Mueller should go public now about the President, or go home
Anti-Trump media has created a permanent crisis news cycle based on the Mueller probe that has people at each other’s throats – If Mueller has the goods on Trump he should say so, or announce there’s no there there.
Robert Mueller did not start Trump Derangement Syndrome. That started before the 2016 election, but went ballistic when Trump won.
#TheResistance movement immediately went into crisis attack mode, trying to intimidate Electors and to delegitimize the election result.
At every stage the media has played a critical role in arguing that Trump colluded with the Russians to steal the election.
The Steele Dossier, perhaps the most successful opposition disinformation project in memory, served to provide fodder for the evidence-free accusations against Trump. The dossier was a collusive effort between the Clinton campaign and DNC, on the one hand, and Russian sources who supposedly fed information to Steele.
With the connivance of the Obama intelligence and law enforcement apparatus, the dossier helped perpetuate the collusion narrative in the endless media news cycles. Leaks about otherwise casual and non-substantive “contacts” between Trump campaign officials or supporters and Russians were a weekly news mania. That hysteria created the public crisis atmosphere in which Jeff Sessions recused himself because of his “contacts” with Russians, even though there is zero evidence Sessions did anything wrong.
But the Steele dossier lacked media legs because the key allegations in the document were unsubstantiated. That’s where Mueller comes in.
Since Mueller was appointed in May 2017, after James Comey was fired as FBI Director, we have been in a perpetual 3-5 day “scoop” news cycle based on the Mueller probe.
For over a year barely a week goes by that some publication doesn’t publish a “scoop” about what Mueller is thinking, who his team is talking to, what they might do or might not do, and so on. The Mueller probe is the media gift that keeps giving, usually based on anonymous sources.
Just as each breathless and frequently demonstrably inaccurate media firestorm has died down — Wait, another Big Scoop. Let’s start a new news cycle. It never ends, and will not end so long as Mueller is investigating Trump, whether Trump is a “subject” or a “target” or something else.
The nation has suffered this media-driven Mueller probe gaslighting to the point that there is an increasing likelihood of serious violence.
You see it everywhere. #TheResistance, prodded daily by media “scoop” hysteria, is ready to fight — literally — the grave threat Trump the supposed “traitor” presents.
There is anger all around. I’ve never sensed what I sense now. Things are coming apart, and I blame the permanent crisis news cycle in substantial part.
Mueller is not to blame for the media. But he can’t ignore how his investigation is being exploited. Mueller has had over a year to investigate Trump. The FBI and intelligence services have been investigating Trump for over two years. If there is a there there, they should know it by now. So far, nothing has been publicly revealed.
This is not the usual criminal investigation, where time is not of the essence. And the investigation of Trump is qualitatively different than the investigation of others.
If Mueller has the goods on the President, he should tell the nation now what those goods are.
If Mueller has nothing on the President, he should say so now to put an end to the media madness that is driving the nation to fratricide.
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What makes you think that the Democrats don’t want chaos? Isn’t that the moment when most of our liberties are lost, sometimes permanently? When there’s a “crisis?”
“…he should say so now to put an end to the media madness…”
Mueller and his merry band of crooks like the media madness. That’s part of their “job”.
All of Müeller’s Leftist lawyers will continue to draw big pay checks as long as this “investigation” is ongoing. I expect it will continue until Jan 20 2025.
all you hear from the msm AND smith (FNC) is that mueller, comey
etc are REPUBLICANS what they do not say is that is that they are NeverTrumpers DeepState with agendas!
They all worked for law firms and drew large salaries. It’s about power and the ability to screw with people they hate.
Muller was illegitimate from inception. He has no intention of closing up shop without scalps, and has every intent of getting the largest scalp – Trump’s.
It is becoming increasingly clear that Muller is out to squeeze Trump associates and force them to fabricate “evidence” out of whole cloth, thereby committing prosecutorial crimes.
Trump should take no mercy on Muller’s entire goon squad, and imprison them all once the full scope of spygate/deep state corruption is revealed.
Muller needs to spend the rest of his natural life in prison, along with Brennan, Clapper, and others.
Yes the illegitimacy of Mueller is not debatable and began day one. Plus Mueller likes to win no matter how dirty he needs to be. I favor harsh retribution against Mueller, Rosenstein, Sessions, and other key participants.
Just curious why you think it’s more awful now vs., say, 6 months ago or a year ago? Not saying you’re wrong, Prof. I’m just saying I don’t know what you’re sensing. Maybe it’s because I’ve unplugged myself from all TV news and don’t read the constant BS over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over from leftist activists pretending to be journalists.
I like to think I know what’s going on in America in a general sense, but I’m willing to concede that perhaps I may not.
It’s bad, but from what I remember 1967 and 1968 were a lot worse.
I would tend to agree except back then there wasn’t the constant social media mobs to make things worse.
Let one of the twitidiots read a headline or hear a talking point and they are outraged, vile and near insane. I’ve never seen anything quite like it and I’ve been watching politics a very long time.
My favorite site. New here. I absolutely love love this site and glad to be a part of it finally. I will be posting from New Jersey, that sick State. In NJ if anyone is interested, we have Dereal (real name no kidding) from Plainfield and nj.com posted this news:
“A Plainfield man was arrested Saturday on a felony charge accusing him of making threats on social media targeting U.S. Rep. Chris Smith.
Dereal Finklin, 43, is charged with making terroristic threats and is being held at the Monmouth County Correctional Institute in Freehold.”
Later on in the article does it state finally state that Rep. Chris Smith is a republican.
I’ve made comments about this and my comments are banned from NJ.com. I’ll share those here if you will entertain them. I’d like to be a NJ contributor when I can. Anyway, here it is: (I stole the this from Gateway Pundit.)
Just repeating what President Obama said and nj.com red boxes {meaning they won’t or disabled my comments} it. Why? Not lies.
** Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”
** Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
** Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
** Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard”
** Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose *** to kick.“
** Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat“
** Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
** Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”
** Obama to supporters: “I’m itching for a fight.”
Obama to UAW mob: “Fight for me!”
Talk about treasonous scum…
“We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
– Beta Barry
What a pathetic, sick f–k.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s
That statement was particularly troubling, scary and an eye into the soul of an evil man.
Obama wasn’t Dereal thing.
Leftists always, eventually, resort to violence, threats of violence, or glorification of violence to advance their wicked agenda. Always.
One more thought on this specific topic and may have been made before, if so, excuse me. Remember when MSM, particularly when Morning Joe (MSNBC) gave Trump such a soft platform on its show? Basically propping up Trump? I do, cause I switched channels all the time to see who what was saying what. I knew, while I was skanking myself up for work, what Morning Joe and his ugly on the inside sidekick were doing … they wanted MAGA Trump to win and thought that witch Hillary would win against MAGA Trump. SAD for Morning Joe … Didn’t work out like you thought. Ha.
Morning Joe still not over it how it BACKFIRED. Ha.
Morning Joke.
Prof, he can’t end the probe.
The libs/progs/establishment will either punish him severely or kill him if he doesn’t setup an impeachment of Trump.
That is the same story for all the prosecutors on his staff.
That is why they are now trying to force Cohen ( Trumps old personal lawyer ) to manufacture the evidence they need.
Cohen is deliberately destroying his creditably in the courts. ( the tapes Cohen released )
What good is forged evidence coming from someone who has no creditably?
Interesting theory on Cohen destroying his credibility…….
He is between a rock and hard place. That would be clever.
When determining somebody’s goals, it is far more effective to look at their actions than to listen to their words (in the long run)
*IF* Mueller’s goals were as stated, to search for any evidence of foreign governmental assaults on the US election system, he would be working with the various states to check on evidence of hacking attack from outside, working with both main parties to examine their servers with a neutral, secure team of intrusion analysts, and tracking any international hacking groups to see if they had been snooping around. The end result would be a much more secure election system with voter validation at the voting end all the way to the final counts.
That’s not what is happening.
Instead, we have a case of an investigative team being handed two points (Russians hacked the election, and Trump conspired with them), and attempting to draw a somewhat squiggly, crooked, odd-looking line between them.
That is not an investigation. That is a frame job. And if we had President Hillary, the frame would have been perfect and the message unmistakable: “Don’t get in the way of a Clinton or you’ll be sorry.”
Anyone who does not realize it is a frame job has a judgement problem.
No, the probe will continue through the mid-terms. And the frequency of the “scoops” will intensify as the election approaches. All to serve the greater political good, you understand.
If the left does not take the House and/or Senate, expect Mueller’s Merry Band to continue as long as Trump is in the White House.
It’s leverage the left can’t afford to give up.
Mueller has been tainted from the start. Comey set this whole thing up because of being butt hurt over being fired, over Hillary not being elected. Mueller knew about the Russian payments to Hillary through Bill’s speaking fees and “donations” to the Clinton Foundation of millions of dollars, which Putin spoke about, yet allowed the sale to go through. The ties between Mueller and Comey run deep.
This is a cover up of a lot of criminal behavior by the prior administration, and Rosenstein – who was also heavily involved – along with Mueller are put in charge of this so called investigation to find a crime to pin on Trump, which isn’t how the whole thing is supposed to work. And Sessions recusing himself so quickly and handing it over to Rosenstein who should have been recused for his actions and roles in the FISA deal to spy on Trump’s campaign, yeah, I smell a bunch of crap with this all this.
Mueller is a rat, and he has one job, on real job, and that is to effect a coup against the sitting President while passing the crimes of the prior administration onto Trump.
What are you talking about? Rosenstein spent the 0bama years as a US Attorney in Maryland. How could he have been involved with any of this stuff?
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Shut your filthy disgusting mouth. You have no right to fling accusations you know to be false. Unless you’re so stupid that you don’t know what a bot is, and are just using it as a random insult, which you also have no right to do.
Rosenstein, along with Andrew McCabe, supervised the investigation into the Russian bribery scheme tied to the decision approved by Hillary’s State Dept. to allow Russia to purchase Uranium One. That investigation began in 2009 when Mueller was FBI director, and ended in late 2015, when Comey was director. The connections between Rosenstein and the other major players in this saga are long and deep.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/22398/report-robert-mueller-was-fbi-director-when-agency-ryan-saavedra
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/452972/uranium-one-deal-obama-administration-doj-hillary-clinton-racketeering
Don’t forget this one.
Yes, for those who were previously unaware of Rod Rosenstein’s key role in the Obama-era Russian bribery/uranium scam, this article is helpful in filling in some of the details. It explains why the DOJ/FBI investigation was centered in Maryland (that’s where Russia’s state energy company had its U.S. arm headquartered), and it also shows how the crooked Clintons cashed in (to the tune of $145 million in “donations” to the Clinton Foundation, according to Newsweek) by selling then-SOS Hillary’s influence in getting the Uranium One deal approved, despite the deal being clearly contrary to the U.S.’s national security interests.
We know what the Clintons got for selling out our country (lots and lots of cash). We still don’t know what people like Rod Rosenstein got for their work in hiding the evidence from congress and the American people. But hopefully someday all of these corrupt actors will be exposed for what they’ve done.
This is not your personal forum to interrogate other posters, especially after you have been caught in several major inaccuracies. Oldgoat did not mention the Obama years, you dnd. Consider trying to understand the history of RR, and crimes committed in Maryland, especially, try to understand what RR has done in the Trump years.
You filthy liar. Name one.
I’m still waiting for your apology and acknowledgment that every word I wrote about aliens and conscription was the exact truth, and you had no right to accuse me of lying.
Liar. Oldgoat’s exact words are right up there, where everyone can see them: “This is a cover up of a lot of criminal behavior by the prior administration, and Rosenstein – who was also heavily involved”. Rosenstein could not have been involved in any behavior by the prior administration.
“This is a cover up of a lot of criminal behavior by the prior administration, and Rosenstein – who was also heavily involved”
Hmmm getting even more suspicious since you were unable to comprehend the meaning of “and” before spouting off. It should have been clear once pointed out to you. I know bots have trouble with that sort of thing.
Duh, Milhouse, Rosenstein signed the last application for the renewal of the FISA warrant. Look at the FISA warrant applications. His big fat signature is right there.
Which had what to do with the prior administration?
It continued their malfeasance.
Read up, imbecile
https://themarketswork.com/2018/08/02/revisiting-the-page-fisa-applications-james-wolfe-indictment/
At this point Mueller has NOTHING, but will never, EVER voluntarily end his investigation. The entire investigation was predicated on the projection of the Democrats who ASSUMED that an exhaustive investigation of Trump would yield enough crimes to put him away forever – because that’s exactly what would happen if they actually did an investigation of Hillary, Obama, or any of dozens of Democrats in office. But to their shock – they found NOTHING.
At this point Mueller’s sole goal is to goad Trump into firing him so the Democrats can scream about ‘obstruction’.
Why do you think they did that bullshit raid on Cohen’s office? Rosenstein gave the game away when he was caught saying that he ‘expected’ to be fired.
They WANT Trump to fire Mueller and Rosenstein. They have nothing else.
Trump needs to see his supporters stay in control of the House, and expand their margin in the Senate in November. Any move before the election risks that, so I believe he’s stuck for now. But if he comes out of that election in stronger shape politically, then he’ll be able to fire Rosenstein and Mueller the next day.
There is one possible early exit – if the Manafort Trial goes as badly for the prosecution as it looks like it’s going, that may give Trump the political backing to go ahead and end it all early.
The Mueller investigation has one overriding purpose – to continue to provide “active investigation” coverage to the weasels in the DOJ and FBI who have been trying to overthrow a legitimate election. E.g. congressional testimony of Strozk, McCabe, etc. With the Mueller investigation active, they can claim that they can’t answer the congressional or other questions due to “investigation”. Neat, but diabolical, strategy… All the rest is chaff and countermeasures…
If Mueller didn’t have case against Trump before today, he has one after he ordered Sessions to shut down the investigation. The lies keep spewing from his Twitter, his mouth and Rudy’s mouth.
How difficult is it for a rule-of-law conservative law professor continue to not recognize that Trump can only talk about himself and repeat “No Collusion.” Turn your investigative skills onto the man’s past and you will need a staff of hundreds just to stay with his lies and his dishonesty. And ask why he says he has not done deals with Russians when we know that negotiations for a Trump Tower in Moscow continued into the campaign.
And how much money did he borrow from Russian Oligarchs for golf course purchases and how many Florida and NYC buildings are financed through Russian money-launderers.
If Donald continues to own his businesses, in violation of he constitution, the American economy will will move toward the genius kleptocracy that Putin installed in Russia – starting with Mnuchin’s proposal to lower taxes (again in less than a year) on Donald’s authority.
blah…blah…blah..
Where were you on Uranium One.
Probably in on it.
After Obama, Trump is so refreshing 🙂 It is long past time to clean up, and clean out both the FBI and DOJ. People involved in systematic disruption of Trump’s presidency should be charged and spend some time in jail.
Hilarious.
Please provide evidence showing Trump ordered Sessions to “shut down” the illegal investigation.
In the end, it comes down to Trump choosing whether to fire an FBI director, or to speak about his law enforcement preferences without actually ordering people to prosecute or not prosecute specific individuals, constitutes obstruction of justice because the FBI and DOJ ought to be independent from the executive branch, which would also make them almost fully independent from the legislative and judicial branches as well.
If that is the world people want to live in, be my guest. I see problems with this approach, but Mueller is now the ultimate champion of this vision of law enforcement independence. If it means law enforcement can and should depose a President, let’s have that debate in public. There’s no need to nibble at the edges.
Think about this for one moment. Mueller has the power to go after anyone no matter if it has anything to do with this investigation and can use that acquired information to then threaten that person that he will go after his children if he doesn’t cooperate. Is this America? WTF has happened to the people who protect and serve?
Bureaucracies always evolve to serve bureaucrats interests before serving any other purpose.
Desperate men require desperate measures. Hillary said it best, “If Trump wins, we all hang from nooses.”
They do this because they can’t afford not to do it.
No, she didn’t. It’s a stupid lie, apparently invented by some nobody rumormonger called Bill Still, and spread by gullible paranoid freaks who will believe anything about someone they don’t like, no matter how unlikely, and without demanding any evidence at all.
This pseudo investigation will not end until, at the very minimum, after the mid-term elections. The dinosaur media need all the selective “outrage” they can gin up. I have read that the negative/positive ratio for Trump coverage is 90/10. I am not surprised.
We have a psuedo AG.
If I remember correctly, Mueller was tasked with investigating Russian interference with the 2016 election. This investigation has raised the following questions in my mind.
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1. If Russian interference in the 2016 election was to be investigated, then why has no effort been made to investigate the efforts of Hillary Clinton being pursued? It was Clinton who paid for the Trump dossier, it was Clinton who took money from Russians and others illegally, it was the Clinton campaign who appeared to violate so many other lases…. It would seem that focusing solely upon Trump’s behavior would be a dereliction of duty and a reason to terminate Mueller.
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2. Congress started a ten month investigation of Trump and Mueller has been at it for well over a year for a combined total of 2 years. If nothing has been found after 2 years, then what causes us to think that there is anything there to find?
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3. Since nothing concerning the Russians and Trump working together has been found, then what is the justification to expand the probe to include so many other areas? Increasingly this is becoming an investigation in search of a crime.
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4. Since the Mueller instigation was founded on fabricated “evidence” then what justification is there to continue? The Trump Dossier was opposition research created and paid for by the Democrats. Information coming from various wire taps were obtained (apparently) by using a dishonest FISA application and, even then, nothing incriminating was found. If the premise behind the investigation has been found to be fabricated, if nothing has been found after two years, and nothing appears to be on the orizon, then what justification is there to continue?
The minuscule investment the Russians made in trying to gin up some chaos in or from the 2016 election has paid off far beyond their wildest dreams – thanks to the Democrats and MSM (but I repeat myself). I disagree with the idea that the Russians “interfered with” the election because I believe that terminology infers some degree of success and they most certainly didn’t effect any difference in the electoral outcome. And they would not have had any effect on the new administration but for the efforts of the MSM and their political arm, the Democrat Party.
My suspicion is that Trump is waiting for the Manafort trial to fizzle.
After that he will order a Special prosecutor to investigate the handling of the Mueller investigation, and all sorts of other things.
( Including the immunity of Tony Podesta. ). Either that or outright
fire Mueller.
I have heard speculation that Manafort is planning on calling Rod Rosenstein as his first witness, suppose that is so. Imagine that the judge gives Manafort a bit of latitude in questioning.
The Manafort trial so far is bizarre, to put it mildly. Tax evasion cases are usually fairly dry and mathematical – the prosecution brings in the income statements, the bank statements, and the tax statements, and says “here’s the income earned, here’s the income declared, here’s the actual tax paid (if any), and here’s what should have been paid.” Usually all very precise and cut and dried.
But instead in this trial there is all of this sensationalism, Look at the suits he bought! Look at the houses he built!!! Okay, well prosecutor, you’ve got to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he didn’t pay taxes on that income, go ahead, prove it. That’s your job.
If a prosecutor can provide proof of income on which taxes were not paid, then there’s no purpose to making someone testify as to what a Pergola is. (that happened yesterday) And on the other hand, if he CAN’T provide legal proof of income, then all of this lifestyle stuff is incompetent showboating that should result in an acquittal.
I’m starting to suspect that Mueller has no actual, court admissible evidence of the crimes he has alleged.
Tom Servo, I agree with you. All this testimony about irrelevant matters certainly makes it appear no admissible evidence exists to prove Mueller’s case.
And apparently, the judge is keeping prosecutors on a tight leash.
All of that is an effort to influence the Jurors against Manafort, nothing more, nothing less. The Judge reined the prosecution in some on that, prohibiting the further use of the term “oligarch”, etc. Mueller’s Democrats have a history of dirty prosecution, I expect they will keep the Judge on his toes to catch all they try.
That is incorrect. The lifestyle stuff is evidence of undeclared income. The prosecution can’t provide direct proof of the income, because it was (allegedly) earned overseas, and obviously the Ukranian government did not file W9 forms with the IRS! But if they can show that he’s spending all this money overseas, which isn’t coming from his declared bank accounts and can’t be accounted for by his declared income, then they can ask the jury to infer that he had undeclared income of approximately the amount they allege.
What happens if M clears Trump? If the partisan witchhunt by democrats actually results in no related charges. What happens then.
Re: Unommin:
I think the question not relevant because Mueller has been squeezing Manafort and Cohen so hard for them to flip, that it’s clear he’s desperate. I don’t think Mueller has it in him to admit Trump is clean…. even if Trump is clean.
So Mueller gets fired one way or the other, because I don’t see Mueller letting go of this as hard as he is still pushing.
I must say, the Cohen tape was such a nothingburger, if I were Mueller, I’d be embarrassed to have sunk to that level. How unprofessional and inept!!
What do you think of this- Judge Napolitano says Manafort was exonerated 8 years ago- may call Rosenstein as witness:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/judge-napolitano-doubles-down-says-paul-manafort-was-exonerated-8-years-ago-may-call-rosenstein-as-first-witness-video/
It’s very unlikely to be true. What does “exonerated” mean? He was certainly not tried and found not guilty. It could mean there was an official finding that he’d done no wrong, but if that were so he wouldn’t be on trial now. The fact that they’re trying him means there was never any such official finding, but at most a determination that it wasn’t in the public interest to proceed against him at that time, or that there was insufficient evidence to proceed at that time. Such a finding would get him nowhere at all.
The Mueller investigation reinforces my belief that plea-bargains violate the basic principles of justice and ought to be completely eliminated.
The Mueller can openly extort defendants such as Cohen and Manafort with the encouragement and approval of many within the justice system and our legislators is simply astounding.
When we consider that somewhere upward of 80% of all court cases are resolved through the plea mechanism, the totality of the abuse suffered by the victims is incalculable.
The real purpose of plea-bargains seems to be to allow our government to poke at its citizens with wild abandon and still convict them for made-up, distorted and questionable offenses that jury trials would never permit.
Yes, many people plead guilty to crimes they never committed, because they don’t fancy taking their chances in front of a jury on more serious crimes which they also never committed.
Try and picture a world In Democrat land where the Mueller probe is finished and they have nothing. The Russia collusion story and special council were launched to give reason to the Left for opposing Trump in unprecedented ways and for the Democrat Leadership to avoid the blame for rigging the primary for a losing candidate that brought about Trump to the Left.
I see the Mueller probe going on forever because the whole structure of the Democrat party is now dependent on this narrative. It can’t end without ending this narrative and then what? We talk about Issues? They treat the Trump Presidency legitimately? They will do anything to not face that day.
This will be an intergenerational vendetta. Long after we are dead, Robert Mueller VII will be investigating Donald Trump VII.
Two years is long enough for Mueller to do his job. We need to see the results … now.