Ouch: John Podesta asked how Russian trolls knew to focus on purple states, but Hillary didn’t
No good answers.
Hillary Clinton notoriously ignored key purple and light blue states which ended up making a difference in the 2016 election
Trump vigorously campaigned everywhere, including those states where a win wasn’t likely, right up to the last minute, while Hillary prepared her victory fireworks in New York City.
Guess who else knew to target such purple states? The Russian internet trolls who recently were indicted.
While Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein made clear their efforts didn’t affect the result of the election, at least the Russian trolls were minimally competent in U.S. politics, unlike Team Hillary.
From the Indictment:
31. In order to collect additional intelligence, Defendants and their co-conspirators posed as U.S. persons and contacted U.S. political and social activists. For example, starting in or around June 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators, posing online as U.S. persons, communicated with a real U.S. person affiliated with a Texas-based grassroots organization. During the exchange, Defendants and their co-conspirators learned from the real U.S. person that they should focus their activities on “purple states like Colorado, Virginia & Florida.” After that exchange, Defendants and their co-conspirators commonly referred to targeting “purple states” in directing their efforts.
John Podesta, Hillary’s campaign Chair, appeared on CBS News Sunday, and was asked a brutal question.
Chuck Ross at The Daily Caller reports on the dialog (emphasis added):
“How is it that these Russian operatives knew to focus on purple states like Michigan and Wisconsin and your campaign didn’t?” Nancy Cordes, the host of “Face the Nation,” asked Podesta.
“Of course we spent a lot of time and energy and effort in all those states,” Podesta insisted.
“Hillary Clinton did not spend much time,” Cordes interjected.
“We had [Vice Presidential nominee] Tim Kaine was there, Barack Obama, and she spent enormous time in Pennsylvania and Michigan,” said Podesta.
“We spent a lot of effort, we had staff in Wisconsin that even President Obama had in 2012.”
The totality of the expenditures by the Russians for the efforts in the indictment was a few million dollars.
The Clinton campaign, Democratic Party and pro-Clinton expenditure committees and PACs spent spent $1.2 billion.
Donations tax deductible
to the full extent allowed by law.
I am so glad that the (D)’s wasted 1.2B – the Russians expense was in the noise level.
Putin and company (including 0bama) need to be sanctioned and the MSM also contributed countless of M or B dollars in free propaganda.
as i’ve written before, we lucked out in the last election.
But “don’t get cocky” that we will win in 2020 or 2018 senate or House races.
we need to get 60 (R) super majority to pass legislation or get
rid of the 60 rule.
if this country is to build infrastructure, rebuild military strength, deal properly with DACA etc. – we have to get the 60 (R).
Absolutely true… but does the GOPe wish to win and if so which agenda will they pursue… Democrat or Green Party?
No doubts about it.
The old, monied families club does not want any outsiders such as Trump to win anything!
“we need to get 60 (R) super majority to pass legislation or get
rid of the 60 rule….”
Forget it. We’ve got McConnell hogging the Senate leadership position of our party.
Does it matter anymore whose side McConnell is on? Because, it sure ain’t ours. Even if he WAS on our side, who needs a limp d–k like him when we need a warrior?
If you looked at the vote on the Amnesty legislation the Senate tried to pass – we only have 39 senators currently on our side, probably 40 when you take into account the games Ted Cruz was playing with the vote. But hell, only 39 against open borders. That’s pathetic. That’s what Trump has got to work with.
its what we give him. With mcconnell booted out and replaced by an American, the rats of the GOPe will fall in line, or lose their perks.
Actually … this theory supports the “collusion” hypothesis, but reverses it; Putin was Trump’s puppet, and not vice versa.
The chain of logic:
Trump realized that he should campaign in these states—and, “coincidentally”, the Russians realized they should campaign in these states, too—so, since both did the same thing, they must be colluding—and Trump, the local boy, was the one most likely to realize that—so he must have been directing the Russians where to campaign. Q.E.D.
I’m sure this will all make sense once it hits MSNBC.
Hillary didn’t do as Teddy Kennedy did… personally collude with the Russian to defeat Reagan. SHe should have waited to sign off on Uranium One for a better campaign deal with the Russian.
She’s not the sharpest tool in the shed, and she is the most greedy, and a fool who believes her own press.
She tried to mimic the scam of Kennedy. Of course she blew it – otherwise, she wouldn’t be hillary klinton.
Kennedy didn’t collude with the Russians to defeat Reagan. He offered, but the Russians weren’t interested.
That itself is cullusion. It is also treason.
Edward kennedy was scum.
Finally! A Trump tweet I can agree with: “If it was the GOAL of Russia to create discord, disruption and chaos within the U.S. then, with all of the Committee Hearings, Investigations and Party hatred, they have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. They are laughing their asses off in Moscow. Get smart America!”
5:11 AM – 18 Feb 2018
Donald J. Trump Verified account @realDonaldTrump
The Russians and the American left both share that same goal.
The left WAS laughing their asses off, too, until hillary klinton blew it.
They’re not laughing now, but they’re bent on destroying our society utilizing the dumbest famous people possible. Right LeBon?
Words. Capitulation. GOPe fecklessness and corruption.
This isn’t an argument about sports: it is about our very freedom.
If we think Putin and company (including 0bama) need to be sanctioned, what is our position on Hillary and the FBI/DOJ?
What we are calling “Putin” engaged in relatively small-scale (and clumsy, as best I can tell) trolling,
THE RUSSIAN INDICTMENTS WERE PLAGIARIZED FROM A ARTICLE ABOUT A RUSSIAN TROLL FARM. THERES YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SPENT ON AN INVESTIGATION THAT GOT ITS INFO FROM AN ARTICLE ON A RUSSIAN WEBSITE.
SHOCK: MUELLER INDICTMENTS PLAGIARIZED FROM BUZZFEED? Russian troll group activities reported by liberal media since 2013 (infowars.com)
STUNNING: Mueller Patched Together Much of His Indictment from 2015 Radio Free Europe Article
Meanwhile, Hillary spent 1.2 Billion dollars on a character assassination campaign
The following is a quote from a verified email from Patrick Healy, National Political Correspondent, New York Times, to members of the Clinton campaign. Circulation information is available, as well.
“We’re told that President Clinton (like Mrs. Clinton and some other Dems) thinks that Trump would be a formidable opponent in the general election, and that Dems are in a form of denial if they dismiss Trump as a joke who would be easily defeated in November. President Clinton, like others, thinks that Trump has his finger on the pulse of the electorate’s mood and that only a well-financed, concerted campaign portrayed [sic] him as dangerous and bigoted will win what both Clintons believe will be a close November election. ”
“We’re told that President Clinton (like Mrs. Clinton and many other Dems) thinks the single greatest weapon against Trump is Trump’s own instinct to make outrageous, divisive, even hateful comments that can come across as unpresidential. He, Mrs. Clinton, and the campaign all agree that they will need to seize on opportunities to paint Trump as extremist and recklessly impulsive. ”
The Clintons themselves decided to AVOID a policy discussion to the extent possible, in favor of a campaign of slander.
The DNC actively participated in this nonsense.
It had a WRITTEN policy to promote violence against Trump supporters, and blame it on Trump.
PowerPoint playbook on the messaging — slide number 6 — with the messaging theme number 1: Violence.
The media co-operated. There were many articles about how Trump was “encouraging violence” in his speeches. These were false.
Here is a speech that was mischaracterized as “promoting violence,” which is false. He handled the hecklers masterfully, and very clearly told his followers NOT to engage in violence.
Full Speech: Donald Trump San Diego, CA (5-27-16)
The interesting part is about the first 17 minutes. The whole speech is included. It is not edited.
Further, the Clinton Campaign paid for the infamous Piss Dossier that was used in the FISA court to get permission to spy on Americans.
Sorry, folks, it is hard for me to get all exercised over the Russian effort to influence our electoral campaign, in light of the actions by the Democratic Party and the Clinton Campaign.
All that said, the Democratic Party has been adequately punished by losing both Houses of Congress and the Presidency. If they fail to clean house, they will remain in the wilderness. Hillary should be in jail. So, probably, should Bill. However, they both have lost a second chance to live in the White House and collect yet more bribes through the Clinton Foundation. In this imperfect world, that, with the dissolution of the CF, might be enough.
Now, about that piss Dossier. Every lawyer associated with the abuse of the FISA court needs to be disbarred. This needs to include some political appointees to the FBI and DOJ. To the extent career FBI/DOJ personnel and non-lawyers are involved, they should be disciplined or fired as appropriate.
I would prefer to see people line up, and get their plea bargains. I understand that this will not satisfy the trolls who want to see them “frog marched” and jailed. The crimes involved, power, have to do with ethics and politics, two areas where otherwise-intelligent people have been regularly known to lose their minds. I would simply prefer to publicly expose their characters, and let them twist in the wind, at their own expense.
Valerie, with respect, I think it’s a horrible idea to say “well the coup failed, let that be punishment enough”.
If these people don’t serve jail time, there will not be sufficient disincentive to stop them from trying again.
These people colluded with a foreign power to overturn the legitimate election of the President of the United States. I don’t what the legal technicalities are – they are traitors to America.
Hillary was offended by the need to campaign anywhere, or to stand for election at all.
She was entitled. And the fix was in.
The fix was in. Only klinton could have blown it.
Great, isnt it?
Allow me to mention one point. I’ve finally caught up on the details… these really were Kremlin-financed propagandists, mainly aimed at fellow Russians or Europeans but also Americans. The identities of people in the indictment were exposed by a St. Petersburg journalist with far less grief and fanfare than say, Valerie Plame. These are Russians, on Russian soil, being indicted for colluding with Russia at the behest of the lawful Russian government.
This is what happens when prosecutors are relieved of all political oversight. If they couldn’t find Americans who colluded with the lawful Russian government, they really should not have bothered.
You are right – if they were not corrupt.
Bu they sure were/are, huh?
Sessions, get off your sorry ass, or get out. And take the walking dead (mcconnell and ryan) with you.
In a redacted portion of the Mueller indictment, it is rumored that the Russians are accused of hacking into the Clinton Campaign and installing viruses that subtly altered the campaign maps the Clinton team was using to plan their strategy. According the new maps, Wisconsin and Michigan were part of Ontario, and Pennsylvania was mislabeled as New Tennessee.
And they added the 7 States to bring it up to the Obama United States Map.
Must suck for Hillary to know the Russian bots worked harder in the swing states than she did.
She’ll be tormented till she dies.
But indict her first.
Demand thete be no two tier justice system in this country.
I’m with you, Fine. Enough of the two-tier justice system, and of the elites’ game of “let’s see which party can make the other look worse on the talk shows, without ruining the fun by actually sending someone to jail”. I want these career criminals sent to jail.
I’m also catch8ng the entitlement vibe from Hillary. She is the most qualified nominee to ever run for President and Trump is the worst ever. How DARE he force her out of her chair to contest what will CLEARLY be a landslide. The audacity!
I still find it difficult to believe that Russia would prefer Trump over Hillary in the election. Hillary had so much baggage that the Russians would be able to manipulate her in any way they pleased. The only possible outlier is that Putin was pissed at the Clinton’s efforts to manipulate his election and this was payback. Funny, the US democrats are allowed to interfere with other countries and their elections… yet this minor and probably ineffective tampering is causing them to lose the small remaining parts of their brains. Trump is right, Russians, and the rest of the world, are laughing at the US, and it isn’t over Trump, it is over the massive, expensive investigation and the attempted coup.
Notice how Podesta NEVER answered her question? No Demorat EVER answers the question asked if it is a negative question. God! It would be so great to have people who actually spoke our native tongue and who could speak as we all do!
Gonna drop this here, just for fun.
LOL. Too funny.
I think the MSM and Democrat Party (I know, redundant) embraced the Russia! Russia! Russia! narrative because they feared their own base would hang them for their incompetence.
So they distracted and redirected all that anger at Trump via the fake Russia narrative.