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#DemDebate line-of-the-night: “Why do we have to be so extreme?

#DemDebate line-of-the-night: “Why do we have to be so extreme?

John Delaney and other moderates expressed exasperation with Bernie and Warren’s Medicare-for-All plan, but their voices have no place in the current Democratic Party.

Another Democratic Debate took place tonight, and it was all so predictable, with the exception of Marianne Williamson. She certainly raised her profile with an aggressive endorsement of reparations, speaking out against the ‘dark psyche’ of Trump, and other concerns about healing the nation.

I would not be surprised if she got a bounce.

Bernie and Warren tried to out-do each other. Bernie was the socialist visionary, Warren played the fighter. They are playing for the same audience.

But the real drama on stage was that several of the moderates — who still are left of center — on stage rejected Medicare-for-All as both destructive and likely to hand Trump a victory.

John Hickenlooper, Steve Bullock, and Tim Ryan went there, but John Delaney was the most aggressive, and his lines were the most memorable:

“Why do we have to be so extreme? Why can’t we just give everyone health care as a right, and allow them to have choice? I’m starting to think this is not about health care. This an anti-private sector strategy.”

These moderates, collectively, don’t add up to much in polls. I wouldn’t be surprised if none of them make it to the next debate.

These moderate Democrats served as a voice of reason, and it was a negative for the leftist leaders to have doses of reality served in front of a national audience from other Democrats.


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“Why do we have to be the party that takes things away?”

That’s the line of the night, without any disrespect to the Professor’s fine nomination.

Because that is the Democratic Party in a nutshell. Anti-freedom. They will make all the choices for you. You missed the memo, Comrade Delaney.

It’s hard to have a dictatorship where there is abundance and choice, so those have to go first and foremost.

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to PrincetonAl. | July 31, 2019 at 1:49 pm

    Democrats are truly the Psychopath Party.

    Study the traits of psychopaths, and denying people what they want and taking away things people like is one of their most salient characteristics.

Q: Why do we have to be do extreme?
A: Shut your misogyny hole your racist!

“Why do we have to be so extreme?…”

Why, what else do these corrupt jackasses have?

i must admit i had to laugh when farmers ran an ad featuring clowns during the debate. whoever placed that deserves a bonus.

are those cages of kids available at amazon?

Thank God for Trump, else the GOP would find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2020.

Run lefter dems, run lefter.

The radical Dems support “choice” when it comes to abortion, but not when it comes to health insurance.

I’ve said it for months.

They are cocooned inside their ideological bubbles where Trump is universally hated.

They’ve convinced themselves that ANY Democrat will automatically win.

If you believe that, then the only thing you have to worry about is winning the primary.

Hence the lemming charge off the progressive left cliff.

    mailman in reply to Olinser. | July 31, 2019 at 4:57 am

    Because they have convinced themselves any democrat can win they are now in a race to the bottom to nominate the least electable Democrat candidate since 2015! These guys are their own worst enemies.

Self-loathing white people debating who hates white people most. These godless, bitter dictators even have a “prayer” for it now. Talking of “magical” new possibilities while hating everyone and everything. Entitlements as far as the eye can see with no sense of responsibility. Lulling us all into the nothingness of everything. We better get used to standing in line after line hoping there is something left when we get to the end.

One “refreshing” thing about Williamson, she doesn’t try to hide her obvious mental illness behind rhetoric. She just lays it out there for all the world to see “this is a mind on drugs” example.

These people truly scare me, mainly because I have small faith in our electoral system not being compromised by the left’s voter fraud machine, and there are so many Democrat voters out there who vote for “D”, without seeing anything but the D, not caring about what policies they are proposing, but hey, bribes with American Taxpayer dollars to push us to third world status.

They want to control every aspect of your life because free people who can make their own choices truly scares them. Holding their phony moral high ground while worshiping on the altar of government sanctioned baby sacrifices. Perversions pushed for mental illnesses at young ages so they become entrenched and government help you if you dare to question the validity of parents who willing warp young minds and bodies.

This is the brand new type of Nazis. Totalitarians – every one of them. Even the “moderate” ones who just clothe their desires in a softer wrapper. Every one of the moderates would sign any leftist bill that comes there way.

    TrickyRicky in reply to oldgoat36. | July 31, 2019 at 9:02 am

    Regarding your final comment, one of my favorite radio talk show hosts, Mike Rosen on KOA in Denver, had the perfect summation of this politcal fact.

    Party trumps person.

    No matter how “moderate” the democrat in question, once elected they ALWAYS toe the party line and their moderation is a quickly fading fantasy.

    Close The Fed in reply to oldgoat36. | July 31, 2019 at 12:20 pm

    Old Goat, I don’t think John Delaney is a wannabe tyrant. Almost one or two almost-reasonable folks appeared.

    bw222 in reply to oldgoat36. | July 31, 2019 at 5:01 pm

    The moderators never break the costs of the Democratic giveaways down as to how they would affect the average American.

DouglasJBender | July 31, 2019 at 6:34 am

There are corrupt and evil people in this world. Most of them crave power over others, and that almost always involves their having control over others, which would thus take away the freedom of others. Which candidate and party wants to REDUCE government regulations and control over people, and which candidates and party wants to INCREASE government regulations and control?

    snopercod in reply to DouglasJBender. | July 31, 2019 at 8:42 am

    There are two kinds of people in the world: Those with the ability to master nature by growing or building things, and those without ability who can only survive by manipulating other people.

The “Who Won” poll on Drudge has Williamson blitzing the whole crew.

    Eskyman in reply to tom_swift. | July 31, 2019 at 7:10 pm

    Marianne’s the one who scares me the most.

    Angry commie Bernie or Chief Slinging Bull Warren would be ideal candidates against Donald Trump, he’d slice them, dice them, and shred them without raising a sweat. They’re so angry about everything, and so crazily far-Left, that they don’t worry me; normal people are put off by this amount of insanity.

    But Williamson is kinda “California normal,” and CA voters actually supported Democrat crazy people that sounded nice, which got them into the mess that they now have; and there’s no changing it back, it’s now a one-party state forevermore. It can happen!

    Just look at universities, Millennials, people who watch Oprah & think she’s brilliant, people who watch The View, single women, soyboys & angry/frustrated career women- and they’re just the types who would vote for a New Age style woman who wants to conquer problems with “love, love, love.”

    Scariest of all is that Marianne tells what she believes to be the truth, at least some of the time, which is 100% more often than Bernie or Pocahontas; the only others that do are the no-hopers, who argued for sanity in that debate & were loudly overruled.

    So I really hope that people on the Right will stop sending donations “just for the laughs” to Williamson; that could backfire badly!

Q: Why do we have to be do extreme?

A: Because we are the unAmerican Commiecrat party,you will kike us or else.

Sander’s comments on the Canadian healthcare system is misleading you American that was healthcare for all. Without know the exact numbers I believe most workers have some sort of private care through their employment benefit system. It is very hard to find a family doctor that takes new patients. In hospitals, patients are kept in the ER for days until a bed becomes available and patients are being treated in the hallways. To see some specialists could take months.

Most medications are free once you turn 65. Under 65, the medication is mostly paid for by private insurance through the benefit plans except for the co-payment part which can vary depending on the plan.

Good luck America
Healthcare in Canada is considered good even with all the issues.

    Close The Fed in reply to wethenorth. | July 31, 2019 at 12:23 pm

    Yeah, Bernie always glosses over the waits and the other negatives of government medicine.

    But then, why wouldn’t he? He thinks BREADLINES are GOOD.

    He’s mentally defective.

      cuthroattrout77 in reply to Close The Fed. | July 31, 2019 at 2:48 pm

      I have a former co-worker who recently toured Greece and Turkey. He managed to need some medical attention in Greece because of a less than curtious driver while renting a scooter.

      Both he and his wife were treated at the ER for some pretty nasty road rash. Neither of them was taken back to a room for treatment, those areas are reserved for more serious injuries. The nurse treated them without even consulting with a doctor. She never washed her hands once because the hospital was out of sterilization materials. The table (if it can loosely be called that) that they were treated on still had the paper from the previous patient, and was never changed the whole time.

      When he asked about seeing a doctor, the nurse informed him that only one was on duty, and he could look them over, but it would be some time before he could get to them. They decided to leave, return to the hotel and go buy some medical supplies locally and sterilize and rebandage every thing applied at the hospital… hey, it was FREE!

        HarvardPhD in reply to cuthroattrout77. | July 31, 2019 at 2:58 pm

        This is what comes from a philosophy of life called, “It’s the Thought that Counts.” The intention of providing free health care is more important than the result that it might kill the patient. I can’t remember the number of times some Democrat has held up a foreign country (Cuba! Russia!) for offering “free” health care when it was obvious that the care wasn’t even up to late 19th century standards.

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | July 31, 2019 at 2:39 pm

Ace of Spades:

“If anything is obvious to me from these Democrat debates, where we get to see not one, not two, but 20 Democrats who think they should be president making their pitch to the American people on a national stage, it’s that progressivism is a death cult. I’m not exaggerating for effect. At the end of every progressive policy or goal, there is death, death, and more death. Progressivism has come so that we may have death, and that more abundantly. I think it’s demonic, but I think even a non-religious person can see that the way of the Left always ends in death. Always. It’s the logical conclusion of every single progressive ideal.

“And, of course, they want us dead. Which is why they hate us in general, and Donald Trump in particular. Because we’re standing in the way of their ‘progress.’ And not only is Trump standing in their way, he’s mooning them, too.”

We have two problems with the electorate today:

(1) The existence of a large body of young, mostly white, and relatively prosperous new voters, who have little of no experience with adult life, and who like nice buzz words, like “social justice” and “fairness,” “caring” and so forth.

(2) The creation of a larger group of people who like to think they are not affiliated with an evil fraternity called “Republicans,” and whose identity is tied up with being virtuous, ‘D’ voters who would never be confused with the evil ones. This is why they don’t think about what they are being sold: their personal identity is being tied up with never voting ‘R’ no matter what personal interests might be threatened in an election.

The solution, unfortunately, is not short-term. A massive re-education program must begin, aimed at younger people who have been lied to by teachers and other authority figures (cultural ‘heroes’ for instance) for most of their lives. They have to learn about the evils of socialism, and the good things our society has done. So far, they have only been told about the evils of our society and heard praises for the virtuous intentions of socialists. Election spots can target the problem, but for too many they will fall upon deaf ears.

Republicans have to combat the ‘evil’ branding Democrats have managed to thrust upon them. It is great fun to ‘own the libs,’ but it also reinforces the stereotype that keeps too many voters we could win over from even considering the possibility of voting ‘R’—because policy has become confused in their minds with basic notions of personal virtue and their self-identification with the ‘tribe of the virtuous.’ We have to stress our own virtue and concern—especially by pointing out that hurting people while pretending to help them is not virtuous, it is selfishness masquerading as concern.

Assuming there are 320 million people in the US, Crazy Marianne’s $500 billion reparations plan would add up to $1,562 for every man, woman, child or whatever in the US.

People who never owned slaves paying reparations to people who never were slaves.

“”Earlier in the debate, a separate group of protesters erupted in chants of “Fire Pantaleo,”””

So, if you’re a Dem protestor, it’s all right to yell “Fire” in a crowded theater?