Truck Drivers Might Refuse to Deliver to Cities With Defunded Police
“Imagine what kind of fool you look like for driving into a hot spot and putting your life in danger.”
American truckers have been working overtime since the beginning of the pandemic to deliver needed goods all over the country, and they have done a great job.
The left’s new effort to ‘defund the police’ is making some truckers nervous, and who can blame them?
We now have cities that are already going to be short on supplies due to the looting and burning of stores. What happens when truckers start refusing to deliver goods to these places? It could happen.
Melanie Gray reports at the New York Post:
Truckers wouldn’t deliver to cities that defund police, poll suggests
Truckers are promising to bring freight deliveries to a screeching halt in any city that cuts or disbands its police department, a new poll shows.
Three out of four long-haul drivers told CDL News, a website for the commercial trucking industry, that they would fear for their personal safety if a city slashed its number of cops in response to the demonstrations nationwide against police brutality.
Trucking ranks consistently as one of the most dangerous jobs nationwide, labor statistics show.
The poll referred to by the Post comes from Summer Smith of CDL Life:
Truck Drivers Say They Won’t Deliver To Cities with Defunded Police Departments
As cities across the country are discussing defunding or disbanding their police departments, truck drivers are voicing concerns of safety. Seventy-seven percent of truck drivers say they will refuse to deliver freight to cities with defunded police departments…
We asked drivers on the app, “Would you pick up/deliver to cities with defunded or disbanded police departments? Why or why not?”
As of June 13, 2020, we’ve had over 1,283 respondents and 79% say they will refuse loads to cities with disbanded or defunded police departments.
Here are some of their responses:
“…if something was to happen and you have to take matters into your own hands, and then you risk being prosecuted for protecting yourself.”
“This is not an area you need to act fearless and think you you’d look like a fool for saying no…Imagine what kind of fool you look like for driving into a hot spot and putting your life in danger.”
“I will not deliver to an area with a disbanded police department. My life matter and I do this for my family. We are already at the mercy of these towns and cities with laws and hate against us for parking, getting a meal or even using a restroom.”
What are the leaders of cities like Seattle and Minneapolis going to tell residents when their communities run out of food, gasoline, beer, shoes, clothes, paper products, and countless other goods?
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All these stupid commie wannabes still don’t grasp the reality that their system can’t work unless it’s propped up by capitalism.
Next, insurers will stop insuring those areas, banks won’t make mortgages. Then the accusations of redlining.
Seems like history repeats itself. Those that forget………….
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, these Democrat leaders Mayors Governors even the Congress Critters are going to be running for their lives from their own Democratic constituents!
Antifa Faction Of Occupy Seattle Group Turns Violent –
CHAZ Community Attacks and Chokes Christian Speaker…
The Last Refuge
Blue States doing what they are doing to Murder the Economy.
https://youtu.be/hW1HlmM3Vp4
Allow me to quote a pertinent passage from Wikipedia:
Robespierre was eventually undone by his obsession with the vision of an ideal republic and his indifference to the human costs of installing it, which turned both members of the Convention and the French public against him. The Reign of Terror ended when he and fifty of his allies were arrested in the Paris’ town hall on 9 Thermidor and executed the day after; events that initiated a period known as the Thermidorian Reaction.
I thought that Robespierre was murdered in his bath.
If they continue on this insane path, the time will come when these “progressive” leftist leaders can’t walk down the street without fear of getting lynched.
More and more people are getting red pilled regarding the Left’s insanity.
That’s going to happen ONLY if truckers won’t deliver. Banks won’t lend, or offer services and food runs out in those Blue cities.
There are already clauses in your insurance to not cover “acts of war” or “civil insurrection” in everybodies normal insurance contracts. You might be able to buy riders for covering that at additional charge, but it likely isn’t cheap.
Reject capitalism and law and order in the US and modern civilization comes to a screeching halt. Globally. It’s not only that insurance companies won’t cover/pay, your savings and investments will become frozen. Good luck turning your gold, IRAs and 401(k)s into spendable cash. In fact, good luck getting your cash out of the bank. The only thing that will matter are beans, bunkers and bullets.
I would expect coverage for acts of war and civil insurrection to be cheap, because they are normally rather rare events. Good luck getting a civil insurrection rider now at any price.
The past couple of years in northern CA homeowners started losing their fire insurance or the cost went through the roof. This was a direct result of the wildfires. So the legislature passed a law that insurance companies could not drop the fire portion of a home policy. As a result AZ homeowners are seeing our fire insurance premiums go through the roof. Companies still need to make money to exist. I suspect insurance companies will be forced to write policies in these areas and we will pay.
How can they? They haven’t been taught the truth about Venezuela, Cuba, and North Korea. They only got the lying vacation brochure from the DNC.
“Propped up” is too nice. Communist and socialist countries can’t survive economically and always end up being bankrolled by capitalist countries, or else their people starve.
When the host economy is all but killed and the flow of other people’s money slows to a trickle, socialism degenerates into a neo-feudal system where only the self-styled aristocracy and its cronies maintain a modern standard of living. Everyone else is reduced to abject poverty and squalor.
Canadians have kept Cuba going for decades and decades with their desire for dirt cheap tourism.
They are a very SICK generation.
And utterly hopeless.
We cannot save these people, but we have to deal with them. The only solution is very tough love: if they can’t take it, they’ll perish, but perish without damaging the rest of us.
They’re not “commie wannabees” – they’re pathetic narcissits, desperate for attention, position, etc. – based on nothing. They’re ANYTHING wannabees. You can buy one of these malignant corrupt clowns very, very cheaply.
After watching obama and cortez gaining high office, you can’t blame them.
Everybody; common-sense residents, business folk and tourists, should stay away from these cities. Let them drown in their stupidity. It’ll be like living in Mexico for the people that think they can mind their own businesss in those parts.
Sadly it’s the normals who move to a Red State, and then proceed to vote into office the same kind of morons who permitted this to happen in their own states. In re: Colorado…
Yes, it’s not just the truckers. Honestly, there shouldn’t be anywhere to deliver things TO if some city defunds their police.
Prosecuted by whom? Without police, who would arrest you?
the mobs. A robber of the wrong color gets shot by a trucker defending his life and business, and the SJW of the internet will dox him and give him an online lynching. And he will never work again.
With respect, Milhouse, it’s not about being “arrested.” It’s about being hijacked, set upon and “prosecuted” by the mob, sniped at, extorted, looted, etc., with no recourse but the “kindness” of the mob for survival/free passage.
As we’re watching in Seattle, it’s a combination of animal house, animal farm and lord of the flies.
In the end, I’ll assume you were commenting sarcastically regarding what law could occur in the absence of law.
History is replete with examples of precisely what these truckers expect.
Come now Milhouse, in liberal cities the police usually manage to have no problem coming after normal police.
The Seattle police can’t go into CHAZ but they can certainly deal with you if you disobey any of the rules. True here in Chicago.
Read what the trucker wrote — the police won’t go after the protesters who threaten the trucker by climbing on his drug and beating the windshields in, but if he drives through them to get away the police will arrest HIM.
There will always be a police force of one kind or another. Even if political leaders of these Stalinist redoubts were dumb enough to defunded the police (spoiler alert: they won’t – the real plan is to replace them with their own personal Stasi whose only job is to go after “racists”), then within 48-hours gangs and warlords would become the new civil authority.
It is safe to say a Biden-run US Justice Department would gleefully prosecute any white driver who shot and killed (or even injured) a black terrorist that was trying to assault him. Even the present Justice Department could possibly be bullied into doing the same. And that is not counting the local and state prosecutors who would want a piece of the action.
Milhouse, these deep-blue cities are slowly morphing into a weird hybrid of North Korea and Mogadishu. Evidence and investigations won’t be allowed to stand in the way of what these mandarins want.
The police aren’t there to protect the people from miscreants. They’re there to protect misceants from mob justice. When “Neighborhood Associations” start hanging looters from the corner ligth post…THEN you’ll see Democratic politicians start talking about far right racists…in 3, 2, 1…
Suddenly my stockpiling for “the Big One” isn’t so crazy is it? Very few of us are prepared for anything out here and with being constantly reminded to stockpile for earthquakes, you would think we would. But the lines at the markets during the shutdown tells me that the stupid super majority never will.
I could last 6 months with my supplies now that I’ve lost my trust in my neighbors and am not as likely to share. My plan was to barter ammo for supplies if it came to that but it looks more and more that I just may need it myself.
Need it for at least some of the neighbors 🙂
It is now on a “we’ll see” basis. Several of my neighbors are black and this is a moment of truth. They need to make it clear which tribe they are loyal to. I am not assuming anything at this point. Plus, so many of my neighbor who were friends have moved away or died so I would be mostly helping strangers. I am down to 3-4 friends who I trust to watch my back and they are not my neighbors. Don’t assume anything these days. Your life may depend on it.
Another issue is the protestors / rioters shutting down the freeways or local law enforcement shutting down the freeways in anticipation of a protest / riot.
This in itself leads to all kinds of disruptions in the chain, missed delivery appointments, pick up appointments, increased warehousing costs. This also puts drivers, cargo and equipment at risk to random violence. As an example a road shutdown in Atlanta may not just effect Atlanta but a customer in another city in another time zone.
I repeat my opinion that the law on this needs to be changed. Anyone going about his lawful business, who finds his way being deliberately blocked with no practical alternatives, should be entitled to drive through the blockers as if they were not there. If they get hurt, it should be considered self-inflicted. I don’t care if it’s protesters blocking a highway, picketers blocking the entrance to a plant, people lying down in front of bulldozers or on train tracks, or invading shooting or bombing ranges. It should be lawful to ignore them and keep going about ones business. They should not be allowed to have a veto on other people’s lives, let alone the country’s defense (as in those who lie in front of military trains or invade bombing ranges).
The Gene Pool Maintenance Law.
Again, with respect Milhouse, it’s not about changing laws. They already exist regarding road blockages, barriers, riots, etc.. It’s the absolute refusal of the mayors, county officials and governors to enforce existing laws.
The lawless are being emboldened and supported by those responsible for protecting a civil society. Those who still hope for the re-establishment of the rule of law are the last fence blocking civil war and chaos, both of which are the absolute goals of the left.
Interstate designated highways are classified ad Limited Access, and are not designed for pedestrians. Any one, peacefully walking or not, needs to be removed immediately.
It is about changing laws. Right now the drivers can’t go through the blockages because they’ll be arrested and convicted if they do. That law needs to be changed.
The instant a protester steps out into an active roadway, their status has changed and they are infringing on the rights/freedoms of the people they impede. I believe, at a minimum, criminal charges of false imprisonment should apply. Truckers are especially at risk in a lawless area, as they are prime targets of looters. Food delivery trucks will become huge targets once supplies dwindle. Now we’re getting to the leftist self-defeating argument for ‘de-fund the police’ part comes in, where calls for armed escorts (police? security? National Guard?) come up. liberals, leftists, progressives, whatever you want to call them, really are insane.
False imprisonment, is defined as follows, at least in the benighted state of Calizuela:
1. [A] defendant intentionally and unlawfully restrained, detained or confined another person
2. The defendant made the person stay or go somewhere against that person’s will. (Penal Code 236)
If the false imprisonment is accompanied by threat of force or violence, it is a felony.
Generally, throughout this country, a person who is reasonably in fear for their safety can use deadly force to escape the danger. I think that would likely be interpreted as including running over rioters who look like they are going to hurt you.
An unheard of rock band once blocked the 101 freeway in Los Angeles, and were charged with numerous crimes (I think they were misdemeanors, though). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sedbvNktQmE
At the very least, these idiot protestors/rioters ought to be charged with similar crimes.
If you are detained by such action, it’s equivalent to kidnapping, which you may resist by deadly force.
It’s not the LAWS that need to change, Milhouse, but the understanding of them, and how they are prosecuted. Of course, reversing corruption of laws is often only doable by writing new ones.
It’s much like Stand Your Ground laws. They shouldn’t need to exist. Given a proper understanding of the rights of a free citizen, you shouldn’t need a law to define your right to not retreat. But instead, laws were written.
And we drift ever more into the French method of law.
Isn’t surrounding your car kidnapping? I’m pretty sure it meets that definition in most (all?) states, and the law in every state is that one may resist kidnapping with deadly force.
“What are the leaders of cities like Seattle and Minneapolis going to tell residents when their communities run out of food, gasoline, beer, shoes, clothes, paper products, and countless other goods?”
Answer: “Welcome to Utopia, Comrade.”
No, it will ALL be Trumps fault … as usual!!!
It’s not just truck drivers. What happens if farmers, cattle ranches, meat packers, etc., decide they don’t want their products going to places that have disbanded the cops? The coastal elites wouldn’t last 2 weeks without the food, dairy, coffee and various other items required for daily living. The one thing social justice doesn’t teach is critical thinking skills. Downstream consequences are often far more serious than initially contemplated.
Yes. The ‘flyover’ states could bring the left coast and NE to their knees by withholding meat, dairy and grain. As often as the left maligns and disrespects them, I’ve wondered why they haven’t put the squeeze on metro areas before.
MrE, hard working people in flyover country just want to work, make a living and live their American dream. I guess they didn’t expect the big democrat cities to bite the hands that feed them. That includes hard working truck drivers. Why should truckers, bound by endless laws, rules and regulations bust their azzes to provide goods and services to a bunch of participation trophy kids smoking pot and spray painting graffiti everywhere? And risk being pulled out of their rigs by this same crowd to be beaten, killed, and their life’s work set on fire (if they are an owner/operator)? Many of us have seen this coming for a long time now. It’s going to be interesting to watch a bunch of people who couldn’t run a convenience store try to run six blocks of anarchy.
Interestingly, the settlers in the Jamestown colony went through the same experience and passed a rule: “If you don’t work, you don’t eat.” These Pilgrims taught us a valuable lesson: Communal arrangements only foster discontent, and the only “cure” for this social collapse is the free market.
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A Commune Called Plymouth: What the Pilgrims Taught Us About Socialism – AMAC – The Association of Mature American Citizens
The Plymouth Colony started out as a commune. Everyone worked for the common good…until they realized that MOST people simply weren’t working hard enough to produce food to last through the winter. That’s when the land was divided up with a lot for each family unit. History has a habit of repeating itself when Leftist ideas are involved.
“If you don’t work, you don’t eat.”
2 Thessalonians 3:10
I identify CKY. After marrying, I relocated to my wife’s ‘home-land’ – aka ‘Cornville’ – until just a few years ago when we moved back to WA to care for my ailing Dad. Thinking about moving back to ‘Cornville’ again because I can’t stand the liberal poop-topia that has become WA state. Though far from Seattle, our formerly red county is purple now and getting more stupid all the time.
What truly amazes me, is that it would never occur to farmers to boycott/starve out the obnoxious liberal areas. That to me speaks of their depth of faith, charity, and even patriotism.
Just ask Reginald Denny and Bogdan Vechirko how they faired after getting caught up in the melieu.
You beat me to it. Reginald Denny immediately came to mind. A perfect example.
The proper move in a truck is to contentiously blow the horn while dropping to low gear while keeping the RPM’s between 2000 and 2500.
These liberal cities better be paying attention. When/if the truckers refuse to deliver to the cities, the cities will devolve into chaos. No major city is more than ~3 days away from anarchy when the basic supplies run out. And that includes Nirvanaville. And we all saw several months ago how quickly the hoarding begins when people become scared.
Grocery stores would run out of food in just 3 days if long-haul truckers stopped working
https://www.businessinsider.com/grocery-stores-hospitals-gas-stations-would-suffer-without-truckers-2019-1?op=1
They’ll run out faster than that. As soon as rumors that the trucks aren’t delivering hit the grapevine every store will have a run on it. Give it a day, tops.
I’ve put in a lot of work. Also, I consider myself a tough guy. I think anyone who has been in a bar fight from Norfolk to Mombasa would say so. But goddammed. No police? I go to the farmers for my food.
Seriously, Like I said I’m tough. But I can’t stand up to dozens of men dragging me out of the cab of my truck. I can fight for a few minutes.
You ever tried it?
Three three minute rounds are a lot harder than they sound.
Reginald Denny attempted to drive a truck into a lawless LA protest over Rodney King. The brick to his head made it clear that truckers weren’t welcome.
Just let those cesspools starve until people grow a brain and vote out the liberal wackos.
Plus the Police standing back to avoid an incident. I watched that live.
Forget about railroads delivering to these hellholes. Most of them have stopped servicing these places years ago, when they found out could not charge any price they wanted to for freight. But then again, the major rail companies support groups like BLM and Antifa.
One needs to look at the example of Reginald Denny to know to stay far away from these places.
Where are the Teamsters? Isn’t one of their roles negotiation (and representing) its members? Because that sort of act would make Democrats look bad I will bet they never say a word.
Don’t look to the teamsters. They will puss out.
I will never forgive the unions.
They are democrats.
When I was sixteen I was forced to join the United Food and Commercial Workers Unions. It sucked.
I feel sorry for the FedEx trucker in St Louis who was forced off the freeway by rioters, who then surrounded his rig and started forcing the doors open to loot the packages.
The driver was justifiably frantic to get out of there, so he leaned on his horn and started to drive off. One of the rioters was between the trailers and got run over.
Now the Mob will accuse the driver (and FedEx) of murder for not giving up and letting them beat him to death and loot and burn his rig. No wonder drivers don’t want to go into cities without police protection.
The sheer horror of it all is what keeps me going. I know it sounds weird. I know it seems weird. But it they could do that to him, they could do that to me. And I’m not letting that happen to me.
No. Way.
I’m a simple man. They have sealed their fates. To the death. I bet you think that’s big talk.
I don’t feel sorry for anyone. And nobody should feel anyone should feel sorry for me. I just want to get this done with.
The short term goal is chaos. The long term goal is fascism, communism, or whatever you want to call it.
Narcissitic losers with a grudge want their 15 minutes and ‘free sh*t’.
This is a power grab by the swamp/left/islamic axis to seize our country from us. (They’ll kill each over the spoils later.) It’s nothing less.
Don’t lose sight of us being in a civil war just because looting has been replaced with mass protests. It’s all part of the plan. That truckers will starve cities also plays into their plan. ANTYHING to create chaos plays into their plan.
Their plan: create chaos and replace it with “their” order.
Well we beat then at their own game.
I might screw up. But I’m smarter than then they are.
Nearly everyone outside their circle of friends is smarter than they are.
Also I’m more likeable.
If the people in the big cities have police who are nonexistent or not effective keeping order – for any reason – they will go out into the surrounding areas looking for food and goods. If you think you’re safe because you live fifty miles away, think again. Your best course of action will be to form your own local support groups and prepare for the event. You will have a little time for preparation so use it wisely. Arm up. Stock up everything you can think of, not only ammunition.
Read the book “One Minute After”. It will scare you to death and give you incentive to prepare.
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“What are the leaders of cities like Seattle and Minneapolis going to tell residents…………”
That’s an easy one…..
All you truck drivers are racists!!!
Remember it’s NEVER their fault….