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Biden COVID-19 Advisor Suggests 4 to 6 Week Lockdown

Biden COVID-19 Advisor Suggests 4 to 6 Week Lockdown

Scary: The advisor “added that federal borrowing could bail out small- and medium-sized companies, cities, states and county governments.”

https://twitter.com/zGuz/status/1326591680699641856?s=20

You cannot say you weren’t warned.

Joe Biden already chose his COVID-19 task force, which includes Dr. Michael Osterholm.

Osterholm, an expert on infectious diseases at the University of Minnesota, suggested a 4 to 6-week lockdown “with the government compensating workers for lost wages.”

From FOX Business:

“We could pay for a package right now to cover all of the wages, lost wages, for individual workers,” he told the outlet, noting low interest rates. He added that federal borrowing could bail out small- and medium-sized companies, cities, states and county governments.

“If we did that, then we could lock down for four to six weeks, and if we did that, we could drive the numbers down,” he said. “Like they’ve done in Asia. Like they did in New Zealand and Australia.”

Ah, yes. A perfect way to get people to rely on the government.

It doesn’t surprise me. Biden made it no secret he wants lockdowns and a national mask mandate.

Osterholm has a history of coronavirus fear-mongering:

He said a vaccine could be widely available next year – but not before the risk of “pandemic fatigue” sets in as people slack off on their adherence to coronavirus health guidelines.

In particular, he warned, Americans could start gathering more in indoor spaces, where the virus spreads more easily, as the weather grows cooler.

So he is urging social distancing and other public health recommendations in addition to renewed shutdowns.

Get back in line, people. Stop being individuals! How dare you want freedom.

Osterholm declared America is going to face “COVID HELL” very soon:

Earlier this week, Osterholm warned that the country was about to enter “COVID hell” as new cases soar and hospitals see a renewed strain on their capacity to treat the illness.

“When we were at 32,000 cases a day in the United States, people thought that maybe things were going to start going away,” he told Minnesota Public Radio Monday. “As you saw, we’re now at 125,000 cases per day. We’re seeing hospitals right now completely overwhelmed in a number of states.”

Those numbers will continue to climb, he predicted, for at least the next two to three months.

Covid hell.

I really wish people put this much emphasis on the flu. Stupid me didn’t get the flu shot last year (I have to with my 3 autoimmune disorders) and I got it, but it quickly turned into pneumonia. Almost had to go to the hospital, but I managed it.

Trust me, government. Us vulnerable people can take care of ourselves. We take the precautions we need to every cold and flu season (minus last year and I paid for it with pneumonia and a tongue lashing from my rheumatologist). We don’t need healthy people to give up their lives and well-being.

Just leave us alone.

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This clown has never even been introduced to SCIENCE.

Colonel Travis | November 12, 2020 at 5:13 pm

I heard a guy on Prager’s show today, who is a statistician and former professor at Cornell’s medical school. William Briggs. He wrote a book about the nonsense going on with CV19, I was so impressed by him, I bought the book.

There is more BS flying around than coronavirus, we cannot allow people like this to run our lives into the ground. My mother in law has been petrified for months, my wife hasn’t said much just to keep the peace but she’s been frustrated. I told my wife – you have to challenge what she’s telling you, you cannot be silent any more. She has started to push back, not being a jerk about it, and her mom started thinking differently about stuff for the first time.

We have to fight against this tyranny every way we can.

As we enter our 7th month of” 15 Days to slow the Spread!” I’m not sure sure I wouldn’t simply die of old age before we the end of “6 Weeks to Save The State.”

I mean we still don’t know how long aere 15 days of lockdown actually take. At the rate we’re going six weeks will exceed the heat death of the universe…

Money, money, money. Spend, spend, spend.

That’ll solve the problem.

Are we going back to the essential worker scheme? He probably will want to shut down the meat plants and walmart. So everyone is at home with nothing to eat … Not really thought out.

So after six weeks the virus will just disappear like magic. Don’t think so.

    Milhouse in reply to Gersh204. | November 12, 2020 at 8:40 pm

    Well, that does seem to be what just happened in Australia. That doesn’t mean it was the right thing to do, or that it would work here, with our porous borders.

      randian in reply to Milhouse. | November 12, 2020 at 10:32 pm

      Australia and New Zealand have a problem: if the virus is really gone, then they have an entire population without defense against the disease. They can’t reopen the country because covid will arrive with a vengeance from tourists.

        markymark in reply to randian. | November 13, 2020 at 11:34 am

        Exactly

        Milhouse in reply to randian. | November 14, 2020 at 8:24 pm

        That may very well be true. They may have to stay closed to tourism and immigration until the vaccine has done its work. Nonetheless it does appear that after a draconian lockdown the virus did disappear. Their cases are now down to zero.

The Friendly Grizzly | November 12, 2020 at 5:39 pm

Nancy Reagan provided a phrase. Let’s use it when they try the next lockdown. Just say “no”.

    I’m all for it. It’s Eric Cartman’s favorite word.

      C. Lashown in reply to DaveGinOly. | November 13, 2020 at 11:02 am

      WHO CARES what Biden or any of his trained idiot trolls say? He’s not the POTUS and has less power than my roll of bathroom tissue, and smells worse! This is the same as little girls playing at having a tea party with their dolls….it’s cute, but it’s not reality. I’ll wait for reality to take shape, thank you very much!

Is he a vaccine denier? Moderna and Pfizer will be ready with mRNA vaccines shortly.

I’m afraid the Biden Putsch will not approve any vaccines and lock the nation down for months.

This national one size fits all approach really pisses me off. I live in the 2nd largest county in my predominantly rural state, and since this whole thing started we’ve had less than 20 confirmed cases, and zero deaths. ZERO DEATHS.

Why in the hell should my county and community be locked down?

    redc1c4 in reply to SField. | November 13, 2020 at 5:35 am

    for your own good, of course.

    now shut up serf, and stop complaining, or things might get ugly.

    you need to know your place in the new regime.

Now we know why Nancy Pelosi dragged her feet with the second stimulus package – she was hoping her party would gain the Senate and the Oval Office, and then they’d be able to get the package they originally wanted, one with bail-outs for local and state governments. Meaning bail-outs that have nothing to do with COVID and everything to do with mismanaged budgets and retirement funds in certain Democrat-controlled jurisdictions.

    C. Lashown in reply to DaveGinOly. | November 13, 2020 at 11:18 am

    Yup! My money is on the thought that this plan has been in the works for several months. Let’s face it – the Democrats really HATE TRUMP….serious, howling at the moon hatred!

    Everything just fell into place. Biden as candidate was perfect, since he had nothing to loose and he wouldn’t be doing anything anyway. Other’s would be taken out of the limelight, and if Biden was really elected everyone would have a nice cushy job with a big paycheck and power. Then they could start building for the following 4 years. Biden would be dead and his VP would be in charge…for another 8 years! She had been elected as VP for 4 years, so there were two whole terms she could be elected for as POTUS. No wonder that nasty thing is laughing all the time, she’s constantly thinking of being POTUS for 8-11 years! Conniving evil…

    Then there is Obama… Here’s a man who can say one thing and have it mean 10 different things.

    We, the GOP, laughed at Slo Joe hiding in his basement while Trump hustled around 7 days a week talking to people. I doubt he was ‘hiding’, he just wasn’t needed – other’s were doing the hard work around the country. Think of how much can be accomplished if people are working on your behalf all over the country??? Perhaps it wasn’t needful for Biden to talk to people, everything was being accomplished by a hidden crew in the background. Slo Joe could stay home and watch cartoons or whatever the old pervert did in his spare time.

So Beijing Biden thinks he’s got a pen and a phone to issue diktats?

Still haven’t been able to find that “pandemic” clause in the Constitution.

Beijing Biden is in his late 70s, so according to his pal Dr. Emmanuel, he’s due to be put out to permanent pasture anyhow.

DieJustAsHappy | November 12, 2020 at 6:26 pm

“Osterholm, an expert on infectious diseases at the University of Minnesota, suggested a 4 to 6-week lockdown.”

For Biden?

The majority is getting what they voted for, and the rest of us suffer. #thecurveneverflattens

“Six weeks to postpone the inevitable!”

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to MrE. | November 12, 2020 at 6:36 pm

    Or 4, or 6, or forever.

    DIMS can’t do science or math cause they’re Racist.

I do not believe my little rural town in AZ will accept another lockdown and there are many people that pack heat…so good luck trying to enforce it. In addition, I cannot imagine that rural hospitals will survive another round of elimination of “elective” care.

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | November 12, 2020 at 6:47 pm

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So if the science says lockdowns shouldn’t work, how does one explain Australia’s results? After a severe lockdown, they’ve got new infections down to nearly zero. Coincidence?

    fishstick in reply to Milhouse. | November 12, 2020 at 8:50 pm

    yet America was shutdown for nearly 3 months straight and virus looks to be spreading farther than ever heading into December

    the truth is, I think our ‘science’ heads have no clue as to real transmissibility of this virus

    there is likely some unknown factor they are not even aware of, like in fucking bugs and rodents for all we know

    heck – they relied on bad models and projections early on, which hadn’t seemed to improve months and months later as the numbers were factored down and down as time went on

    yet now we are getting a big spike in cases for no reason these fucks have predicted

    this virus is not going to be beaten back until a vaccine can make half the population immune to it

    it is going to take a combination of people having antibodies + a reliable vaccine to eventually kill it off

    and that is if it doesn’t mutate into another strain

    (Sorry -didn’t mean to downvote you)

    Germany and England had lockdowns, yet are facing more Wuflu cases. Sweden didn’t have the draconian lockdowns other European countries had, yet seemed to have escaped the worst (so far).

    Australia is in the Southern Hemisphere, and I have to wonder if climate and the warming weather and general climate had something to do with the reduction in cases. Also, Australia is one of the most sparsely populated countries in the world (3.3 persons per km^2), and that may also play a role. Finally, Australia does not share a border with any other country (unlike the US, Germany, and most of Europe), so the number of places of foreign entry are perhaps more easily controlled.

    All in all I am skeptical of the ability of lockdowns to fight a pandemic.

      notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to Recovering Lutheran. | November 12, 2020 at 10:35 pm

      Herd immunity and warm weather……

      Australia is not sparsely populated. Most of the population is actually densely packed into a few large cities. All the empty area is irrelevant to the virus.

      And the major difference between their experience and ours seems simply to be the draconian nature of their lockdown, which most of America would simply refuse to obey, and the fact that their borders are not very porous.

      It’s pretty much impossible to go to Australia now, unless you’re a citizen or resident, in which case when you arrive you have to go to a quarantine hotel, at your expense. And you can’t leave Australia without proving that you live overseas, and/or that you do not intend to return within the next six months (I think). I’m not sure of the details, but it’s something like that. I know many people who applied for permission to leave and were refused, but I also know students at US colleges who were allowed to leave on the understanding that they’ll be here for the whole US academic year.

    danvillemom in reply to Milhouse. | November 13, 2020 at 8:20 am

    I actually have friends in Australia. The federal government prevented travel between provinces, including highway stops looking for offending travelers. My friends are not so impressed with their governments response. They cannot stay locked down forever.

      Milhouse in reply to danvillemom. | November 13, 2020 at 11:03 am

      States, not provinces. It’s not Canada. But yes, the lockdown was (and for now remains) serious. And that is what this guy is proposing for the USA. Now other than “it’s offensive to our liberties”, tell me why it can’t work here. The two reasons I can think of are that it can’t work because people here will just not obey it, and that it can’t work because it’s impossible to stop people crossing the border. Give me some more reasons, if you can think of any.

        danvillemom in reply to Milhouse. | November 13, 2020 at 12:47 pm

        In AZ we had big spikes of cases in May – June time period. A contributor the case count was sick individuals crossing the border to get help in the US hospitals. I do not see this stopping with a different administration. A lockdown of US citizens does nothing to eliminate this cause.

        My Aussie friends have realized that they will not be able to travel internationally until the vaccine(s) have been widely applied. In addition, tourist will not be welcome to either NZ or Australia, causing damage to their economies.

          Milhouse in reply to danvillemom. | November 14, 2020 at 8:32 pm

          Yes, that is part of the price they are paying. And the people I speak to seem to believe that the results show that it was worth it. The Andrews government is very popular in VIC at the moment, because it beat the virus regardless of the price.

          I try to introduce people to the concept that a life has a determinable value, and it’s not worth spending more than that to save it, and that if we start saying that it’s worth spending an infinite amount to save even one life our lives will end up not only “poor, solitary, nasty, and brutish”, but also, ironically “short”. They don’t get it.

    Sanddog in reply to Milhouse. | November 13, 2020 at 11:34 am

    They’ve got a population of about 25 million which puts them between Fl and TX. Now compare that to 330 million in a country with porous borders that’s not an island.

    Evil Otto in reply to Milhouse. | November 14, 2020 at 7:43 am

    And how long will that last? Australia had one of the most severe lockdowns on the planet, but the virus is currently raging through the Americas, Europe, and Asia. So what happens when people are actually allowed to visit Australia again? Have the people there begun to acquire any sore of resistance to COVID?

    Below, you wrote “It’s pretty much impossible to go to Australia now, unless you’re a citizen or resident, in which case when you arrive you have to go to a quarantine hotel, at your expense.” They will have to keep doing this FOREVER, or at least until a vaccine is so widely available that they can inoculate their entire population.

    By the time this is over Australia won’t have an economy.

      Milhouse in reply to Evil Otto. | November 14, 2020 at 8:38 pm

      They still have an economy. They’re a lot poorer than they were, but now they can start going back to work and rebuild. They can’t have anyone coming in, so the tourist industry is pretty much dead, but other industries don’t depend on that. And once everyone can be vaccinated they can reopen.

      The point is that draconian lockdowns like this guy is proposing do seem to work. That doesn’t mean they should be adopted. We may decide the price is not worth paying. That is what I have been saying ever since the beginning of this plague, even while I witnessed the bodies piling up, even while I spent days thinking about the funerals that I wished I could attend. I believed and still believe that the cost of preventing it was simply not worth paying. But if we did decide to pay it it seems that it could work.

Lockdowns certainly do work. But they must be rigorous and strictly enforced (and be far more draconian than many Americans would tolerate – myself among them). If people don’t have contact with each other, the virus simply cannot find a path for transmission.
There are three problems with such lockdowns:
First, they are far beyond the authority of any government in this country.
Second, they arguably cause more damage than they prevent.
Third, once lifted, the population has no (additional) acquired immunity, and the virus is once again able to spread. What then – another lockdown?

Thought I remembered the name Osterholm. Last spring I read a piece by Mike Rowe (Dirty Jobs) who relied heavily on an analysis by Osterholm, which predicted 100,000,000 cases and 480,000 deaths (see: https://redstate.com/beccalower/2020/07/24/mike-rowe-answers-a-fan-letter-about-covid-19-it-probably-wasnt-the-answer-they-expected-n248711 )

Mike took a realists approach to how he’d address Covid and decided to simply live his life and not submit to fear. I.e., it’s here, it’s not going to go away, likely he will get Covid and he’ll probably survive.

So has Osterholm recanted or changed his tune to suit his party boss?

Osterholm was interviewed by Joe Rogan here: https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw

caseoftheblues | November 12, 2020 at 8:05 pm

So US citizens on total lockdown while we have completely open borders during this world pandemic….yup that’s leftist thinking

The main result of lockdowns is unemployment and poverty. You have more to fear from that than from bat fever.

I have visited Colombia and Costa Rica many times, they tried this for about 6 months and did not prevent outbreaks. After months they finally reopened the country internally and to foreign travel. The only people who suffered were the citizens.
You were limited in the days and hours you could be outside your residence, security would check your id prior to entering a store yo prove you could be out on those days.

    fishstick in reply to buck61. | November 12, 2020 at 8:55 pm

    where I live had a near 3 month lockdown

    only places open were a couple Walmarts and a gas store here and there

    every other business door was locked

    I mean we are still in phase 3.3 and not fully open

I like this idea. Once the country goes broke and the karens find out what kind of kinky sex they have to perform to make a buck, maybe they’ll actually change their voting patterns.
Might be too late but it’d be fun to see how cheaply they’d perform.

Now this is weird. This same guy was on Joe Rogan’s podcast #1439 on March 10th. There he said that trying to stop an influenza virus is like trying to stop the wind. He was talking about how the virus will be around until herd immunity kills it and that masks would not protect healthy people.

Does anybody know when he changed his opinion?

    randian in reply to vieras. | November 13, 2020 at 8:34 pm

    Robert Redfield (CDC Director) did substantially the same thing. In May published an official CDC summary of 14 studies showing masks offer no statistically significant protection against respiratory viruses, then in June said that masks offer stronger protection than vaccines and that we need 6-12 weeks of nationwide, mandatory mask wearing.

      notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to randian. | November 14, 2020 at 2:42 am

      The only thing those masks are designed to do is to prevent some fool like in the Seinfeld episode from spitting out a Mentos into the patient on the surgery gurney in the operating room.

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