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Presidential Swing State Updates

Presidential Swing State Updates

Trump campaign: “The false projection of Joe Biden as the winner is based on results in four states that are far from final” Trump needs a sweep of AZ, GA, NC, and PA. It is very close in thses states, not so close in SC but it hasn’t been “called” due to an extension of the ballot receipt deadline to November 12. Some states may turn on military and provisional ballots.

GA is also important additionally because it looks like there will be two Senate runoffs on January 5, with the balance of power in the Senate at stake (Dems needed to flip net 3 states, but only have net 1 so far). If Republicans don’t win one, the Senate will be 50-50, with VP Kamala Harris casting the tie breaker if Biden is President.

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More shrinkage but still may not be enough




Secretary of State announces there will be a recount, and that there are about 4000 uncounted ballots plus about 9,000 military ballots that have not been counted. Expect to have everything done before end of November.

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2smartforlibs | November 6, 2020 at 9:02 am

I’m sick of the pearl-clutching from the current and former politicians. Say98ing this needs to be fixed. It should have been fixed under Boehner or Ryan not after the barns burned.

I believe you mean NC (North Carolina) not SC (South Carolina) in your heading/sub-heading.

    William A. Jacobson in reply to Don Anastas. | November 6, 2020 at 9:07 am

    Yes, fixed

      I’d love to see opinion on the following:

      The Constitution, in Art. I, §4, cl. 1, gives state legislatures the power over the times, methods, and procedures of elections and provides no “public health emergency” exception that enables governors or judges to override them and create a new system for elections.

      Art. II, Sec. 1, §2 of the Constitution stipulates that “Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct” the electors to vote for president. The Constitution gives Congress the authority to set the date of that vote, which, pursuant to 3 U.S.C. §7, is the Monday after the second Wednesday in December of presidential election years. This year it is Dec. 14.

      Notice how the Constitution specifically gives the job of choosing electors to the legislature, and unlike with standard legislation, there is no shared jurisdiction or responsibility with the governor, much less some random state or federal judge. Congress has NO authority!!

      All States in play have Republican legislatures except Nevada. That would be WI, MI, PA, NC, GA, AZ!!

      See David Horowitz & Mark Levin at The Blaze.

        Milhouse in reply to Don Anastas. | November 6, 2020 at 10:18 am

        1. It doesn’t say the legislature shall choose the electors, it says the legislature shall decide how they are chosen. Every state’s legislature has already made that decision: They are to be chosen by the state’s citizens, at an election that was held this Tuesday.

        I suppose a legislature can change its mind now and decide that they will be chosen a different way, but one could argue that the original electors were chosen in the way the legislature had directed, so they are valid regardless of any later legislative decision.

        2. A governor, whose assent is needed for legislation, is therefore part of the legislature. His assent would be needed for such a decision just as any other.

        3. Congress has made a law guaranteeing that if a state holds elections in the way we do them, and has its electors chosen by a certain date (I think it’s Dec 8 this year) then those electors’ votes will be accepted and counted. If a legislature changes its mind and chooses electors a different way, there’s no guarantee that they will be counted.

        4. A literal reading of the text implies that this is entirely the VP’s decision. Congress’s role is merely to sit there and bear witness. In fact the law I just referred to may be unconstitutional, by infringing on that decision. But Congress has historically taken the opposite view, that it is in charge and is to make all decisions, and the VP’s role is merely to physically do the count. This came up in 1876 and was never resolved.

          r2468 in reply to Milhouse. | November 6, 2020 at 2:09 pm

          If the vote is compromised by fraud, then invalidate the state results. That Opens the door for the state legislature or delay and run out the clock until the House can vote. One vote per state delegation. DJT wins.

          What do you guys do with the envelope when you open a mail-in ballot?

      Also in the first para : “not so close in SC “

Terence G. Gain | November 6, 2020 at 9:27 am

If President Trump had prepared for the first debate he would’ve demolished the Charlottesville Lie then and there. If he had prepared for the second debate then John Paul Mac Isaac would be a household name. There is no doubt there is widespread pro Biden voter fraud but there is also no doubt widespread anti-Trump voting, given that President Trump was defeated by someone who barely campaigned and was not even physically capable of campaigning in a traditional manner. I’ve been concerned for the last 4 years that Notwithstanding his excellent policies President trumps refusal to become more scripted would prevent him from receiving the second term he so richly deserves.

I learned as a young lawyer that how you say something is more important than what you say. It appears that subject to recounts and perhaps a Scotus decision, that President Trump has been defeated by someone who is suffering from dementia and is not all there. Biden is also a vicious liar. Does anyone know whether President Trump is entitled to a recount in PA. I understand that under Georgia law he is entitled to a recount if the margin of victory is less than .5%.

    Counselor.. you assume a free and fair election. You assume that the secret ballot has been maintained. You also remember that in the debates that Trump was debating both Biden and the moderator. As for how one speaks versus what they say … we need no remember that we are dealing with an opponent that is allowed to control the definition of words and their usage.

    May I request you run for office and show us how it is done?

      Terence G. Gain in reply to alaskabob. | November 6, 2020 at 12:59 pm


      If you reread my comment perhaps you will come to the correct conclusion, which is that I assumed that the election would not be free or fair. This is precisely why it was important for President Trump to do a better job at the debates. The media certainly wasn’t going to give him a free and fair election. You have completely misunderstood my point Even though I couldn’t have made it more obvious.

    When I saw your post, the up/down vote already stood at 0-6. I gave you an upvote. This is my first post here in months. I stopped posting because I got the same reception as you when I tried to get LI regulars to see that their obnoxiousness was costing them support.

    They seemed to positively relish the prospect of fence-sitters coming here and seeing that the regulars downvote such warnings overwhelmingly.

      I haven’t stopped by here for awhile because I feel the same way you do about the rude way the regulars in this echo chamber treat anyone with an opposing view. I didn’t vote for either major Presidential candidate and wrote in the name of someone who appears to have the moral fiber and leadership qualities required for this high office. But I have to admit that all these arguments about how the Democrats committed overwhelming fraud and stole the election are hilarious. They cheated so brilliantly that they actually LOST seats in the house, FAILED to regain the Senate, and are being DESTROYED in nearly every state election. Apparently they failed to tell their fraudsters to also vote for down-ballot Democrats. Wow, what an amazing plan! Or maybe, just maybe, the majority of voters couldn’t stomach the despicable Donald J Trump. Occam’s Razor.

        Mac45 in reply to RNJD. | November 6, 2020 at 5:14 pm

        You forget something.

        First, that the vote fraud, while it may have been centrally approved, was conducted locally. This means that local agent to them, that of POTUS.

        Second, you fail to factor in the possible effect of all the Faux Polls being floated, right up to the day of the election. It is entirely possible that the opposition actually believed those polls. The Biden team certainly campaigned that way.

        So, suppose, that the Trump opposition decided that there was a chance that Trump would win, very late in the race. What to do, in a short period of time? How about go to the time-proven bastions of Democrat vote fraud; Philly and Detroit. And, just for insurance, rope in a couple of other locations where Dems control large urban populations which can be augmented with extra votes to offset Trump urban and suburban voting trends; such as Milwaukee, Las Vegas/Clark County, Atlanta, Phoenix and a few others. And, just as in the 2016 election, the Dems mount a half-a**ed operation. The operation was to swing the election for President and there was only a short time to do this. Also, the number of people actually involved in the operation has to be limited. If too many people are involved in a criminal enterprise, the chances that one will crack or grow a conscience increases. And, that can result in a lot of people hanging on the gallows.

        Barry in reply to RNJD. | November 6, 2020 at 6:29 pm

        RNJD is such a moral superior because it voted against the only person running that could stop biden.

        You’re just brilliant.

        Thanks for helping lose the country to the marxist party, moralist.

          RNJD in reply to Barry. | November 7, 2020 at 4:42 am

          Why thank you! I appreciate the fact that you recognize me as a decent, moral person who had no problem voting for my Republican governor and federal/state representatives, but couldn’t stomach the idea of four more years of Trump. Note that there are hundreds of lawyers paid by the Trump campaign lining up to challenge the election results. If there is ACTUAL evidence of fraud substantial enough to deny Trump the presidency the place to track them is not on social media or talk radio or Hannity or Levin or Limbaugh, but in federal court. This is supposed to be a legal blog, so why don’t you cite evidence from PACER (Public Access to Court Electronic Records) to determine if these fraud claims are valid? You won’t because you can’t because the so-called “evidence” doesn’t exist or can’t be proven with any degree of reliability. Occam’s Razor.

          Barry in reply to Barry. | November 7, 2020 at 9:39 am

          Evidence of fraud?

          You are an idiot. Just another marxist parading around as a moralist with Trump derangement syndrome.

          You have no morals. Your miserable life is concentrated on scooping up $$$ and power, and you’re a failure at that.

          You can only find work as a poorly paid blog infiltrator.

      moonmoth in reply to moonmoth. | November 6, 2020 at 4:37 pm

      Correction to my previous post: A week ago, I posted about Glenn Greenwald’s resignation from “The Intercept”. That post had been my first in a couple of months.

    Your kidding me, right? This is a parody, correct?

    So, here we have a candidate who has a significant lead in the polls nearly 12 hours after they close. Then over the next few days, late counted ballots not only cause his lead to diminish, but vanish altogether and his opponent is now holding an nearly insurmountable lead. And, there have been significant, provable irregularities in the states responsible for these reversals. And, you want to blame it on the aggrieved candidate because you didn’t like the way he performed in a debate? This is nuts. It is analogous to blaming a man for being robbed because he was wearing a Rolex or a woman for being raped because she was dressed provocatively.

    Place the blame where it belongs, on those cheating and stealing.

      And D’s always win those by less than 0.05%.

      Amazing isn’t it? The same party that has been telling us the world will end in %n years and never gets it right, can consistently win close elections by just enough “found” ballots to eek out a .05% win. Dems are idiot savants, I reckon. 😉

      moonmoth in reply to Mac45. | November 6, 2020 at 4:55 pm

      You told Terence G. Gain, “And, you want to blame it on the aggrieved candidate because you didn’t like the way he performed in a debate?”

      You’re misrepresenting Terence’s point, which was that if Trump didn’t have a history of getting himself in trouble by shooting from the hip, he might have won too many votes on Nov. 3 to be overcome by fraud. Also, many, many people thought Trump came across badly in the first debate — including Ben Shapiro. Trump already had the MSM and social media aligned against him; he couldn’t afford to give voters even more reason to believe that he’s an out-of-control, overbearing jerk.

      Unfortunately, some regulars here quite approving of that behavior.

        Barry in reply to moonmoth. | November 6, 2020 at 6:34 pm

        Oh no, little Benny didn’t like mean old Donald Trump?

        What a disaster! But for that the election would be honest and above board!

        You people are dumber than bricks.

          moonmoth in reply to Barry. | November 7, 2020 at 9:13 am

          You are misrepresenting my point, and Terrance’s. Neither of us said that the election would have been free and fair if Trump had been nicer. Instead, we said that because the election would NOT be free and fair, Trump could not afford to alienate fence-sitters by acting as he did in the first debate (and on many previous occasions). He needed as big a margin as he could get.

          One of the other supposedly dumb people who are of that opinion is Ben Shapiro, who backed Trump in this election.

          Your personal insult also makes RND’s point about the rudeness of the regulars here to any newcomer who has a different view, or (as I did) who corrects any of your misrepresentations.

          Barry in reply to Barry. | November 7, 2020 at 9:43 am

          Hey moonmoth, your point is stupid and invalid. You demand respect when none is due.

          You are nothing more than a deranged idiot trying to pretend some sort of intellect into what Trump should have said or how he should have said it, and then making the outrageous claim that had he followed your advice, there would be no significant fraud in this election.

          That is grade A+ stupid and deception.

        Mac45 in reply to moonmoth. | November 6, 2020 at 9:17 pm

        Please. This was not going to be full court blowout, a la RR. There was NO WAY that DJT could overcome the negative media coverage, sabotage by Big Tech, the bureaucracy working and the outright lies of the Dems and some Republicans. It was always going to be a split among the heavily blue and red states. And, the fix was to use heavily democrat urban areas to inject sufficient fraudulent votes into the system to swing the two or three states necessary to secure a victory in the Electoral College.

        Remember, over 50% of the population had been convinced that Trump was a racist, a white supremacist, a NAZI and the Anti-Christ by the media. They had been convinced that COVID and the alleged death count associated with it was all due to DJT. Trump never had a chance of gaining more than about 55% of the legitimate votes cast in this election. And, that was not a guarantee against rampant vote fraud.

          moonmoth in reply to Mac45. | November 7, 2020 at 9:17 am

          “There was NO WAY that DJT could overcome the negative media coverage, sabotage by Big Tech, the bureaucracy working and the outright lies of the Dems and some Republicans”

          You don’t know that, and that belief on your part does not excuse your blatant misrepresentation of Terrance’s point.

          Barry in reply to Mac45. | November 7, 2020 at 9:45 am

          Actually anyone other than an idiot or a paid marxist blog troll does know that.

        stablesort in reply to moonmoth. | November 6, 2020 at 9:55 pm

        In this election, President Trump received more votes than any other Presidential candidate in the history of this nation with one exception, Joe Biden.

        Keep in mind, that there was almost a 90% turnout of voters and the government’s candidate won.

        That’s exactly how elections in the Russia and Valenzuela turn out.

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to Terence G. Gain. | November 6, 2020 at 3:14 pm


    GA AG has declared “recount!”

    BREAKING: Georgia Secretary of State Announces Recount (VIDEO)

    Gateway Pundit

      What does a recount with fraudulent ballots in the pool accomplish?

        GIGO, right? With the revelation about the Dominion software, they need to prove the accuracy of the machines by handcounting and comparing to the machine results. Feeding the same ballots through the machines again won’t prove anything – unless of course as a few (elsewhere) have suggested, the program(s) that manipulated the tally self-deleted when the polls closed.

    Do you actually believe that debate performance has any effect on cheating?

    Hey dingbat, that lie about Charlottesville has been “demolished” over and over, a thousand times. It makes no difference.

    Harping on that is the height of stupidity. Believing that had Trump done a better job pointing it out, it would have stopped the fraud currently occurring is beyond stupid.

    You’re full of ignorance and dumbassery.

Bottom line is the Trump team is NOT the Romney team.

The legal knife fight is just getting started. As evidence is collected those instances which could point to systemic issues can be used as the basis for further discovery by Trump team.

Additionally the simple statistics in some locations is beyond questionable.

Let’s say you are looking at registration list v voter cast list. You will find lots of hinky things to run and get additional discovery motions on.

The house of cards is not meant to withstand any level of scrutiny. It’s too blatant an attempt to cheat.

Recall that Philly in 2012 had something like 50 wards where Romney got zero votes, 100% vote for Obama.

Trump will not roll over like Romney. The level and scope of.this corruption will get exposed in some detail. Will it flip the Electoral College to Trump? Who knows but the goal now is to expose the shenanigans and hope the courts will act.

If courts won’t then maybe the State Legislature will.

Go down fighting!

    Ghost Rider in reply to CommoChief. | November 6, 2020 at 10:01 am

    I have no doubt the Dems cheated in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and probably NC and other close states. But voter fraud is very hard to prove in a court of law.

      That depends upon what you require as “proof”. The counting stops in the blue states. That’s the point where there election statisticians told them Trump was going to win. They stopped until they got their corrupt batch of votes ready.

      You cannot have more than 100% from any district.

      You cannot have participation numbers of > 75% when every place around you does not.

      You cannot have 90+% of a batch of votes be Biden votes.

      That is all the proof needed to invalidate the counting that occurred after the vote counts were stopped.

      Anything less is an end to democracy in this country. Anything less is the end, complete and total end, of the rule of law. We are no longer subject to the rules if this farce is allowed to playout.

        mailman in reply to Barry. | November 6, 2020 at 10:59 am

        We are at the point where EVERY single vote needs to be inspected and checked, doubled checked and then checked again and kept on being checked until a live, lving human has been found who confirms they cast that vote.

        Terence G. Gain in reply to Barry. | November 6, 2020 at 1:19 pm


        If the ballots are separated from the envelopes in which they arrived, how do you determine whether a ballot is legal?

      MarkSmith in reply to Ghost Rider. | November 6, 2020 at 11:06 am

      Well if you take the liberal position and say, believe in science, you do. The math alone proves voting fraud. When the dead votes, the more than registered voters vote, the ballots in large quantities do not reflect a pattern of legit votes but ballot stuffing, I think they have a good case.

      An audit will expose the bogus ballot. It is a matter of if we can verify it.

      Bush vs Gore:

      The individual citizen has no federal constitutional right to vote for electors for the President of the United States unless and until the state legislature chooses a statewide election as the means to implement its power to appoint members of the Electoral College. U.S. Const., Art. II, §1. This is the source for the statement in McPherson v. Blacker, 146 U.S. 1, 35 (1892), that the State legislature’s power to select the manner for appointing electors is plenary; it may, if it so chooses, select the electors itself, which indeed was the manner used by State legislatures in several States for many years after the Framing of our Constitution. Id., at 28—33. History has now favored the voter, and in each of the several States the citizens themselves vote for Presidential electors. When the state legislature vests the right to vote for President in its people, the right to vote as the legislature has prescribed is fundamental; and one source of its fundamental nature lies in the equal weight accorded to each vote and the equal dignity owed to each voter. The State, of course, after granting the franchise in the special context of Article II, can take back the power to appoint electors. See id., at 35 (“[T]here is no doubt of the right of the legislature to resume the power at any time, for it can neither be taken away nor abdicated”) (quoting S. Rep. No. 395, 43d Cong., 1st Sess.).

      It is going to be an interesting couple of weeks here.

      notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to Ghost Rider. | November 6, 2020 at 11:48 am

      Between 6:00am and 8:30am – Georgia Discovered 25,000 Extra Votes…

      Meanwhile back AT the uni-party CHICKEN RANCH….

      CNN graduates of O.S.U. (Obama’s Suckers University) HAD Pornhub Up On Its Election Map…

      Weasel Zippers

      CommoChief in reply to Ghost Rider. | November 6, 2020 at 11:54 am

      Ghost Rider,

      Start with the low hanging fruit: voter registration list maintenance requirements.

      Did a particular state remove ineligible voters: the dead and those who moved out of state? If not, then that is indicative of systemic problems.

      Now do comparisons to look at the address of voters. If there are more than about 5 voters with the same address that is likely not a multi generational household. Far more likely to be fraud than a farm house with Grand parents, their adult children and those parents adult children.

      Now cross check registration list v other States registration list. Now the same for actual voter cast list.

      None of that is very difficult nor intrusive. However, once those issues are identified now turn and look at which precinct the ballot was cast and the election worker who allowed it. Is there a pattern?

      Now we have identified fraud, the voter who committed the fraud, the precinct where the fraud occurred, and the election officials who allowed the fraud.

      Since we have a pattern of fraud every act of those election officials comes under increased scrutiny. Maybe the fraud is so prevalent that the votes of the entire precinct are tossed.

      In any event, the low hanging fruit yields general patterns that can be explored for specifics. No way the house of cards in some of these states can withstand this basic scrutiny.

      If the election is so jacked and mired in litigation the state has choices:
      1. Revote voluntary
      2. Risk a r legislature taking action to declare the election invalid or unresolved and selecting their own slate of electors
      3. Risk the courts allowing discovery that exposes individuals to prosecution and a court order to revote; NJ primary
      4. Risk a court finding the whole process unresolved but not in time for electors to seated by safe harbor

      There is downside risk for the big d machines in this. No one wants to go to prison.

      If a person who is deceased registers and votes.. what kind of proof do you need?.. A death certificate??

      If a person voted for Trump and finds out their vote was cancelled, what proof do you need? I really don’t know..

        CommoChief in reply to amwick. | November 6, 2020 at 3:29 pm

        Simple comparison of name/address on voter registration list v SSI data yields the answer. If SSI lists John Q Public as having died in 1984 and a voter roll shows him casting a ballot that is proof.

        Same to a lesser degree with postal database.

        The thing is this basic research and analysis of voter registration data to my knowledge, has never been performed in a comprehensive manner. We have IRS data that can supplement address data from USPS. SSI data that shows deaths.

        Never been done before. We just all muddle along till now.

    Supposedly, WI and MI had 89-90% turnout which is a statistical anomaly. Also, in the battleground states there is a glaring disparity between the votes for president and the down-ticket US Senator … state votes for Trump and R-senator are approximately equal while Biden votes are far above same-state D-senate candidate. Those 4am drops of ballots all for Biden were for Biden-only – there were likely no other votes on those ballots.

    Lots of statistical anomalies to bolster the case for fraud occurring in the ‘swing’ states.

    Had to laugh at the double entendre of the Fox headline “… breaking race results …” Dems broke ’em all right.

    Not surprised they call PA and GA for Biden this morning heading into the weekend – to give all the talking heads a weekend to lecture the American people and gloat.

    Miserable pukes all of them. Praying Trump prevails at USSC, the perps are prosecuted, and meaningful election reforms come from this brazen theft.

    Personally, I’d like to see the USSC roll the state counts for the ‘swing’ states back to what it was at the time they closed up the counting centers and went home – and before Democrat operatives came in at 4am and dumped mass quantities of fake ballots to steal the race. If our elections are to be secure, then the moment they lose chain-of-custody or control of ballot security, they need to declare that the end of the poll/count and declare the winner.

      Terence G. Gain in reply to MrE. | November 6, 2020 at 1:36 pm

      90% is not a statistical anomaly. It is clear evidence of fraud. But if the ballots were separated from the envelopes there is no way of proving fraud. If someone who is not eligible to vote did indeed vote how do you cancel their vote if you don’t know how they voted? The Democrats have stolen the election. I think they are going too far ahead for the corrections which may occur in PA to make any difference. This is a very sad day for America. And for the rest of the world. If china deliberately released COVID-19 Upon the world, then it has just one WWIII.

        MarkSmith in reply to Terence G. Gain. | November 6, 2020 at 1:50 pm

        You can still provide fraud, just not which are fraud votes. Once fraud is proven, the voting results are invalid.

        You can possible prove where the fraud occurred. For mail-in votes, the post service image scans them. They can trace through the mail system. If say 1000 ballots came through on postal drop, you might be able to pin point where the illegal ballots are coming from.

        It would be funny if Trump exposed the illegal balloting the dems have been doing. This will be the second major illegal activity that they have been caught at. Spygate and Votegate.

        You know nothing of statistics.

        The fraud complicit states all stopped counting when their election statisticians told them Trump was going to win and by what amount. They resumed “counting” when they had the fraudulent ballots delivered.

        The remedy is simple, the count is what it was when the states stopped counting.

          Agreed. Trump can’t be drawn into a “identify the fraudulent ballots and we’ll withdraw them” type of relief offer. Either roll back to the last known secure/validated count which was before the closure, or declare that state’s vote compromised and inadmissible.

          The math problem that potentially creates is, if Trump has the vote tallies of WI(10), MI(16), GA(16), AZ(11), NV(6), PA(20) removed altogether (nullified), the Dems are sitting on the undisputed plump EVs from CA and NY – assuming that is the winner would need only get to half of 538 minus disqualified states electoral votes – i.e., 230 EV to win. Trump sits at 214 and picks up NC (15) leaves him with 229 and Biden wins with 230. So I reckon once the votes from states start getting disqualified altogether, the vote would have to be thrown to the state delegations.

          Not only IANAL, IANA Mathemetician. 😉 Just swag-ering.

          Barry in reply to Barry. | November 6, 2020 at 9:37 pm

          You should not invalidate the result up until a known time when they stopped counting. By default, that’s the point where the cheaters knew Trump was going to win and by how much, and the cheating began. The remedy is simple, take the vote at that point.

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to CommoChief. | November 6, 2020 at 3:57 pm


    Domestic Enemy (w/ Fog City Midge, Darren Beattie, Bill McGinley, and Ben Bergquam)

Little did we know a Democrat was right

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) has raised an alarm over ballot harvesting and voter fraud, filing a bill to prevent the practice.

    RodFC in reply to MarkSmith. | November 6, 2020 at 2:57 pm

    She’s a fraud. If she were so worried about this she would have done something before now. Now that it’s too late she wants to do something, when the Democrats can manipulate the system to hold power,. Of course then it’s just a way of making it harder for someone else to come along and knocking out the democrats.

    Just like Collins voting against Barret. She only did it with Mitch’s permission so she could win the election.

“Here’s how this must work in our great country: Every legal vote should be counted. Any illegally-submitted ballots must not. All sides must get to observe the process. And the courts are here to apply the laws & resolve disputes.”

The problem with McConnell is that despite pushing through Trump’s Federal court nominees he is still a swamp creature. His statement above is just about the only thing I have seen from prominent Republicans protesting the voting fraud going on, and it was as weak and tepid as you would expect.

Let’s face facts: the GOPe has always wanted Trump gone, and have decided to let the Communists do the dirty work. You can almost see the scheming in many Republican and “conservative” minds. They want to get back to the good old days of having a Communist president overreach or screw up, run in opposition in the midterm elections and take control of Congress and state houses, and proceed with pretending to oppose Communism while delivering a watered-down version of Communism.

What McConnell and other GOPe swap creatures do not realize (yet) is that the Rubicon has been crossed. The Communists now realize that even in “red” states like Georgia they can cheat their way into power, and the GOPe is too week and feckless to stop them. Starting with the upcoming run off in Georgia, get ready for levels of voting fraud that will make the 2020 presidential election look squeaky clean by comparison.

GA is largely lost. If Biden takes NV, and wins GA, it is over, even if Trump takes the other outstanding states and AZ flips back.

We are seeing aa familiar trend, in national elections. A Republican candidate is leading, sometimes by a significant margin, within hours of the polls closing. However, in those states with large, Democrat controlled cities, we watch as more and more votes trickle in, sometimes over days, which heavily favor the Democrat candidate. We sit by and watch as the Republican’s lead dwindles and, in many cases, is wiped out entirely. And, we are then expected to believe that no manipulation of the votes occurred, even in the face of significant, credible evidence of “irregularities”.

What is so depressing about this is that we actually allow it all to happen. There is no credible investigation done. There are no penalties assessed. It is just allowed to continue. And, it is happening again. Look at some of the responses on this site.

People are trying to predict that everything will turn around, miraculously, in 2024. That we will have an honest election. How this will be possible when the dishonest politicians will control the federal government during that time is not pointed out. Also, people are thrilled that the Republicans have become the party of the people. Of course, when a few politicians control the vote certification process and can simply manufacture the votes needed to put their candidates in office, then voters are no longer necessary. But, if the flagrant vote fraud, which occurred in WI, MI, PA, GA, and is occurring in NV is allowed to stand, then this nation has lost everything. The political class, which has nothing but contempt for the voters to begin with, will ignore their wishes and implement their own agenda. Without honest, fair elections, they no longer need the voters to maintain their phony bologna jobs. They will be free to belly up to the public trough and eat their fill.

This nation was born because politicians refused to honor the desires of the residents of the Colonies. It was not born in government courts. It was not born at the ballot box. It was not born on the pages of news papers. It was born on the battlefield. Will we see a rebirth? And what will it be like?

    navyvet in reply to Mac45. | November 6, 2020 at 12:56 pm

    The key here is the “extra” votes are all for one candidate. If these were “legitimate” votes, there would be some for each. It appears those committing fraud are not as smart as they think.

      txvet2 in reply to navyvet. | November 6, 2020 at 1:10 pm

      Per Rush, Trump had something like a 700K lead in Pa. before they paused counting. Apparently they felt that they had to give all of the “new” votes to Biden to make up the difference.

      I do wonder if they WANT to be caught – because the fraud has been so egregious. Biden down 1M votes and made up in a day after the counters shut sown early AM of the 4th?

      Some reckon that the machine (Dominion) fix didn’t deliver the win so they had to resort to ballot stuffing in the wee hours. Another suggested the Dems knew they would lose, so to appease their constituency do they 1) Oopsie! We lost (helluva narrative) or 2) “Trump stole the election and is illegitimate” (red meat) the TDS-addled?

      I think it boils down to no 2) and we’re in for serious and violent blowback on 1/20 when Trump is sworn in again.

    txvet2 in reply to Mac45. | November 6, 2020 at 1:15 pm

    GA may still come out OK when they count the military ballots. It would help, of course, if they weeded out the fraudulent ones, but we know that isn’t going to happen.

    “People are trying to predict that everything will turn around, miraculously, in 2024. That we will have an honest election. How this will be possible when the dishonest politicians will control the federal government during that time is not pointed out.”

    Indeed. One of the more distressing reaction to this descent into totalitarianism is the sappy-happy talk from some pundits who are convinced the Republican Party will come roaring back in 2022 and 2024. What on earth makes them think those elections will be less corrupt than what we are witnessing now? The United States is now Cook County, and the day is coming when it will become North Korea.

      “”sappy-happy talk from some pundits””

      And some commenters here on LI. In 2016, the Dems cheated in the very same precincts and states as this time. The response was, essentially zero from the Trump Administration, I suppose because he won and they figured no harm, no foul (plus, of course, he was on defense all of the time against the ongoing attempted coup). Well, this time there’s harm and a lot of fouling, but it’s still just a continuation of 2016 with the same criminals in the same cities and it derives directly from the failure to prosecute the fraudsters the last time. Since it appears that the Dems will be successful in stealing the presidency, there won’t be any pushback this time, either, once Trump’s legal challenges fail, so the fantasy that 2022 and 2024 will somehow be better seems a little Pollyannish, not to mention insane.

        txvet2 in reply to txvet2. | November 6, 2020 at 1:50 pm

        Correction: 2022 may indeed be slightly better, because so much of the election will be held outside leftist areas of control – but that doesn’t hold for 2024.

Must read analysis/summary by a retired auditor about red flags. When there are so many and they all benefit the same party something bad is likely going on an a full investigation is necessary.

    MarkSmith in reply to JHogan. | November 6, 2020 at 2:04 pm


    At first I thought that is was going to be a groaner, but it got better. Great article – ignore the language.

    HOWEVER, that’s useless obfuscation. Because if you calculate the number the same way that most Americans do, their turn out was still like 90%, which is a rate normally reserved for dictators (that combined with the vote ratios would have made Saddam Hussein blush). I had one liberal guy point out that notoriously corrupt Seattle also gets 90%… which doesn’t exactly help his case.

    Because here’s the kicker, the high turn out is the average for the state, but when you drill down on the source of these statistically improbable blue vote dumps, they’ve got districts with TWO HUNDRED PERCENT TURN OUT. That’s over 200%. There’s 7 over 100%, and a ton of them in the 90s.

We have a Republican Governor in Georgia amd he did nothing
We have a AG that has been invisible
We have a Republican majority in the Senate that has been invisible for the most part

I will never vote again, I will never donate money or work for any campaign

America ?? s gone, we could t keep the Republic Ben, I am so very very sad and sorry

    txvet2 in reply to gonzotx. | November 6, 2020 at 1:31 pm

    “”I will never vote again””

    “I’m gonna shoot myself in the foot. That’ll show’em.”

    We don’t have many ways to influence things. In Texas, we’ll still have relatively honest elections.

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to gonzotx. | November 6, 2020 at 2:58 pm

    Gonzo, that’s because it is really only ONE PARTY and they’re really DEMOCRATS!

    I’ve got a RINO Mayor and RINO Gov. like that and this state is supposed to be more conservative than Texas!

Now that they have screwed Trump they are moving on to the Senate. Then guess what that Blue wave in the house will suddenly reappear.

McConnell’s answer is insufficient. Anyone with a Republican Senator should notify them that if Trump loses and they have not put out a fight tofinish, then they will not be supported in the next election. I would rather vote for a Democrat.

I’ll give Graham a nod, but I remember the past. Is he just making a show to look good while letting Trump slide?

Make it clear, you want any support from us, you need to go scorched Earth. Otherwise we will simply make our own party.

Let them know we will not tolerate Republican deep state any more then we tolerate a Democrat deep state.

    MarkSmith in reply to RodFC. | November 6, 2020 at 2:08 pm

    I fell your pain, but I will shot my self before I vote liberal. It just feels like I would be eating moldy cheese or something like that. Or stepping in dog sh%%.

      RodFC in reply to MarkSmith. | November 6, 2020 at 2:39 pm

      I agree about voting for Democrats. Just don’t vote for crooked Republicans. Go vote for the Libertarian. Don’t contribute to the Republican’s in general. Don’t support by being an election judge, canvasser etc. Only support candidates that you know are populist and totally honest.

      It’s good to not eat the cheese with the white mold on it, but that doesn’t mean that you should eat the cheese with the green mold on it.

      I am not supporting a GOP deep state to avoid a Democrat deep state. In either case the deep state has won.

        txvet2 in reply to RodFC. | November 7, 2020 at 1:07 am

        Oh, for crying out loud. Be honest for a change. If you want to elect Democrats, then contribute to the Democrats, volunteer for the Democrats and vote for the Democrats, but stop pretending to some moral high ground by voting third party. There isn’t anything more dishonest or hypocritical.

      If you have a choice, choose the cheese.

    scooterjay in reply to RodFC. | November 6, 2020 at 3:59 pm


    It is still early. I suspect LG will stab him in the back soon.

    I hope not, but ooga chacka ooga chacka! I can’t stop this feeling, burning inside of me.

    Tim Scott needs to step up to the plate as well.

      I think LG is happy to see him go down, and is willing to stand on the sidelines and give him any help as long as it is useless. That way he can court the Trump voters with lies.

      Just watch as all those people who voted R for the first time stop voting R because the other candidates don’t excite them.

if other states did what Maine and Nebraska do with electoral awards so much of this crap would not be an issue.
but decades of dem messing with EC have nullified it in many states.

I’ll take Pollyannas over fence-sitting catastrophists who almost seem to revel in the possibility of their side “losing” so they can smugly say I-told-you-so.

At least the former are trying to look forward and see paths out of the current fog, even if some of their hopes are unrealistic.

Optimism is oxygen, harmful in excess but vital in the right amounts. Pessimism is poison even in small doses.

Just in case anybody was naive enough to think that the Dems will just forget about Trump if/when he leaves the WH, there’s this development.

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | November 6, 2020 at 2:49 pm

Biden Gained Over 1 Million Votes in Pennsylvania


WOW! They Want You to Believe This?

Of course NO ONE Believes that – not even Democrats!!!!!!!!!!!

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | November 6, 2020 at 3:11 pm

Protect the Vote – Stop the Steal Rallies for Friday; Trump Supporters Urged to Attend

Fight to the Finish

(w/ Fog City Midge, Richard Baris, and Nigel Farage)

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | November 6, 2020 at 3:45 pm

BET Co-Founder: Another Trump Term Good For Black Americans

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | November 6, 2020 at 4:02 pm


Illegal Router Connecting Tabulation Machines To Internet Discovered In Michigan

It ain’t over till it’s over.

And it ain’t over.

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to | November 6, 2020 at 4:30 pm


    VIDEO: Philly Ballot Counters …Caught Filling In Ballots…

      notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital. | November 6, 2020 at 4:30 pm

      teezelkitty the tesseract cat • 6 minutes ago

      The bastards knew that they could never win this legitimately, so the first thing they did was team up with the Chunk/Coms to create a major SCAMdemic that cleared the way for the excuse to flood the voting apparatus with unsolicited mail-in ballots. Then they kept all the ILLEGAL votes in lock-ups to use if Trump got too far ahead, and then we saw just that when they paused the count in the wee small hours of the morning when Trump was ahead! My only hope now is that Dems will start eating each other and create utter chaos, and that we can take back the House in 2022 and render them powerless! But, hopefully, God will grant us His Grace once again, and Trump can pull a victory out of defeat!


      And what does twatter put at the top of that tweet?

      Some or all of the content shared in the Tweet is disputed and might be misleading avout an election or other civic process. [Learn More]

      And at the bottom of the tweet under the video in the tweet:

      ! Learn about US 2020 election security efforts

      How nice to see that twatter will go the extra mile for the democrats and disclaim any tweet that implies the democrats are committing fraud right out in the open.

I don’t get Trump’s inaction! When the first poll watcher was kicked out of a counting room, Trump should have had US Marshalls escort him back in and arrest anyone that tried to stop them. Trump could have every mail in counted ballot impounded for a verification check. He acts like he’s not taking this seriously. He could issue an executive order requiring each state to provide a voter registration list and a list of everyone that voted

    Barry in reply to MarkS. | November 6, 2020 at 7:19 pm

    Ain’t that cute.

    You think state officials will comply? The same ones that will steal an election?


notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | November 6, 2020 at 5:27 pm

A List of Important Dates and Links to State Legislatures to Call to Demand Democrats Don’t Get Away with Stealing the Election

BREAKING: 11,791 Ballots Released by 3 Arizona Counties – 66.3% For President Trump!
By Cristina Laila
Published November 6, 2020 at 4:14pm

BREAKING: Michigan ‘Computer Glitch’ Fixed Giving President Trump 2,500 Votes – GOP Demands 47 More Counties Corrected
By Joe Hoft
Published November 6, 2020 at 4:10pm

This is what the establishment thinks of Trump and us.

Thesis likely to piss a lot of folks off: Biden victory combined with (apparent) R control of Senate is best long-term scenario for conservatives. Opportunity to win presidency in 2024 is much stronger than with second Trump term. R Senate can limit much of Biden damage.

    MarkS in reply to RodFC. | November 6, 2020 at 6:20 pm

    Sounds to me like you’re trying to put lipstick on a pig!

    Fraud in Georgia appears to be massive: if it holds for Trump now, expect both Republicans to lose in January and Schumer to become Senate Majority Leader.

      The funny thing is that even if the R’s hold on McConnell will not get everything he wanted.

      Most of the important cases go through the DC Circuit. Anyone who followed Flynn knows that the DC Circuit has about three times as many OBama judges as any other President appointees. Even if SCOTUS keeps overturning them, they can just ignore SCOTUS and keep forcing SCOTUS to take their cases.


My advice is be optimistic. Let the litigation and analysis of the votes cast v registration list v SSI data v USPS data go forward. Lot’s of click bait conspiracy theories out there. Buyer beware.

The important thing is to identify and expose any illegal practices. That gets us to reform, maybe. At a minimum it creates the anti corruption playbook for future elections.

I would remind everyone that GA is likely to hold two Senate races in a very few weeks. We desperately need to have confidence that those two races are fairly contested.

Will all the anecdotal and statistical evidence on hand or gained in the next few weeks be enough to put Trump back in for a 2md term? I have no idea. Neither does anyone else before a detailed dive into some of these states practices.

The most important thing is don’t give in to despair. Go down fighting a grudging retreat. Regroup at the rally point. Then begin preparing to fight the next stage. Hour by hour. Day by day. Week by week.

So, when a mail-in ballot is processed, is the envelope and postage cancellation retained?
Lots of pre-paid mail doesn’t even receive cancellation… I am unsure how this works.
That would make it impossible to segregate ballots…

    CommoChief in reply to snowshooze. | November 6, 2020 at 8:46 pm


    Each State has different laws. Each county election board and each precinct have different personnel.

    Is your question what is supposed to happen?
    Is your question what will happen?

    In either case a local precinct could simply ignore State law and mix the ballots. The only thing that prevents that is the ethics of the election officials and the observers who are there to keep things honest.

    Now you see why keeping observers out of the building or so far away from the activity that they can’t truly see exactly what is occurring would be beneficial to an election official who wanted to engage in shenanigans.

    The observers are pre positioned witnesses. If the witness is not able to state with certainty what they seeing due to distance then they are not being allowed to do their job.

    Imagine an observer being deposed,
    Q. What did you see?
    A. I saw people with papers at a table.
    Q. What were the papers?
    A. I believe they are ballots but I can’t say for sure.
    Q. Why can’t you say for sure?
    A. I was too far away to make out the writing/printing on the paper.
    Q. So the papers could have been something other than ballots?
    A. Yes sir, the papers were unidentifiable from our vantage.

    Again, the role of the observer is to be a witness. If they can’t accurately testify to what is going on, then their mere presence in the building is not meaningful observation.

Massive voter fraud in GA.

We need to tar and feather some election officials.

We knew at the outset there would be fraud.
More than ever.
Now, we need to determine if we have representation.

It’s time for AG Barr to process those in the Obama administration who attempted to overthrow a duly elected President. They need to be charged with either treason or sedition. And that includes Joe Biden.
Also, when will Hillary pay for her crime of violating our espionage laws?
I think Barr dragged his feet so he didn’t have to prosecute anyone in the FBI and Government. That makes the Republicans as bad as the Dems.

That ballots were mailed to millions of voters who had not requested them is fraud in and of its self. Actually, that any ballots at all are sent by mail is fraud, but we can’t find any other way to let members of our military to vote.

Ballot harvesting has one difficulty, how to get the harvested ballots back into the polls to be counted. Drop boxes and mail boxes solve that problem cleanly.

The entire election was a fraud and, if not overturned, will be the last election ever held in the USA.

Exactly as predicted, the media is now declaring Biden the winner.

It’s probably going to be a shock to them when Trump doesn’t quietly bitch out like other RINOs.

I’m pretty sure this ‘meeting’ Saturday with Republicans is to tell them to saddle the fuck up and get on board because he’s not conceding in the face of this laughable farce.

I am now suspicious of previous elections. The amount of fraud being exposed if not prosecuted will make US elections a joke going forward.

What gets on my title is the new media hotness of labelling anything Trump says as “unsubstantiated”.

Anyone remember the media doing this for every fucking Democrat created Russian collusion hoax story they breathlessly reported on. No, me neither.