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Democrats will rue the day they forced this impeachment through the House

Democrats will rue the day they forced this impeachment through the House

Note the disconnect between Democrat triumphalism in D.C., and a packed 10,000-seat arena in a key battleground state.

Despite the Democrat-Media-NeverTrump vapors of how historic tonight’s vote to impeach Trump is, it’s being met mostly with a shrug of the shoulders by a nation that has heard Democrats demand impeachment since before Trump took office, and every day since then.

Tonight is the real start of the 2020 campaign.

I’m trying to view this from a distance, not get caught up in the minutiae.

I watched the vote on the TV, and Trump’s rally in Battle Creek, Michigan, on the computer. Not exactly a split screen, but a single image of the disconnect between Democrat triumphalism in D.C., and a packed 10,000-seat arena in a key battleground state.

Trump seems energized, and as do his supporters I encounter.

I think Democrats will rue the day they forced this impeachment through the House.


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In cajun speak, rue is flour fried in oil….lets fry the donks in oil….

What happens if the House doesn’t submit the Articles of Impeachment until after the 2020 election? What happens if the House continues its media ‘bombshell’ inquisitions every month for the next 12 months with hearings here and hearings there, hearings hearings everywhere?

How long will the population support an impeached President?

    healthguyfsu in reply to stablesort. | December 18, 2019 at 9:50 pm

    The population still supports an impeached POTUS (Clinton). At least, one side does.

    Just spitballing here, but I’m gonna go with about 5 years.

    TX-rifraph in reply to stablesort. | December 18, 2019 at 10:02 pm

    “How long will the population support an impeached President?”

    How long will the voters allow the Democrat Party attack on the voters?

      stablesort in reply to TX-rifraph. | December 18, 2019 at 10:12 pm

      The voters have to wait for the election. My point is that Pelosi is willing to take down the government.

        notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to stablesort. | December 18, 2019 at 10:34 pm

        Madame Jezebel is already taken down and the hungry dogs are licking their chops.

        “…they found no more of her than the skull and the feet and the palms of her hands. 36 Therefore they came back and told him. And he said, “This is the word of the Lord, which He spoke by His servant Elijah the Tishbite, saying, ‘On the plot of ground at Jezreel dogs shall eat the flesh of Jezebel…”

        2 Kings 9:30-37

        clintack in reply to stablesort. | December 19, 2019 at 8:13 am

        Pelosi willing to take down the government? Hardly.

        Remember that the same week they impeached the President they also passed a spending bill and agreed to take up the USMCA.

        This is all theatrics.

        MattMusson in reply to stablesort. | December 19, 2019 at 11:14 am

        Yesterday, I was seeing posters on fairly mainstream websites talking about buying guns and converting semi to full automatic.

        This is the Democrats’ fault.

    Answer to 1st Questions:
    Everyone will be unable to hide from the fact that ‘Partisan Witch Hunt’ was the correct appellation for it

    Answer to 2nd Question:
    Everyone gets sick and tired of the grandstanding. Trump wins with an Republican voter turnout that just might set a record. The Senate remains majority Republican & doesn’t do a damned thing with the impeachment until the 117th Congress comes into office, then the impeachment expires and House (if still in Democrat control) has to do the whole thing over again. If not,

    Answer to 3rd Question:
    Long enough to re-elect him.

    Any delay submitting the impeachment resolution to the Senate just be more confirmation that it’s nothing but partisan politics of personal hatred because Hillary!™ didn’t win.

    oldgoat36 in reply to stablesort. | December 18, 2019 at 10:25 pm

    I see the point you are trying to make here.
    The left are following the Lawfare strategy of delay, obfuscate, continual actions designed to add to the charges without allowing the Senate trial to happen, thus preventing an official response and acquittal.
    I think many people already have impeachment fatigue as it has been talked about by the propaganda wing since election day. So less attention will be paid by the low info voters.
    I doubt this will work to the National Socialist’s favor, as the Republicans are united like I don’t think I’ve ever seen before. The Senate has some rats who I don’t trust, which this part of the kangaroo court show is probably aimed at.
    Republicans are angry. This is the actions to work on the swing voters.
    I wonder if we will hear more words of “wisdom” from RBG supporting this further sham against our duly elected President.

    Ghostrider in reply to stablesort. | December 18, 2019 at 10:56 pm

    Let me help you with your concern: simple. If you don’t transmit, we must acquit. Got it?

      OneVoiceInAmerica in reply to Ghostrider. | December 18, 2019 at 11:52 pm

      Yes! That’s simple enough for me!
      So.. It’s much like a prosecutor not filing the charges that have been drafted?

      clintack in reply to Ghostrider. | December 19, 2019 at 8:16 am

      Yep. Set a trial date. Open the hearing with all solemnity and ceremony. Call for the Prosecution (the House Managers) to present their case. Stare at the empty table for five minutes, then declare a mistrial or a dismissal-with-prejudice or whatever they choose to call it.

    There are a number of things that could happen in that scenario, and none of them are good for the Democrats:

    1. Already the Democrats’ poll numbers are falling and Trump’s are rising. This is a direct result of the Democrats’ impeachment fiasco. More hair-on-fire charges from Democrats won’t accomplish what 3+ years have already failed to do.

    2. The “Do Nothing Democrats” label is sticking more and more the longer this goes on. A few in the MSM have half-heartedly tried change the subject by attempting jump start the Worst Economy Since The Great Depression shtick, but 24/7 impeachment hearings for the next 11 months will step on those efforts.

    3. Tomorrow there will be millions of genocidal Democrats who will realize that impeachment =/= removal. They will think Democrats are not serious about removing Trump and will finish them accordingly. More hearing will not pacify them.

    4. Also, endless impeachment hearings for the next 11 months will keep Trump’s base fired up. More pointless hearing would amount to a generous GOTV campaign contribution to Trump from Democrats.

    5. Finally, if the public gets even the HINT that Democrats plan to impeach Trump AFTER he is re-elected in 2020 (which I think is now likely), then Democrats will probably suffer blowout losses in 2020.

    There was speculation this morning (and all day I’m sure) that the Socialist-Democrats in the House will hold the two Articles of Impeachment instead of sending them to the Senate for Trial. the alleged logic is this petty move would deprive the President of being able to say he was exonerated by a Not Guilty verdict in the Senate. Or, alternatively russia, Russia, RUSSIA!

    How long will the citizens support a President whom the Socialist-Democrats have passed Articles of Impeachment and then refused to send same to the Senate? Until 20 January 2025 is as close to a sure bet as anything in the world today.

    does it matter if they don’t? the impeachment vote was taken and recorded the senate can still take them up, you say that’s not in the rules, the constitutions says the house impeaches, and the senate tries, the first part has been completed all the senate has to do is the trial, if it so chooses. the senate can follow the rules set by the house, the minority has no say in the trial.

    Milhouse in reply to stablesort. | December 19, 2019 at 12:55 am

    The longer they drag it out the more ridiculous they’ll seem, and the fewer people they’ll impress and the more his popular support will grow.

    Impeached under these circumstances? ’til pigs fly!

    It is not required that the House submit the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate for the Senate to act. The House doesn’t control the Senate.

    the SCOTUS will be obligated to make a due process ruling if the articles aren’t submitted promptly.

      Edward in reply to Sian. | December 19, 2019 at 5:11 pm

      Not really necessary. The House has passed the two Articles of Impeachment and there is no adding to them now. The Senate could take up the Articles and McConnell could entertain a motion for a Directed Verdict of Not Guilty by virtue of an utter lack of evidence or even any allegation of an actual statutory criminal act. 51 Republican votes and it’s over and done with and President Donald J. Trump has been found Not Guilty and exonerated by the directed verdict.

    livfreeordi in reply to stablesort. | December 19, 2019 at 1:09 pm

    That might make the extreme left wing base of the Democrat Party happy but do you seriously think the country as a whole won’t patience with those kind of obvious games?

    The Democrats might as well cut their collective throats with a straight razor.

    That would be insane…but then the Democrats have already gone down that path…haven’t they?

It’s a mark of honor for PDJT.

It occurs to me that all these Democrats will have campaign rallies in their home districts. Hope they are very well attended.

    ”Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up,”

    “And if you see anybody from the democrat caucus in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd.”

    “And you push back on them,”

    “And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.”

This is an attack on the voters and the Constitution. It is an attack on the 2016 election. It is an attack on me. Damn the Democrat Party — the Party of the Klan, corruption, and lies.

I receive the Texas Democrat newsletter. It is a sickening sack of lies written at a 3rd grade level. They really are the enemy of this great country.

Americans cannot defeat an asymmetric attack on their political system by responding in an expected way.

Pelosi is playing an additional game, possibly the brainchild idea of Tribe. She isn’t sending the articles over to the Senate right away. Claiming the need to insure a “fair trial”, no impeachment managers were voted on for the House, which is another portion which needs to happen.
Just like the vote for “impeachment inquiry” was meant to be something different from how this was conducted in the past.
I will never respect a single Democrat regardless of how left they lean.
Expect massive fraud to be done in this next election.
I don’t think our country will recover from this travesty. It will never be the same.

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to oldgoat36. | December 18, 2019 at 10:41 pm

    Cunning Lawfare Maneuver – House Will Withhold Submission of Articles from Senate…

    More reading on that at….

      notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital. | December 18, 2019 at 10:45 pm

      Great reading some of the comments there also for insight to what U.S. Deplorables are thinking.

      Anyone else getting sick of this s**t?
      Any way we can make a dent?

      Donate to the Trump campaign right now. We can all make a big A$$ dent for sure.

      I think Old Nancy has a flaming bag of s**t in her hands and isn’t quite sure what the heck to do with it.

      Haha! I think that pretty much sums it up. ? People tend to think the Dems have a plan. I think they’re just winging it. Badly.

      “Okay, sure, got it … Lawfare™ Is King.” Who cares, after all, what the United States Constitution says – or has ever said, for more than two hundred years? Who cares what it means to more than 350 million(!) people, whose sovereign prerogatives are, we are now told, subordinate to the “novel interpretations” of, apparently, about sixteen lawyers?

      Pardon me, but we have a nation to run here. Perhaps “the most important concern, to you,” is the hog-tying of the entire government in your reckless pursuit of whatever-it-is. But I do believe that you are outnumbered. Have a nice day.

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      So basically this is one of those too-clever-by-half maneuvers that left-wing lawyers seem to be fond of: “No, technically, we HAVEN’T impeached him yet, Your Honor. We need the Mueller grand-jury testimony and all of Trump’s tax returns before we can finish our investigation.” The Democrats are just yanking our chain now.

      The country’s already sick and tired of this impeachment circus and more and more inclined to see Trump as the “witch at the Salem trial” and not as the Hunter-Biden-wannabe that Adam Schiff and others want us to see. Do the Democrats really want to test people’s fraying patience further with this kind of lawyerly double-dealing? Or are they so isolated in their echo-chamber bubbles that they think people outside the Beltway aren’t going to care about it?

        notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to Aitch748. | December 19, 2019 at 3:36 pm

        Yes, they are “so isolated in their echo-chamber bubbles that they think people outside the Beltway aren’t going to care about it……”

      I don’t see how delay could possibly help Democrats. As far as I know there is nothing preventing the Senate from acting on the articles of impeachment, transmission or no transmission, managers or no managers.

      If I were McConnell I would announce a date for the start of hearing. I would pick March 1 to cause maximum disruption to the campaigns of the Democrat Senators who are running for President. If no one showed up I would put lifesize cardboard cutouts of Pelosi, Schiff and Nadler on the floor of the Senate and say, “Since the House leadership lacked the competence or the courage (or both) to show up and do their duty, we are moving ahead. Here are those who put the country through hell to satisfy their lust for power. Let them conduct the defense of their case. I suspect they will do a better, more ethical job than the live versions. Now let’s vote and end this charade for the good of the nation.”

Besides Lincoln, has any other president had such animus , hatred and diatribe piled on him? Is there any other president other than Lincoln with the ability to take on this firestorm and beat it?

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to alaskabob. | December 18, 2019 at 10:46 pm

    Don’t think so.

    Milhouse in reply to alaskabob. | December 19, 2019 at 1:23 am

    Difficult to measure, but I’d say yes, starting from the hatred we directed at 0bama, the hatred they had for Bushitler, and going backwards. I don’t recall Clinton being hated so much as despised; hatred was even then reserved for Lady Macbeth. Bush Sr was hated, by people on both sides, but not so much. Reagan was definitely hated, and Nixon, OMG Nixon, the way they hated him is not less than how they hate Trump now. (They started planning his impeachment as soon as he was elected, too.) Going back to before my time, Republicans hated FDR so much they wouldn’t even say his name, they’d just call him “That Man”. And the hatred for Jefferson was pretty spectacular.

    The hatred has been there; the insanity of how it’s expressed is merely a symptom of this insane era.

      alaskabob in reply to Milhouse. | December 19, 2019 at 1:57 am

      Most of those actually did something to evoke dislike after they got in office. I gauge this on the actions taken. Sure, a lot of words but this time it is actionable.

      Barry in reply to Milhouse. | December 19, 2019 at 7:32 pm

      Only a true neverTrumper could pretend that Trump has not received more hatred and directed action than any president in history, especially considering he is innocent of an wrongdoing.

      Was Reagan subjected to a Russia hoax and special counsel investigation of such?

      Was he impeached?

      Any other president you know of that meets those criteria?

      No, didn’t think so. Your opinion is baseless.

    tom_swift in reply to alaskabob. | December 19, 2019 at 4:04 am

    I think my vote goes to ca. 1800, with Jefferson vs. Adams, Jefferson vs. Burr, Jefferson vs. Hamilton, and Hamilton vs. Burr. The most ridiculous hatreds all around. Good times (except for that part where somebody got shot).

Should the democrat’s work product they passed today be forwarded to the Senate, the Senate should figuratively ball it up into a wad, aim carefully, and hit nancy pelosi right between the eyes with it. These are NOT Articles of Impeachment. And without Articles of Impeachment, President Donald J. Trump is NOT impeached. Just because the democrats dress up their donkey like a duck, make it walk like a duck and quack like a duck, it is in fact still an a$$. Too many people are buying into the narrative the democrats and their msm propaganda arm are trying to sell. I suspect the democrats realize the Senate is going to hit nancy between her eyes with this garbage, so sitting on them is likely their next strategy.

    Is he not impeached until the articles are delivered?

    Indicted is indicted irregardless of a trial, right?


      CKYoung in reply to Y2K. | December 19, 2019 at 1:15 am

      I would say if congresses passed an Article or Articles of Impeachment for Treason, Bribery or other High Crimes or Misdemeanors, and sent those Articles to the Senate for trial, PDJT would be impeached per Section 2 Article 4. Or if either of their articles contained actual evidence of Treason, Bribery, High Crimes or Misdemeanors (they do not), and they sent them over then PDJT would be considered Impeached. Sending over non-crime articles and calling it impeachment is political theater. It’s a farce that should not be dignified with language found in our Constitution.

        I get and appreciate the sentiment but I don’t know if that is how it actually works.

        We will see.

        Milhouse in reply to CKYoung. | December 19, 2019 at 1:37 am

        The definition of “high crimes and misdemeanors” is not justiciable. As Gerald Ford said, it’s whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history. The senate may acquit because it disagrees with the house’s definition.

          CKYoung in reply to Milhouse. | December 19, 2019 at 2:31 am

          Let’s just make up words and definitions to replace what the Founding Fathers established and left libraries full of intent and meaning on? This is how we end up with people claiming the 2A means we can only carry muskets, and then only if we are in the National Guard. And why the 9th circuit gets overturned at such a high rate. High Crimes has a meaning, as does Misdemeanor. Being a clown in congress doesn’t mean you get to say a square is a circle and a circle is a square.

      Colonel Travis in reply to Y2K. | December 19, 2019 at 1:44 am

      No. If the House votes to impeach, the person is, officially, impeached. This is the only time the Constitution spells out rules for the House: “The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.”

      That’s it. No “delivery”, no “managers”, no nothing.

      The very first impeachment happened 10 years after the Constitution came into existence. You would think those members of Congress would have a grasp on what to do, being so close to the time and people who created the document, some of whom were in that session of Congress. In reality, they didn’t know how to proceed. They had to make it up as they went along (following English law). Why? Because the Constitution didn’t spell out all the rules. The House voted to impeach Blount in July 1797. Guess when they voted on the actual articles of impeachment? January 1798! His trial didn’t begin until December 1798 and by that time the Senate had expelled him but they kept going.

      The current House threw out precedent with this impeachment. Why? Again, because the Constitution is unclear. Trump has been impeached. There are no technicalities tied to it.

      Barry Soetoro in reply to Y2K. | December 19, 2019 at 5:04 am

      Trump is now impeached, but, like with an indictment, no trial can be held until the prosecutor files charges or a complaint with the court. The prosecutor here is the to-be-named House trial managers and the court is the Senate with the Chief Justice presiding.

      If the House waits too long to refer their impeachment to the Senate Trump may be able to argue the House is estopped from doing so on the basis of unreasonable delay. I think such argument might be limited to civil procedings, but with no crime specified in the Articles is this not a civil rather than criminal impeachment?

      If the articles are referred to the Senate, would it not be appropriate for the Senate to hold a preliminary hearing to determine whether probable cause existed to investigate Trump at all?

        Tom Servo in reply to Barry Soetoro. | December 19, 2019 at 10:20 am

        You are wrong on at least two counts. First, this is not a “normal” trial, so ordinary civil rules do not apply. The Senate sets its own rules, the House cannot dictate what those will be, and “transmission” is not found in the Constitution, so that is a made-up issue of no importance.

        Second, even if this WERE an ordinary criminal prosecution with an indictment issued, but the Prosecutor quit and no one was named to take his place; in that instance, the case is immediately dismissed by the Court for lack of evidence and lack of prosecution. And Double Jeopardy applies. (this has in fact happened many times) So if the House refuses to name prosecutors, the Senate may hear the case and immediately dismiss it.

          Barry Soetoro in reply to Tom Servo. | December 20, 2019 at 11:30 am

          Under current Senate rules a trial is to be initiated only after the House names its case managers (e.g., prosecutors). The Senate may, of course, change these rules by majority vote at any time.

          If this goes to trial I’d like to see the Senate hold a preliminary hearing to determine whether the Intel Committee investigation was supported by probable cause (it was not), whether the impeachment articles are supported by evidence (they are not), then void the articles as unconstitutional, something as triers of fact they should be able to do. However, it sounds like Trump wants his day in court; I don’t blame him, as he’ll get a much greater audience than Schiff and Nadler got, and he’ll crucify the Democrats.

    Milhouse in reply to CKYoung. | December 19, 2019 at 1:27 am

    They are Articles of Impeachment. They’re a sorry example of such, but they are nevertheless what they are. There’s no special formula they have to follow. But yes, the senate should treat them with the contempt they deserve.

    And yes, he is impeached. Much joy may they have of it, especially next November when they contemplate the landslide they gave him.

      CKYoung in reply to Milhouse. | December 19, 2019 at 2:36 am

      I guess they could have sent an article “Orange Kan Bad.” Or “He’s a Cheeto.”

      The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

      I dunno. I don’t see it in there.

I have several thoughts about the threatened withholding of articles of impeachment.

The first one is, is there a sell by date? How long can they languish undelivered?

The second one is, I think that SCOTUS will try very hard not to geet involved, but there are people who will try to derag things in there and they may well succeed. RGB has the teeniest tiniest shred of integrity. So I wonder how she will vote.

The third is, telling the Senate what to do is the worst thing the House can do. With the possible exception of Romney I don’t think any GOP Senator will tolerate that and even some Democrat Senators.

    Milhouse in reply to RodFC. | December 19, 2019 at 1:29 am

    The sell-by date is January 3, 2021.

    oldgoat36 in reply to RodFC. | December 19, 2019 at 7:09 am

    Given the comments against Trump that RBG has made, unlike the others on the court, if (a very big if) she had integrity she would recuse herself from any decisions to be made in regard to this Schiff Sham.
    She won’t recuse herself though, she doesn’t really abide by the Constitution. Nor decency.

      navyvet in reply to oldgoat36. | December 19, 2019 at 9:17 am

      Perhaps Father Time will have a say in her recusal.

      She’s a stickler for propriety though. Look at her comments during the Kavanaugh hearing.

      She knows what she should do, the question is will her partisanship find a rationalization that will override her common sense.

People are already turning against the Democrats for this sham of a process.

I’m guessing that many more will as well after seeing them put the country through this with a case that is so weak that they won’t bring it to trial even after getting an indictment.

AND, Trump always counter-puncher much harder than he is attacked.

It’s his turn.

    Exiliado in reply to Y2K. | December 19, 2019 at 7:06 am

    “It’s his turn”
    I hope so.
    And I hope he punches back hard enough to knock out the entire cabal of traitors now trying hide their corruption, their contempt for the Constitution and their hate for the American voters who disagree with them behind this sham of an impeachment.
    I hope there’s a thorough investigation of the Bidens and their corrupt practices, of Pelosi’s son’s participation in the same, as well as John Kerry’s stepson.
    I hope there’s an investigation of the China deal with Hunter Biden.
    I hope there’s charges filed against Hitlary Clinton for her glaringly, obviously illegal dealings.
    I hope there’s charges filed against James Comey and the rest of the corruptocrats in the FBI who participated in the coup.
    I hope the corruption investigations are extended to include Pelosi and Schiff, and the leak-blower. They are obviously hiding something themselves.
    I hope Trump punches back hard and mercilessly, because what Democrats have done is disgusting and traitorous. I knew they were going to impeach, but knowing it was going to happen does not diminish the outrage about it. I am not a Republican, but I will see hell freeze before I vote for a Democrat after this.

OneVoiceInAmerica | December 19, 2019 at 12:01 am

I can’t believe I watched that whole thing, and I’m still not really sure President Trump is technically impeached-impeached!

I feel one of those Scarlett O’Hara moments coming on… Fiddle dee dee I’ll worry about it tomorrow! I just can’t worry about that today, I’ll go crazy if I do! Nitol!

Thanks to LI for being my sanity touchstone!

someone will correct me if i am wrong, but i do believe these “articles of impeachment” die with this Congress, so, once is sworn in again, it’s Groundhog Day, only, hopefully, the Demonrats will lose the House and win nothing.

    Milhouse in reply to redc1c4. | December 19, 2019 at 1:39 am

    Trump’s second inauguration will be on January 20, 2021. The articles (if not yet dealt with) will expire on January 3.

“To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell’s heart, I stab at thee; For hate’s sake, I spit my last breath at thee”.

Here, have some kool-aid before you join the rest self-immolating in the dumpster fire.

Trump: here’s some more lighter fluid…

I’ll be donating to challengers of vulnerable dems in the House. I would love to see them lose the house in 2020 over this.

    Edward in reply to Andy. | December 19, 2019 at 12:58 am

    As others have pointed out, they need to be given Minority status in the House and keep Minority status in the Senate. If they keep the House Majority, they will likely try to pass Articles of Impeachment after 20 January 2021 and the President is again inaugurated.

OwenKellogg-Engineer | December 19, 2019 at 2:54 am

I’m no lawyer, just an engineer. Can anyine confirm that, if per chance the House does not transmit the articles AND the Senate does not take action, that the articles die with the 116th Congress? My concern is on the off chance that the Dems take control of the Senate in 2020, can they take up the articles of a previous Congress?

    They can certainly try. They might even get away with it.

    It’s not hard to imagine that the Supreme Court would run screaming from any attempt to get them to adjudicate that!

    But there’s no chance they’ll have a 2/3 majority in the next Senate, so it would just mean another chance to hold a show trial.

OwenKellogg-Engineer | December 19, 2019 at 2:56 am

Given, of course, that Trump wins a second term.
(I really need to use that preview button and proof my text 🙂 )

Thee is an enormous honor system in our government. Today, it ended.

Whatever reaction comes back is not too extreme, whether it be political, or whether dragging Pelosi out by her hair into the street and beating her dead. After all, she is trying to enslave us.

Give me liberty, AND give me the heads of those trying to enslave us. The hell with MY death.

    If all goes well in the House in 2020, impeach Obama at the earliest opportunity.

    No Constitutional removal crisis and he gets the same asterisk as Trump.

    Message sent.

      Barry Soetoro in reply to Y2K. | December 19, 2019 at 4:33 am

      If the natural born British East African is impeached and convicted on an overwhelming amount of credible evidence that he violated the Espionage Act by sending unsecured e-mail to Clinton’s illegal server, that he authorized and oversaw an unlawful domestic spying operation for personal gain, unlawfully interfered in the 2016 election, and attempted to overthrow the government, his pension will be terminated along with his Secret Service protection.

        notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to Barry Soetoro. | December 19, 2019 at 4:27 pm

        Barrack’s gonna need more lives than a cat to handle all the treason indictments he’s going to be hung justly with….

      Barry in reply to Y2K. | December 19, 2019 at 8:15 pm

      He could be impeached by the house, he will never be convicted in the senate.

Memo for Democrats:

When you have 10,000+ people filling a stadium for Trump, after many of them have waited for hours in sub-freezing weather, in a state that’s been traditionally part of the Democrat blue wall…I’d be worried as s**t about your 2020 presidential prospects.

    clintack in reply to MarkJ. | December 19, 2019 at 8:30 am

    They wouldn’t be doing any of this if they thought they had a good chance at the 2020 Presidential race.

I’m currently working two jobs, 7 days a week.

I haven’t heard a single co-worker nor customer mention impeachment.

That’s hard to believe, but I think it accurately reflects how people outside of the DC and media bubbles are not thinking about this at all. It’s a big, partisan nothingburger to them.

In 2020 Trump will make history by being the first impeached president to be reelected.

Here’s a thought, “how long until Mike Pence is impeached as well”…because that would make Nancy president by the Constitution…

    oldgoat36 in reply to Rich Vail. | December 19, 2019 at 7:14 am

    Impeachment only means the first legal step, though in this case it’s questionable about it being any but political, in removal. It would take both being impeached and the senate trial removing both to get Nancy crowned.

Twitter Resister: “Now that Trump has been impeached, does Hillary have to wait until January for her inauguration?”

In the South, we have a quaint saying. “There’s gonna be a whole mess of disappointed dumbasses in the morning.”

Please note that it is up to each and everyone of us to make them “rue the day.”
The date is November 3rd, but we have to do a lot of talking to family and friends in the 320 days between today and that date.

Voice_of_Reason | December 19, 2019 at 7:31 am

the senate can simply do what the house has done and make up a new process: don’t wait for pelosi to pass the articles to the senate, simply dismiss any and all current or future impeachment articles from the 116th Congress with prejudice. mitch should dismiss the articles because they contain no impeachable allegations.

It’s a new system of government. A one party congress picks the president, namely the speaker of the house becomes president and the speaker doesn’t even have to be a member of congress.

The party what would run this impeachment would also do conviction if they held the senate as well.

The founders though the necessity of an actual crime would stabilize this system, but a crime turns out not to be necessary. So now we have an unstable system for all time.

If the GOP is smart, they will link every Democratic House candidate to Nancy Pelosi. “A vote for________ is really a vote for Nancy Pelosi. TV ads will start with a photo of the candidate with an audio ticking off leftist issues and the video will morph into a haggard Nancy Pelosi.

Fox News Headline: After House rush to impeachment, Pelosi now says she may hold back articles from Senate.

Hurry up & wait. In the Army, it was a joke. To the Dems, it is a strategy and the Dems themselves are the joke.

lord, can you imagine where we’d be if the leftists/dems controlled the senate?–that this whole charade was based on hearsay and opinion evidence is the most shocking thing to me–and supported/vigorously advanced by the ” media “–yet another blatant slap in the face to American citizens–how long do the leftists believe they can keep doing this with impunity?–am wondering if voting them out will be sufficient–support trump myself but am literally floored that a group of adults could be so brazen, so transparent in their denial/disregard for our constitution and our way of life–believe that trump’s re-election will be the demarcation line for us all as to what the future of the republic shall be

What an amazing opportunity to stick a shieve in the Crazy Democrats. The Constitution LIMITS the President to two terms and not partial terms. Lets have the Republican Senate remove the the God Emperor on day prior to his second term. This in theory would allow The Donald to legally run for an additional term as he has not served a full term. Just think of the apoplexy.

Last week, I got a postcard from CA voter registration targeting us unaffiliated independents and asking us to declare which independent party (out of three presented) we would like a mail-in ballot for in the March primary. It also indicated that if we plan to vote Republican, we don’t have to do anything.

I am being told that only registered Republicans can vote Republican in the primary so is this a ploy to disenfranchise we unaffiliated independents from voting? What happened to the “jungle primary”?

I’ll be looking for reports telling us how many of us are changing in registration to Republican. I’m not taking any chances. I can switch back to unaffiliated after the primary like I did last time.

It was indeed “historic” – first House to impeach a President for doing his job.

Professor Jacobson, I respectfully suggest that all supporters of the president always use the term President Trump not just Trump. It shows respect for the office and the man and will drive the looney’s further round the bend if it catches on.

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to John Casteel. | December 19, 2019 at 4:22 pm


    We know why the Communist-Leftist DIMS have been leaving it off, but everyone should use President Trump.

smalltownoklahoman | December 19, 2019 at 10:11 am

Yes they will rue this day! How many are up for reelection in 2020? Be interesting to see how many get tossed out in November!

This one-time #nervoustrumper who is now a staunch supporter says your damned right they will rue the day!!

Merry Christmas everyone!

Democrats are in the bliss between getting laid and realizing they got screwed.

A desperation move by Pelosi. And desperation has never inspired confidence.

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | December 19, 2019 at 4:20 pm

Let Them Wait

Pelosi wants an agreement from McConnell, but there would be nothing binding about such an agreement.–UvR6zE-g

Let’s look on the other side.

Clearly, the experiment of a woman Speaker of the House has proven that “bad leadership” is an equal opportunity commodity.

If this notion gets transferred to the Presidential campaigns, there will be some blue-on-blue unhappiness.