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Tillerson Declares Rohingya Massacres in Myanmar as Ethnic Cleansing

Tillerson Declares Rohingya Massacres in Myanmar as Ethnic Cleansing

“…it is clear that the situation in northern Rakhine state constitutes ethnic cleansing against the Rohingya.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eVldS15oU0

FINALLY. As I’ve been covering and tweeting for months, the Myanmar army has been committing atrocities on the Rohingya minority, basically to the point to eliminate the people from the planet.

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has finally declared these atrocities as ethnic cleansing, which is exactly what is going on.

Tillerson has taken his time doing this, but he is thorough man and wanted all the facts. So after he did that, he stated that “it is clear that the situation in northern Rakhine state constitutes ethnic cleansing against the Rohingya.”

Now, I don’t think it will have any legal standing, but it’s awesome that we have finally stood up for the persecuted people. David Bosco at Indiana University’s School of Global and International Studies told The Washington Post that “these things come down to the politics of it” and “it’s really just a question of whether that helps generate a pressure for action.”

Human rights groups celebrated Tillerson’s announcement:

Matthew Smith, co-founder of Fortify Rights, a human rights organization working in Burma, said Tillerson’s statement was nevertheless a significant step toward holding Burmese officials accountable.

“The civilian and military authorities are aligned in their outright denials and crude whitewashing,” said Smith. “Ethnic cleansing is as reprehensible as genocide and crimes against humanity.”

Not lost on Rohingya commentators was the symbolic significance of Tillerson’s statement coinciding with the International Criminal Court’s sentencing of former Bosnia Serb commander Ratko Mladic, convicted of genocide and crimes against humanity.

“The U.S. government should find more facts to declare the persecution against Rohingya is genocide,” said Ro Nay San Lwin, a prominent Rohingya blogger and activist based in Europe. “Myanmar’s military commanders must be punished as Ratko Mladic was.”

[Ratko Mladic is a former Bosnian Serb general who was just convicted of genocide and war crimes against Bosinian Muslims. He was sentenced to life in prison]

The conflict has been going on for the longest time. Myanmar do not consider the Rohingya citizens and treat them like animals. In order to do anything they need permission from the government. They even need permission to have more than two kids. Most of them reside in Rakhine State, located in western Myanmar.

Everything exploded last year after Rohingya attacked a Myanmar post after reports emerged “that the military had been deploying an alarming number of troops to the northern part of the state, causing concern among local populations and independent observers — including the U.N. rights rapporteur to Myanmar, Yanghee Lee — that the heightened security measures could further inflame tensions.”

It didn’t end well for the Rohingya, but they refused to give up and attempted to take on the fully armed military in August.

Myanmar responded with more force and over 600,000 Rohingya have escaped to Bangladesh since then.

It doesn’t help that Myanmar leader Aung San Suu Kyi, the Nobel Peace prize dissident who captured the hearts and minds of many, hasn’t done anything to help these people. She remained silent for a long time as the military attacked the Rohingya.

Suu Kyi and Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi held a press conference on Sunday to reveal a plan to allow Myanmar and Bangladesh end this crisis. This plan includes “cease-fire, repatriation of refugees and talks on a long-term solution.” How about starting off with treating them like human beings and respecting their human rights? Just a thought.

Human rights groups and the United Nations have done their best to get these people’s stories out, sharing what they had to endure. This included raping women and small girls. They have gathered the men in villages, sticking them in huts, and setting it on fire. The military have even beheaded people. The military has even thrown babies into fires.

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Another perspective,

“Buddhists in Burma have seen Rohingyas rioting against them [Buddhists] for more than half a century for no apparent reason except the need to create a separate Islam region in Burma with the funding that come from extremist organizations and middle east in addition to the support they have from neighboring Pakistan and Bangladesh. Its as the last resort they have opted to deal with the obvious problem they have at hand. It was simply a question for Buddhists weather [sic, whether] they were willing to die at the Hands of Muslim separatists or try to prevail by fighting back.”

Read more at http://www.religionmind.com/2016/10/why-did-buddhist-monk-lead-mob-group.html#ya0QbShASSCAFQg2.99

    OnTheLeftCoast in reply to fscarn. | November 22, 2017 at 11:59 am

    Yes. Under the British, the essentially feudal Bengali system of landlord/tenant was brought to the Arakan Province of what was then Burma:

    “Thousands of Bengali [M[Muslim]easants from Chittagong District were brought to cultivate the soil (Report of the Settlement Operations in the Akyab District 1887-1888: 2, 21). Most of the Bengali immigrants were influenced by the Fara-i-di movement in Bengal that propagated the ideology of the Wahhabis of Arabia, which advocated settling ikhwan or brethren in agricultural communities near to the places of water resources. The peasants, according to the teaching, besides cultivating the land should be ready for waging a holy war upon the call by their lords. In the Maungdaw Township alone, there were, in the 1910s [d[decade]fifteen Bengali Zamindars who brought thousands of Chittagonian [M[Muslim]enants and established agricultural Muslim communities, building mosques with Islamic schools affiliated to them.”

    The British armed the Muslims in 1942, with the idea that they would fight the Japanese. Instead, they mostly became bandits preying on the Buddhist population… and never really stopped doing so.

    https://www.soas.ac.uk/sbbr/editions/file64388.pdf

      C. Lashown in reply to OnTheLeftCoast. | November 22, 2017 at 1:55 pm

      Sounds like the population is just taking out the ‘trash’, as it were. AND then here comes that great diplomat Tillerson coining a phrase like “RohingyaLivesMatter” and the world starts to drool. Next he’ll be telling China that “UyghurLivesMatter” or America that “TerroristLivesMatter”

If Islam’s status as a religion is valid, then religion should not have any status at all.

The Muslims started this war about 10 years ago. They did the usual Muslim thing and started raping and murdering young women. The Muslims finally met a population that took off its gloves and treats them as they treat others. Christians in Myanmar get along just fine with the Buddhists for the most part. Just as they do in Malaysia and Korea. It is always the Muslims that cause trouble.

    Matt_SE in reply to puhiawa. | November 22, 2017 at 12:12 pm

    Isn’t it funny how there’s only one member of the “Coexist” group that can’t get along?

      Gee, Aren’t Buddhists all mellow, peace-loving pacifist’s like Richard Gere and the Dalai Lama? When I was naive and uninformed, I was shocked to read the history of the Lamas in Tibet basically running the country like the most hardcore Sicilian Mafia. I’ve personally seen many so called devout Thai Buddhists go ape crazy violent too. Buddhists aren’t always the way western liberals paint them to be. They can go over the edge like the rest of us.

I suppose it is ethnic cleansing. But the Rohingya are not a great ethnicity, what with their propensity for Islamic violence.

Two days ago Tillerson deplored violence against trannies, and now he tacks a label on someone defending against an invasion by hostile Muslims.

Maybe he did refer to the President as “an idiot”, and has been given a series of useless tasks as penance.

By next week Tillerson may announce that he’s going to cut down the mightiest tree in the forest with a herring.

4th armored div | November 22, 2017 at 1:09 pm

Mary, on a personal basis, i would not anyone attacked –
BUT the Muslim indoctrination brooks no exceptions, in which case, while i would feel bad for the ignorant, unless this group changes ‘religion’, wipe them out!

this is what has happened to non Muslims over the centuries –
let the Saudis take them in, if they want to.

Is it just me? Am I just a myopic inbreed hillbilly redneck with slurred speech, unable to differentiate betwixt ‘right’ and ‘wrong’? I certainly wouldn’t classify myself as a ‘dew-gooder’ or great humanitarian intellectual. BUT…

Two Questions:
1] Why is it that everywhere you find Muslims you find blood and death? This is a consistently recurring issue, even in Muslim countries where the head-choppers govern.
2] Why is it that those who stringently oppose the Muslims atrocities end up being accused as perpetrators of great evil, while the Muslims end up being the ‘victims’?

    C. Lashown in reply to C. Lashown. | November 22, 2017 at 1:43 pm

    FURTHERMORE: Vlad III (known as Vlad the Impaler) prince of Wallachia ‘earned’ his reputation in Romania. The constant assaults of the Muslims against his little country needed a reminder of their reward….so he gave them a forest of impaled bodies to think upon. A bloody man, but if he wasn’t going to defend his country – who would?

    So Dracula the myth was born, a man of blood. I doubt he would fit into the effeminate world of today. The strong overpower the weak, and Myanmar has determined that on their own lands ‘they’ aren’t going to be the ones considered ‘weak’. Kill the invader.

    I’ve always wondered about David, the future king of Israel. Did those 100 Philistines give up their foreskins willingly, or did he have to kill them first to win his prize of brass, the kings daughter? Well, he was a man after God’s own heart, so he convinced them somehow! LOL

    gonzotx in reply to C. Lashown. | November 22, 2017 at 1:55 pm

    Follow the money, has to be, or fear of Islam, or both

They’re Muzzies. And they’ve been trying forever to slice off a piece of the country. Hey, payback is a bitch. Tillerson should keep his trap shut and let Myanmar deal with the situation. As far as these Rohingyas, well, I’m all out of Sh1ts to give.

Tillerson has got to go…

I wonder if he’s doing all these announcements as a “last minute “, out the door kind of thing.

Hoping anyway and that he’s replaced by Rudy or someone in the same vein…

Mary Chastain, before adopting the USA or UN position, you might bother to learn the backstory which has been published here and there in recent years. What would you say about a million Mexicans invading California, funded by the Mexican govt, who attempt to annex California to Mexico? I say good riddance, but my brothers who still live there would be in favor of pushing them back to Mexico.

    C. Lashown in reply to LWP. | November 22, 2017 at 6:07 pm

    re: “….but my brothers who still live there would be in favor of pushing them back to Mexico.”

    Do you mean hire about 500 lawyers, involve the UN and World powers while trying to ‘negotiate’ their peaceful withdrawal from American land? What about the ‘children’ who had born on American soil, along with their family members – were they allowed to ‘stay’? Would all their past ‘indiscretions’ be forgiven if these ‘new citizens’ decided they wanted to stay?

    Words are wonderful things. I’m sure they will convince all interlopers of the righteousness of those who transgressed against. Yes? They will salute California with a raised, single finger salute and braying laugh!

      Aarradin in reply to C. Lashown. | November 23, 2017 at 12:48 am

      Children of foreign nationals born in the US are citizens of their parent’s nation, NOT the US.

      So, yes, they get deported too.

      14th Amendment has TWO requirements “…AND subject to the jurisdiction thereof” was put there for the specific purpose of excluding the children of non-citizens born on US soil from being granted US citizenship at birth.

        Aarradin: 14th Amendment has TWO requirements “…AND subject to the jurisdiction thereof” was put there for the specific purpose of excluding the children of non-citizens born on US soil from being granted US citizenship at birth.

        That is not correct. Immigrants, documented or otherwise, are under the jurisdiction of the United States, and subject to the laws thereof. Some Indian tribes of the time, along with foreign diplomats, are the exceptions. Otherwise, everyone else born in the United States is a citizen. See United States v. Wong Kim Ark.

        Milhouse in reply to Aarradin. | November 24, 2017 at 3:03 pm

        Arradin, even you don’t believe what you wrote. You know perfectly well that it’s not true, but you wrote it anyway. That makes you a liar.

        You do not believe that foreign nationals, or their US-born children, are not subject to US jurisdiction. On the contrary, if you were harmed by a foreigner you’d insist he be arrested, tried, and punished. There are thousands of foreign nationals in our prisons; you do not believe they were all falsely imprisoned and should be released, nor do you believe the police who arrested them and the judges who tried them should be imprisoned in their place. Which means you believe they are under US jurisdiction after all, are required to obey our laws, and subject to arrest, trial, and punishment if they don’t. And that means their US-born children are citizens. You can’t have it both ways. So stop lying and claiming to believe the opposite.

Well, hopefully we won’t rush in there and start a war with Myanmar to protect the Muzzie minority. I was in Kosovo and know of what I speak. And hopefully in the future Mary won’t swallow this obvious propaganda hook, line, and sinker.

If we had people like this around during WWII, I’m sure Tillerson would have condemned the US for “ethnic cleansing” for driving the NAZI’s out of all the countries they had invaded.

Just how evil must you be, and for how long, before you’ve antagonized Buddhists to the point where they are willing to actually fight back?

Only Muslims have ever found out.

Foreigners invade your country, conquering territory and killing anyone that objects, and when you fight back the “international community” condemns you for doing so. And do NOT condemn the foreign invaders.

Only ever happens with Muslim invasions.

Sounds like the population is just taking out the ‘trash’, as it were.

I suppose it is ethnic cleansing. But the Rohingya are not a great ethnicity

wipe them out!

It’s amazing how many “conservatives” on this thread dehumanize the Rohingya, and condone ethnic cleansing or genocide.

Why does our state department not declare the Arabs guilty of ethnic cleansing with their decades old constant murderous actions against Israel??

    dunce1239: Why does our state department not declare the Arabs guilty of ethnic cleansing with their decades old constant murderous actions against Israel??

    That doesn’t constitute ethnic cleansing, though it still may be criminal when violence is directed against civilians. However, Jews have been forced out of many ancient communities in the Middle East. Arabs have been forced out by Kurds in Raqqa. Baghdad saw widespread ethnic cleansing neighborhood by neighborhood. And Myanmar’s military has forced out hundreds of thousands of Rohingya.

What exactly is wrong with ethnic cleansing? Were the Czechs wrong, after WW2, to rid themselves of the Germans who had brought the war upon them? What about the population exchanges between the Greeks and the Turks?

Mary, the US State Department’s agreement with you is not exactly a vindication. It’s more like a sign that you should reexamine your position.

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