, 2021 at 12:18 pm

    I read that. This line is pretty good:

    They’ve silently removed the “by,” and added a “while” and a “with.” Then reframed the entire clause in the passive tense so 90% of readers conflate what happened and move on.

    But “Injured while physically engaging” is like “dying with Covid.” Even if you died in a motorcycle crash, they count it. It’s a trick.

      I think there is a bit of a blue wall of silence here. If he died in the line of duty, his family probably benefits more than if he died from a pre-existing medical condition. I’m thinking pensions, life insurance and worker comp. I’m not saying the family doesn’t deserve and need what they can get given the loss of a primary breadwinner with a lot of working years ahead of him. It’s just at the expense of a lot of people, not least of which, Trump.

        gospace in reply to DanJ1. | February 11, 2021 at 10:14 pm

        If you die while on duty- you die in the line of duty in most cases. Doesn’t matter whether the condition was pre-existing or not.

        Worked with an older guy who told his wife if he died at home, take his body to work, throw it down the steps, punch his timecard, and leave. This, obviously, was before there was video surveillance everywhere… She drove him to work every day anyhow. Not sure how wild he was when younger, but he didn’t have and couldn’t get a driver’s license…

I recommend that we consider what the park police does:

Lets attack the police for crowd control in July 2020, but now blame the crowd.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4895577/acting-us-park-police-chief-defends-forcible-removal-protesters-lafayette-park#

OF THE COMMITTEE, MY NAME IS GREG ROW MOYNIHAN, AND I’M THE ACTING CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE UNITED STATES PARK POLICE. THE UNITED STATES PARK POLICE IS THE OLDEST UNIFORM FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IN THE UNITED STATES AND PROVIDES LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICES INCLUDING THE PROTECTION OF VISITORS AND PARK RESOURCES TO DESIGNATED NATIONAL PARK SERVICE AREAS. PRIMARILY IN WASHINGTON, D.C., NEW YORK CITY AND SAN FRANCISCO METROPOLITAN AREAS. HERE IN WASHINGTON THAT INCLUDES THE NATIONAL MALL IN LAFAYETTE PARK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE WHITE HOUSE AT 8th STREET BETWEEN 15th AND 17th STREET NORTHWEST. EACH YEAR THE UNITED STATES PARK POLICE FACILITATES HUNDREDS OF FIRST AMENDMENT DEMONSTRATIONS AND SPECIAL EVENTS IN AND AROUND THE

    MarkSmith in reply to MarkSmith. | February 11, 2021 at 12:06 pm

    Jody B. Hice

    IT’S AMAZING TO ME WE AS R AS WERSENMAN MENTIONED THIS IS NOTHING MORE THAN POLITICAL THEATER TO COME HERE AND PRETEND THEY’RE PEACEFUL PROTESTERS WHERE THE EVIDENCE IS ABUNDANCE ANYTHING FROM ARSON TO VANDALISM TO 51 INJURED OFFICERS. THE REASON IS DID NOT CAPE STAIN THAT MOMENTUM IN WASHINGTON, D.C. IS BECAUSE THE PARKS POLICE AND OTHERS GOT INVOLVED TO PUT A STOP TO IT, AND SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE IN THAT REGARD AND MAINTAINING THE SAFETY OF WASHINGTON, D.C. AND BEYOND. I TO HAVE A LETTER THAT I WOULD ASK MUNE ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO SUBMIT INTO THE RECORD. …

Good post. But even the word “riot” is inaccurate. I spoke to someone who was there for hours and he never saw any violence or damage whatsoever. People were waiting in line for an hour to use a port-a-potty and people were cleaning up their own garbage. Not a riot, and we shouldn’t use that language. I saw later there were some incidents at various points, but those were isolated and driven by Antifa types for the most part.

    MarkSmith in reply to hansgruber7. | February 11, 2021 at 11:57 am

    They were cleaning up the Capitol too!

    Milhouse in reply to hansgruber7. | February 11, 2021 at 5:17 pm

    As far as I know the only riot was the one that broke into the Capitol. I haven’t seen the term used about the rally, or about the people who peacefully entered the Capitol after it was open and there was nothing to indicate to them that they were doing anything wrong.

      If you read the resignation letter from the Capitol Police chief who resigned, he made it sound like World War II with a few courageous officers holding out against an army of ‘insurrectionists’ (I think he managed to use ‘insurrection’ twenty times or so in three pages) There was certainly an attempt to get more officers/defense units, but it sounded fake as plastic cheese. The best/worst part was a stunned disbelief that asking for the National Guard could actually take *three* whole hours for them to show up… In DC… Where driving across town can take three hours… Even in good traffic.

Let us not forget:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/more-than-60-secret-service-officers-injured-during-violent-george-floyd-protests-in-washington-d-c

More than 60 Secret Service officers and special agents sustained multiple injuries in three days worth of violent clashes stemming from protests demanding justice for George Floyd in Washington, D.C.

What is more important, our right to vote or the death of a drug addict. We are talking the lively hood of 74 M people here. For Congress to minimize the fundamental right to vote and our 1st Amendment Rights is messed up. It is not about Trump and they know it.

FYI

Look what Trump cased with his many rallys:

10 deadliest concert disasters of the last 50 years

https://matadornetwork.com/nights/10-deadliest-concert-disasters-of-the-last-50-years/

List of human stampedes and crushes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_stampedes_and_crushes

Patriots fan dies at Gillette Stadium with son at his side

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/18/patriots-fan-dies-at-gillette-stadium-with-son-at-his-side/

The saddest story of Week One of the NFL season happened at Gillette Stadium, where a 40-year-old fan died of a heart attack after a confrontation with a stadium worker over whether his 6-year-old son could step on the field.

I bet there was over 1 M people there and the majority of them were over the age of 50 with many in the age range of 70’s.

How long must we pretend?

“other than the shooting of Ashli Babbit”

Last I checked, they still haven’t released the name of the officer that murdered her.

Only that they aren’t going to prosecute him for putting a bullet in the neck of someone that was in no way threatening and was not armed.

TRIGER WARNING will effect Woke and iD-teN-ts feelings
Lets get some sad reality in the form of exaggeration (or hyperbole) to what the film “Guess what happened at work today honey” says and means.

First of all the facts. Only 1 unarmed person-a female vet- got unlawfully shot; 3 elderly gentlemen died of heart attacks through over excitement (their fault for coming); 1 cop didn’t duck fast enough and got hit by a flying fire extinguisher (sad) and 2 cops sadly didn’t get care at work and home and committed suicide at their own hands- sad indictments of the lack of proper training of the nation’s police force.

Pence’s and Pelosi’s chairs were sat upon and defiled by at least 2 of Hillarys despicables and/or those Obama peopl who practice their freedom of religion and bear arms,

The “working” political wokes experienced a very small example of the full calamity as We The People do when BLM and ANTIFA follow their woke masters indignations and Burn and Shoot us Common People.

Instead of the elite ruling wokes pointing their long fingers at the utter failure of the protection arm of the Washington deep state bureaucracy in protecting them in the first place, they aim their “guns” at the 70 million WTP through Trump and with great hypocrisy salute Joe’s healing and coming together process with two long fingers.

Thanks for that. See you in 22 and 24

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