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In wake of continuing “protests,” CDC is urging the use of masks in public gatherings

In wake of continuing “protests,” CDC is urging the use of masks in public gatherings

Meanwhile, a “mask rebellion” is brewing in California.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA9CC-OfBV8

As I have noted recently, the coronavirus-induced panic has substantially receded since the Black Lives Matters demonstrations have begun.

As Americans’ fears have eased, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has decided to gin them up again by urging face masks use in its revised guidelines for “large political gatherings” . . . just in time for President Trump’s June 19 event in Tulsa, OK.

The CDC also released new guidelines for safely holding and attending events and gatherings, as well as precautions to take when going out as lockdown orders that took effect nationwide in March are lifted.

While officials steered clear of specifically recommending against attending a President Trump political rally planned for June 19 in Tulsa, Oklahoma, the guidelines published by the agency put such events in the category of “highest risk” for COVID-19 infection.

Specifically, it calls out, “large in-person gatherings where it is difficult for individuals to remain spaced at least 6 feet apart and attendees travel from outside the local area.”

“The more people an individual interacts with at a gathering and the longer that interaction lasts, the higher the potential risk of becoming infected with COVID-19 and COVID-19 spreading,” Friday’s guidelines said.

The agency is also threatening to implement mitigation measures again if cases go up substantially:

States may need to reimplement the strict social distancing measures that were put in place earlier this year if U.S. coronavirus cases rise “dramatically,” a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention official said Friday.

“Right now, communities are experiencing different levels of transmission occurring, as they gradually ease up onto the community mitigation efforts and gradually reopen,” the CDC’s deputy director for infectious diseases, Jay Butler, told reporters during a press briefing.

“If cases begin to go up again, particularly if they go up dramatically, it’s important to recognize that more mitigation efforts such as what were implemented back in March may be needed again,” Butler said.

He said the decision to reimplement measures will have to be made locally and based on “what is happening within the community regarding disease transmission.”

The CDC may find that reimplementation will not be the readily-accepted process it was the first time around. To begin with, Trump has already indicated a second lockdown guideline will not be issued in the event of another wave of infections.

Additionally, there is a “mask rebellion” that is occurring in California, the bluest of blue states.

….[A] mask rebellion is underway in some parts of the state, with residents pushing back on mandatory face-covering rules even with coronavirus cases on the rise and as more businesses open their doors and some people yearn to return to old routines.

The potency of mask politics became clear this week in Orange County, where the health officer resigned after weeks of attacks — and a death threat — over her mandatory mask rules. Her replacement on Thursday rescinded the rules amid intense pressure from the Board of Supervisors.

Instead, Orange County “strongly recommends” wearing masks in public settings, and the county’s top health official was left to explain the change even while acknowledging face coverings could prevent more deaths.

“I want to be clear: This does not diminish the importance of face coverings,” said Orange County Health Care Agency Director Dr. Clayton Chau, who is now also the interim health officer. “I stand with the public health experts and believe wearing cloth face coverings helps to slow the spread of COVID-19 in our community and save lives.”

Finally, in support of the end to pandemic panic, continuing analysis of COVID-19 cases from around the world indicate that it is up to four times less deadly than feared.

A review of antibody surveillance studies — which paint a much clearer picture of how many people have really been infected — suggests the coronavirus has a mortality rate of 0.25 per cent, meaning it kills one in every 400 people who get it.

Most coronavirus modelling, including the grim Imperial College London projection that warned 500,000 Brits could die without action and convinced ministers to impose a lockdown, are based on a death rate of around 1 per cent. For comparison, seasonal flu is estimated to kill around 0.1 per cent of patients.

The new estimate was based on figures from 23 different testing surveys carried out worldwide, which suggested the actual mortality rate ranged from as low as 0.02 to as high as 0.78 per cent.

I would like to note that if the press plans to focus on any outbreaks in Tulsa after Trump’s rally, I will also look forward to reading about all the “spikes” around CHAZ as well.

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Comments

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | June 13, 2020 at 1:20 pm

WHO?

WHO THE H CARES WHAT THE CDC SAYS!!!!!

The CDC is about as reliable as the FBI.

    Fauci the Clown needs to be replaced with someone who doesn’t slobber to seek hillary clinton’s approval. We don’t trust the putz.

    Put a real man or woman doctor up there with PDJT.

I’ve been leading my own mask rebellion for weeks now and I’m not alone. I can now identify the sheep by how people react to a mask-less person. They are in the great majority. Everyone is upset but who knows why. No one seems to talk to anyone else anymore. Life has become a Kafkaesque ordeal. I can’t wait to bolt this cuckoos nest.

    The hysteria is a contrivance. Yeah, there is a flu going around, and yeah wearing a mask in a epidemic is a good idea. But it should be a choice.

    If you are are so paranoid, wear a mask and gloves the rest of your life. The rest of us don’t need to.

Reference Xiao et al, “Nonpharmaceutical Measures for Pandemic Influenza in Nonhealthcare Settings – Personal Protective and Environmental Measures” Emerging Infectious Diseases, May 2020
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

Table 1 on second page (journal page 968). Read the main findings.

A taste: Face masks, 10 studies, randomized controlled trials (RCT). The evidence from RCTs suggested that the use of face masks either by infected persons or by uninfected persons does not have a substantial effect on influenza transmission.

If the 2020 date or University of Hong Kong affiliation does not sit well with you, follow up the fifty references.

For those who object “but this is not the flu,” consider this. COVID-19 is a respiratory virus that causes influenza-like illness, and spreads in a manner similar to flu. If the standard for accepting treatments and vaccines is RCT demonstrated safety and efficacy, then that same standard must apply for the treatment of universal masks, and all the rest of the mass interventions.

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to pinesol. | June 13, 2020 at 2:00 pm

    Plus masks are filthy.

    More people will get inflected with things such as pink eye, colds, etc….

    healthguyfsu in reply to pinesol. | June 13, 2020 at 3:31 pm

    Yes, but COVID 19 can enter cells through the ACE2 protein, which is a key enzyme involved in regulating blood pressure and cardiovascular function.

    It isn’t common, but in some cases, it may lead to hypertensive crisis, pulmonary edema, and heart failure. While this route isn’t common, underlying cardiovascular disease is VERY common in the US (and worldwide to a lesser extent). That is still a big unknown in this.

      rabidfox in reply to healthguyfsu. | June 13, 2020 at 8:44 pm

      The Hydroxichloroquine plus zinc seems to be pretty effective when started early. The earlier the better. Given that, I’m not going to go all hysterical over Xi’s Revenge.

    iconotastic in reply to pinesol. | June 13, 2020 at 10:39 pm

    You sound like my trauma nurse wife. She has a difficult time not laughing at people wearing masks around our extremely progressive island. I keep hissing at her to be quiet but she just cannot contain her mirth.

    We went into our upscale island grocery store today and were the only people unmasked. However, any number of folks had the masks pulled down past their noses so they could breathe. I hope I am a good example for them.

      amwick in reply to iconotastic. | June 14, 2020 at 7:48 am

      I agree with you and your wife, totally… But, recently I met a women during a walk along a nature trail…She was carrying her mask, and explained she would put it on if she walked back along a sidewalk with more people. She wasn’t a wing nut, she was afraid. I felt sorry for her. She was a victim of what MSM and the CDC and all the other alphabet groups have been shoving down our collective gullets. Fear is a powerful tool.

danvillemom | June 13, 2020 at 1:46 pm

Santa Clara county requires masks to be worn anytime you are outdoors….even in your own yard weeding. My husband will be revolting over wearing a mask playing golf. Needless to say you can understand why the San Jose police chief said..I am not going to enforce this order.

nordic_prince | June 13, 2020 at 1:47 pm

Where was all the handwringing over no masks and lack of “social distancing” during the riots?

Are these same scolds descending upon the rebellion in Seattle?

Nobody listens to these hacks anymore.

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to nordic_prince. | June 13, 2020 at 1:57 pm

    LOL

    Dr. Birx Says Riots Resulted in the Destruction of 70 Covid-19 Testing Sites

    Weazil Zippers

Not a mention of the protests / riots as a possible cause of case counts going up
https://miami.cbslocal.com/2020/06/13/florida-coronavirus-cases-rising-as-state-reopens/

Amazing how far the media can go to protect a narrative

DC has set up testing stations in various fire stations. These days the lines are hours and hours long, sometimes up to 5 hours standing outside in line if you’re willing to wait that long in the heat and humidity. From what I’ve seen anecdotally, at least a few of those people waiting in line went to various protests and are now freaking out they may have caught CD-19, so gotta go get tested.

DDsModernLife | June 13, 2020 at 2:38 pm

The media’s recent highlighting Florida’s “record number of new cases” seems to oddly correspond to the RNC’s decision to move their convention to Jacksonville.

Meanwhile, California has been (and remains) on a constant, upward trend of daily new case, setting a record every few days. Has anyone noticed?

And one last thing: China admits to only 84.7k cases of COVID-19. Based on that, Massachusetts has more cases than China.

First thing – the Tulsa event has been changed to the 20th by Trump.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1271644265014276097

Second, cases are increasing in Oklahoma and Tulsa counties, probably because of the protests. Age wise, the 25-34 group had the largest number of new cases this week, followed by the 15-24 and the 35-44 groups. These are the groups which have fewer hospitalizations and deaths in OK.

But there has been increased testing for health care services. A friend finally got her second cataract taken care of last week, but she had to be tested prior to the surgery.

Lots of work places are doing temp checks so if one person is suspect, they test the workers, close down for a deep cleaning and then retest before opening again. Whirlpool in Tulsa had some positive cases this week, so it is shut down for about a week.

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to Liz. | June 13, 2020 at 4:11 pm

    Donald J. Trump

    We had previously scheduled our #MAGA Rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, for June 19th – a big deal. Unfortunately, however, this would fall on the Juneteenth Holiday. Many of my African American friends and supporters have reached out to suggest that we consider changing the date out…

Our local watering hole just re- opened today

completely remodeled and ready for business

No 50% capacity as our squish GOPe governor “allowed” us children. No masks. I asked the owner about the restriction, his reply was “F*** that!”

Friends having a beer together again almost brought a tear to my eyes, especially when one of my favorite little blond gal pals met me at the door with a big hug. Damn, it felt good to hug a friend again

They won’t get away with trying to inflict this Schitt on us again

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to murkyv. | June 13, 2020 at 4:07 pm

    Studies show that touching such as hugs improves the immune system.

    Shall we drive the Leftists over the Wall with a Hug Campaign

    rabidfox in reply to murkyv. | June 13, 2020 at 8:48 pm

    Fauci is now saying that there may need to be a second lock down. He’ll be surprised and appalled at the reaction if they try that again.

We’re under mandatory mask requirements in my state but not for things like going for a walk. If I’m going to the grocery store, I’ll put on a disposable mask when I enter and take it off as soon as I leave. Those businesses are between a rock and a hard place with our ignorant governor and the mask nazis threatening everyone who fails to comply with enforcing her order. I don’t wear one when pumping gas or walking across a parking lot. And I refuse to wear some stupid, designer, cloth diaper across my face. Those things are unsanitary as hell and I cringe whenever I see someone wearing one.

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to Sanddog. | June 13, 2020 at 4:16 pm

    Maybe we should response to those Karens with:
    “Thank you for your service hiding your ugly face.”

    If they just laugh then we know they are normal.

    If they get mad then we know the Leftists…….

    rabidfox in reply to Sanddog. | June 13, 2020 at 8:49 pm

    I have decided to knit a mask. For those times when they are required. As a protest to the idiocy of the whole thing.

      amwick in reply to rabidfox. | June 14, 2020 at 7:52 am

      Funny, and creative.. but it brings up a good point.. Is there some kind of guideline about what exactly a mask should be?

      Seems like anything goes,,,in places where they are required.

It would be nice to get an accurate account of how many died from the virus, rather than with it. Heard of a guy that went to the hospital with a stroke, got the virus, then dies from the virus. Others say there is undercount. Why not the truth please?

Trust is mostly gone, no matter who is peddling the info. Through it Democrats showed again they don’t care. Public health is more threated by racism than the virus, except when it isn’t.

    “I… believe wearing cloth face coverings helps to slow the spread of COVID-19 in our community and save lives.”

    This is why we can’t get Truth, i.e. fact-based documentation of circumstances and situation. We do, however, get THEIR ‘Truths’ aka the beliefs, feelings, and opinions the immature, inexperienced, & indoctrinated have come to accept that all should live by…

      rabidfox in reply to rocky71. | June 13, 2020 at 8:50 pm

      One of the reasons why trust in the CDC/NIH is at an all time low. Given their track record of being constantly wrong.

I’m beginning to not trust my lying eyes.

The idiocy of the mask requirements became obvious when the ‘experts’ accepted a fucking bandana as a ‘mask’.

I’ve noticed that here in CNY that some stores are now beginning to rigidly enforce mask wearing by customers. I don’t wear them. Tomorrow I turn 65. I’m well into the risk range by age. I’m also relatively healthy and fit and understand the complete lack of evidence that mask wearing by the general public does anything more than restrict your breathing.

Managers aren’t allowed to confront suspected shoplifters in theirs stores, or chase after them when they leave. You know, people braking actual laws. But confronting customers who fail to obey an unconstitutional mask wearing order by Dictator Cuomo? One with no force of law? They’re all over it!

Unless the police are willing to enforce his unconstitutional order by use of deadly force- I’m not putting one on. Scratch that- I’m not putting one. The boogaloo starts right after they shoot someone for not wearing one, whether it be me or someone else.

I have yet to wear or even buy a mask

But, I still can’t get my hair cut yet at GreatClips without one

Kinda look like Dilbert’s boss these days

I tell everyone I’m letting it grow, dying it orange and doing a YUGE combover

I stopped at the local dairy store on the way home from work today, like I often do. There was state police car there. First time since covidiocy started I’ve stopped at a place where they’re getting their midnight coffee or snacks. The places they normally haunt are no longer 24/7; there’s now a limited number of places they can stop. Went in, found what I was looking for, paid for it, and left. The masked troopers didn’t say anything to me or the other 3 unmasked customers during my brief foray. They were waiting for something to be cooked.

I did notice the night worker who is always there had his balaclava pulled up so you could only see his eyes. He’s normally got his nose uncovered. Made me wonder if he’s on a wanted poster somewhere…

I won’t report their failure to enforce the unconstitutional face mask order to Dictator Cuomo.

Wrathchilde | June 14, 2020 at 8:12 am

I work in a UAW factory, and masks are required all day long on the assembly line.

I have told my co-workers that I have a foolproof way to ensure that the mask edict ends quickly.

Take a marker, and on the outside of the mask simply write: TRUMP 2020!

The masks will be verboten within a week.

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