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Michigan AG Wants a ‘Serious Conversation With Ford’ After Trump Removed Mask During Tour

Michigan AG Wants a ‘Serious Conversation With Ford’ After Trump Removed Mask During Tour

Trump: Nessel “should not be taking her anger and stupidity out on Ford Motor – they might get upset with you and leave the state, like so many other companies have…”

https://twitter.com/GOPChairwoman/status/1263581714137223168

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel issued a veiled threat to the Ford Motor Company after it allowed President Donald Trump to remove his mask while touring the facility.

From CNN:

Dana Nessel, a Democrat, told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer on “The Situation Room” Thursday, that she would enforce Democratic Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s executive order that requires anyone who is medically able to wear a facial covering when in an enclosed space. As a result, Nessel had previously threatened legal action against “any company or any facility that allows him inside those facilities and puts our workers at risk.”

“I think that we’re going to have to have a very serious conversation with Ford in the event that they permitted the President to be in publicly enclosed places in violation of the order,” Nessel said after Trump flouted the order during the public portion of the tour. “They knew exactly what the order was and if they permitted anyone, even the President of the United States, to defy that order, I think it has serious health consequences potentially to their workers.”

Trump wore a mask during the tour but removed it in front of the press to not give them the satisfaction of seeing him wear one.

Ford said it shared its safety policies with the White House before Trump’s visit. Trump toured the facility because it repurposed itself “to produce ventilators and personal protective equipment.”

Nessel continued:

“I am ashamed to have him be President of the United States of America,” she said.

“And I hope that the voters of Michigan will remember this when November comes, that he didn’t care enough about their safety, he didn’t care about their welfare, he didn’t respect them enough just to engage in the very simple task, the painless task, the easy task of wearing a mask when he was provided one.”

“And so I hope that we’ll have a new president soon enough who does respect people more than this president does,” she continued.

I hope the Michigan voters remember the tyrants who serve as governor and attorney general!

Trump lashed out at Nessel on Twitter, warning her that it’s not a good idea to threaten a corporation that provides jobs in her state. Trump said it in his usual fashion:

Have you been wearing masks? I do. I’m required to wear a mask when I go to physical therapy. It makes you hot and stuffy. My PT and I often have to remove ours at the end in order to talk about future appointments and what to work on at home.

Maybe, just maybe, Trump knows that it’s hard to wear a mask when addressing a large crowd. I mean, if my PT and I have to remove ours for a small conversation, I imagine it’d be next to impossible in front of a crowd.

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Don’t these SOB/POS have anything better to do – like fix Midland?

From the people who brought you the delicious water in Flint.

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to DuxRedux. | May 22, 2020 at 3:51 pm

    People in Hell want ice water too…..

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to DuxRedux. | May 22, 2020 at 9:18 pm

    Why doesn’t she talk to Joe?

    Joe Announces “I’m Ready to Beat Joe Biden”

    —Ace of Spades

    4fun in reply to DuxRedux. | May 22, 2020 at 10:17 pm

    Does this count towards fixing the damn dams?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/michigan-ag-filed-lawsuit-against-dam-owner-boyce-hydro-this-month/ar-BB14ro86

    MID-MICHIGAN (WJRT) – (05/21/20) – More than two weeks before the Edenville Dam collapse, the Michigan attorney general sued its owner over a dispute about illegally drawing down lake levels.

    JusticeDelivered in reply to DuxRedux. | May 23, 2020 at 8:06 am

    I grew up in Flint, long before it turned into a large ghetto. As I child I lived in two brand new houses in the north end of Flint. Both had lead service lines, and my generation was exposed to far more lead than any of the scheming ghetto dwellers in Flint. We turned out fine, but then we did not start life short changed by genetics and culture.

    Flint collected waters system maintenance fees for 5 decades, and squandered those funds on other things. Their water problems are self inflicted. Today, Flint’s water system is falling apart, constantly springing leaks, allowing bacteria to enter the system. And since it is a deadheaded spoke distribution system, and has no provisions to recirculate water from the far ends of the spokes, it is very difficult to keep disinfectant levels at effective levels.

    In any event, Flint has a long history of shaking down county and more recently state residents to pay their bills. They scream racism (when they are themselves bald faced racists), and our stupid politicians fawn over Flint and Detroit, and continue to flush more public money down their respective cesspools.

texansamurai | May 22, 2020 at 3:11 pm

certainly don’t envy our countrymen in michigan having to deal with such despots

admire their patience and will support them in whatever they deem necessary to reclaim their personal freedoms

    “they [Ford] might get upset with you and leave the state, like so many other companies have [done]”

    The left is so used to biting the hands that fed them. Ford’s an employer of 000s, which produces – get that, lefties, they PRODUCE – things that people what. Ford’s a payer of real estate taxes, state unemployment taxes, state income taxes, various state excise taxes, workers compensation insurance policies, and more.

    And what does the state do – like all governments they TAKE from the productive and give it, first to themselves (when did government ever cinch its belt), and then to their Democrat dependents.

    btw, if you read up a little on this Nessel character you will find one ugly-in-the-heart individual,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_Nessel

    pssst, you might also be interested in knowing that when she took her oath to support the US and Michigan constitutions, she didn’t mean it.

      Wrathchilde in reply to pfg. | May 22, 2020 at 8:15 pm

      Ford also really can’t leave Michigan. At least not quickly, or neatly.
      Ford owns about half of the real estate in Dearborn, it seems. It would be the equivalent of the military leaving Virginia. Not only is so much land involved, the local economies would collapse. Ok, that might not be nearly as visible if they do it now, in the midst of gvt destroying the economy.

2smartforlibs | May 22, 2020 at 3:19 pm

Of all the problems Mi has, I don’t think a mask even rate in the top 100

    I carry one in my pocket as an emergency karen response if a store employee gripes.
    It’s made out of screen door material though. Held in place by rubber bands around the ears. Haven’t worn it yet and probably won’t if asked.
    Traffic today was about what it was normally before the shutdown.
    Holiday weekend and everyone is heading up north to campgrounds and cottages. Next week it’s going to hit the 80’s and if she’d just stand in the road to block Michiganians our problems with her would be over. No one would stop and she’d be flattened.

It looked like he was doing adequate social distancing and he was tested (again) for C19.

    JusticeDelivered in reply to Liz. | May 23, 2020 at 8:37 am

    I am sure that Trump’s security ensures that no one gets too close. All the complaints about Trump’s mask are really just another manifestation of TDS. They have to have something to bellyache about.

Went to Costco last night where masks are required for entry. I’ve tried the N95 types, and the 3-layer one my wife made for me, and within minutes it’s like trying to breathe through a wet bathing-suit. Add to that I’ve had a heart attack and take blood thinners and it’s more of a struggle to keep my blood-oxygen levels up, a mask is detrimental to my health.

So to feign my compliance with their order, I wear the loosest and thinnest mask I could find – one of those paper foldy over-the-ear elastic thingys – with the nose wire barely bent to leave a gap. The checkout clerk said next time to tell the greeter I have a medical condition that precludes wearing a mask – they can not ask what the condition is nor deny me entry. I’ll just have to scowl at all the stink-eyes I’ll probably get.

One funny thing the wife and I have observed when mask-wearing – apparently we rely a LOT on being able to SEE each other when talking – because the mask obscures our mouths and we often yell at each other “what did you say”? Makes us feel like Ma and Pa Kettle whenever we go out with masks on …

I wonder IF Trump wore a mask, if news people would be constantly asking him “would you repeat that?” He could certainly have some fun with them by mumbling … 😉

    tlcomm2 in reply to MrE. | May 22, 2020 at 3:51 pm

    Costco’s corporate policy says you do not have to wear a mask if you have a medical reason not to. Hard to breathe for a low blood ox level patient is a pretty darned good reason.

    Albigensian in reply to MrE. | May 22, 2020 at 6:22 pm

    The cheap, cloth masks that are widely available are not too uncomfortable in the short term (except for some nasal stuffiness) but if you must wear one all day, and especially if you wear eyeglasses, they can make one’s ears pretty sore.

    Although there are workarounds, such as attaching a ribbon or something to hold the mask on with the back of one’s head instead of one’s ears- as one sees many nurses and other medical people doing.

    As for the N95 type, these become uncomfortable almost immediately. Then they get more uncomfortable.

      starride in reply to Albigensian. | May 22, 2020 at 9:00 pm

      Those cheap cloth masks are no more effective for filtering Covid-19, than your underwear are at filtering a fart.

        OH Deplorable in reply to starride. | May 22, 2020 at 10:13 pm

        These masks will only filter bacteria, maybe. They do not filter out something as small as a virus. This is nothing but a knee jerk liberal reaction, like everything else they concoct. It’s based in fraudulent information and serves no real purpose, except to give the façade that they have everything under control.

        notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to starride. | May 22, 2020 at 10:43 pm

        That must be why everyone starting to call them face diapers.

    Wrathchilde in reply to MrE. | May 22, 2020 at 8:19 pm

    I work in one of the Ford facilities, and have to wear a mask all day. In a factory environment, wearing earplugs, it is already difficult to communicate due to environmental noise levels.
    Now with these masks, all of us are suffering acute laryngitis from screaming through the masks all day (10h workdays at my facility). Just another benefit of my membership, it seems.

      I can’t imagine many politicians and rule-makers know what it’s like on a factory floor. Though I worked out of an office, my job routinely took me out on the factory floor at Boeing. Remembering back to the old hammer shops where airplane skins made of alloy were formed by hammer-like presses, all the while air-powered tools were squealing – it can be deafening. I can’t imagine having to shout over machine noise through a mask with cans over your ears or plugs … wonder where OSHA is on some of this crap?

smalltownoklahoman | May 22, 2020 at 3:32 pm

Question: If Trump does not have the virus (and to the best of my knowledge he does not) then where is the harm in him taking off a mask to speak? Particularly where is the harm in him speaking to a crowd if he was addressing them from a platform that was more than the 6ft minimum safety distance for proper social distancing?

    The problem to the dems is that he hasn’t been muzzled.

      smalltownoklahoman in reply to rabidfox. | May 22, 2020 at 3:43 pm

      Heh, true!

      Of course it’s more like EEllis said below, form over function. That and Trump not wearing a mask is more of him refusing to play by their rules which just drives them up the wall more.

    Geologist in reply to smalltownoklahoman. | May 22, 2020 at 3:57 pm

    As you suggest, the mask is not to protect the wearer of the mask, but others who might be contaminated if the wearer of the mask has the Wuhan virus. The mask does not filter out the Wuhan virus, but slows the velocity with which the virus is expelled by the mask wearer, cutting down the distance that the Wuhan virus can travel in the air currents.

    If the President tests negative for the virus, then his wearing the mask is purely symbolic and has no health effect. Everyone involved knows this, and those who are condemning the President are just posturing and playing games.

    I wear a mask in public because I have seasonal allergies and the ignorant masses who see me sneeze or who see my running eyes will freak out if I am not wearing the useless mask. Because I have not “sheltered in place”, wearing the mask is my major concession to the crazies and tyrants.

    Trump has the power to make these tyrants crazy! Go for it!!

    None. In cases like his the mask’s only function is to “show you care”. Like he needs to do that.

    Wrathchilde in reply to smalltownoklahoman. | May 22, 2020 at 8:21 pm

    The harm is that he becomes an example for all of us that hold beliefs different than *OBEY*.

    buckeyeminuteman in reply to smalltownoklahoman. | May 22, 2020 at 11:35 pm

    The mask is a symbol of submission. Submission to fear and submission to our government minders. It’s no different than a hijab or burka.

    It’s the left wing “failure to obey syndrome”. They become irrationally livid at anyone who refuses to mindlessly obey the latest stupid dictates from their beloved left wing governors. They view non compliance as a personal attack upon them.

It really bugs the he’ll out of me that so many people get so worked up over rules ignoring what they are ment to achieve. Trump is not going to get anyone at the plant sick. There is no real significant threat there. Form over function, playacting over reality. And of course orange man bad.

So the Agitator General wants a talk with Ford, eh? Dem militancy is beginning to really show. Waiting for the Fort Sumter moment. Obviously, unfinished business from 100 years ago. I’d use the term “Copperheads” but they’d confuse that with “copper tops” from “The Matrix”.

    Geologist in reply to alaskabob. | May 22, 2020 at 4:07 pm

    Alaska, I am probably a Copperhead. I am a Yankee who fully supported the New England succession movement (not at the time, but when studying it MANY years after the fact in school), and felt that the sovereign states each had the right to withdraw from the Union at the Hartford Convention of 1814.

    Consistent with this, I supported the right of the Southern States (and each of them) (again, long after the fact) to succeed from the Union at the time of the War of Northern Aggression. Call me a Copperhead!

    And I fully support California’s right to succeed. Please!!!

    [Isn’t a “Coppertop” a battery? Too much Matrix insider stuff on this blog recently, something about Red and Blue pills the other day. In the immortal words of Sgt. Schultz, “I know nothing.” That is more my era.]

      The Friendly Grizzly in reply to Geologist. | May 22, 2020 at 4:41 pm

      Succeed? Or secede?

      alaskabob in reply to Geologist. | May 22, 2020 at 4:44 pm

      If the South had taken Thomas Jackson’s recommendations then the South would have gained support YUGELY from the Copperhead supporters, if it even got that far… Jackson wanted the slaves freed which would have taken a major issue out of the war although the “states’ rights” issue would play on. Secondly, if war was declared Thomas’s “black flag” approach to combat (no surviving prisoners from battle) would have really notched things up.

      The War of 1812 was an interesting issue particularly with the merchant classes in New England. Considering the issue of slavery dwarfs economic issues … early saber rattling for succesion was obvious in US history.

      Having lived in northeastern PA, with obligate Civil War memorial in rge town square and in North Carolina with the greatest combat loses in the war…. interesting points of view historically. The British ended slavery by purchasing the slaves. Imagine if that had been offered in 1860. A “prime field hand” in 1860 cost $1000 in that time period’s money or $33,000 today. It took over a century for England to pay off the loan but imagine what savings this could have banked socially and politically.

      Brave Sir Robbin in reply to Geologist. | May 22, 2020 at 7:12 pm

      If at first you do not secede, try, try again.

Talk about drunk with power. Who does she think she is, Queen Borg?

    alaskabob in reply to JHogan. | May 22, 2020 at 4:53 pm

    Well… against Trump “The Resistance” is futile (British pronunciation please). But the Left doesn’t learn.

I refuse to wear the stupid masks. For the vast majority of the public, they serve no legitimate purpose, and for many people they cause more problems than they solve. The published studies have said that close, sustained contact with an infected person is how the virus is typically transmitted. Brief, casual contact rarely does it, and touching a contaminated surface rarely does it. And yet, there are still people wearing masks while in their cars by themselves, or wearing gloves everywhere, and there are still government orders that surfaces in businesses be wiped down with bleach every half hour. It’s just nonsense, and the sooner people realize that, the better off we’ll be.

    Geologist in reply to Observer. | May 22, 2020 at 4:19 pm

    Even if these precautions were not nonsense but were legitimate medical recommendations, I deny the petty tyrants’ authority to ORDER these precautions. I have always been obsessive about washing my hands frequently and thoroughly, but that is a personal idiosyncrasy. The damn guvment has no legal right to order it.

    And now, the CDC kind of admits that it panicked the subjects over nothing, that surface contact is not a major method of transmission of the Wuhan virus!

    Observer, I suspect that you are correct that it takes prolonged personal contract. And masks don’t do a damn thing except make people think they are protected.

    The real purpose of this entire pandemic and the response to it is to condition the sheeple into blind obedience and to giving up what used to be called civil rights. We the Sheeple have just let the guvmint take away so many of our rights — the right to peacefully assemble, the right to worship, the right to travel, the right to due process — I can be imprisoned and my business taken away by the damn governor’s damn edict! I better cut the rant off.

    rocky71 in reply to Observer. | May 22, 2020 at 5:51 pm

    Apologies for the fat fingered down vote- intended a big thumb’s up! ?

johnny dollar | May 22, 2020 at 4:10 pm

He should have worn a mask that said “MAGA 2020”.

    Wrathchilde in reply to johnny dollar. | May 22, 2020 at 8:39 pm

    I’ve told people in my plant that the fastest way to get the mask edict removed is to write Trump 2020 on them all.

    The UAW will have that rule lifted post-haste!

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | May 22, 2020 at 4:11 pm

Interesting reading on the masking of our freedoms.

“Beshear gave to their phased (and painfully slow) approach to reopening the state’s businesses. Throughout all this, masks have been mandated to be worn in all public places, indefinitely, as part of the “new normal” in Kentucky. Folks at the state capitol must have thought that government overreach would be more palatable if it came with a jingle. If it worked for the Bolsheviks, it would probably also work for the Bluegrass.

They weren’t wrong. Many folks in Kentucky have eaten this up. Some have even taken to promoting their own state-worshipping slogans, as evidenced by apparel with a “Govern me, Daddy” logo. …..”

https://spectator.org/were-all-in-this-together-not/

It seems that an inordinate number of the wanna be tyrants are female.

The President defies the Dyke Princess of Michigan. Wretched Gretchen, Wicked Witch of the North will have Dana’s back.

When I go out I carry a mask with me; if the street is crowded I wear it, otherwise I don’t, and when I pass someone I just look away from them. I put it on before entering stores, or before boarding a bus.

My synagogue sort-of reopened and requires masks, so I wore one there, but this morning we didn’t get the ten men required for group prayer so I took a bus to a different one with more people. They were ignoring the governor’s 10-person limit, just keeping it down to about 1/3 capacity, with at least 6 feet between people. There’s a sign saying that masks are required, but nobody was wearing one so I felt silly in mine and took it off. After all, I know I tested negative for the virus and positive for antibodies, so I’m unlikely to be infectious, and if the people around me are not worried why should I worry on their behalf?

What the hell are “publicly enclosed places” & since when is a corporation such as Ford Motor public anyway??

    Wrathchilde in reply to rocky71. | May 22, 2020 at 8:42 pm

    The give tours of some of the final assembly plants, so in the left’s infinitesimal minds, if you let the public in, you’re a public accommodation.

    It makes sense to them, I guess.

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | May 22, 2020 at 5:50 pm

Michigan Judge Rebukes Transexual Governor “Gretchen” Whitmer and “Her” Fascist AG, Telling Them the Barber Has the Right to Remain Open

—Ace of Spades

Trump threatened Ford if they moved out of the USA, however there are many other states that would welcome Ford (and GM and Chrysler), so they do the Tesla Texas boot scoot boogie.

I left MI 6 years ago and watching it, I don’t regret it. I’m in Wyoming which only had a mild shut down, next to SoDak which was “use your own common sense”.

Of course Florida’s DeSantis can also say they are open for business.

It isn’t just a facepalm, Cuomo, and the other governors (NJ, MN, PA) forcing nursing homes to bring the plague in to kill lots of people are murderers, but then again the left wears Che Guavera shirts.

It used to be just Abortion. But now the death states and life states have taken on a more serious meaning.

    ronk in reply to tz. | May 23, 2020 at 6:51 am

    just remember those states with CA, and IL were in the worst shape before all this started show how well they were managed

By the way, many (most?) synagogues seem to have decided on a policy of waiting 14 days after any relaxation of the regulations, to see whether there’s a spike in new infections, before opening. Basically, let other people be the guinea pigs.

Anacleto Mitraglia | May 22, 2020 at 5:57 pm

Another one who wants to talk to the manager…

Nice company you got there, it’d be a shame if anything bad should happen to it.

I saw some D congress critter on Fox. I think it was Sheila Jackson Lee from Tx. It was obvious that she was in her house with no one around and she was wearing a mask.

Of course, she took it off to speak, but she made a big deal about wearing one…

    puhiawa in reply to Liz. | May 23, 2020 at 2:34 am

    She is the imbecile that wears it with her nose out. Not as protest, but because she is too stupid to know better.

LibraryGryffon | May 22, 2020 at 6:50 pm

The base exchange requires a mask. Period. No medical exceptions. I’ll have to send an email to my congresscritters, Joe Courtney, Dick Blumenthal (spit), and Chris Murphy asking if they can see why the base can ignore not just CDC recommendations, but also ADA regulations.

I wore a mask for the second time this year, mostly over my chin and lower lip. Even so, within 20 minutes my asthma had kicked in quite nicely thank you. I hate to think how bad it would have been if I’d had it over my nose too.

I wouldn’t have minded quite as much if they’d had a laptop I liked. I need a new one for grad school starting July, and almost everything everywhere between a netbook with a tiny screen and a $1500+ gaming rig is “sold out, don’t know when we’ll get anymore in stock”. My poor 7 year old Asus is starting to creak rather badly. /sigh.

    Brave Sir Robbin in reply to LibraryGryffon. | May 22, 2020 at 7:10 pm

    Send a letter to the base commander and threaten a legal action under the American with Disabilities act. Better yet, if you have means, have your lawyer send it. If you do not have means, find a class action shyster.

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to LibraryGryffon. | May 22, 2020 at 10:52 pm

    I’ve always had great luck buying laptops online, for the last 20 years or so. Now I don’t need anything sophisticated so these I can get online are adequate.

BierceAmbrose | May 22, 2020 at 8:11 pm

They’re yelling because he won’t give them the Trump In A Mask shot for their memes n attack ads.

    Humorously someone did get a picture of PDJT wearing a mask during his tour. But it wasn’t a close up so the press still keeps lying like typical democrats.

texansamurai | May 22, 2020 at 9:57 pm

“I think that we’re going to have to have a very serious conversation with Ford in the event that they permitted the President to be in publicly enclosed places in violation of the order,” Nessel said
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what an ignorant ass–she has no idea who she’s dealing with if she thinks she’s got any stroke with the blue oval–they’ve been in business for over a century in the US–prospered through two world wars, the great depression, several presidents, senators, governors–the only one of the big three who did not accept any bail-out $$$–a dow component, an nyse blue-chip–they might well be polite about it but am willing to bet she’ll receive a well-deserved ” fvck off “

An army of sick women infests our government. barack obama among them.

Is she a real attorney, or one of these ‘Holder’ morons that are in office to satisfy the quota for special needs attorneys?

The Michigan AG might want to look into the nursing homes forced to take Covid patients, ending up killing thousands of other senior residents at the nursing centers. Way more important than a mask, for God’s sake!

The Michigan AG is a Karen.

I had to wear a mask for a meet and greet with a new doctor.
For this I had a pink cowboy bandana, but I left the 10 gallon hat at home.

We will not set foot in Cosco.

Sure thing, Karen. Whatever.

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | May 23, 2020 at 12:22 pm

Gallup: Trump Approval Rating Higher Than Four of the Last Six Presidents, Including Bush and Obama

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=387334

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