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Michael Cohen pleads to lying to Congress about Trump Moscow Deal – Trump says Cohen is lying about lying

Michael Cohen pleads to lying to Congress about Trump Moscow Deal – Trump says Cohen is lying about lying

“He’s lying, very simply, to get a reduced sentence.” — Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJWhIW_b0A8

Thursday, former Trump attorney Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to lying to Congress. Cohen was involved in a potential real estate deal to build a Trump Tower in Russia. The deal never happened.

Cohen claims he lied to Congress by downplaying his role in the Trump Tower deal and contact with the Kremlin.

From the NYT:

Michael D. Cohen, President Trump’s former lawyer, who pleaded guilty in August to breaking campaign finance laws, made a surprise appearance in a Manhattan courtroom on Thursday morning and pleaded guilty to a new criminal charge, the latest turn in the special counsel’s investigation of Mr. Trump and his inner circle.

At the court hearing, Mr. Cohen admitted to making false statements to Congress about his efforts to build a Trump Tower deal in Moscow during the 2016 presidential campaign. That real estate deal has been a focus of the special counsel investigation into whether the Trump campaign conspired with Russian operatives.

In written testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee, Mr. Cohen played down the extent of his contact with the Kremlin about the potential project and made other false statements about the negotiations, which never led to a final deal.

…The new guilty plea in Federal District Court marks the first time the office of the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, has charged Mr. Cohen. In exchange for pleading guilty and continuing to cooperate with Mr. Mueller, he may hope to receive a lighter sentence than he otherwise would.

From the plea deal:

Trump gave a public statement about Cohen’s plea Thursday morning:

Criminal information here:

Michael Cohen Criminal Information – Lying to Congress by Legal Insurrection on Scribd

Plea deal here:

Michael Cohen Plea Agreement – Lying to Congress by Legal Insurrection on Scribd

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JusticeDelivered | November 29, 2018 at 11:55 am

Does this mean no pardon for Cohen?

    Whatever happened to Attorney-Client privilege.. How is Cohen able to divulge to a prosecutor the legal advice he gave to Trump?

    Just a few short months ago – Attorney – Client privilege was so important at Justice. Justice even let one of Madam almost President’s aides sit in on an interview as her instant Attorney.

    Stunning

      If that was going to be an issue, it would have been an issue for the search warrants. It wasn’t. Now that Cohen has “admitted” that his legal advice to Trump was in furtherance of crimes, of course it won’t be privileged. He’s a mob lawyer, so privilege doesn’t apply. Of course it won’t.

      They’re going all the way with this.

        iowan2 in reply to JBourque. | November 29, 2018 at 7:12 pm

        Could you please name that crime? I’ve been asking lots of people for 2 years and no one is brave enough to commit to a named crime You seem smart, you’ll name the crime, right?

        countrylaw in reply to JBourque. | November 29, 2018 at 7:21 pm

        This isn’t about law, it’s about politics.

        The privilege belongs to the client. It is very unusual for an attorney to provide prosecutors with open ended access to what he claims were his communications with his client. Even John Gotti’s Attorney, Bruce Cutler never did that, despite even more intense pressure from Federal Prosecutors. In fact the Judge in the Gotti case gave Cutler some measure of protection from prosecutors even though he was sanctioned.

        If Mueller is not in full compliance with Rule 502, a new and aggressive Attorney-General can come back at with 18 U.S.C. 242 allegations.

        But this is politics not law. Mueller is looking for anything to take down Trump and he does not care how he gets it. The information is to give to Congress for an impeachment, not for a Court.

    If Mr. Integrity – Bob Mueller and his cohorts at Justice are so concerned about Russian Real Estate deals, why doesn’t they look at Uranium One in a meaningful way?

    If Mr. Integrity – Bob Mueller and his cohorts at Justice are so concerned about Russian Real Estate deals, why doesn’t they look at Uranium One in a meaningful way?

I’m not a lawyer so maybe I’m missing something here.
These things are used to apply leverage as they move up the food chain but so far there doesn’t seem to be anything that leads to the President, family, or the campaign itself.
Maybe he has information on other people to be charged or something that will bring pressure on someone else but collusion by Trump or his campaign hasn’t been shown.
How much of this same type of pressure or this level of scrutiny could the Clinton family and campaign undergo without any smoking gun?

Making false statements to Congress. LOL.

    buckeyeminuteman in reply to Fen. | November 29, 2018 at 12:28 pm

    Pretty sure that was the modus operandi of the Obama Admin.

    CDR D in reply to Fen. | November 29, 2018 at 6:02 pm

    Clapper lied about spying on the American people. He ought to face a firing squad.

    Cohen lies about a real estate deal? Yawn.

    Mueller is a dirty cop and needs to be shitcanned.

OT but related, If Mueller is not doing anything wrong, why does he need protection???

if they want Cohen to testify against Trump why not give him immunity, like they did for the people surrounding Hillary??

And there is something wrong about Trump pursuing an opportunity for a Trump branding in Moscow? I thought that was his business before he was elected.

And here comes the difference between singing and composing. I suspect the conversation went somewhat like this (paraphrased):

Prosecution: “Tell us you told Trump about the Russia meeting before it happened.”
Cohen: “But I didn’t tell him.”
Prosecution: “Then we’ll put you in jail for a century and bankrupt your family.”
Cohen: “Um… When did you want me to say I told him?”

Still no charges of collusion or interference in the election. Is Mueller going after unpaid parking tickets next?

Connivin Caniff | November 29, 2018 at 1:39 pm

“Lying to Congress”? – I thought the D’Rats give their people a merit badge for doing that.

So….how does a Trump Tower real estate deal that didn’t go through equal collusion with Russia to win the US Presidential election?

Well if you only followed the BBC you would think it’s now only a matter of days before Hillary is sworn in as President.

Well, I’m convinced this absolutely isn’t what many have said – Mueller operating as some sort of Deep State operative. He obviously believes he’s doing the right thing. Only a true believer goes this far, to prosecute what Alan Dershowitz calls crimes that would not have existed save for Mueller’s appointment as Special Counsel.

He seems to truly, deeply believe that Manafort was either employed as a Russian agent of influence himself, or traded favors with other people who were, and therefore hiring him was tantamount to putting an agent of the KGB in as manager of the Trump campaign. Mueller just can’t buy the simple explanation – Manafort was a political mercenary willing to work for Ukrainian quasi-dictators, and even stoop to the likes of Donald Trump. (As Washington sees it, mind.) Therefore, he just has to shake the tree hard enough and long enough until people admit to what Mueller “knows” to be true.

    Well, I’m convinced Mueller is corrupt to the very core.
    I’m convinced Mueller would do anything he thinks he can get away with to convict Trump and protect Clinton.
    I’m convinced Mueller is a crook, one that should be in jail in a truly just society.

    Our system of justice is broken. People like Mueller are the breakers.

No one goes into a relationship with Trump and leaves the better for it … they all end up getting f****d. Why anyone associates with Trump in any way is beyond me.

    iowan2 in reply to PODKen. | November 29, 2018 at 7:23 pm

    You just stepped in it, without knowing. All of this serves several different objectives. One is warning anyone that might go to work for President Trump, that their livlyhood is at risk. The deep state will dig deep and go as far as bribing people to put themselves at risk and lie, to frame you for some horrible thing, like making out with a girl at a party when you were sixteen.
    You’ve got Pappadopolus and Carter Page. Framed for having the nerve to work on a political campaign. Its a warning about supporting President Trump.
    And the this whole thing is a warning to any outsider that would dare to come to DC without being invited.

      PODKen in reply to iowan2. | December 1, 2018 at 5:17 pm

      Nope … I din’t step in nothin. Sure … the legal system and media is having their way with some of Trump’s people … but Trump has also slandered and canned lots of his own appointee’s and associates.

      Trump wants you to be loyal to him but he won’t return the favor. Trump doesn’t have anyone’s back. Anyone that deals with him is on their own. That’s my point.

Lying to Congress…? A Crime.

Lying while a member of Congress…? Business as usual.

Michael Cohen has established at least one fact.

Namely, that he’s a worm.

This intense pressure applied by Mueller & Co. to get people to name names (and the closer to Mr T. the better) smells remarkably like a reborn McCarthysism.

Mueller seems desperate to get something, somehow, by whatever means are necessary.

Nothing illegal and Cohen couldn’t get in contact with Russian officials. This proves once again there was no contact between Trump and Russia.

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