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Whitmer Claims Trump ‘Complicit’ in Kidnapping Plot, But Suspect Also Called Him a Tyrant

Whitmer Claims Trump ‘Complicit’ in Kidnapping Plot, But Suspect Also Called Him a Tyrant

Suspect: “Trump is not your friend, dude. It amazes me that people actually, like, believe that when he’s shown over and over and over again that he’s a tyrant. Every single person that works for government is your enemy, dude.”

I am glad the FBI foiled the plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. I am glad she is safe and sound.

It disappointed me, but did not surprise me, that Whitmer claimed President Donald Trump is “complicit” in the plot.

However, a video of one of the accused shows him blasting Trump as a tyrant.

Everything is Trump’s Fault!

Whitmer blamed Trump:

“Our head of state has spent the past seven months stoking distrust, fomenting anger, and giving comfort to those who spread fear and hatred and division,” said the Democratic governor. “Just last week, the president of the United States stood before the American people and refused to condemn hate groups like these two Michigan militia groups. Stand back and stand by, he told them.”

“Hate groups heard the president’s words not as a rebuke, but as a rallying cry,” she said. “When our leaders speak, their words matter.”

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel blamed Trump and the protests surrounding Whitmer’s strict COBID-19 restrictions:

And we’ve heard the FBI director say in the past that white supremacy groups, militia groups, domestic terrorism posed one of the biggest threats that we have to the United States today. And I concur with that. I think he’s right.

But these are groups in multiple states, multiple jurisdictions that have been operating and really taking advantage of the unrest in American society right now. I think they’re taking advantage of the COVID epidemic, the Black Lives Matter unrest, and they’re using it to recruit and to formulate plots. And we saw that, you know, in real time here in Michigan involving not just the plot to kidnap the governor, but the plot to overtake the Michigan Capitol and potentially kill a number of public officials there and even threats and efforts to execute those involved in law enforcement – so a number of different plots.

But there are multiple white supremacy groups and militia groups that have been acting in accordance with one another. And, you know, ultimately, their mission is what they call the boogaloo. Right? It’s an uprising or a civil war. And these are a number of groups that are acting in concert based on, you know, a shared extreme ideology. And, you know, this effort to have a mass uprising nationally. And, you know, it’s something that we should be very concerned about because, again, it’s not just a Michigan problem. This is now an American problem.

Well, I think that when there’s a review of the individuals that were there at that protest, you will see that many of these individuals that were charged were at that protest. I think that those protests – those protests were used actually as recruiting stations to add more members and to find people that were angry with the governor, angry with the government and, frankly, I think encouraged by the words of our president.

The mainstream media immediately sided with Whitmer, pointing to Trump’s tweets. “LIBERATE MICHIGAN!”

They never ever want to place blame on the people directly responsible. It’s always Trump’s fault. It’s always the Republicans or Libertarians.

I hate sounding paranoid, but there’s too much evidence over the past four years.

But the Suspect Hates Trump

Reason’s Robby Soave spoke to a sociologist to argue Whitmer’s claims.

But suspect Brandon Caserta squashed Whitmer’s theory on his own when a video of him on social media showed he did not like Trump:

“Trump is not your friend, dude,” Caserta says, with an anarchist flag hanging behind him. “It amazes me that people actually, like, believe that when he’s shown over and over and over again that he’s a tyrant. Every single person that works for government is your enemy, dude.”

He also ranted about “getting robbed by government thugs for some made-up traffic violation” after receiving a traffic ticket.


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2smartforlibs | October 9, 2020 at 2:02 pm

This is 100% on you and your draconian lockdown Fuhrer.

Oh yeah that great big Anarchist flag with the red “A” on it behind his head says “Right Wing”. Sure it does! THat’s why Antifa has spray painted them all over Portland and Seattle!

    alaskabob in reply to Tom Servo. | October 9, 2020 at 3:39 pm

    There are some people who hate any form of structured government. That Gov. Whitless parrots the standard Dem lines doesn’t alter that. William McKinley, a Republican President, was assassinated by an anarchist in 1901. Which raises an interesting point… how many conservatives/Republicans have assassinated political leaders, especially Dems?

Gosh, one glimpse of that guy and I can tell you he isn’t on the right.
All leftist radicals have the look.

    CorkyAgain in reply to scooterjay. | October 9, 2020 at 3:42 pm

    The hoops embedded into and stretching his earlobes was the tell for me.

    Maybe there are some wackos on the extreme anarcho-libertarian right who go in for that look, but it isn’t something I expect to see at a Trump rally.

BierceAmbrose | October 9, 2020 at 2:22 pm

This is another one of those granularity hacks … “Complicit” grabs a lot of vague turf.

– Is one “complicit” if one ever said anything less than approving about someone who something bad later happens to?

– Is one “complicit” for advocating some of the outcome, but not the act: Ya say Whitmer shuldn’t be governer, so now any assassination attempt is your fault?

– etc.

The game is to keep the opposition — Trump, Trump supporters, the R party such as it is, freethinkers, etc. — off balance. Also dirty them up with the emotional association. And repetition lends credibility to the claim, especially a false one.

The granularity hack is you used to need actual malaficia(?sp?) to tag someone with this. With the vague “complicity” anybody who ever held a flashlight is guilty of lasering landing ariliners.

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to BierceAmbrose. | October 9, 2020 at 2:26 pm

    But it’s noooot working…….

    BierceAmbrose in reply to BierceAmbrose. | October 9, 2020 at 2:48 pm

    I think the countermeasure to gaming grain size is something like rejecting the premise. Every time they use the hack, call out the misrepresentation. And call it a lie. To their faces.

    “Right-wingers gunning for Whitmer.”

    – “You mean right-wing Anarchists, like the guy in the video?”

    – “Yeah, kinda of a piece with shooting up a congressional softball practice. Some folks shoot up people they disagree with.”

    – “Well it’s true that distaste for their Autarch in Chief spans the whole political spectrum — earned, I think. But the folks spinning up a kidnapping flew anarchist flags. BTW it was the FBI, federal admin agency under Trump, that unwound this plot n arrested the guys.

    – “But guns! … interesting all the people with guns who don’t do stuff like this.”

    Those are all counters based on taggin up on the granularity change. And its better if you just do it, rather than move to the abstract “That’s a fallacy.” It infuriates them. They can’t push pack without exposing their own granularity fallacy. The folks just bleating programmed lines will glitch n flail.

    While the Community Agitator in Chief did admonish his minions to “Punch pack twice as hard.”, he missed the other half. “Punch back every time.”

    They’re gonna hurt you, hurt them back … every time. The tenure-free Constitutional Lecturer didn’t have to include that second ones being surrounded by packs of flying monkeys n laptogs — ?flying laptogs? — ever on alert to ding anyone not with the program.

    Here’s the other thing … he called my mother a “Bitter Clinger.” The Dowager Empress called my mother “deplorable” and “irredeemable.” Whitmer, the Autarch is now sliming The President, his administration and anyone who supports him with flat out lies about what they didn’t do.

    Unless and until they repudiate those, the Alynski-ites and those around and came after — “repudiate” per movement doctrine — I’m free to ding them, anyone who supports them, and, indeed, anyone who declines to repudiate them, their program, their sponsors, their party, and their movement, with similar tags n smears as much as I want.

    They want a high debate of concepts and consequences, I’d prefer that — BTW, they’ll loose on skill and the merits. Until they call back — repudiate — their smears, this ain’t that, and politics ain’t bean bag.

    Witless, there, isn’t smart enough to tell the difference between an anarchist flag and a Maga hat. Though it is remarkable that the one, same person has managed to harvest scorn from both groups. So, um, talent?

If Whitmer was kidnapped (even if they did manage to get her forehead into the car) the kidnappers would probably let her go because she was too obnoxious to keep around.

My first impression of Gretchen Whitmer has that she was an escapee from Madame Tussauds’ wax museum.

She is just yet another broken toy.

The FBI labeled the happily little anarchist group as a “militia” – the first time that Antifa ever had that word applied to them. They did this before we even say the evidence.

The use of the word “militia” was no harmless slip up: the Lavrentiy Beria wannabes that run the FBI saw a golden opportunity to get Republicans blamed for months of Communist violence (Antifa’s target was allegedly the Imperial Queen Whitmer). The Joseph Goebbels media eagerly ran with the blood libel, and then suddenly clammed up when the truth began to emerge about the Antifa/BLM connections.

So it’s “Mission Accomplished” for the Communists in establishing a solid lie in the public’s collective consciousness.

Yeah here we go, suspected the Democrat’s Propaganda ministry would start accusing this kidnapping plot on “Right wing militia Nazis”

In all fairness if we draw a Vin Diagram then anarchists, small l libertarians and small govt r would overlap in the
‘believe govt is too intrusive category’.

That bit of logic aside, it is telling that the MSM rush ahead with a BS narrative that is proven false within a day if not hours. Then they lament that everyday Citizens don’t have faith or trust in corporate media.

    Exactly, the political spectrum ranges from left to right, from totalitarian to anarchist. However, it is more of an ouroboros, where the left-right nexus is leftist, in that anarchy normalizes totalitarianism.

The hell with these crazy guys – Barr just announced there will be no report from Durham before the election. Barr and that rat Wray are a scummy, treasonous team.

    Did anyone seriously think otherwise? Biden will win in November, Durham will release his report in December, and the new attorney general will reject it in January. Nothing to see here, folks.

The Friendly Grizzly | October 9, 2020 at 3:48 pm

He uses “dude” to make his point? Wow. So literate and articulate. And stuff…

Are they registered Democrats?
I am thinking there is a good chance of it.

So it turns out this has nothing to do with the right at all. Wish I could have predicted that. Oh wait, I did.

Nice try, Governor Klink.

Mostly peaceful Plotting….

    Quite literally: inprobable, inactionable, unrealized, a thought crime, where half of the attendants are likely informing on the other half.

They are all in their mid-30’s, living in Mommy and Daddy’s basement.
Never had a job, or paid a bill..