Rotten Tomatoes Won’t Show ‘Want to See’ Ratings After People Trash Captain Marvel
Don’t like a movie or what an actor says? You’re automatically a troll.
Rotten Tomatoes had an option for people to vote on movies they want to see before the release. Since people have trashed Captain Marvel and Star Wars: Episode XI, the movie rating site has decided to remove it as a way to fight so-called trolls.
So I guess now when people don’t want to see what should be popular movies they are trolls. I guess it has absolutely nothing to do with Captain Marvel star Brie Larson’s trashing of white males and the fact that The Last Jedi sucked.
From Rotten Tomatoes:
What else are we doing? We are disabling the comment function prior to a movie’s release date. Unfortunately, we have seen an uptick in non-constructive input, sometimes bordering on trolling, which we believe is a disservice to our general readership. We have decided that turning off this feature for now is the best course of action. Don’t worry though, fans will still get to have their say: Once a movie is released, audiences can leave a user rating and comments as they always have.
The website doesn’t specify Captain Marvel or Star Wars, but anyone with a brain can connect the dots. Unfortunately, Rotten Tomatoes has wiped the slates on all the upcoming movies, but Entertainment Weekly provided this:
In recent weeks, Rotten Tomatoes users have slammed Captain Marvel with negative comments so that it reportedly looked like the least anticipated Marvel movie ever, even though ticket pre-sales have been very strong (bigger than Aquaman or Wonder Woman, according to Fandango). Many of the comments were reportedly attacking the superhero film for having a female lead, and some were in reaction to star Brie Larson complaining that the press pool covering her film was “overwhelmingly white male.” She later clarified, “What I’m looking for is to bring more seats up to the table. No one is getting their chair taken away. There’s not less seats at the table, there’s just more seats at the table.”
The same trolling was happening for Episode IX, with the final installment of the Star Wars trilogy getting a trove of negative comments, despite the film not even having a trailer or title yet. Many of those comments were in reaction to fan disappointment with the previous film in the trilogy, The Last Jedi.
Here is a screenshot:
Am I a troll because I don’t want to see Captain Marvel after Larson’s comments? Oh my goodness, the privilege that drips off of her when she complains that her press conferences are full of white males! She attempted to clarify the remarks and claimed no one would lose a chair at her press conferences, but she wants to add more.
You don’t need to push feminism and trash white males in order to promote a film about a powerful, strong female lead!
Also, let’s talk about Star Wars. I am a huge Star Wars fan. I have R2D2 all over my kitchen. My living room has an R2D2 throw rug. But The Last Jedi stunk and I have no desire to see the next one.
Here’s the lesson: You want good reviews? Put out a quality product. Also, when you rant and rave about your social and political views, don’t be shocked when people respond in a negative way because not everyone thinks like you.
We deserve to have our opinions heard just as much as Larson, especially on a website designed for expressing those opinions.
Grow a spine, Hollywood.
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I have been to the theater to see a movie twice in 7 years. I saw “Bohemian Rhapsody” and “The Mule”. Hollywood, if you want my money how about producing movies that are good and keep your views under wraps!
I could have written this. Haven’t been to the movies in how long and all of a sudden I see Bohemian Rhapsody and The Mule in a span of two weeks. And I loved both of them.
Captain’s Lost Marbles
How could anyone not want to see that!!!!!!!!!
Hollywood? Show introspection? Never happen. They truly live in a bubble of wierdness and (increasingly) leftard dystopia.
So Rotten Tomatoes is a site use by everyday people to act as critics for films that no longer allows everyday people to act as critics for films. What could possibly go wrong
No, it no longer allows people to rate films before seeing them, or hearing from someone who has seen them. In other words, the site is interested only in genuine opinions, not in prejudice.
I bet you liked The Last Jedi.
Thems fightin’ words!
Is it true that movie’s name is properly pronounced,
“The Last JERK, I?”
I hated Phantom Menace and didn’t bother with any of the subsequent ones. I haven’t been to the movies in years.
it had nothing to do with reviews of the film, it was just are you interested in going or not, people justified their reason.
I actually have respect for you. Please don’t ruin it by grabbing onto this journalist-spread garbage about “Do you want to see this film?” being a review. It never was.
Tens of thousands of people said they didn’t want to see this film, and gave intelligent comments about why this is the case. It is not my crusade either way, but it was a rating of enthusiasm to see the film, not the film. You either know better or you really should.
Did I say anything about reviews? Cleetus made a stupid and dishonest comment, to which I replied. What objection do you have to my reply? Do you agree with Cleetus that this decision means “Rotten Tomatoes is [now] a site use by everyday people to act as critics for films that no longer allows everyday people to act as critics for films”?
Stop lying.
There were no reviews. It was literally impossible to leave reviews.
They had two buttons ‘Want to see’ and ‘Do not want to see’.
People were hitting the ‘Do not want to see’ button, and leaving a comment why.
That’s not trolling, that’s using the site EXACTLY as intended. They just couldn’t take one of their SJW pet projects being poorly received.
Who said anything about reviews? Do you or do you not agree with Cleetus’s stupid comment to which I replied? If you don’t, then you can’t possibly object to my reply.
If I’m reading the first sentence of the article correctly it was not a poll to critique the movie but to measure anticipation of the movie. Wouldn’t not liking the star of a movie be just as valid a reason to vote that you do not want to see a movie as loving the star of a movie would be a valid reason to say you are excited to see a it?
It was never reviews of “movie you haven’t seen”, it was always a way to rate audience excitement prior to release. You were asked to comment if you were planning to possibly go or not. When the lead in a movie promotes her movie by insulting 50% of the public, surprise, the number of “not interested”s shit up.
The last time I saw a movie in a theater was 2008. The two times before that were back in 2006 and 2003. Of these three visits, I came to the conclusion that it wasn’t even worth my time to sit in an uncomfortable chair for well over an hour to see nothing but what hollywood had excreted. That’s to say nothing of what I could better spend that money on. I was disgusted at the ticket price in 2008, and that was the end of it.
I don’t miss the movies.
UnCivilServant, they’ve heard at least one of your complaints. There are now theaters with much more comfortable seats.
Now, if they’d only improve the movies on the screen…
Here is the thing: The theater owners are suffering because of the dearth of quality films. They have enhanced the theater experience, which they can control, with better seats and luxury snack options. But, alas, Hollywood continues to think it has the same cachet it did in the 1940’s and 1950’s.
The biggest enhancement to the experience has been less people around you.
However, enhancement has come with a spike in ticket price. With that and the lack of films worthy of my big screen dollar, I will contribute to the enhancement by staying home.
I also think home theater experiences and the availability of movies at home earlier and by more methods have contributed greatly to theater decline. It’s like Hollywood doesn’t understand market forces…who would have thought a bunch of socialists wouldn’t understand supply/demand.
Enhanced? Like 30 minutes or more of blaring commercials before the show starts?
Or Marvel crap? The truth is that not much of what is being produced is worth watching.
And then there is the fact that streaming service are not very expensive, and they have driven the value of used DVD way down. I buy them for about 20 cent each, whole collections of 500 to 1000 or more. I do this for three reasons, I expect streaming to become more expensive, When there are outages I switch to watching DVDs, and I am getting ready to sell my farm, going to move much further away from cities, and I might end up were Internet connectivity is slower and may be much more expensive.
I am a semi-regular movie goer. And, I was looking forward to see First Man until they politicised it. Instead of watching first run, I resolved to wait for RedBox. But, I haven’t even spent the $1.25 on it. Maybe I’ll see it when it comes out on TV.
I have trouble finding anything I am interested in on Redbox.
Appreciate the heads up on that. It looked like something I wanted to see, but now I’ll wait until it’s free to watch. I may not watch it even then.
I watched the first Star Wars movie recently and realized it is really poorly done. The latter movies are way worse. I can’t imagine sitting in a theater for hours watching this pc crap.
The only thing worse than the new trilogy is the not-so-new-anymore prequel trilogy.
There are some great videos of the many problems with the new movies. They start sub-plots and then just end them…Snoke, the Knights of Ren, etc. There are serious choreography issues too that should have never made it to the final cut. Rian Johnson is a fraud, even without the SJW nonsense.
I get that many movies now are politicized.
I don’t go to the movies much any more, and I don’t think i will watch the Oscars again.
Yes, some of the movies are trash.
But some movies still trumpet values that resonate with us as conservatives.
I saw Upside twice, which I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a movie twice in a theater before. The second time was to watch it with my wife. I enjoy Brian Cranston, Kevin Hart and Nicole Kidman, and the ideals depicted and the character development in the movie resonated with me. And i haven’t laughed that much at a movie in a long time.
Like it or not, movies and tv shows are the main way that values are taught in our time. (Similar to how Voltaire and Camus wrote plays to communicate their ideas that were in hefty tomes that few people would read). To ignore this is to lose a voice in the public square, even if it is just at our office water cooler.
Conservatives are often defined by what we are against.
It might help to voice what we are for by talking about those values as depicted in some movies. And yes, explaining what we disagree with in the movie also.
Otherwise we are just yelling at everyone to get off our lawn.
We do. On the RARE occasions that Hollywood actually makes a movie reflecting those values. Which happens almost never.
Hollywood serves Hollywood! These decisions aren’t made in a vacuum!
“In February 2016, Rotten Tomatoes and its parent site Flixster were sold to Comcast’s Fandango.”
Wonder how much pursuing the SJW agenda has cost Hollywood. Not that they care, but just wondering because eventually the chickens will come home to roost.
All that Rotten Tomatoes did was to eliminate pre-screening “reviews”. This is a good thing. These “reviews” are not based upon the quality and content of a film. They are based upon extraneous factors, having nothing to do with the product.
Here is how the movie industry works. A studio spends a lot of money to produce a film. In order to recoup that investment, the film has to make money. This requires people to pay money to see the movie. As there are very, very few movies, which are good enough to get patrons to plop down the money for multiple viewings, to generate sustained viewership. People usually go to see a movie once. If the film is not worth viewing, patronage drops off quickly and the project loses money. In order to get people interested in seeing a movie, initially, the studio embarks on a positive public relations campaign. This includes trailers to stimulate a desire to see the movie, interview tours by the actors involved, and screenings for reviewers. All are geared to present the film in the best light possible to entice people to spend the money to see the film. However, the pre-screening ratings that RT was doing hurts the industry. People who have never seen the film and have no real idea whether it is any good or not are presenting opinions that the film, itself, is not worth viewing. As they have no way of knowing whether this is true or not, it is all baseless opinion. It plays into the lemming mentality.
Brie Larson is one person. Her opinion on ANYTHING should not be used to harm the thousands of people involved in a film production. I am sure that there are hundreds of people involved in the production who do not share her opinions. There are thousands of people involved in presenting the movie to the public [theater employees, and other support people] who do not share those opinions. Yet, they are all dependent upon the film doing well in order to pay their bills. Once you begin using political views to determine the survival of businesses, you have doomed the entire system. Because, then, only the “correct” businesses will survive.
I’ll repeat what I said to Milhouse. They weren’t reviews. People were asked if they want to see a certain film. In the case of this particular film, Captain Marvel, a lot of people said they didn’t want to see it, and wrote reasons why. They were allowed to write reasons, since until today, Rotten Tomatoes was considered a site that freely hosted audience opinions alongside critic opinions. They asked; the public answered. The studios didn’t like it. Here we are.
Please stop spreading this garbage about it being “reviews”. Journalists who either a) don’t know better, b) DO know better and want to make the system sound so stupid Rotten Tomatoes, the creator of said system, was forced and compelled to kill it, have been spreading this untruth. And, in spreading this untruth, the media turns it into a lie.
The rest is for Rotten Tomatoes to live with.
Offering an opinion on whether to watch a film of not is, essentially, a review. And, it is being offered without ever seeing the product.
Think of this from the point of view of any other business besides the entertainment industry; say, automobiles, software or major appliances. If you had people telling others that they would not buy a Chevy and, either did not give a reason or justified that decision because the CEO of GM had an affair, a reasonable person would probably discount that opinion. But, there is a significant Lemming Effect in our society, especially in our younger generations. If their peers have an opinion, then they line up to share it. Just look at modern politics.
What Rotten Tomatoes did was RESPONSIBLE. They still allow responsible opinions from people who have seen the film.
Wow.
Anybody that does anything supportive of Trump faces calls for them to be fired and boycotted.
Isn’t it amazing that when a liberal spews trash that we shouldn’t harm the people that theoretically don’t support their position.
Isn’t that magical?
Screw off. This is the rules liberals wanted. We are not going to have 2 sets of rules, one for liberals and one for conservatives.
Liberals have set the standard that when anybody has an opinion they don’t like they will be protested, boycotted, fired, and sued.
We will not have 2 sets of rules.
You have to take off the blinders.
Let’s say that you work for Acme Electronics. An independent contractor of the company verbally attacks a specific group of people. Should you lose your job, your house and life savings, because of that? Though your company produces the best television for the price in the world, should you suffer because some activists, who have never seen your product, trash it?
Politics is killing this country. All it does is poison the social environment. This is stupid. Rotten Tomatoes is not a political or ideological debate site. It is essentially a site which allows people to discuss entertainment. And, such discussions really require a person to be knowledgeable about the product under discussion. But, we have become so politicized that we attack anything any anyone who holds a different opinion than we do. If you are going to complain about liberals doing it, then you have to refrain from doing the same thing.
Complaining about “liberals doing it” has no effect on the behavior of liberals, other than making them redouble their efforts. We are already multiple hostile nations inside one set of borders, and they are not compatible. If one side [Leftists] are allowed, encouraged, and supported in attacking others while others are silenced, then the only response moves from words to violence, which may be what the Left wants. Or not. If the Left pays the freight for what they do and say, maybe they will moderate their conduct.
In the old Hollywood studio system, those who were privileged to be paid to act were held by contract to not do anything to likely to piss off the customers. That system is gone, although the Marvel movie universe is owned by Disney which still has those contract restrictions. They have chosen not to use them. And Actors work at pissing off the customers. They have freedom of speech, but the customers have the right to express their outrage, with ratings, words, and yes by not paying the money. If say Procter and Gamble works at insulting me or providing what I consider to be an inferior product, I have every right not to buy their products and tell others not to and why. Customers have the freedom of choice to decide themselves if they will pay to be attacked or insulted. There is nothing that says that stars, production companies, or their employees have the right to immunity from consequences of insulting those who pay them. If management does not try to protect their image from their end, they deserve the consequences.
There was a system that allowed prospective viewers to comment on their reasons, pro or con, on whether they were interested in seeing or not seeing a movie. Like anything involving the public, it may or may not make sense. But it is up to the viewing public to decide whether they accept the those reasons. That system has been shut down, because they did not like the public’s reasons or choices. Which itself is another insult to the public, and reason to ignore the movies that come out.
Subotai Bahadur
HAHA. Right, I’m the one with ‘blinders’ on.
Let’s pursue your ludicrous analogy.
When your ‘independent contractor’ insults and attacks your customers on a regular basis over a long period of time, you do NOTHING to stop it, issue no public statement against it, make NO apology to any of the customers insulted, and continue to employ that contractor after their behavior?
Yes, you absolutely should AND WILL face consequences, lose customers, and potentially go out of business.
“These “reviews” are not based upon the quality and content of a film. They are based upon extraneous factors, having nothing to do with the product.”
How is all the pre-release “buzz” about a movie… trailers, websites, and (yes) interviews and social media of the people involved “extraneous” to people wanting to see the film?
Because they have little of nothing to do with the product.
Let’s say that a noted communist produces and markets an elixir which will cure cancer. But, because he espouses communist ideas, people tell others not to use this elixir. Without ever investigating for themselves, they refuse to take the elixir. It punishes the producer of the elixir. But, it also harms the lemmings which inhabit our society.
Political correctness is killing the Marvel franchise for everyone but the SJW crowd.
Everything I watch is downloaded off the interwebz. Even then, I rarely make it through a recent feature film before getting bored. I want plot and not special effects. And even worse is product placement, where they come out with a new product or toy, and then build a movie around it.
I do UK mini-series mostly now for entertainment, and there are some decent more-indy US shows now, like Patriot, Counterpart, and Get-Shorty which are well above the mainstream US intelligence market. For movies, the last memorable one that I’ve seen is The Big Short, though Hollywood seemed to miss the fact that the affordable housing act is what created the whole fiasco to begin with. As my brother put it, 99% of the people who lost houses should not have had one to begin with. Who wants to bet that AOC will try to recreate that same scenario is given the chance?
I really like UK’s Time Team, 50 or so minute recaps of archaeology digs, or dives. They are fascinating. The show ran for 14 years, there are nearly 300 episodes. Two key people died from old age and the show ended in 2014.
The movies I see most are the Metropolitan Opera Live in HD films. Phenomenal! and no discssion of politics, unless it’s part of the plot. And the Met opera will in no way show that horrible “The Death of Klinghoeffer” – because they know half of their audience would never return.
The Death of Klinghoffer
I stated reading Captain Marvel comics in my cousin’s house (my parents never permitted comic books at home) when I was five; I was about seven when I agreed with my parents – it was trash.
Examine the basic concept:
Mr John Average is the lemishke being set upon by thugs, bullies, (and/or politicians,) and expecting to be saved (at any moment) by the ubiquitous Superman, Captain Marvel, Batman, or Wonder Woman. It’s a wonder that the Armed Services bother to keep enlisting offices open.
I agree:
the movies (and TV shows) establish/teach/promote cultural values.
I haven’t seen one since I was a kid that promoted belief in G-d,
strong family life, regular church attendance.
What I definitely haven’t seen is one that lauds the average man looking for and finding a place to stand on his own two feet; bystanders coming to help when he is attacked (think of UC Berkeley, think of the Christian baker).
I didn’t see Spider Man coming to the aid of Nick Sandmann; what I saw was one young man, feet firmly grounded, strong belief in G-d and in himself against a torrent of raging hate.
If Hollywood deigns to show a well-written film about this incident, I’ll be first in the ticket line.
Funny that after all the carping about Ghost in the Shell, we can expect the same from the SJW on Captain Marvel being, errr, pink washed?
Or perhaps the Rock can play as Diana in Wonder Woman 2? Not that I’d want that, Gal Godot rocked.
I will always take the Faucet/DC Captain Marvel as the “real thing”. All Marvel did was take the Trademark in the mid-sixties after the lawsuits between Faucet and DC. DC snapped up the Faucet properties. Now DC is calling their Captain Marvel “Shazam!” to avoid confusion. If you want to read a good use of Billy Batson, Read Alex Ross’s “Kingdom Come”. (I refuse to acknowledge that Religious Fascist “Waid” for any work he did on the work.
All I want to know is if Captain Marvel is a super cook.
I bet she can bring home the Skrull bacon and fry it up in a pan…
Same as Colon Crapernick suing the NFL for not hiring him despite the fact that the fans hate him and will not root for any team he is on. They are only supposed to weigh his supposed talent as a player, and the disgusting NFL paid off this sham suit!