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How long before Trump rebrands “Sleepy Joe” as “Ukraine Joe”?

How long before Trump rebrands “Sleepy Joe” as “Ukraine Joe”?

The more Ukraine-gate drags on, the more it hurts Biden. Oddly, that jives with Trump’s goal of damaging the person he sees as the most dangerous general election opponent, so Trump outwardly seems to be enjoying this.

Joe Biden still leads the Democrat presidential field, but his lead is precarious and conditioned on Warren and Bernie splitting the far-left base, which combined exceeds support for Biden.

Should the far-left consolidate around one candidate, Biden is done.

A recent NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll shows that Biden’s numerous recent blunders and mental lapses are taking a toll:

While Biden may be the Democratic Party’s current standard-bearer for more moderate — and popular — policy proposals, a significant share of Americans in the poll say they’re losing confidence in his ability to lead the country.

A third of voters overall — 36 percent — say they’ve lost confidence in Biden in recent weeks, a time period that included a debate performance described as shaky by his critics. Just eight percent say they’ve grown more confident in him….

Those who have lost confidence in the former vice president cited his debate performance, his age and what they say is an over-reliance on Obama’s legacy in making his own case for the job.

This drain on Biden’s support is likely to grow as the media obsesses over Trump’s conversation with the Ukrainian president in which Biden’s dealings in Ukraine apparently were mentioned.

The precise details of the conversation are not presently known, other than Trump indicating the mention of Biden was in passing:

As I noted, this focus on the Biden family is not helpful to Biden, Joe Biden and Ukraine is “Hillary’s Emails” all over again.

Trump is now on full attack against the Biden family dealings in Ukraine and China, a topic we have covered before.

Trump is winning the information war, something CNN and others are whining about:

The more Ukraine-gate drags on, the more it hurts Biden. Oddly, that jives with Trump’s goal of damaging the person he sees as the most dangerous general election opponent, so Trump outwardly seems to be enjoying this.

I would not be surprised to see Trump rebrand Biden from “Sleepy Joe” to “Ukraine Joe” as part of the goal of preventing Biden from getting the nomination.


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CNN, accusing Trump of what they’ve been doing all along.

OwenKellogg-Engineer | September 22, 2019 at 10:26 pm

Maybe those 720 Million women (we’re at what, 350 million population?) will be a deciding factor in 2020.

    He was counting all the various genders and subgenders…anything that might be considered “female” or “woman” or “womyn” or “wyman” (Bill Wyman of the Rolling Stones excepted). Double- and triple-counting is tolerated in such cases.

Watching the msm, they are in the beginning stages of throwing joe under the bus. I can’t believe it took decades for this guy to be exposed. Then again, he is a democrat and (was) a msm favorite. Bragging about getting the Ukrainian prosecutor fired is the end of joe biden’s political career. The problem the democrats have now, is how to distance themselves from not only biden, but the massive corruption they’ve been engaged in for so many years.

    oldgoat36 in reply to CKYoung. | September 23, 2019 at 12:00 am

    Biden dragged Obama right under the bus with him, his telling them to call the President implicates Obama as part of this Ukraine bribe.

    That is gonna be a tough sell for the Propaganda networks to dance around.

    Of course the left don’t seem quite so in love with Duh One anymore. But they still won’t go for dragging Obama through the mud in all this. It’s part of why they are so insistent about getting Trump, because if Trump goes down the spying on him by Obama becomes justified.

      Milhouse in reply to oldgoat36. | September 23, 2019 at 8:01 am

      0bama supporters could claim that Biden was bluffing, and had no idea whether 0bama would back him up.

        CKYoung in reply to Milhouse. | September 23, 2019 at 7:29 pm

        I can’t see joe biden or the president of Ukraine calling obama out of the blue “Hey barry, let’s cancel this $1 Billion in loan guarantees and collapse the Ukrainian economy.” No, obama knew. My bet is all the communications regarding this were ON HILLARY’S SERVER. I know some will call me a conspiracy theorist, but the illegal server wasn’t theoretical. 33,000 deleted emails isn’t theoretical. Acid wash/bleachbit isn’t theoretical. Destroyed cell phones/sim cards, laptops isn’t theoretical. And barry obama having used this illegal server isn’t theoretical either.

          Milhouse in reply to CKYoung. | September 24, 2019 at 2:41 pm

          No, what I’m suggesting is that 0bama didn’t know, and when Biden told the Ukranians to call him and confirm his threat he was bluffing, betting that they wouldn’t dare do it. If so he bet correctly, since they didn’t call 0bama. The only way I can see 0bama and Clinton knowingly aiding this would be if they were getting a piece of the action, and we’ve seen no evidence of that.

    Milhouse in reply to CKYoung. | September 23, 2019 at 8:07 am

    If they could throw Biden under the bus then this would turn bad for Trump. They could say Biden and Trump both committed the same offense and are both unfit for office, and proceed with impeachment. But the thing is they can’t dump Biden that easily; suppose he wins the primaries despite them, what then? They can’t put themselves in a position where they have no choice but to oppose the Dem nominee. So until the primaries are over, or Biden is persuaded to drop out, they can’t say that he’s unfit, which means they also can’t say that Trump, who (allegedly) did the same thing he (definitely) did, is unfit (for that reason).

It is like a matador—you can’t go in for the kill too quickly.

A criminal (a democrat, what do you expect?) and a pervert (a democrat, what do you expect?) and a traitor (a democrat, what do you expect?)

President Trump is leading a disinformation campaign

What, Fake News?

I’m still betting on a brokered convention choosing a “reluctant” Hillary as the candidate, as she’s planned it all along.

She hasn’t given up, she has dirt on everyone and will use it as necessary, and her party’s gonna lose anyway, so why not?

Plus, she has a lot of experience at vote counting. That’s the scary part.

    You know, I think that might be a possibility. But I’m not sure if Hillary would be a real threat to Trump. I don’t think there’s much chance of Bill Clinton living in the White House again. Perhaps close, but no cigar.

    There was a significant voting block that didn’t vote “for” Trump as much as a “Oh Hell No!™ against Hillary.

    She somehow manages to slink her way to the D nomination and no matter how much those people may believe Trump has not met their performance standard, they’ll repeat that previous performance, simply because of Hillary.

    RITaxpayer in reply to hopp singg. | September 23, 2019 at 6:25 am

    “I’m still betting on a brokered convention choosing a “reluctant” Hillary as the candidate,”

    Even the dems can’t be that STUPID. I’m waiting for Oprah to announce.

    (preview button still not working)

    Milhouse in reply to hopp singg. | September 23, 2019 at 8:09 am

    No, if there’s a dark horse it’ll be Michelle.

      Disco Stu_ in reply to Milhouse. | September 23, 2019 at 8:30 am

      Oh man, now you’ve done it. Using the words “dark” and “horse” in reference the the adored former First Lady. (Originally spelled out as “Laddy” but I know that’s so wrong.)

      Directly to a #ReeducationCamp you must now be taken.

    NGAREADER in reply to hopp singg. | September 23, 2019 at 9:14 am

    If the MSM ever picks up on what Trump is saying, Hillary will be the last person that will benefit.
    Her husband was globe trotting around the world giving speeches and collecting very large checks from foreign entities. When she lost power those checks dried up overnight.
    As soon as (if) the general public begins to understand how this practice works with politicians through family & friends laundering the money, there will be a lot of others facing the same questions.
    This issue is a huge part of the swamp and the water that keeps it filled.

    artichoke in reply to hopp singg. | September 27, 2019 at 11:59 pm

    Warren sees all that and can unleash some goblins of her own. (How else could a no-talent like her get as far as she has?) Reported elsewhere that the Dems already asked her to step aside and she refused. No reason for her to cooperate, she has nothing to gain.

Sleepy Joe will likely lose the nomination and, even if this Ukraine corruption is proved, little else will happen to him or his son. What kind of country have we become where our leaders can now steal huge amounts of money or otherwise manipulate the law to their advantage in their efforts to give lucrative contracts to friends, protect others from criminal consequences, or whatever, while facing little to no legal consequences of their own? We are now a true banana republic for Hillary, Joe, or who knows who else who have committed obvious crimes will go unpunished thereby reinforcing the two ideas of a tow tiered justice system and the perfectly safe practice of using government offices as a stepping stone to great personal wealth. Until people start going to jail, nothing will change. Indeed, it will only get worse.

“Ukraine Joe” may be premature. His corrupt family deals with China is much worse. More money for the Biden Family International Crime Syndicate while enabling theft of critical US national security secrets. Maybe “Shanghai Joe”?

    How about getting started with “Ukraine Joe” and having Trump come out stating that he thought about that but we’ll be calling him “Shanghai Joe” soon enough. One of them will stick eventually.

    PrincetonAl in reply to Pasadena Phil. | September 23, 2019 at 7:41 am

    I agree. I have been on record for months that it should be “China Joe Biden”.

    At the end of the day, most general voters don’t really care about our Ukraine foreign policy …

    … but everyone could understand that China Joe would be fatally compromised when it comes to China, and that China matters.

    Especially swing state manufacturing industry voters.

“Ukraine Joe” sounds awkward. Even “Sleepy Joe” wasn’t as euphonious as “Slow Joe”. I’d go with “Hunter’s Dad”. Don’t even give him his name; from now on he’s a crook’s father and nothing else.

Hillary no. Michelle Obama–maybe.

There’s also a shady China deal with Hunter.

The more interesting thing will be if NO candidate wins on the first ballot. The Democrats may go the way of the Whigs. A corrupt crony – Hillary again? A Socialist Green? Probably not Tulsi who has a chance.

CaliforniaJimbo | September 23, 2019 at 9:00 am

Robert “Hunter” Biden aka Beijing Bob.

The democrat clown car is providing entertainment for all of us.

I’m in a private social media political group with about 15 liberal Democrats and progressives. The discussion last week was Trump trying to get “fake dirt” on Joe Biden with regard to Ukraine. After trolling them for a couple days (is what I do), I dropped the bombshell video of Biden bragging about getting the Ukraine prosecutor fired. Most chose not to respond except for one who marginalized the video because it was on “Fox News.” The final point made was the whistleblower complaint wasn’t even first hand information, it was hearsay. Again, nobody chose to address the merits of any points I made, it was always “Trump, traitor, criminal, impeachment,” in other words, Huffpo talking points.

Re: the subtitle at the top of the page: that would be “jibes” (connects with, compatible with), not “jives” (jazz and a form of swing dance).

Remember when Sleepy Joe remarked … “China is not our enemy.” ?

When even Chuck Schumer was on board with taking them on before it’s too late.

If YOU had as much money stuffed into you as China stuffed into the Bidens, you might be just enough of a whore to make whorish comments too.

The Trumpster should heed the age old admonition and “Let Sleepy Joes Die.”

He need say nothing more about any of it.

The ‘Whistleblower’ is clearly a Warren operative, and (s)he hit the mark.

Buh Bye.

Joe should have listened to President Obama …. “You don’t need to do this.”

    CKYoung in reply to bigemunn. | September 23, 2019 at 7:58 pm

    I’m thinking Team Trump wanted the Ukrain story to hit about now. So they dressed it up like ‘Trump Corruption’ and turned it loose into the world. The msm found ‘Trump Corruption’ walking around downtown DC and ripped the clothes off. Except underneath the ‘Trump Corruption’ scarecrow’s clothes and found DIRTY JOE BIDEN. And crack-pipe hunter too. The “whistleblower” is either a tool or a fool, but they did their job, I’ll bet half my paycheck that when adam schiff gets his hands on the phone call transcript, he’s going to wish he never bothered to get into politics much less become a democrat. Trump has these guy’s number, and they don’t realize it yet.

      drednicolson in reply to CKYoung. | September 24, 2019 at 1:38 am

      A Biden tar baby in Trump clothing. There’s a good political cartoon in there. Branco’s already covered this, though.

Ol' Jim hisself | September 23, 2019 at 1:51 pm

I’ll go with “Slimy Joe”, or, perhaps, “Creepy Joe”.

Now Bill Weld says Trump committed treason. Clearly, like Joe Biden, he’s never actually read the constitution but only saw the movie and/or skimmed the Cliff notes. Even if the story were 100% true, it would not be treason. (Nor was what Biden did treason.)

I think the Dems instantly moved on from Biden the minute this stuff about Ukraine came out. He could conceivably be electable without this stuff, but with it, nope.

But the Dems have the problem of no alternatives. Warren not electable. Gabbard interviewed on Fox News and announced “I am disloyal Tulsi Gabbard, ready to embarrass the party leadership at their moment of maximum pressure!” She took it back but she’s finished in the party, at least until the current generation of leadership that now hates her guts dies off.