California DMV: 1,500 People Wrongly Registered to Vote, Including Non-Citizens
DMV registering voters – what possibly could go wrong?
The California Motor Voter program was promoted as a way to make registering to vote at the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) more convenient. Eligible applicants would completing a driver license, identification (ID) card or change of address transaction with the DMV, and then would be automatically registered to vote by the California Secretary of State (unless they choose to opt out),
The new rule is as successful as I anticipated. The only law that really works in California is the one involving unintended consequences.
California’s top elections official said Tuesday he doesn’t yet know if any of the roughly 1,500 people mistakenly registered to vote by the Department of Motor Vehicles cast ballots in the June primary.
Secretary of State Alex Padilla said his office is investigating and working with counties to ensure ineligible people don’t vote in the November election.
The roughly 1,500 people either told the DMV they were ineligible or didn’t confirm their eligibility but were registered anyway, he said. The group included at least one non-citizen living legally in the state and perhaps many more. It could also include people under 18 or those ineligible to vote because of a criminal conviction, Padilla said. The DMV said none of the people mistakenly registered are people living in the country illegally.
One of those improperly registered is a Canadian.
One Canadian national who’s lived in the U.S. 31 years told the Los Angeles Times that he knew it was a mistake when he was told he was newly registered to vote.
“When I saw that card, I just threw it out,” Randall Marquis said. “I know I’m not going to vote. I’m not allowed to vote, it’s stupid that I should be registered to vote.”
How many are going to retain that registration and vote in the upcoming election? Those of us who value our legal votes, and do not want them cancelled by non-citizens, are deeply concerned. The situation is so bad that Padilla is shifting the full blame on the DMV:
Calling it unacceptable, Secretary of State Alex Padilla angrily criticized Department of Motor Vehicles officials Tuesday after they improperly registered about 1,500 people to vote in November’s election.
Padilla did not mince words when it came to the error.
“These mistakes from the DMV are totally unacceptable,” he told reporters. “It risks jeopardizing confidence in the electoral process which is why yesterday I called for an independent audit of the DMV’s technology and their practices…The DMV needs to get it together here real quick.”
This news comes hard on the heels of the revelation the DMV botched another 23,000 registrations.
The state Department of Motor Vehicles incorrectly registered 23,000 people to vote, including putting the wrong political party and vote-by-mail preferences for those Californians, the embattled agency said.
…It said the errors occurred when DMV technicians had more than one customer record open on a computer at the same time, causing those records to merge. Updated software and staff training will prevent the mistake from occurring again, DMV officials said.
The errors also included signing people up to vote who did not register and putting the wrong language preference. The DMV said none of the errors involved undocumented immigrants, who are eligible to sign up for driver’s licenses.
Given the ease and efficiency normally experienced by those dealing with motor vehicle departments, most people would have projected that the Motor Voter law would be full of fail. Perhaps it was suppose to be a feature and not a bug, as failure seems to be the only constant factor in California’s recent laws and regulations.
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I bet there are far more than 1500 illegals voting.
At least that many in each and every zip code.
I believe there is prior litigation preventing illegal expansion of voter rolls, and diluting legitimate voters’ rights.
Anyone have capacity to research?
The only law that really works in California is the one involving unintended consequences.
It would be rash to think there’s anything “unintended” about this.
It said the errors occurred when DMV technicians had more than one customer record open on a computer at the same time
That would have been a good excuse, perhaps . . . back about 1985.
The DMV said none of the errors involved undocumented immigrants
Hahahaha, sure. And Lucy jerks the football again.
1500 my butt, more like 1,500,000!
1,500,000 my butt, more like 15,000,000!
I live in Sonoma county, CA. It is a very blue area. Voting is usually 70% democrat. Today the local paper had three articles. Here are the headlines.
1. “California election official can’t say if non-citizens voted”
2. “California DMV: Non-citizens may be registered to vote”
3. “Editorial: More people have registered to vote, now more must actually vote”
It seems to me they are signaling blue folks that they can and should vote without consequences.
If you believe this is the first time this kind of thing has occurred, I should remind you that there is still time to get in on the bidding for a classic bridge at the entrance to SF bay. Where do you think all those Hillary votes came from…?
This whole voter-motor stuff, the automatic registration crap, has to stop. If a person cannot summon the energy to appear at the Registrar of Voters, or the City Clerk, and register to vote, then they have no business exerting any influence on the operations of government.
The notion of using the DMV was ok, before the State lawmakers allowed illegal aliens to get driver’s licenses.
No, it wasn’t. This whole issue has nothing to do with illegal aliens. None of the people mistakenly registered were illegal aliens. This is about legal aliens, and others who either shouldn’t vote or don’t want to. (Of course those who don’t want to vote won’t, whether they’re registered or not, so you could think there’s no harm in registering them, but it lets someone else vote in their name.)
Why do you think it has nothing to do with illegal aliens? Why would they be any less likely to vote–especially the ‘dreamer’ types who feel entitled? At any rate, people not eligible to vote being enrolled to vote–PRE.DIC.TED. by so many when they announced the DMV would be doing this!!
It has nothing to do with illegal aliens being given licenses because legal aliens and other people ineligible to vote have always been entitled to licenses, and should be. There is no reason in the world why a legal alien should not be allowed to drive a car. Therefore an inadequately monitored motor voter system (and they all are) is just as much a menace whether illegal aliens get licenses or not.
It also has nothing to do with illegal aliens because none are involved in this story. The announcement, which is the entire basis of this discussion, explicitly says that while they don’t know how many of the people who were inadvertently registered to vote are aliens, they do know that none were illegal. The most obvious way they would know that is because illegal aliens get a different license from other Californians, and that license doesn’t hook up to the motor voter system.
The problem is and remains that many people who quite properly get licenses are not eligible to vote, and many more who are eligible have no intention of ever voting, and none of those should be registered to vote.
That doesn’t appear to be the same argument you were making in January.
What? Milhouse lies? Impossible I say!
Just keep him away from icepicks. He gets violent around them.
I didn’t say that. I just said that it appeared inconsistent. I don’t know what he’s read or seen since then that might have changed his opinion.
How does it differ? Please remind me.
I don’t lie. tphillip definitely lies.
As you state that no illegal aliens were registered to vote, you apparently you believe the official denial by the people in charge of the agency which screwed up over 24,000 voter registrations. What, in that track record, causes you to have faith in their denial?
Since the only evidence we have that anything went wrong in the first place is their statement, all we can do is take it at its word. Either we believe it or reject it, but you want to do both at the same time, which is illogical.
More like 1.5 million.
Intentional democrat packing of voter rolls by ineligible/illegal voters along with open borders, sanctuary cities, and restoration of felons’ votes–all done to cancel out legitimate Republican votes and illegally elect democrat candidates, laws, and concepts !!! ABJ
This information only applied to legal immigrants. Realizing how licenses are given to illegal aliens and how many more illegal aliens there are as compared to legal ones, then it boggles the mind how anyone could argue with a straight face that there is no evidence of concern about illegal voting or voter fraud.
There are more illegal aliens than legal ones?! Where did you get that information. It doesn’t seem reasonable.
In any case the driver’s license CA gives to illegal aliens doesn’t hook up to the motor voter system, so it’s not a concern in this context.
And are we not suppose to notice that this story coincides with the growing calls to abolish the electoral college.
This article is a plant. It’ll be used later as anecdotal evidence. “See? Only one recorded instance of an illegal voter registration. It’s not really a problem after all.”
Go to the registrar of voters for California and literally anyone can register to vote because homeless people have the right to vote too. Setup a mailboxes etc account in the area then have your mail-in ballot forwarded to your house In jerkassistan.
This story mentioned people being signed up for the wrong party. How convenient is that; somebody requests Republicans and ends up only being able to get a Democrat ballot. I’m sure it definitely doesn’t work the other way around.
CA does not have partisan primaries, so that is a complete non-issue.
Oh, and in other states it definitely does happen the other way around. In NY it happens to Democrats all the time. I work the polls, so I see it happening. Democrats come to vote in D primaries and find they’re not registered as Ds.
I guess this proves they really CAN find their way to the office if we issued voter IDs!
I would assume that nearly every alien, felon, minor, and anyone else ineligible to vote, if they passed through a California DMV office, is registered — hundreds of thousands, maybe millions.
“DMV registering voters – what possibly could go wrong?”
WHAT COULD GO RIGHT ????
In principle “motor voter” could work. But it’s very unlikely to, so it’s no surprise that it hasn’t.