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Charges leveled against 11 suspected ‘caravan’ members for crossing border illegally

Charges leveled against 11 suspected ‘caravan’ members for crossing border illegally

The battle over border policy continues, and San Diego is now on the front lines.

The drama related to the arrival of the illegal immigrant caravan to the US border near San Diego continues unabated
The Department of Justice (DOJ) has just filed criminal charges on against 11 individuals believed to be part of a caravan from Central America seeking asylum in this country.

The DOJ said in a press release shared by ABC News that border patrol agents apprehended the individuals a few miles west of the designated border crossing in San Ysidro, Calif.

“The United States will not stand by as our immigration laws are ignored and our nation’s safety is jeopardized,” Attorney General Jeff Sessions said in a statement.

The 11 individuals charged in the case are accused of knowingly and willingly entering the U.S. at a time and place other than one designated by immigration officers.

Meanwhile, organizers of that caravan coaching the migrants to seek asylum indicate 158 have formally been allowed to enter the country for processing.

All have crossed at the San Ysidro Port of Entry between San Diego and Tijuana, Mexico, including the 70 who turned themselves in at 9 a.m. Thursday. They were the largest group to be accepted for processing so far, organizers said.

There are around 70 members of the caravan still in Tijuana waiting to cross into the U.S. and claim asylum, Mensing said.

U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions said on Tuesday that he was rirecting 35 federal prosecutors and 18 immigration judges to the southwest U.S. border with Mexico to assist with the caravan and immigration issues there.

Hundreds of California National Guard troops are now in the San Diego area, supposedly for a new mission said to be part of President Trump’s focus on increased safety at the U.S.-Mexico border.

…For the last week, around 400 volunteer soldiers from different units and ranks trained at Camp Roberts in Monterey.

[California National Guard Sgt. Brianna] Occhino could not get into details about troop movements and training, but she did say the note clearly stated that the Guardsmen will not be dealing with any immigration-related arrests or the building of a border wall.

“We will not be touching that. We are not authorized to do those kinds of activities,” she said.

Instead, they will work in a supportive role to the Border Patrol, focusing on patrolling gangs, human trafficking, and drug and weapons smuggling.

“Guarding people, or entry control points, or exit control points,” she explained.

It is now being reported that illegal immigration along U.S.-Mexico border surged 230 percent in April compared to last year, which experts blame on major loopholes in American immigration law.

Chief among the loopholes is the de facto “catch-and-release” policy that sees most illegal immigrants caught at the border quickly put back out on the streets, with the hope that they’ll return to be deported later.

Perhaps 75 percent of all migrants caught by Border Patrol agents are given catch and release, said Brandon Judd, president of the National Border Patrol Council, which represents line agents. Knowing they’ll be released rather than quickly deported has served as an enticement for more illegal immigrants to make the journey, he said.

The loopholes are strangling sensible, secure, and critically needed border control. Until Congress rescinds these detrimental rules, the battle over border policy will continues, with San Diego now on the front lines.


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You know if there was some barbed wire on top of that wall they wouldn’t be sitting there.

    herm2416 in reply to boulder. | May 4, 2018 at 8:01 am

    Sorry, I didn’t mean to downvote you!
    You know, if our federal government would insist on following current immigration laws, we wouldn’t have this issue.
    Ugh……I’m SO sick of these invaders.

    JusticeDelivered in reply to boulder. | May 4, 2018 at 8:30 am

    If there were rubber bullets hitting them,they would be falling off the wall. Better yet, real bullets would send a clearer message.

    In light of large numbers of those already here illegally, how about we block all immigration from the south?

      4th armored div in reply to JusticeDelivered. | May 4, 2018 at 10:53 am

      RED paint balls would be a better solution – it would also ‘mark’ them for what they are an invading communist and criminal

        JusticeDelivered in reply to 4th armored div. | May 4, 2018 at 1:10 pm

        Something better than paint. When I was in college, and it was common for male professors to periodically trade in wifes for younger models, I pulled what I thought was a very funny joke.

        I ground silver nitrate crystals in a fine powder, and dusted toilet seats in faculty bathrooms.

        Over the following month it was interesting how at first everyone was quiet about the black ring problem, and the gradually started to share and discuss it.

        Being somewhat older now, I understand that that was not very nice, in that those rings on their tails, which would not wash off, were no doubt causing a lot of domestic strife.

          YellowGrifterInChief in reply to JusticeDelivered. | May 4, 2018 at 1:46 pm

          Did you ever get around to dusting Trump Tower. If memory serves me well, he has traded in wives for younger models and cheated on them – even when they were pregnant.

          Unfortunately, the prank was played on the American People.

          I am not sure how having a black ring on your a$$ shows infidelity, but I am sure you peeped in just make sure you got your man.

    JusticeDelivered in reply to boulder. | May 4, 2018 at 12:01 pm

    Razor wire aka Concertina wire or Dannert Wire would be a better choice, and where a border wall is concerned it should be stainless and on insulators so that it can be electrified. A neon sign transformer would be inexpensive, weatherproof and lethal source of high voltage.

    Many years ago I was commissioned to design and build an electrified fence based a neon sign transformer with every other row being from each side of the transformer, and then returning each end back to a neon bulb. That was monitored with a cadmium sulfide sensor for disturbance of the loop, which then triggered an alarm and release of guard dogs. As I recall, the transformer was 15KV. The dogs were trained not to touch the fence with it being at a lower voltage. It did not take them long to learn to not touch the fence. One rather neat aspect of the fence was that it burned weeds off of itself.

    elle in reply to boulder. | May 4, 2018 at 12:42 pm

    true regarding the barbed wire, but think of the great photos now available for the Nov election.

    This caravan and the reporting of it help the GOP far more than they help the California Democrats, who are facing lawsuits ire over their sanctuary city policies.

Our statutes regarding immigration, and particularly asylum, are a mess. I read that these people gathered at the border to be tutored in what to say to be allowed to enter for purposes of gaining asylum were offered the opportunity to remain in Mexico. Some of the 158 persons allowed to enter were citizens of Mexico. We don’t usually consider Mexico to be a country from which people need asylum. Nor would we normally consider Mexico to be so politically dangerous, across the entire country, that neither Mexican citizens, nor citizens of other countries residing in Mexico are in need of asylum in the US.

But there’s the rub. How we define “asylum” has changed through the decades. In my youth we granted asylum to people like Cardinal Mindzenty (granted asylum in the US Embassy in Poland). Then Castro took over Cuba and eventually we allowed Cubans escaping Cuba to be granted asylum in the US. The way our current laws are written, and interpreted through regulations, poverty or criminal acts are sufficient reason for granting “asylum”.

Asylum has become a joke, a way for people to game the system and get into the US ahead of all the people who are dumb enough to think they need to actually follow the law in applying for entry to the US. And I think it is highly unlikely that Congress will now, finally, rewrite the law. There have been demands to do so for years, to no avail. This time won’t be any different and the next S̶o̶c̶i̶a̶l̶i̶ er, Democrat resident in the Oval Office will open the doors wide again.

Congress needs to act, or the situation will become untenable. Expect a massive invasion soon.

    herm2416 in reply to Exiliado. | May 4, 2018 at 8:02 am

    Congress, by design, is acting. They are acting like 5ey want cheap labor and new voters.

      elle in reply to herm2416. | May 4, 2018 at 1:30 pm

      current immigration policy is nothing more than human trafficking for cheap labor. There is nothing noble about it. Big corporate interests get a near servant class of labor that can’t complain about wages or abuses. The employer even gets to keep even MORE profits by making the taxpayer pick up their housing and healthcare through taxes.

      The deal is doubly good for politicians because the corporations pay the politicians large donations and they get new voters who keep this gig going.

      The only people getting screwed are the American laborer paying taxes to pay for it all and all the women forced to enter America by crossing a lawless border.

      It’s an immoral game of the rich against the poor, both Mexican and American, keeping them down so the well heeled can get their lettuce and lawns mowed for less.

      Nothing noble about any of it. Nothing.

Until Congress rescinds these detrimental rules

This is no more than a genteel way of saying, “When monkeys fly out of my ass.” Congress will do nothing. Guaranteed. Useful action will have to come from some other quarter.

And this says basically nothing—

Instead, [the California National Guard troops] will work in a supportive role to the Border Patrol, focusing on patrolling gangs, human trafficking, and drug and weapons smuggling.

These “other things” are independent of this “asylum caravan” thing. These are all jobs which need doing at all times. So why are CA N.G. troops there now? Who does this job when there is no asylum funny business afoot?

Obviously, there’s more to this than officialdom’s admitting.

    Milhouse in reply to tom_swift. | May 4, 2018 at 10:39 am

    Border Patrol does them. Which is why these people are there now, to do those jobs so the Border Patrol is free to actually patrol the border. That way CA gets to keep its ideological “purity” and the border gets patrolled.

      elle in reply to Milhouse. | May 4, 2018 at 1:35 pm

      why do you hate the desperately poor so much? Why don’t you want a legal path for them to cross the border so they don’t have to pay roulette with their lives and fortunes crossing the border?

      It’s so cruel. You are cruel for supporting it.

        elle in reply to elle. | May 4, 2018 at 1:42 pm

        This whole caravan was cruel. How many desperately poor did they con into joining it for their show? They knew perfectly well most of them would be wasting their time and effort. They didn’t care. What happened to the thousands? How many were left along the way and told, “Sucks to be you, good luck getting back home.”

        Such a travesty. The whole thing. Give these people a legal pathway to work. It would be possible without all of the useful idiots who do the bidding of corporate labor wanting servant class labor.

          forksdad in reply to elle. | May 4, 2018 at 6:48 pm

          No deport them all. The country is well past the 330 million mark and climbing. We need no one. Send every single one back.

          elle in reply to elle. | May 4, 2018 at 11:41 pm

          I’m feeling a little misunderstood. I think illegal immigration is immoral. It is immoral because it is human trafficking for cheap labor. It helps big business, cartels, and politicians and totally screws the American taxpayer and creates a shadow class of people who are abused by employers because they have no access to the laws.

          My point here was that all of these people that scream racist when we complain about illegal immigration don’t give a damn about the people they claim to care about. They get a caravan of desperately poor people together, play on their dreams and march them across Mexico, not to help them but to use them in their show. They started with thousands, and ended with hundreds. Where are those same liberals crying about the poor thousands of people that were scammed into participating in this show? They were left by the wayside, that’s where. I’m sure no one paid their way home. They were used. Tools for a circus show. And all of the people who care so damn much about the poor have been silent about it. Not a word.

        Arminius in reply to elle. | May 4, 2018 at 7:54 pm

        elle, you can go to hell. The Bible is emphatic in its support of the nation state. That’s why God destroyed the Tower of Babel. What’s cruel isn’t us. What’s cruel is the people in positions of power in other nations that created desperate people as well as the criminal/terrorist element that comes with.

        Your misplaced sympathy is cruel, as you condemn people here to to ugly and cruel consequences with your unthinking and untutored imaginations. There is nothing in you that is respectable. Grow the hell up.

          elle in reply to Arminius. | May 4, 2018 at 9:53 pm

          Arminius, I don’t think you read all of what I wrote before responding. I too support nation states. My point is that is that big corporate interests are keeping the human trafficking going because they get near-servant labor and also force the taxpayers to pay for the migrant hosing, healthcare and food though low cost housing and welfare.

          I am sick of people pretending to care about immigrants while keeping in place a system that exploits both them and the American laborer.

          elle in reply to Arminius. | May 4, 2018 at 11:43 pm

          migrant hosing ….freudian slip.

          Arminius in reply to Arminius. | May 5, 2018 at 7:53 pm

          I believe I did read what you wrote. And now you’ve clarified and expanded on what I previously read. Thank you for that. I hereby withdraw all my untutored and ignorant comments.

          You have kindly and generously tutored me. Thank you, once again, from the bottom of my heart. I clearly misunderstood.

        Arminius in reply to elle. | May 5, 2018 at 8:30 pm

        elle, confession is good for the soul. Is this too much information?

        I didn’t have religion until my 40s, I’m ashamed to say. I had hints of religion. In that I didn’t f*** the girl I bar fined in Olangapo who dazzled me with her accent about how much she loved her boyfriend on the USS Peleliu.

        I credit my parents for imparting the seeds of Christianity. Because despite their best efforts the trail continued through Asia. But because of their best efforts eventually I found myself asking God, “Is this what you want from me.”

        The answer was, “No!.”

          elle in reply to Arminius. | May 5, 2018 at 11:06 pm

          Arminius, thanks for responding! I knew we were on the same side of the wall – pun intended 🙂

          Yes, Christianity does transform and spread goodness. I imagine that if you had gone a different route in Olangapo, it would have darkened your soul instead of helping to spread the light.

          If the Israelis were smart, they’d send in missionaries to convert the Palestinians and then the worst they would have to contend with would be the hordes of Baptists inviting them to non-Kosher potlucks and Sunday services. In a perfect world.

          America is a shining beacon on the hill. Thanks for your service in helping to maintain it yesterday, today and tomorrow.

JusticeDelivered | May 4, 2018 at 8:51 am

Build a few thousand semi mounted human cannons. catch, load , fire. Use very large charges for repeat offenders.

    JusticeDelivered in reply to JusticeDelivered. | May 4, 2018 at 12:50 pm

    Lets say that they could return 12 illegals per hour per cannon, and we had 2000 cannons. So we could return 24,000 people per hour and if necessary we could run the cannons 24 x 7. At maximum capacity we would be able to return about 200,000 a year.

    While the official number of illegals is estimated at ten million, there is reason to think that there are far more. It would take 2000 cannons running 24 x 7 would take 50 years to return ten million illegals.

    It sounds to me like we need 100,000 cannons, or we need to automate the loading and firing process.

    Is it possible to launch one illegal per minute? If so 20,000 cannons might do the job.

    Wasn’t this an interesting exercise in how an engineering project is analysed?

    What is Spanish for “take cover, illegal incoming”?

    On the other hand, one illegals start falling out of the sky, maybe more illegals will start returning on their own?

      Ragspierre in reply to JusticeDelivered. | May 4, 2018 at 2:58 pm

      Cass Sunstein’s psychopath stupid brother math-turbates.

      J Motes in reply to JusticeDelivered. | May 4, 2018 at 7:37 pm

      Shades of Frank J’s Mexi-cannon, dating as far back as 2007. He wrote a very funny series, including cartoons, describing his plan for returning illegals to their home country. I searched his site for the Mexi-cannon posts and was presented with a google listing of 133 entries at:

      JusticeDelivered: I am sure you would enjoy reading Frank J’s collection.

        JohnSmith100 in reply to J Motes. | May 6, 2018 at 10:18 am

        I have a question, was justice delivered at the point the cannon fired, or when the deportee landed?

The problem is there, not here. The solution is emigration reform (i.e. light on the situation), not immigration reform (i.e. a cover-up under a layer of privacy). Also, the problem is Planned Parenthood. People need to make the right choices.

    YellowGrifterInChief in reply to n.n. | May 4, 2018 at 3:35 pm

    So what about the pregnant women seeking asylum? I thought right to life was fundamental to your holy life. I guess the RTL of brown woman and their brown babies don’t count.

YellowGrifterInChief | May 4, 2018 at 3:32 pm

Meanwhile some Native Americans that probably wish that all the tribes had built a wall around North America, were removed from a tour of Colorado State University because a white woman got nervous. Of note is that they were invited on tour by CSU.

Colorado State University investigates after two Native American men are pulled off tour after nervous parent calls cops

Nope there is no white privilege, although the President said he would like a bunch of people from Norway to emigrate here. Note: Why would Norwegians come here when they have a working democratic socialist state at home?

    The Muslim gang rapes? The no-go zones in Oslo? The collapsing social structure? Take your pick.

    Read the article. A parent was concerned about two kids on Indian time who showed up half way through. Sounds like they were beaten with rubber truncheons and soaked with fire hoses.

    Talked about a nothingburger.

    1. There is no indication of the complaining woman’s race. Why do you assume she was white?

    2. There is no indication of what made her nervous about them. Why do you assume, of all possible things, that it was their race? Don’t you find that rather unlikely?

    3. Yes, the Indians probably do sometimes wish they’d been able to keep immigrants out. Isn’t that the greatest argument for our doing so, lest we suffer the same fate?

    Why would Norwegians come here when they have a working democratic socialist state at home?

    How about because it’s not working all that well?

“Meanwhile some Native Americans that probably wish that all the tribes had built a wall around North America”

Good point. So… how did not stopping the immigrants flooding into their homeland work out for the Indians?

    Arminius in reply to elle. | May 4, 2018 at 8:13 pm

    So underpinning your untutored, unthinking, and therefore cruel and ignorant opinions is a complete ignorance of what the Indians were doing to themselves for centuries before we white people ever got here.

    “The Crow Creek massacre occurred around the mid 1300s AD between Native American groups at a site along the Missouri River in the South Dakota area; it is now within the Crow Creek Indian Reservation…”

    Got that? I have no patience for you elle, but maybe somebody reading this might be reachable. It was A) a pre-Columbian massacre site and B) it’s now on a Crow reservation.

    The Comanche built the largest (and only) bison hunting empire by massacring the other tribes such as the Apache and Kiowa. And you know what amazed them about us? We’d give them land to remain on. That never occurred to them, or any other tribe. To give people land. The thing that set us apart is that we didn’t massacre them. That amazed the Comanche; not so much we defeated them but we allowed them to live. Which is why I have Comanche to learn from today. Maybe you should, too, elle, if you’re capable.

      elle in reply to Arminius. | May 4, 2018 at 11:48 pm

      Arminius, you are not wrong. Nor am I. I was trolling Yellowadolescent because he actually made a point he did not intend to make: The Indians would have been better off if they had built a wall to keep the settlers out. They were invaded by the white man and they lost their culture. Moral of the story…build a wall.

They were truly “Lords of the Plains.” And still are.

Honestly, I don’t understand how people unconnected to other people, can so distort the history of those they are unconnected with.

“History indicates that Comanches fought numerous other tribes, the Spanish, the Mexicans, the Texans, the Texas Rangers, and the US Cavalry. Their empire often referred to as “Comancheria” consisted of western Oklahoma and Texas, southwest Kansas, southeast Colorado, western New Mexico and parts of northern Mexico. Comanche boys grew into men and became hunters and warriors that provided for and protected the Comanche tribe. The Comanches were once called the greatest military light cavalry by many military experts, officer, and historians. Now they could fight no more. Their identity as Warriors began to return when 23 Comanches served with Troop L, 7 the Cavalry at Fort Sill from 1892-1897. Another 15 Comanches also served as US Cavalry Scouts during this time. In 1898 one Comanche served with the Texas Volunteers during the Spanish-American War. Once again our identity as Warriors disappeared until 1917-1919 when 60 Comanches were either drafted or enlisted in the US military – despite their honorable military service they did not become citizens of the United States until 1924.”

Guess where I got this? The first three guesses don’t count.

…Thirteen Comanches have been killed in action, died of combat wounds, died in captivity or declared dead while missing in action. Another forty-six Comanches had been wounded in action. Twenty-five Comanches have been decorated for Gallantry, Heroism, Bravery, and Valor and two others have fought and killed the enemy in Hand to Hand combat. Five Comanches have graduated from three of the military academies, one has earned general officers status, another the highest Warrant Officer rank and five other others the highest enlisted grade of E-9. Eighty-two Comanche women have also served in the military. Once again the Comanches have regained their status as Warriors by earning the title of Veteran.”

Warriors respect warriors.