Joe Biden Debate Pledge To Transition Away From Fossil Fuels Could Cost Him Pennsylvania and Other Energy States
The Biden team is trying to explain his remarks and even some vulnerable Democrats are distancing themselves from his position.
Saying the United States should transition away from fossil fuels is a popular idea on the left. It’s not workable in real life, however. Millions of people depend on fossil fuels not only to heat and light their homes, but for their jobs.
During the final debate last night, Joe Biden said the United States should transition away from the oil industry. This was red meat for his base and the Bernie Sanders wing of the party, but it won’t play with millions of voters who live in the real world.
It’s easy to say you support the idea of abandoning fossil fuels, but if you want to know how that works out, look no further than California, where their green energy policy has led to rolling blackouts.
You can tell Biden’s comments were damaging, because the media has already moved to the ‘conservatives pounce’ stage of the issue.
Conservatives pounce on Biden’s desire to move away from oil
Conservatives pummeled former Vice President Joe Biden on Thursday for saying he wanted to transition away from the oil industry, accusing the Democratic nominee of being callous with the economy in his proposals for tackling climate change.
“I would transition from the oil industry, yes,” Biden said during the final presidential debate.
“Oh. There’s a big statement,” President Donald Trump responded.
“It is a big statement,” Biden shot back.
Here’s the exchange, if you missed it:
Reagan once said that if you’re explaining, you’re losing. Biden’s team is now explaining:
Biden's team seeks to clarify Biden's remarks on the oil industry, with @KBeds saying that Biden was referring to ending oil subsidies.
— Annie Linskey (@AnnieLinskey) October 23, 2020
Reactions came swiftly:
Biden spent four days practicing just to say that he’ll end the oil industry?
— Katya Sedgwick (@KatyaSedgwick) October 23, 2020
Biden said he is shutting down the oil industry as his closing argument for the race. He just told 10 million Americans he will take their jobs away.
— Jack Posobiec (@JackPosobiec) October 23, 2020
Solar and wind are doing great things for blackout California.
— Jon Gabriel (@exjon) October 23, 2020
Biden challenged Trump to post his previous comments on fracking. Naturally, Trump accepted the challenge:
Even some Democrats recognize the mistake Biden made here and know they are vulnerable on this issue.
Andrew Solender writes at Forbes:
Vulnerable Democrats Break With Biden Over ‘Transition’ From Oil Industry
Former Vice President Joe Biden’s remark during the final presidential debate that he would “transition” away from the fossil fuel industry was met with heavy pushback not only from Republicans – who instantly identified the remark as Biden’s weak point of the night – but vulnerable Democrats as well…
Rep. Kendra Horn (D-Okla.), one of the most endangered House Democrats, affirmed Trump’s reaction, calling Biden’s stated position “one of the places Biden and I disagree,” and declaring: “We must stand up for our oil and gas industry.”
Another vulnerable freshman Democrat, Rep. Xochitl Torres Small (D-M.N.) warned against “demonizing” the industry and stated she would “continue to stand up to my party when they’re out of touch with the reality on the ground.”
Energy policy is not just about jobs and convenience.
During one of the debates in the 2012 Republican primary, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said that energy independence is a national security issue. This point is not repeated nearly enough. As long as the United States can produce energy on its own, we are not beholden to potentially hostile nations for such a vital resource.
Like many people on the left, Biden is so comfortable with the talking points on fossil fuels that when Trump opened the door in the debate, Biden walked right through it.
Last night was a really good debate but the craziest part was when Trump asked Biden if he wanted to get rid of the oil industry and then Biden was like as a matter of fact I totally want to do that, in detail. And then Trump was like 'uhhhhhh did everyone get that?'
— Mollie (@MZHemingway) October 23, 2020
Many people are noting the impact this could have on Biden in states like Pennsylvania and Texas, but at the end of the day, this is an issue that affects every single American.
When the lights go out, all bets are off.
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Ending petroleum is fantasyland territory. biden got dragged by the far left, there’s no coming back from that.
That’s not the only thing costing Biden.
Joe Biden Promises Forced National Mask Mandate
and Regulatory COVID Nightmare When Elected…
Then last refuge
technology through centuries has brought us smaller yet more powerful tools (engines, machines, computers phones)
Yet renewables are much bigger and much less powerful.
If you cant comprehend efficiency, how can you possible understand climate science.
“Let’s ride with the family down the street
Through the courtesy of Fred’s big feet…”
You did not include Biden in your list of powerful tools.
Biden stepped in that pile and the aroma will remain long after he loses the election. Serves him right.
Biden’s team seeks to clarify Biden’s remarks on the oil industry, with @KBeds saying that Biden was referring to ending oil subsidies.
If he meant any such thing, even if he was having trouble with the word subsidies, he’d have said “get rid of, you know, the thing, that thing, you know, c’mon, man.”
I wonder what they mean by “subsidies”? As far as I know, the oil companies have specific accounting rules, both for FASB and tax purposes. But, every industry will have specific rules for depreciation, asset recognition, and other costs.
The industries getting the sweet deals are the wind and solar industries. And those industries are not environmentally friendly WRT production of the windmills and solar batteries as well as the impact of cleaning up after the useful life. See the issues of dealing with the windmill blades (they are burying them in the Dakotas) or dismantling the solar panels with the pollutants in them.
To leftists, all money belongs to the government and they parcel out bits of it to the “worthy”.
For instance, not applying a carbon tax to fossil fuels is a “subsidy” as it gives fossil fuels a price advantage over renewables. No, really. They even include the cost of our military because we defend our territorial waters against invaders, making it safe for offshore drilling.
Here is a “you’ve got to be kidding” lefty analysis of subsidies (don’t say I didn’t warn you!): http://priceofoil.org/fossil-fuel-subsidies/
All of your property “really” belongs to the government. That’s how they “buy back” the guns you own that you never bought from them in the first place.
Depletion maybe? But if the Dems are against depletion, it seems like depreciation would be next. They are against expense long-term asset expense recognition?
Spicer and Co just played about. Clips of Sundowner saying he would ban fracking.
The courts will give him Pennsylvania.
Just because the signatures don’t have to match AND can be turned in 3 days late? You let a little thing like that make you think the courts have decided to be political?
Without PA Trump has a very difficult road to victory. Furthermore, if PA is tied up for days counting fraudulent ballots and then for weeks in courts, with the election outcome unknown, the stock market will hate that – 10% off easily.
one can only hope it does…
we need a YUGE red wave to take Trump’s victory beyond the margin of fraud.
Clean up in aisle 6.
When one campaign spends the night and next day ‘clarifying’ their remarks, you don’t need a poll focus group to tell you who won.
And it won’t matter. Democrats are being totally open about their intent to cheat.
Their court literally just said that you can’t throw out ballots because the signatures don’t match. Couple that with a whole bunch of previous bullshit about accepting ballots for DAYS after the actual election, and they’re being totally open about the fact that they’re going to manufacture votes until Biden ‘wins’.
Is the Trump team appealing the decision?
Roberts just hung the court 4-4 allowing the previous bullshit about accepting them 3 days after the election without a legible postmark to stand.
There is ABSOLUTELY ZERO legal justification for this bullshit.
I honestly think that was the big kicker for a lot of Republicans to get Barrett on the court.
Roberts is a complete snake and can’t be trusted.
“During the final debate last night, Joe Biden said the United States should transition away from the oil industry. This was red meat for his base and the Bernie Sanders wing of the party, but it won’t play with millions of voters who live in the real world.”
“Transition away” – now there is a deceptive phrase! That is like saying the destruction of the World Trade Center was a “significant alteration in the superstructure of the two towers”. What the Communists plan to do will cause famine and death.
This was a huge mistake on Biden’s part. Think of how many people were talking about his words this morning, and that’s just those who actually put hard hats on and work in the energy sector. He basically let millions of people know their jobs and/or their family members’ jobs are going to go bye-bye if he’s elected president.
As for the fracking part, not too smart to say you’ve never been against it, dare Trump to prove otherwise, and his campaign does so within minutes.
I suspect Biden was “sundowning” at the end of the debate, lost control and forgot his lines.
Not to mention that wind and solar are inherently intermittent and need back up- which is ass backwards logic. Can one operate a steel mill, cement plant, glass plant or a semiconductor fab plant on intermittent power? We forget how much energy is in a gallon of gas. That one gallon will take my family and my 5 passenger car 30 miles in 30 minutes. Imagine lugging a gallon of milk or gas for 30 miles by walking. Save the fossil fuel and nuke plants.
Didn’t Obama win coal states after he said he was going to “end” coal by making it too expensive to mine?
It wasn’t the coal miners who put him over the top. It was all those city people he was able to bribe and bamboozle, the 110% of voters in certain Philly districts.
Want to know why we will not see the elimination of oil products for fuel? Convenience. Take your dedicated electric vehicle 300 miles and then recharge it for additional travel. For a full recharge from a nearly empty battery, the recharge time will run from a minimum of 30 minutes, with a commercial grade rapid charger to 8-10 hours with a home charger. The time to fill-up an empty gasoline tank is 5-10 minutes, including payment for the fuel. Who wants to buy a EV?
And buttplug said today we’re just a few years from no return on globull warming.
Gotta give them credit, they know how totally stupid their base is and keep feeding them the lies.
Kamala Harris is saying that what Joe Biden meant was that it’s not true that he is going to ban fracking.
If Biden wins, Kamala Harris will be president.
Sundowner Joe is all in the Global Warming church so of course he will shut down all fossil fuels he can ( or his handlers tell him to) I hope this is right but remember %90 of the people in Pennsylvania could care less not working in that industry.
If you spill gasoline and ignite it, it will release 10,000 BTU/min/square foot. If you know what a BTU is, then you will see this is an incredible amount of energy stored in that little can of less than one cubic foot. Put is another way, how far can you push your car? One gallon of gas will push it thirty miles or so in an engine that is less than 20% efficient. In other words, over eighty per cent of the energy used in a gasoline engine disappears as waste heat that is not used in as work energy.
Now name some other energy source that contains as much energy, is so easily transportable, and so safe to use? There simply is nothing else. There is no substitute. People have been searching for many decades looking for a replacement and none has yet to be found. Joe’s platform says let’s get rid of fossil fuels and hope for a miracle which is simply irresponsible on many levels.