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No, Media. Trump is Not Kicking El Salvador Immigrants to the Curb

No, Media. Trump is Not Kicking El Salvador Immigrants to the Curb

Why don’t we trust the media? Let me count the ways….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwSALVcUTkE

President Donald Trump’s administration has decided to end special protections given to some El Salvador immigrants who came to America in 2001 after devastating earthquakes.

Now, before you get all crazy, I’m seeing outlets bury this important detail: the protections will not end until September 2019. This will give those immigrants plenty of time to work on citizenship and stay in America. It will also give Congress time to work on immigration reform.

Look at these headlines from The New York Times and USA Today.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/us/salvadorans-tps-end.html?_r=0

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/01/08/reports-trump-order-200-000-salvadorans-leave-u-s/1012345001/

The sound you hear are my eyes rolling to the back of my head. Again, no, this order does not mean they MUST leave and leave today or else. And the mainstream media wonders why we don’t trust them.

Most headlines are not apocalyptic, but they still lead you to believe that the protections end RIGHT NOW.

https://www.google.com/search?q=el+salvador+trump&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjW4MmBvMnYAhVK1CYKHXUyCc0Q_AUICigB&biw=942&bih=887

NO. The administration hasn’t ended the protections. The administration WILL END the protections in September 2019.

The El Salvador immigrants received protections under the program Temporary Protected Status (TPS), which is for “nationals of other countries whose homelands suffered severe natural disasters, war or disease.” The El Salvador immigrants are the largest group given protection in this program.

From The Wall Street Journal:

The 18-month transition period gives time for those affected to make arrangements to leave. Those who don’t may be in the U.S. illegally and subject to deportation.

The delay until 2019 also gives Congress time to offer them an alternate legal status, as some are hoping, though passing any immigration legislation is a heavy lift.

The fate of the Salvadorans may become intertwined in other negotiations about immigration policy. Extending their temporary protections along with a restoration of a legalization program for young, undocumented immigrants sometimes known as Dreamers could be offered in exchange for curbs to the diversity visa lottery program that President Donald Trump has heavily criticized, according to a congressional aide close to the negotiations. The visa-lottery program offers the chance for green cards to people from countries that are under represented in the immigration system.

They’ve been here since 2001, which gave them, in my opinion, plenty of time to at least start the process of becoming a citizen if they had anyintention of staying around.

Of course, groups have lambasted the administration because I guess America should just let anyone and everyone stay here as long as they want without becoming a citizen:

Immigration advocates condemned the decision.

“The Trump Administration once again has reneged on a long-held American tradition and has added 200,000 Salvadoran families to their long list of undocumented immigrants it wishes to deport,” said Angelica Salas, executive director of the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights.

The Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund emailed this statement:

“Having been informed by Donald Trump on Saturday that he is a ‘stable genius,’ we all learned today that apparently the resident horses in that stable all wear blinders. There is no other explanation for Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen’s decision to end Temporary Protected Status (TPS) for immigrants from El Salvador. To reach such a critical decision affecting the entire nation, threatening the economy and communities, and targeting over a quarter-million long-term immigrants and their families, by considering only the continuing effects of a 2001 earthquake, without any analysis of equally dangerous conditions unrelated to the natural disaster that make return not only disruptive but life-threateningly dangerous, reflects inexcusably narrow thinking. Willful ignorance or studied neglect of these conditions are inconsistent with executive authority under the TPS program and contrary to American values. In the face of this cultivated narrow-mindedness, the Congress, with smart leadership that lives away from the Trump stable and its resident genius, must act to provide the logical and humane protections that Salvadoran TPS holders deserve.”

It’s been 17 years. Calm down, bro.

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Comments

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | January 8, 2018 at 7:06 pm

MSM = media you can never trust!

They’ve got journOList College Degrees for goodness sake!

offers the chance for green cards to people from countries that are under represented in the immigration system.

This blatantly racist program should stop immediately. None of this September 2019 crap.

The earthquake hit in 2001 and they’re still here? Did the Clinton Foundation pilfer all the relief money like they did in Haiti, or what?

“The delay until 2019 also gives Congress time to offer them an alternate legal status, as some are hoping, though passing any immigration legislation is a heavy lift.”

Why would they need an “alternative legal status”? They can just become resident aliens and get a green card and move towards citizenship if they chose.

This is the thing that gets me the most about these “amnesty” twits, do they even realize that being an illegal is a choice?

    Milhouse in reply to Gremlin1974. | January 9, 2018 at 1:32 am

    Why would they need an “alternative legal status”? They can just become resident aliens and get a green card and move towards citizenship if they chose.

    Are you sure they can do that? As far as I know, TPS does not provide a path to resident status.

      Gremlin1974 in reply to Milhouse. | January 9, 2018 at 2:19 am

      No TPS doesn’t but that is not stopping them from going through the normal process. I wasn’t suggesting they get special treatment but getting a visa to stay in this country isn’t hard, I know many people who have done it.

        Milhouse in reply to Gremlin1974. | January 9, 2018 at 5:53 am

        Actually it is very hard, especially if you’re from Central America, unless you marry a US citizen, or have children who are born here and are therefore citizens, or land a job for which you’re uniquely qualified, and your employer has genuinely looked for a US citizen to fill it but couldn’t find one; otherwise the so-called line from those countries is so long it’s effectively non-existent. No more than 7% of immigrants in any one year can come from the same country, and usually once all the spouses, parents, children, and necessary employees are dealt with there are no spaces left from those countries.

          Gremlin1974 in reply to Milhouse. | January 9, 2018 at 5:29 pm

          No that is what open borders people want everyone to believe that it is difficult. I have actually helped someone with this and I am a Nurse not a Lawyer. I found the process to be very straight forward.

          What it is, however, is selective, which it should be. Frankly if they don’t have a needed skill or can contribute in some way then they should be encouraged to self-deport and or be deported. Unfortunately since they have been on basically special status that does mean that many will have to return home and that is as it should be.

          Immigration is a privilege not a right and it is a privilege that should only be granted to those that are needed.

          The real damage was done here by letting these people stay on TPS for 17 years, because then it becomes an expectation.

          Milhouse in reply to Milhouse. | January 10, 2018 at 8:36 am

          No that is what open borders people want everyone to believe that it is difficult. I have actually helped someone with this and I am a Nurse not a Lawyer. I found the process to be very straight forward.

          Really? What country were they from, and what were the grounds on which they applied? Because for most people it’s not just difficult, it’s impossible.

          What it is, however, is selective, which it should be. Frankly if they don’t have a needed skill or can contribute in some way then they should be encouraged to self-deport and or be deported.

          Being able to contribute is not enough to get in under the current system. The person’s skill must be so special that nobody in the USA can be found to do what they can do. That’s a high bar.

          Everyone who works honestly at a job, whatever it is, is contributing. They are producing wealth, which is all we have ever asked of immigrants. Slamming the door on someone who is eager to work and make something of himself, and who is willing to obey the law, is not American. It’s mean and it’s the sin of Sodom and the Cities of the Plain. I’m all for secure borders to keep out dangerous people, people who are coming not to work and respect the law but to prey on the weak, to kill, rob, rape, or blow things up. But the other kind of immigrants, the kind we’ve always welcomed in the past, should still be welcomed if we can determine who they are.

          Gremlin1974 in reply to Milhouse. | January 10, 2018 at 11:19 am

          @Milhouse

          “Really? What country were they from, and what were the grounds on which they applied?”

          South America, Factory worker, refugee program. So while I realize you believe that you are always more intelligent and informed that anyone else about everything, thinking it doesn’t make it true.

          “Because for most people it’s not just difficult, it’s impossible.”

          “Being able to contribute is not enough to get in under the current system. The person’s skill must be so special that nobody in the USA can be found to do what they can do. That’s a high bar.”

          Complete and utter Horse Exhaust. Thousands of people come to this country every year for manual labor jobs, farm jobs, skilled labor, and tech jobs.

          Also the thousands are brought in by companies to replace american workers who have the same or better skills simply because they can pay them less than half what they are paying american workers. Look up Disney fires americans in favor or foreign workers.

          “Everyone who works honestly at a job, whatever it is, is contributing.”

          Also not true, as stated above many are taking jobs that would be filled by actual citizens. (Yes, I do believe that citizens should be give priority over immigrants.)

          “They are producing wealth, which is all we have ever asked of immigrants. Slamming the door on someone who is eager to work and make something of himself, and who is willing to obey the law, is not American.”

          Priorities change even for nations, the honest answer is that we simply don’t need as many immigrants as we once did. The assertion that is is unamerican, is simply laughable. Immigration should be at the needs of the nation, not prescribed by history or histrionics.”

          “It’s mean and it’s the sin of Sodom and the Cities of the Plain.”

          Well we don’t live in the old testament and Christ absolve us of those since and fulfilled the laws and proficy. Also, you suddenly getting religion is hilarious. There is no sin and you are certainly no someone who should be lecturing others on such things.

          “I’m all for secure borders to keep out dangerous people, people who are coming not to work and respect the law but to prey on the weak, to kill, rob, rape, or blow things up.”

          No you are an open borders proponent just admit it.

          “But the other kind of immigrants, the kind we’ve always welcomed in the past, should still be welcomed if we can determine who they are.”

          Oh and since we have always done it, we must continue? Perhaps we should open Ellis Island again! Ridiculous.

          We already have more immigration than we need and have needed for years and have needed to decrease immigration levels. Also, those who claim that we are to strict on immigration, such as you, just don’t live in objective reality. Other than those countries who have allowed themselves to be overrun by muslim terrorists or who have weekly governments, we have and have had the most lenient immigration laws in the world and it has been time to tighten them since the 1970’s.

Hey sorry your house burned down. You can move in and live with us for… 20 years? What’s that? Oh sure, stay another 20. But maybe start pitching in for groceries?

Paul In Sweden | January 8, 2018 at 9:03 pm

Similarly, when Sessions announced the DOJ six month delay in enforcement against DACA illegal immigrants it was specified the half year was to allow the illegal immigrants to make necessary arrangements.

How many of these DACA illegal immigrants have used these months to make meaningful arrangements?

How many of the 200,000 from El Salvador actually qualified as refugees under the law? As we have seen in the past these programs are rife with fraud. Time and time again these broad immigration actions are poorly implemented with under estimated and reported negative results.

These 200,000 should be subject to the proposed point immigration system with strict enforcement regarding fraud and attention to criminal activity.

I don’t care what country they came from, when they came to this country or whether they are legal or not, no one who has been or is involved in violent crime – including DWI – should be given legal permission to stay in the US, let alone a path to citizenship.

TPS solely own it’s own … does not provide a path to legal permanent residency. There are other options such as asylum, employer sponsorship or a green card due to marriage to a US citizen … but TPS is not one of them.

They have been here since 2001 on a TEMPORARY Protected Status? Kinda makes you wonder what the liberal definition of “temporary” is.

What am I saying? Look at DEFERRED ACTION for Childhood Arrivals (or children of aliens, as I think of it). When does the “deferred” part end? Trump is right to say the “deferred” part ends now.

Now let me rant on the liberal definition of the word “fair”….. 😉

    Obie1 in reply to Dimsdale. | January 9, 2018 at 11:22 am

    Or suggest using the correct term, blinkers, instead of blinders.

    “the resident horses in that stable all wear blinders.”

ugottabekiddinme | January 9, 2018 at 1:30 am

Seventeen (17) frickin’ years? Are you kidding me?

The US kept it’s part of the bargain. What part of the word “temporary” is confusing?

Voice_of_Reason | January 9, 2018 at 7:38 am

Look, it’s all about the VOTES. democrats want illegal alien votes, anchor baby votes, refugee votes, etc.

democrat strategy has changed since the 90’s, when they were in favor of immigration controll and purported to be advocates of American workers.

now, they are purposefully trying to import socialist-leaning third-world voters to vote the votes that Americans won’t vote, and they use phony allegations of “racism” as a cudgel to stop debate on immigration enforcement.

it’s not hyperbole or exaggeration to point out that the democrat party has betrayed American citizens in favor of foreigners.

“the protections will not end until September 2019 ” And I predict that perhaps a dozen of the 200,000 will have made any sort of arrangements (let alone have left) as of Sept. 30, 2019.

I suppose it looks better to give people time to pack up and leave, but does anyone expect anything at all to actually happen before the deadline?

The analogy with the houseguest who’s stayed far too long is that the host would demand to see continuing progress toward the goal. Whereas government, well government’s just not very good at such things, is it?

Perhaps a response to the inevitable October, 2019 demonstrations might be to remind all that if government really can’t manage a program of temporary refuge then perhaps there should never again be any such program.

He shouldn’t kick them to the curb he should kick them back over several borders

They’ve been here long enough. They have to go back.

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