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Gloria Allred Holds Press Conference With Roy Moore Accuser Beverly Nelson

Gloria Allred Holds Press Conference With Roy Moore Accuser Beverly Nelson

Says Roy Moore sexually assaulted her when she was 16 in car behind diner at which she worked.

Attorney Gloria Allred has scheduled a press conference at 2:30 PM EDT with an alleged Roy Moore accuser, adding to the dumpster fire of Alabama’s special senate election.

An article published by the Washington Post last week featured four women, one of whom allege Moore engaged in inappropriate sexual conduct when she was but a teenager and he was in his thirties. One of his accusers alleged Moore took her out on dates and bought her alcohol. At the time, she was 18 and the legal drinking age was 19. Moore said in an interview on Sean Hannity’s radio show last week that he remembers the woman, but doesn’t recall if they dated.

Monday afternoon, Gloria Allred joined Beverly Nelson, a fifth accuser, who alleged Moore acted inappropriately when she was a teenager.

A tearful Nelson told her story, alleging Moore forced himself on her while in a car. She was 16 at the time of the alleged incident. Summarized by the Chicago Tribune:

She said Moore was a regular customer at the restaurant where she worked after school in Gadsden, Ala. She said he would talk to her and sometimes pull the ends of her hair, which she considered flirtatious but didn’t bother her.

One night when she was 16, Moore offered to drive her home, she said, but instead parked the car behind the restaurant and touched her breasts and locked the door to keep her inside. She said he squeezed her neck while trying to push her head toward his crotch and tried to pull her shirt off.

Moore finally stopped and as she got out of the car, he warned her no one would believe because he was a county prosecutor, Nelson said. She said she quit her job the following day.

Nelson said that shortly before that, days before Christmas, she’d brought her high school yearbook to the restaurant and Moore signed it. A copy of her statement distributed at the news conference included a picture of what she said was his signature and a message saying, “To a sweeter more beautiful girl I could not say, ‘Merry Christmas.'”

Nelson said she told her younger sister about the incident two years later, told her mother four years ago and told her husband before they married. She said she and her husband supported Donald Trump for president.

https://www.clickondetroit.com/live/live-stream-gloria-allred-holds-press-conference-with-roy-moore-accuser

Press conference over. Will have better video when available and text of statement:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-UyKO5DfZ4

Full press conference here:

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BEFORE THE PRESS CONFERENCE:

Since the allegations broke, Moore has conceding dating younger women and said he knows two of his accusers, but not the youngest two. Moore remains vehement in his denial of the allegations and contends a conspiracy was set in motion to derail his senate bid. Before the allegations broke, Moore maintained a nine-point lead over his Democratic opponent.

The entire ordeal is shaping up perfectly along predictable factions. Republican mainliners are siding with accusers and withdrawing support (most of them had backed Moore’s Republican primary opponent Luther Strange). Conservative Senator Mike Lee withdrew his endorsement of Moore and Sen. Cruz called the allegations ‘serious and disturbing’ and said Moore should withdraw from the race if the allegations are true.

Senate Majority leader McConnell graduated from the “if true” qualifier Monday, saying he believes Moore’s accusers:

Moore would hear none of it:

Sens Snow and Hatch joined the calls for withdrawal:

The allegations aside, the entire ordeal is the perfect establishment and media vs. (what used to be Tea Party) populist underdog candidate.

Myself and others believe that the allegations, the media frenzy, and the calls to withdraw by so-called establishment Republicans serve to embolden Moore’s support.

And from the ground:

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News Flash: Young men are attracted to young women! You heard it here first!

    gospace in reply to snopercod. | November 13, 2017 at 2:58 pm

    News Flash: Further research has shown old men are also attracted to young women!

    Absolute proof that young women are dangerously seductive and must be covered with niqab or burqa to protect men from their seductiveness!

      Old0311 in reply to gospace. | November 13, 2017 at 5:32 pm

      We need good sense young woman control. Before you speak to one, call the FBI database and find out if she is bat shit crazy.

        xdevildog in reply to Old0311. | November 13, 2017 at 9:21 pm

        Ah, if only it were so. I’d vote for more money to the FBI so they could do the interviews necessary to create the data base!

        Personal note, when our daughter was engaged the son and I decided the prospective groom was a decent sort and tried to warn him. “Look, we have lived with her for 20 years and we love her dearly, but she is bat shit crazy.” Of course, he wasn’t thinking with the right head so we may as well have been reading the weather report to him. After ten years of marriage whenever he tries to whine to us about her we remind him of that attempt.

    Yes, because “young men are attracted to young women” is exactly like a 34 year old man dating a 14 year old girl, or 16 year old for that matter.

    Please note I make no claims to the validity of the accusations of Ms. Corfman; rather I am commenting on the absurdity of your pathetic attempt at moral equivalence.

      Close The Fed in reply to Casey. | November 13, 2017 at 7:38 pm

      My Dad is 22 years older than my Mom.
      Pretty sure she was 18 when they married.
      They got married in the mid-50s.

      Exiliado in reply to Casey. | November 13, 2017 at 8:22 pm

      When my parents married she was 14 and he was 25.
      That was in the late sixties. They are still together.
      They had kids and we came out decent, productive members of society, with our ups and downs just like everybody else.

      Times have changed, and we have changed with them, and our values have changed with them too.

ugottabekiddinme | November 13, 2017 at 2:59 pm

Gloria Allred (bless her heart) with her Hollywood values will surely win the hearts and minds of Alabamans. Not.

Where was Gloria Allred when her daughter Lisa Bloom was defending Harvey Weinstein a few days ago. Ms. Allred needs to change her act. The videos of her recent Presidential campaign accusations. all look very similar.

Correction, Kemberlee. Only one of the women in the WaPo report alleged “inappropriate sexual conduct.” The other three allege nothing illegal or immoral. At this moment, I have no idea what Allred’s client alleges; I don’t think I’ll listen. Somebody who does will surely report on it.

The truth seems obscure at this point. Alabama voters may or may not follow the lead of the MSM and mainstream GOP critics. If I were there, I would be very, very uneasy about electing a Democrat whose policy positions are so radically different from mine.

Haven’t heard Allred’s new accuser, but EVEN IF TRUE, does 35 years of good behavior after a barely noteworthy mistake, mean you can never redeem yourself with good behavior, and are forever a condemned person?

I’ve done far worse, and I hope I learned something and corrected myself. Is self-correction for naught? Is experience in the school of hard knocks a useless education?

Seriously, this ridiculously high standard, among Ted Kennedy, Barney Frank, Al Sharpton, Mrs. Jeb Bush, and too many others to count (Reagan signing abortion bill and amnesty), renders the standard ridiculous.

    So you’re using the “they do it too” defense, then?

    Nice…

      Close The Fed in reply to Casey. | November 13, 2017 at 7:52 pm

      Re Casey:

      You’re deliberately being obtuse.

      I’m agnostic, but Christianity and just general decency, preaches one should try to repent and improve. It appears that IF he did this, he quit doing it.

      So, how long is the sentence for making this type of mistake, IF true?

      I’d say that he’s served that sentence.

      Under your deliberate denseness, no one would ever be able to move on from a mistake in life, even fairly small ones. No one actually wants to live in that intolerant and miserable world.

      Close The Fed in reply to Casey. | November 13, 2017 at 7:54 pm

      Re Casey:

      Also, I reject the GOPe circular firing squad.
      I reject electing a dem who supports partial birth abortion.
      NO ONE think Moore would vote for that. NO ONE.
      Morally speaking, there is an obligation to vote for Moore.

      How many lives can LITERALLY be spared from vivisection?

Couldn’t pick a better ambulance chaser than Gloria, who is past her expiration date… she has become a clown

If we’re talking about a crime, and have something approaching a legal standard of evidence, that’s important. It seems counterproductive to send a criminal to the legislature.

And I don’t consider anything a woman says to be useful testimony. Sorry, but I’ve listened to far too many women for the greater part of the last century, and heard it all in far too many languages, to believe anything else.

Anything short of a bona-fide crime by Moore, and I’m just out of shits to give.

If Allred, McConnell, McCain, Hatch, Snow, and the rest of the denizens of Milton’s pandemonium are his enemies, then Moore can count on a lot of guaranteed votes.

“Attorney Gloria Allred.” Follow the $$$. Like all parasites Allred has to eat, too.

Hey, remember when a gaggle of congress critters called for the resignation of Sen. Bob Menedez(D) when his bribery & corruption trial started 60+ days ago (along with the salacious tidbit that he had sex w/ underage hookers in Dominican Republic)??

Me neither. Follow the $$$ in this inquisition. It may lede all the way back to yertle turtle McConnell’s senate campaign slush fund – because the only people who hate Conservstives more than the Democrat Party is the Republican Party.

Do you remember Jerry Lee Louis and his 13 year old cousin he married?
The South was always backward or behind the times on cultural issues.
I’m guessing this was not at all unusual at the time. Just my HO

    star1701gazer in reply to gonzotx. | November 13, 2017 at 11:50 pm

    Absolutely right gonzo! In the South, it was not uncommon for young women to marry much older men (with the permission and blessing of their family). It was not uncommon for an established man of around 30 to marry a young woman in the 15 to 18 y.o. range. Newspapers in the 50’s, 60’s, and well into the 70’s carried the wedding announcements without any backlash. It was normal for the times and that part of the country. One of my Aunts was married at 14. People tend to forget that times and customs change!

2nd Ammendment Mother | November 13, 2017 at 3:25 pm

I don’t know whether he did it or not….I suspect, most of the country think this whole thing smells way too convenient, especially the timing. Add in Gloria Allred’s involvement and it certainly smells to high heaven.

In the meantime…… I would love to see some enterprising website run a retrospective on the most popular movies and tv shows in the 70’s with the racy and sexually liberalized culture. Everything wasn’t The Brady Bunch and the Walton’s.

Paul In Sweden | November 13, 2017 at 3:53 pm

Gloria Allred literally dragging another woman by the arm to act as her prop for the cameras and microphones. We have seen these Gloria Allred stunts time and time again.

    I knew Allred was involved when the tears started running out of the speakers of my truck on the way home.

    They all follow pretty much the same script, and for some reason, have to read their accusations from a script while Gloria does her “concern” act and steadies them.

    When the hell are people going to run this career-ruining witch out of town on a rail?

The left keeps on saying how this is an outrage and all I can hear is the name Anita Hill.

Wow, this sure looks scripted. I can’t wait to see how this comes out. The pop corn is popping.

Hey Gloria–you’ve become a tired, one-trick pony. This didn’t work too well last year before the election, remember?

With Gloria entering the fray it’s officially a clown show. Now all she needs is her daughter who worked for Harvy Weinstein to join her.

Ho hum. Same old playbook, different day. The anti-American front has poisoned the well for these allegations against Moore. It might actually have gotten traction if we had not just witnessed how the “victims” of sexual harassment, at the hands of men, hadn’t been crawling out of the woodwork for the last three weeks following the initial complaints against Weinstein. Now it is just more people playing the victim card for personal gain.

The moment that Gloria Allred inserted herself into this situation, it destroyed the credibility of the whole thing. Now, the only people who will give it any credit for being true are those who were against Moore’s candidacy to begin with. Whether true or not, it now has zero credibility. For those who were undecided, or leaning toward belief, that ship just sailed.

Thank you, Gloria.

4th armored div | November 13, 2017 at 4:34 pm

is this one of the drag a $100 bill and see who comes out ?

the (D)’s ALWAYS protect their own and the (R)’s never protect conservatives.

how does someone prove their innocence, especially after 30+ years ?
Moore has been married once in the past 30+ years.
how many of the Congress Swamp Rats can claim the same ?
how many of them chested on their wives, taken ‘gifts’ while in office or gotten lobbying jobs, while in or directly out as deferred compensation ?

HOW MANY ARE SIMON PURE ?????

that said, i have no idea how clean or dirty he is, i do know that mot of the others need to wash up for hours after coming home to get rid of their stench.

i know that if Moore wins and is refused his seat, that the rank and file of conservative voters will hold them to the SAME standard, which means that most of them will be primaryed.

those of us who want a semblance of moral normalcy return to the USA seem not to have ANY PARTY to go to.

as for the rags types who have blinders on in regards to DJT,
POTUS is trying mightily to keep his promises – Stock market up, fuel prices stable or down, jobs up – what more can one expect?

Today Mitch McConnell, who has called for Boston to praise molester Ted Kennedy. The accusations against Moore took place about the same time Teddy ‘dropped off” Mary Jo Kopeckne after their date.

Miss Lindsey, who also called for Ray Moore, to step aside, was a character witness for Robert Menendez. You can cut the hypocrisy with a knife.

Next Hillary will accuse Roy Moore of hitting on her when she was in Alabama 45 years ago.

    murkyv in reply to bw222. | November 13, 2017 at 6:42 pm

    Gotta wonder how many 14 yo girls Hillary took out for pizza while in Arkansas.

    The rumors about Hilldogs “preference” date back as far as the accusations against Moore

In a car behind a diner? Wow, talk about stereotype, there’s one there.

Again, this doesn’t fit in with what the other accuser accused. People, especially abusers, have patterns of behavior. His pattern of behavior was established by the 3 who described someone who took them to dinner and places in public, and wasn’t sexually aggressive. They’re going to need another 5 or 6 accusers all with different abuse patterns before we can see he’s an evil genius who established a pattern of innocuous behavior with young ones in public, and a non-pattern of abusive behavior in private so he couldn’t be pinned down.

Okay, if this assault happened the way the woman says it did, then there should be witnesses who can corroborate her story.

The boyfriend who she says pulled into the parking lot and helped end the assault. He can come forward and tell that he saw the girl on the pavement, with her clothes askew, red marks on her neck, upset and frightened, etc. Let’s hear from him.

And she says she had bruises on her neck the next day, and that she told her parents and siblings what had happened. So they can come forward now and confirm they saw the bruises, and that she told them Moore attacked her. Let’s hear from them.

I’d also be curious to hear from the boyfriend and family why they didn’t go to police. I can understand the girl being frightened of Moore, but why didn’t the adults do something? And why, if they knew that Roy Moore had sexually assaulted the 16-year old, did they all keep silent about it for 40 years?

    Observer in reply to Observer. | November 13, 2017 at 6:41 pm

    The Daily Mail article says that the accuser didn’t tell her boyfriend what had happened because she was afraid he would be violent. But since she says that he came into the parking lot right after it happened, how did he not notice that she’d been crying and that her neck had red marks on it?

    The DM article also says that she did not tell her sister until two years later, and didn’t tell her mother until four years ago. (I see that that information is also in the article here now, although it didn’t appear here when I wrote my first comment). The DM article also says she hid her neck bruises with makeup. So apparently there is no one who can corroborate her account.

I still don’t know if these two charges are true — the first, of misconduct, the second, of assault. I share the above opinions of Gloria Allred. However, politically speaking, this is probably the end for the Moore candidacy.

The best immediate reaction I’ve seen is the idea that Luther Strange should resign, Jeff Sessions be appointed to his old seat, and a new AG nominated. If that’s not it, the AL governor needs to do something about the election date.

Moore’s bio says he graduated from law school in 1977, and worked in the D.A.’s office from 1977 to 1982.

This accuser says that she and her family didn’t report Moore’s sexual assault on her when it happened because Moore was too powerful in the town. But in December of 1977, when she says this assault occurred, Moore was just a few months out of law school and a new hire in the D.A.’s office. So just how powerful could he have been?

    Milhouse in reply to Observer. | November 13, 2017 at 11:33 pm

    Reminds me of the people who claimed W Bush got into TANG because of his father’s pull, at a time when his father was a R congressman in a very D state, under a D administration, and in a D-controlled House, and thus had very little pull.

Herman Cain just checked in to ask for his reputation back. ( just think of the number of times this same tactic has been used )

theduchessofkitty | November 13, 2017 at 5:47 pm

If this is all it takes for Democrats to regain control of the U.S. Senate… congratulations.

Since I’m not from AL, I don’t have a dog in this hunt. But when the usual suspects get involved in stuff like this, I immediately ignore it.

Allred is an attention-seeking, ambulance-chasing, men-destroying harpy. She should have ZERO credibility. The fact that she was a delegate to the DNC for enabler Hillary should tell you all you need to know.

    Rick the Curmudgeon in reply to theduchessofkitty. | November 13, 2017 at 6:28 pm

    We’ve all got skin in this game. If McConnell’s plan succeeds, then Chuck Schumer will be the defacto Senate Majority Leader and will control the next SCOTUS appointments.

Allred involved in taking down a man on nebulous hearsay with no proof (but lots of pretty sketches). Meanwhile, Allred’s daughter Lisa Bloom is defending Weinstein, against whom there are actual police reports.

I was tempted to take the accusations seriously until Gloria got involved.

Now I know it’s a distraction from all the democrats being arrested for kiddie porn.

This is who he has broken just today…
Christopher Wright – Dawson, Georgia
Richard Keenan – Hubbard, Ohio
Kennith Lewis Barrett – Winston, Oregon
Phillip Ahr – Radnor Township, Pennsylvania
Dwayne Schutt – Randolph, Nebraska
Dale Kenyon – Clayton, New York
Donald Briggs – Millbrook, New York
Rick Nelson – Stillwater, New York
Darral Gene Walker – Rockdale, Texas
Ed Murray – Seattle, Washington
and Jacob Schwartz, who was an aide and was on CNN.

If Moore drops out of the race now, then this will become the standard operating procedure for all elections. Wait until there is a candidate and then bring on the allegations.

Of course this will effective only on Rs and the establishment Rs will be involved. The slime will just slip off the Ds.

(She’s) Sexy + 17, 1983, Stray Cats
Seventeen, 1988, Winger
You’re 16, 1960, Johnny Burnette; 1973, Ringo Starr
When I Kissed the Teacher, 1976, ABBA

Just 4 off the top of my head about relationships with under 18 year old women. With the ABBA song having the woman initiating it.

Doesn’t seem to be something popular culture really has a problem with. Suddenly, bunches of prudes appear to condemn a 30 something man who likes younger women. I can’t say Puritan’s because I’ve done too much family research, and back in Puritan days an older man with a much younger wife, often in her teens, was not rare. Almost never the first wife, but after the first wife died in childbirth or from a disease that antibiotics could cure.

Husband/wife being just a few years apart or the same age as a cultural norm is relatively new in history. It’s neither a bad thing nor good thing, but relatively new.

Judge Moore’s Wife Kayla Moore: We Are Gathering Evidence of Money Being Paid to Accusers

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/judge-moores-wife-kayla-moore-gathering-evidence-money-paid-accusers/

My wife is 17 years younger than me.
Every morning and every night I look at her and my 2, and soon to be 3, little girls and think, boy you won the lottery.

In any event, the future of our Republic is at stake.
If Bill Clinton can get a pass for 20 years, so can Roy.

Less GOPe rats, more Moore.

Guys, give it up. The Democrats will pick all candidates, and the NeverTrumpers and GOPe will cheer.

I have trouble with a key comment. If she was in the front seat of the car, the lock would open if the door hand was used on most cars older than 1980. I would love to have the handwriting analyzed too. Any chance they pull a GW Bush fake letter here. Examining the year book might add a little light to this too.

If he was a flirt and a regular at the place, he might have sign the book and their is a chance she might have even ask him to.

I wonder what kind of car he had?

    Any 1977 or earlier car would allow a locked door to open from the inside.

    Yearbook’s been examined. Forgery.

    When did school yearbooks come out at Christmas?

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/fake-analyst-says-judge-roy-moore-signature-inside-gloria-allred-accusers-yearbook-forged/

      Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | November 13, 2017 at 11:29 pm

      “Analyst”…???

      You mean blog hack, right?

      I’ve used handwriting experts in court, and they DO NOT offer opinions on ONE sample.

      This puke is no authority except on Dim Jim’s cartoon blog.

        Ah. Poor rags balloon is busted.

        Yearbook at Christmas. Yea, pull the other one. Your high school hand out yearbooks at Christmas?

        Authority you are not.

          Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | November 14, 2017 at 12:19 am

          Ever heard of semesters, moron?

          Now, YOU provide proof that the schools in Gadsdon DID NOT graduate mid-year.

          You really are too stupid for me to bother with.

          Barry in reply to Barry. | November 14, 2017 at 12:48 am

          Why don’t you prove they did.

          While I suppose it is possible, it would be a highly unusual school system that created two yearbooks every year.

          Stupid is your middle name.

          So, possible it was different in 1977, but unlikely.
          They issue the yearbook (might be a clue for a moron, yearbook) in August after the previous schoolyear.
          http://sshs.ecboe.org/UserFiles/Servers/Server_26684/File/Yearbook/Yearbook%20commonly%20asked%20questions.pdf

          Barry in reply to Barry. | November 14, 2017 at 12:55 am

          “We create a comprehensive yearbook. It covers the first day of school until Graduation. Our staff continues to work on the yearbook once the school year had ended. Our books are published in the summer and generally delivered to SHS in August. They will be available for pick up the first week of school. Please call a day ahead to let us know when you will pick up your book and we will have it available in the office for you. It’s a good idea to bring your receipt with you.”

          You and Gloria keep selling that horsepucky.

          mailman in reply to Barry. | November 14, 2017 at 5:33 am

          Can you hear that noise Barry? Its Rags balloon deflating L)

          Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | November 14, 2017 at 2:23 pm

          Cool quote from NOW.

          How ’bout in the period in question?

          Barry in reply to Barry. | November 14, 2017 at 4:05 pm

          Go dig it up yourself you idiot. You’re the one claiming schools issue “yearbooks” twice a year. Just dig up any high school anywhere that does that.

          By itself it proves nothing. The handwriting fail, the new for today fact that everything after “Roy” is a different ink…
          Some of us are not gullible enough to fall for you prog trickery.

I read a great comment about the Post story. “It was written by elites to be read by elites.” None of these people understand Alabama.

I spent decades there. The people are great and decent. They are not anti-God, identity politics morons like in DC. If there are no reports of him with younger women after he got married then this is a culture issue, not a crime like some idiots on the Left claim.

With that let me make two points.

1. They do not understand 1979 Alabama. It was a different culture. Back then girls married young. Get out of high school and go to college or get married. No millennials living in their mother’s basement until 30. If you didn’t get a young woman early, and you came home at the age of 32, you would face slim pickings. The women your age would be divorced and had luggage, or have something wrong with them. So you had to move down until you hit 20 or around that. It just is. It was about finding a good girl, marrying her and starting a family. Something the progressive Left doesn’t get.

On the family side the parents were looking for a good man who could provide for their daughter and take care of her. Age was not as big an issue. (BTW nobody on the Left says anything about Sly and his wife or after the age disparity marriages we see in Hollywood or in elite circles.)

Moore cannot articulate a culture that far back. That is why he stumbles. However, the same people who find that icky have no problem supporting Muslim cultures who marry nine year olds. “That’s a different culture, we must understand,” they say. But not American Alabama because those are retarded redneck pervs (to quote a comment I read).

2. No way a haughty dismissive DC reporter from the Post could fly into Alabama- a place they could not find on a map!- and wander around and find four separate women. Impossible. I know those people, they will not talk to the DC insider, so this has to be a set up. I’d be curious to find out who is behind all of this and how much money was thrown around.

I hope Moore wins and ends up in the Senate. Like Trump the “establishment” in both parties and their deep state supporters want to either run him off or neuter him before he gets there.

They are afraid he will burn their playhouse down.

Also, if Moore is run off, then the die will be cast for any future REPUBLICAN politicians nobody wants- like Cruz or Lee. All they have to do is drag out some old accusation, with no proof and boom- he’s done.

Of course, not so for democrats. Although it would be fun to find some woman who knew Schumer back in the seventies to say he went after her- a lie of course- but fun to see him squirm. Hey, Chuckie, you quittin’?

Now we are hearing that handwriting analysis are indicating that what was written in the yearbook was written by two different people.

If they forged it, things will really blow up. Especially if they used current hand writing sample verse ones from the 70’s.

Second batch of pop corn popping. Even if Moore is guilty of said actions, he has no choice but to fight them now.

This is going to be like a bowling ball hitting the front pin for a strike and pins are going to go flying on a lot of people besides Moore. Yea ha.

“All they have to do is drag out some old accusation, with no proof and boom- he’s done.”

Or make up a new accusation, out of whole cloth.

What was Senator Ted Stevens, of Alaska, convicted of, remind me?
Nothing. But the prosecutors hid that until after the election.

The Democrat politicians don’t need to worry. Their groupies will put out for them. However, Mary Jo wasn’t available for comment.

On the legal side of things, custody of the so called yearbook for this many years makes things really suspect.

    Ragspierre in reply to MarkSmith. | November 13, 2017 at 11:23 pm

    On the legal side of things, you’re a complete idiot.

    Ragspierre in reply to MarkSmith. | November 14, 2017 at 12:02 am

    Since you stepped off into that quick-sand, why don’t you take the opportunity to elaborate. “Legally speaking”, for course!

    This will be fun…!!!

      If I give a thumbs down, I write a comment. This is legally a crap case for all of the reasons that the commenters here have stated. Read Huff post comments and see the excellent legal reasoning there. Trump caught making comments to Billy Bush proves Moore is guilty. Republicans are hypocrites; therefore, Moore is guilty. And on and on.

        Ragspierre in reply to willow. | November 14, 2017 at 2:21 pm

        You start off SEEMING to want to make a legal argument, then you spin off into all kinds of other, extraneous bullshit.

        Try to concentrate. The moronic poster suggested that “chain of custody” would be a “suspect” factor.

        Go for it. Using the law. I’ll be delighted to hear back!

Clarence Thomas.
Herman Cain.
Ben Carson.
Same damn demoncrap shenanigans.
They made the decision to try this tactic out one more time to see if it will work.
Just my opinion, but Cain and Carson pulled the plug on their campaigns because they knew their chances were slim and none anyway.

I can’t predict what Judge Moore will do, but I will bet that if he decides to pull out of the race, these women will disappear right back into the wood work just like those who were accusing Cain and Carson.

One of the things hardly mentioned, is dougie jones and his positions.
Big. time; liberal. My arguments earlier this morning with libs on another site was I’d rather pick Moore than jones who supports letting pervert predators declare they’re female so as to attack our defenseless little girls in the sanctity of their bathroom.
Pisses the libs off big time. With this new accuser I’ll still use the same line, but we do need the dumpster fire picture for this election.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/11/the_real_scandal_in_the_alabama_senate_race.html

Democrat Doug Jones, Moore’s opponent, has some noteworthy positions. He’s pro-prenatal infanticide/
Jones supports de-facto amnesty/
Jones supports the regulation of carbon dioxide/
he also supports allowing boys masquerading as girls to use girls’ bathrooms and locker rooms/
Jones advocates the unscientific, socially disastrous “transgender” agenda/
Jones advocates using taxpayer money to fund fanciful, economically unviable energy schemes such as solar, wind and thermal energy/

Moore has screwed his pooch.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2017/11/13/new-accuser-moore-flirtatiously-signed-my-high-school-year-book-assaulted-me-in-a-parking-lot-n2408858

He’s made concrete denials that are WAY too easily shown to be lies.

People…men and women…will now come out with their memories of Moore, the restaurant, and the girl.

I believed Juanita Broderick. I believe Beverly Nelson. Regardless of the “guilt by association” piffle here.

    mailman in reply to Ragspierre. | November 14, 2017 at 5:28 am

    Hmmmmm…seems to be talk of forgery involved here. Of course being the open minded and honest person you are Rags you are already all over this like a fat chick in a chocolate factory HAHAHAHAHAHA.

      Ragspierre in reply to mailman. | November 14, 2017 at 2:37 pm

      Hmmm…seems there was LOT of bullshit floating on the scum pond about a LEO investigation of offers of money to concoct a story.

      How’s that working for ya, Princess Di…???

What do you mean “fifth accuser,” Kemberlee? How does it make sense to call someone who merely dated Moore an accuser?

4Chan is reporting that her voting record indicated that she did not vote. She said she voted for Trump.

Next, all red will drag out a porn star to accuse Moore.

I feel sorry for the suckers that actually believe this shit. They keep doing the same thing and you keep falling for it.

I predict they’ll drag out a few more, just as hokey as the first two.

    Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | November 13, 2017 at 11:37 pm

    Wow…!!!

    Nostradamus in hindsight….!!!

    Impressive, since there are now a parade of Gadsdon citizens who have verified the conduct of Moore.

    AND, OH YEAH, there will be MORE…!!!

      Lesee, now we add you as a Gloria Allred fan. She’s always representing such honest people.

      You’re just a prog. A gullible prog.

      Where is that parade? Verified? Remember how you chastised a poster for that kind of hooey?

      There is no crime in dating people younger than you, nor is it immoral. The rest is just made up.

      You know it. But it suits you. There is no proof, just allegations, but you, a lawyer, swallow it all, hook, line, and sinker.

        Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | November 14, 2017 at 12:09 am

        “Lesee, now we add you as a Gloria Allred fan.”

        Lesse. THAT’s a lie, and YOU are a LIAR!

        Again.

        Some more.

        Another time.

        What a puke.

        Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | November 14, 2017 at 12:12 am

        “There is no proof, just allegations, but you, a lawyer, swallow it all, hook, line, and sinker.”

        No. That’s just more of your lies.

        Did you believe Juanita Broderick? I did. Why? Because it was consistent with what else we knew.

          “Because it was consistent with what else we knew.”

          One is not remotely the same as the other. You are not intelligent enough to discern the difference.

          I bet you believed the Rolling Stone story, the Duke rape as well. You’ll believe anything.

          Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | November 14, 2017 at 9:39 am

          You lose. And you’re a lying idiot in the bargain! Sad for you.

          There’s a record of my comments on both the Duke case and the “Rolling Stone” case. I was very critical of both accusations and the prosecution in the one case and the publication in the other.

          As between you and I, you are the dupe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItqwXeThHYo

Watch, learn, and (many of you) be ashamed.

    Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | November 14, 2017 at 12:05 am

    I know you didn’t take the time to listen before you down-voted my comment, so it’s apparent you are just a knee-jerk.

      Hey, you and your video buddy still trying to sell the Lewandoski “assault”?

      Yea, thought so. The pair of you are as credible as Gloria Allred.

      Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | November 14, 2017 at 12:15 am

      And you’re still sucking “Lady Killer” LawdiLOUSKi.

      And pretending that’s some article of faith. Whadda moron.

        I must have missed the prosecution.

        No, it didn’t happen. Nothing to prosecute. Just made up lies.

          Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | November 14, 2017 at 3:08 pm

          So, because prosecutors declined to prosecute, it didn’t happen.

          So Hellery didn’t commit any crimes.

          What a lying jerk. And what a filthy T-rump sucking cultist.

          Barry in reply to Barry. | November 14, 2017 at 4:11 pm

          “So, because prosecutors declined to prosecute, it didn’t happen.”

          There was direct video evidence. The prosecutors looked, saw it was bogus.

          You and your video buddy closed your eyes and said it was assault, because you hate Trump and love liars.

          Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | November 14, 2017 at 4:40 pm

          “There was direct video evidence. The prosecutors looked, saw it was bogus.”

          That’s a myth you fully embraced. Like several others. You’re a nutter, Butt-hurt. You simply are.

          Barry in reply to Barry. | November 14, 2017 at 9:18 pm

          I’ve never known someone so insistent on showing what a moron they are.
          The video is there for everyone to see. The prosecutor saw it. The cops saw it.

          Why didn’t they prosecute then, oh great lawyer?

          Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | November 14, 2017 at 9:36 pm

          Yeah, and the prosecutors considered a prosecution, didn’t they?

          Why did they decide against pursuing it?

          I’m a civil trial lawyer, not a mind reader.

          And the lack of a prosecution doesn’t support your myth.

It’s very important to get a Republican in this Senate seat. The Democrat wouldn’t represent the policy views of the current voting majority in Alabama.

The Alabama governor needs to think clearly about what to do here. Can Moore debunk these accusations in time? If not, what’s the plan?

“Myself and others believe that the allegations, the media frenzy, and the calls to withdraw by so-called establishment Republicans serve to embolden Moore’s support.”

True. One of the thing the Democrats just don’t understand is how angry Texas women got at HRC for talking about all the misogyny in this country during the campaign. Those were their husbands and sons she was talking about. They voted Trump.

It isn’t just Allred getting involved that will pump up support for Moore. The cherry on top is that she held her presser in a NYC hotel.

Trump is one thing. That’s another.

By the way ladies, if a man who you claim tried to rape you signed your year book, I’m sure you would treasure it for forty years. Wouldn’t you?

Why would a young girl who was almost raped by some guy ask that guy to sign her yearbook.

Gateway pundit has some interesting commentary on how the alleged Roy Moore signing looks like it was signed by two different people. The 7s in the dates don’t match up. Possibly the signature is a bad forgery.

Also signature refers to “Olde Hickory House” but that restaurant was known as “Old Hickory House”

    Ragspierre in reply to garybritt. | November 14, 2017 at 11:27 am

    “Why would a young girl who was almost raped by some guy ask that guy to sign her yearbook.”

    You know, Gari (The Liar) Britt, sometimes I think you just toy with idiots here to see what you can get away with, and what they’ll vote for.

Also,why did she carry her yearbook around at the job and give it to a man she was not interested in to sign? He dated younger women, and he comes across as evasive because admitting to dating younger women in the climate of today does not bode well for any public figure. Dating and raping are not interchangeable under the law.

    Close The Fed in reply to willow. | November 14, 2017 at 12:02 pm

    To Willow:

    In high school, for some period of time, days or a couple of weeks, we carried ours around, to get everybody to sign!!!!

    If she worked close to the school, she probably just would have had it with her at the diner.

    I can imagine her just having it on the counter in a small town diner, and showing it to her favorite customers.

The fake yearbook signature is easier to prove than the Dan Rather debacle.

    Matt_SE in reply to willow. | November 14, 2017 at 11:53 am

    It would be, except that such evidence will never be reviewed by a court. With the statute of limitations expired, it is impossible that this matter will be adjudicated.

    …exactly as planned.

    Ragspierre in reply to willow. | November 14, 2017 at 1:49 pm

    Moore has threatened a law suit. Maybe he will rectify that to SEVERAL lawsuits.

    We can then vet the evidence, including testimony, and including that claim that there was an offer of payment for lying.

    Any word on that FBI/local LEO investigation of the latter BS?

    OTOH, I doubt Moore will ever file ANY lawsuit connected with this matter.

What’s become apparent here is that most would defend Dollar Bill Clinton if he’d had an R behind his name, and pretended to be a conservative.

And with astounding, disgusting energy.

Today will be interesting…

    mailman in reply to Ragspierre. | November 14, 2017 at 11:05 am

    With the only slightly inconvenient difference being Clinton actually DID commit rape and adultery WHILE Moore is merely accused of having looked at a teenager sideways.

    I think what you will see is that people here would actually defend the right to being innocent UNTIL proven guilty regardless (yes, even for you Rags) of political stance.

      Ragspierre in reply to mailman. | November 14, 2017 at 11:16 am

      No, Princess Di, that’s solely a legal fiction applied in our criminal law when the state seeks to take away life, liberty or property.

      Did OJ kill his ex-wife?

      Did Dollar Bill rape Juanita Broderick?

      Has Hellary committed any crime?

Every politician with an R behind his name, claiming to be a “conservative,” has been staunchly defended? Is Moore pretending to be a conservative?

There should be an investigation as to whether the women were paid. Where is the original yearbook? Let’s look at the signatures AND the age of the writing. It could be Moore wrote the first part and his signature was forged using newer ink, pens etc.

If I were Moore and knew this was crap I would insist on the analysis.

I would find out if the women were paid and who paid. He has to hold the line, not just for himself but for the Republicans who foolishly think they won’t be next.

    mailman in reply to archer52. | November 14, 2017 at 11:07 am

    I guarantee you that the second Moore steps aside all of these accusers will conveniently disappear…you know, like the ones Clinton tried to wrangle up against Trump last year. Gee, I wonder where they are now?

      Ragspierre in reply to mailman. | November 14, 2017 at 11:19 am

      Because you haven’t read about them, they don’t cease to exist and their allegations have not gone away.

      Remember the pledges from T-rump AND Pence that proofs were on the way? I do. Never saw any.

      Remember Donald Ducks pledging to sue everyone to pieces? I do. Cite the cause numbers for me, Limey.

        mailman in reply to Ragspierre. | November 14, 2017 at 11:44 am

        One doesn’t read about them because they don’t exist Rags.

        But hey, if you continue to insist on being wrong then who are we to stop you from opening your mouth and confirm what we all believe is actually true.

          Ragspierre in reply to mailman. | November 14, 2017 at 11:55 am

          Sure they exist. In reality. You know, the corporal world? They have names. They have stories.

          Who do you think Donald Ducks was threatening to sue, ya moron?

        Matt_SE in reply to Ragspierre. | November 14, 2017 at 11:56 am

        “Because you haven’t read about them, they don’t cease to exist and their allegations have not gone away.”

        If the cases exist, it should be very easy for you to cite them. I’m betting you can’t cite them because they don’t exist.

If Moore like younger women, and he does. He married a 23yr old widow when he was 38. Then there should be a history of that AFTER he was married. If not, he was just a guy in Alabama in 1979 looking for a wife, he’s part of a greater culture that was 1979 Alabama. Doesn’t excuse any bad behavior, if it occurred, but it does explain looking for eligible younger women. That would have been the pool to search in for a wife.

However, his forty year old signature written in a yearbook at a restaurant is exactly the same as the signature published on a recent document.

Nobody does that.

But why? Why is the Left working so hard?

Moore is a guy who reminds people of a time the Left has worked out to eliminate. Where humans are either male or female, that trangenders do not control the narrative, that people treated people as they are, not as they claim. That God has a say in things. This guy gets seated in the Senate, they will lose their minds!!

And remember, Reid lied about Romney tax returns. And got away with it. HRC hired Fusion to create a fake dossier to destroy her opponent and lied about it and started a federal investigation by pushing it into the FBI. (A crime by the way)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/15/harry-reid-lied-about-mitt-romneys-taxes-hes-still-not-sorry/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/26/fusion-gps-scandal-clinton-dnc-broke-campaign-finance-law-with-dossier-funding-complaint-says.html

So why is this true?

Remember who they are. They live by the mantra. “The end justifies the means.” Folks this is a war we cannot lose.

Hold the line.

The latest events show just how perilous it is to jump into a debate about ancient sexcapades. Since the statute of limitations has expired, there can be no prosecution of Moore for any of his past misdeeds. I am of a mind that the first few women to come forward had enough baggage to make me have doubts but since then there are just too many normal, nothing to gain, women who are now emerging to discredit Moore’s original claim of innocence. The sad thing is that it looks like once he married and settled down he has led a good life as a husband, father, and grandfather. Now all of that is going to end. It basically means that what you have done in your life, no matter how long ago, is just waiting to be exposed to ruin anything you have done since. Think of all the rehab claims of prisoners and how under this current Demorat scheme of always guilty for life would impact their lives. Maybe if Moore had come forward after the first claims and said he did have a problem at one time but had since worked through it to become a good man, he might have gotten away with it. I’m done commenting on things that are of such heartbreaking consequence.

    Well put, Rudy – I agree with the gist of your comment here. There’s a reason we have a statute of limitations for many charges (such as the ones being laid against Moore) in our criminal justice system.

I always like to play Devil’s Advocate, even with my own position, maybe especially. I saw a comment by Ragspierre that did cast doubt as to the kind of girl Moore sought to date. He always asked the mothers for permission. So I took the opposite position. The yearbook is the physical evidence to corroborate Moore did know the alleged victim. Concerning the misspelling, maybe Moore misspelled the name of the restaurant. The date was in different writing. Maybe the alleged victim wrote the date in either right after he signed it as a keepsake or after to document the date. I have no problem believing a victim can remember a specific date of a traumatic event. Maybe she enjoyed attention from Moore and brought in her yearbook for him to sign. He put D.A. rather than D.D.A. because she would not have understood the nuances. Manipulation. Maybe she felt guilty because she liked the attention and accepted a ride home, but when he got aggressive, she got scared. The stories came out because Moore had a reputation for courting young girls. The word was put out and women came forward. They now had a venue at a time when their stories would be believed. If the women came from a fatherless or broken home, they had a higher likelihood of accumulating baggage. Now they would be believed. I am merely playing Devil’s Advocate. The timing totally stinks, and if t he women were victimcs, they were manipulated by people who don’t give two sh*its about them.

Nonetheless, I heartily agree with inspectorudy’s comment in full.

    Barry in reply to willow. | November 14, 2017 at 3:58 pm

    “The date was in different writing”

    How ’bout “Roy” and “Moore” being different ink?

    The commies win because everyone is appalled by acts that can not be proven to have occurred. They can trot out people by the mile to make claims, knowing your weakness.

    Gloria Allred. And you believe that.

      Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | November 14, 2017 at 4:10 pm

      You keep chanting that bullshit, trying to smear the lady with her association with (despicable) Allred.

      For decades, Mr. Establishment PAID Roy Cohn (mob attorney) to represent him.

      What are the levels of relative sophistication between the lady and Donald Ducks? The relative terms of their relationships? And what they were respectively doing for their clients?

      Too bad you weren’t around to defend Dollar Bill Clinton when he needed defending. You’d have been great at it.

        As hard as you try, you continue the stupid. Tell us again about yearbooks.

        This has nothing to do with Trump or anyone else. Just progs trying to steal an election.

        The woman is lying. Allred represents grieving liars for prog causes. Pays them for it.

        It’s clear as a bell to anyone but a hater.

          Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | November 14, 2017 at 9:02 pm

          You’re talking about Mrs. Moore, right?

          Right…???

          Barry in reply to Barry. | November 14, 2017 at 9:07 pm

          Is Mrs. Moore represented by Gloria Allred? No, didn’t think so. Only confirmed and paid liars are on Ms. Allred’s payroll.

          Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | November 14, 2017 at 9:26 pm

          Mrs. Moore has been caught lying. Several times.

          All you have is your broke-dick accusations regarding any lie told by any of these women.

          Well, and your delusional “thinking”…

This is all a disgusting Bitch McConnell dirty trick op. Bitch is mad that Judge Moore beat his lap dog and must stop Moore any way he can.

He locked the car door so she couldn’t get out? This was in the 70s so, unless they were in the backseat, this is not possible.

I have read that the inscription in the yearbook was forged; the title he had at the time was Deputy or Assistant District Attorney, not DA, (as signed); the restaurant was named Old Hickory House, not Olde. Supposedly the guy was in there every night just waiting to capture this yung waitress (server in today’s terms), but he can’t spell the name properly? ADAs usually put an emphasis on spelling.

Something is wrong here. Don’t pedophiles continue their deviant ways as they grow older? Isn’t recidivism a constant for pedos? After 8 elections, Gloria Alred finds someone to accuse Moore and they stage a NYC press conference?

https://hotair.com/archives/2017/11/14/rush-roy-moore-democrat-allegedly-chasing-teenaged-girls-know/

THAT may be the death knell for Ol’ Roy. Excuse me…Ye Olde Hickory House…!!!

Read the whole thing. It directly refutes a bunch of lies that have had considerable coinage here.

    dmi60ex in reply to Ragspierre. | November 14, 2017 at 7:00 pm

    Come on Rags Allahpundit , the man makes pop up books look like Shakespeare.

    Only tangentially related, but I really really have a problem with people being held “accountable” for their actions forty years ago. Geez. Who didn’t say or do dumb things four decades ago? I was so appalled by the treatment of Paula Dean when she was revealed to have said the “N” word forty years ago. Dude, no one, and I mean no one, living in the South back then didn’t say the “N” word. It was the same thing as “negro” or in our current parlance “black.”

    These standards are freaking insane. You said the “N” word thirty years before it was deemed a hate crime, so today, decades later, you must lose your career and be ostracized and hated. That’s just nuts. Heck, actual crimes have a statute of limitations. But nothing is exempt from our self-inflated, sanctimonious application of today’s “rules” to all of history.

    I’m not defending Moore, of course, but for God’s sake, no one has come forward who wasn’t a Democrat operative or more recently than forty freaking years. Who among us can withstand judgment by today’s standards against our actions of forty or fifty years ago? How eager are you to have today’s PC-police investigate your words and actions from forty or fifty years ago?? Judge not . . . .

    Which brings me to Southern culture back in the day. We got married young, and often to older men. That was how it was. Was it right? Well, no, obviously not, but back then, that’s how it was. Young girls were considered lucky when they could leave school to get married; this was when women attended college to meet a good husband. Times have seriously changed, and for the better in this case. But yeah, at one time, it was perfectly “normal” for an adult man to woo a teenager.

    Funny how acceptable this is when it’s Muslims and arranged marriages to child brides in this decade, but totally unacceptable as a long-abandoned practice in the South.

    This is the same principle that is driving actual great books and literature from college reading lists. Reading the world’s literature through an SJW lens doesn’t leave much “approved” reading. That Mark Twain, what a RAAACIST! That Shakespeare, so intolerant and misogynist! Dead, white male literature, all of it, is so steeped in hate and white privilege, we just need to ban it.

    It’s all the same thing, and if we attack, judge, and condemn someone based on their actions in a different historical period, we invite and validate the leftist interpretation of all white people throughout history as, essentially, evil persons bent on evil deeds perpetrated with great evilness.

      Ragspierre in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | November 14, 2017 at 7:38 pm

      “I’m not defending Moore, of course, but for God’s sake, no one has come forward who wasn’t a Democrat operative or more recently than forty freaking years.”

      Clean that sentence up for me, because that “…operative or more…” part seems like an error.

      Who, precisely, was a “Democrat operative” here?

      Then please explain how the HELL that wasn’t a defense of Moore.

      Because…just damn…

        One of Moore’s accusers worked for the Clinton campaign (we wrote about this, but in case you missed it).

        If you perceive my comment as defending Moore, I won’t quibble because that was part and parcel of my point. If you wish to impose today’s leftist measures of what is acceptable on all human action prior to the development of these rules in this decade, go for it. I don’t care a whole lot because I’m becoming quite used to everyone walking in lock-step with regressive fascists who have no concept of a given historical moment. Every action and every word, everything should be based on their 2017 rule book. Sad to see you hop on board, but sadly, not surprised. I’ve seen this coming for some time, but I am sad to see it.

        Principles to the wind, Rags, I guess. Now we just hate Trump and anything kinda Trumpian, even if that means stripping history of all meaning and context. No socio-cultural mores, traditions, values, or rules are free from the imposition of your own special wisdom and high-mindedness. Right, got it. All of history is subject to your imposition of your beliefs (current beliefs, because we all know you felt differently 40 years ago) values on behavior, rituals, beliefs, mores, and principles. I hope you are never held to your own standards.

        You make me sad.

          Ragspierre in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | November 14, 2017 at 8:18 pm

          “If you wish to impose today’s leftist measures of what is acceptable on all human action prior to the development of these rules in this decade, go for it.”

          Yeah, Fussy, that’s just despicable of you.

          Is rape a new, now, and happening “leftist” idea?

          You make me puke.

          Rags, I’ve written on LI about Roman Polanski and what I think about this actual conduct in raping and sodomizing a teenager back in the day. Rape is not a leftist idea, and it’s not okay. However, no one has accused Moore of rape, except apparently you.

          As you are the one inventing allegations of rape against Moore, you are the one who should be puking.

          Ragspierre in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | November 14, 2017 at 8:25 pm

          “One of Moore’s accusers worked for the Clinton campaign…”

          Actually, she worked for several Deemocrat campaign, which DOES NOT make her a “Democrate activist” by any means.

          https://www.redstate.com/sarah-rumpf/2017/11/11/tone-deaf-attempt-discrediting-one-roy-moores-accusers/

          Refute that. Or attack it with more of your disgusting straw-men and innuendo. I’m appalled.

      Ragspierre in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | November 14, 2017 at 8:43 pm

      “I’m not defending Moore, of course, but for God’s sake, no one has come forward who wasn’t a Democrat operative…”

      As you’ve NOW admitted, that was a false statement. But, hell, you’ve published a whole butt-load of them tonight, so who am I to quibble about the VOLUME of your crap?

        They’re all democrat operators. It’s a democrat smear campaign.

        That may, probably, includes democrats identified with an R at the end of their name.

          Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | November 14, 2017 at 9:06 pm

          Did they have a sale on tin foil at Costco this week, Butt-hurt…???

          You’re full-tilt nutter. “It’s ALLLLLLLLLLL a conspiracy, I tells ya…!!! The PODS, they’re coming for all of you…!!!”

          Barry in reply to Barry. | November 14, 2017 at 9:09 pm

          Ignorant prog. Raggsy is always on the other side.

          Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | November 14, 2017 at 9:12 pm

          ANOTHER of your obvious LIES. It…and your delusions…are all you have. As you’ve demonstrated here.

          Barry in reply to Barry. | November 15, 2017 at 10:13 am

          “As you’ve demonstrated here.”

          You demonstrate over and over, every day, you are on the other side.
          It’s become clear to anyone that reads this blog.

          As you are now, accepting as fact the accusations of two women with no evidence. From 40 years ago.
          Unprovable, the other side knows it, and you do everything you can to push it.

          Yep, you are on the other side.

          Still beating your wife?

Kemberlee: I heard today that if the Alabama Republican Party withdraws its endorsement, that would automatically nullify the election results if Moore wins. Can’t recall on which radio news service, maybe Fox. Now more than ever, I wonder who set this up.

JBIsmay: another point of view on this latest accuser:

“Body Language: Roy Moore Accuser”
Mandy Bombard – Nov 13, 2017
https://youtu.be/kRRGbLVIW84

    JBIsmay in reply to Sonnys Mom. | November 14, 2017 at 9:08 pm

    Beverly Nelson may be heavier, but she is still very pretty. However, the video you referenced is well done and shows the artifice involved in the Gloria Allred production. The actress, Ms. Nelson, is actually reading a script (probably written by the Gloworm).

      Ragspierre in reply to JBIsmay. | November 14, 2017 at 9:21 pm

      ANOTHER nutter heard from…!!! They’re crawling out of the woodwork!

      She’s reading from her own notes, just like you would in the circumstances.

      If she were an “actress”, she’ be polished and poised. Just like you WOULD NOT.

This does not prove that Ms. Young worked there, that Moore was a regular, or that he assaulted her — but it does prove that a foolish, baseless claim repeated by Moore’s wife to undermine Young was complete garbage. If journalists are able to establish that Moore dined at the Olde Hickory House frequently, his blanket denial will be dead. It’s worth noting that Mrs. Moore has also (a) shared the baseless allegation that previous accusers had been paid, (b) promulgated the nonsense that Leigh Corfman’s (the first accuser) mother said her daughter was lying, based on the location of a telephone in their family home, and (c) appears to have recycled a pre-scandal list of pastors who once supported her husband’s candidacy — at least three of whom now say she did not get their permission to include them as current backers and have asked to be removed from the roster. Separate attempts to “prove” Moore’s innocence include doctoring images of the yearbook inscription he appears to have made out to Young in 1977 (compare the altered image with the actual image):

This apparent hoax originates from a Twitter feed that also falsely asserted that the Olde Hickory House was never spelled with an ‘e,’ which is disproven by both the city directory and contemporaneous advertisement shown above. Others are resting their theories on the numeral ‘7’ looking slightly different in separate elements of the yearbook message (perhaps the least ridiculous issue being raised), which shifts from cursive in the note to printed letters after the signature. A separate theory brewing involves speculating that Young couldn’t have received her yearbook in December, as she says (which I’ve addressed, with other social media users and reporters stating that the timeline was entirely plausible, especially because she transferred high schools). As for Mrs. Moore’s stream of rash falsehoods, her defenders will say that it’s understandable, if not romantic, that a woman would do anything she could to help her embattled spouse. (Surely they feel the same way about Hillary Clinton). But that defensive impulse, no matter how relatable, should not give anyone license to repeatedly create or spread fake information. I’d also bet that if the roles were reversed and the accusers’ families were exposed as sharing fraudulent claims in defense of their loved ones, Mrs. Moore’s apologists would wield those disproven claims as evidence against the women’s stories.

To recap: Debunking Kayla Moore’s conspiratorial social media posts does not affirmatively prove that Roy Moore is guilty of what his accusers say he did — even if even more accounts about his pattern of behavior with teenage girls continue to crop up. It does, however, call into question the credibility of Moore’s most ardent defenders, whose desperate and sloppy theorizing undercuts their trustworthiness as sources every time a bogus claim is raised and cut down. And again, what would be truly devastating to Moore’s pushback is compelling evidence — in the form of records or witnesses — that can blow up his statement that he never met Corfman or Young, or that he didn’t dine at the Olde Hickory House in the late 1970s. I’m open to changing my mind based on proof (that’s why I followed the evidence about the restaurant today), but as of right now, my tentative conclusion remains the same: The women are credible. He, and the fever swamp toiling on his behalf, are not. Drain the swamp.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2017/11/14/desperate-roy-moores-wife-keeps-spreading-fake-news-defenses-of-her-husband-which-doesnt-look-good-for-him-n2409408

Did I say that today would be interesting…???

Yes. I DID say that.

    You’re good at linking big heaping piles of doodoo. Which is all that is.

    Not one thing debunking anything that has been said other than reports “Olde” was spelled incorrectly. One I never mentioned by the way as it was a silly one.

    The rest is just horseshit. You’re good at shoveling that stuff and just eat it up.

      Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | November 14, 2017 at 9:09 pm

      It’s worth noting that Mrs. Moore has also (a) shared the baseless allegation that previous accusers had been paid, (b) promulgated the nonsense that Leigh Corfman’s (the first accuser) mother said her daughter was lying, based on the location of a telephone in their family home, and (c) appears to have recycled a pre-scandal list of pastors who once supported her husband’s candidacy — at least three of whom now say she did not get their permission to include them as current backers and have asked to be removed from the roster. Separate attempts to “prove” Moore’s innocence include doctoring images of the yearbook inscription he appears to have made out to Young in 1977 (compare the altered image with the actual image):

      Poor old nutter. You can’t even read honestly.

        More horespucky. So Mrs. Moore made a mistake about the restaurant. That prove guilt? No.

        As for the “doctored” picture of the yearbook, I guess CNN is now on Moore’s side, since that image was first displayed by them. All the others were black and white photo’s.

        https://twitter.com/CNN/status/930205088299257859

        You’re just too easy. Happens when you follow the progs and swallow, hook, line, sinker.

          Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | November 14, 2017 at 9:48 pm

          “Mrs. Moore made a mistake about the restaurant. That prove guilt? No.”

          Mrs. Moore published a patently false statement with the apparent intent of deceiving anyone who was stupid enough to read her campaign of bullshit.

          Does that prove Moore is guilty? Of course not. It just proves his wife is a liar with an agenda.

          We call this “suggestive evidence” in the law.

          Barry in reply to Barry. | November 15, 2017 at 10:06 am

          “It just proves his wife is a liar with an agenda.”

          You must be a really bad lawyer.

          To be a lie would require she knew it was false. Show us the proof she knew this, or it is you that is the liar.
          It was widely reported that “Olde” was an incorrect spelling, now shown to possibly be incorrect. Even that is an uncertainty at this point. A directory is not concrete proof.

        Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | November 14, 2017 at 9:43 pm

        Let’s try again.

        It’s worth noting that Mrs. Moore has also (a) shared the baseless allegation that previous accusers had been paid, (b) promulgated the nonsense that Leigh Corfman’s (the first accuser) mother said her daughter was lying, based on the location of a telephone in their family home, and (c) appears to have recycled a pre-scandal list of pastors who once supported her husband’s candidacy — at least three of whom now say she did not get their permission to include them as current backers and have asked to be removed from the roster. Separate attempts to “prove” Moore’s innocence include doctoring images of the yearbook inscription he appears to have made out to Young in 1977 (compare the altered image with the actual image):

        Does it matter where a bogus image originates? I suggest it does NOT. If you publish it as accurate, you are responsible for it.

        I also assert that the nutters on the blog-0-sphere are complicit liars, too, if they used that image.

Fox News host Sean Hannity issued an ultimatum to GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore over his response to the flood of sexual harassment allegations against him.

Hannity gave Moore 24 hours to either explain the inconsistencies in his account or drop out of the race. If not, Hannity — who supported Moore early on — will withdraw his support. Hannity’s ultimatum came after a fifth woman accused Moore of making advances on teenage girls while he was an attorney in his 30s.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/14/hannity-ultimatum-moore-has-24-hours-to-explain-everything-or-drop-out-video/

You can read the whole thing.

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