White House’s New Congresssional DACA Guidance Has Senate Dems Riled Up
Attempts to close loopholes long exploited by illegal aliens
According to an exclusive report published by the Washington Times Sunday evening, the White House submitted a lengthy new immigration plan to Congress.
“The plans, seen by The Washington Times, include President Trump’s calls for a border wall, more deportation agents, a crackdown on sanctuary cities and stricter limits to chain migration — all issues the White House says need to be part of any bill Congress passes to legalize illegal immigrant “Dreamers” currently protected by the Obama-era deportation amnesty known as DACA,” reports The Times.
Just weeks ago, it appeared as though Trump had bypassed Congressional Republicans and struck a deal with Senate Democrats on these very same immigration issues. Could’ve been smoke and mirrors then, possibly grandstanding now, but at least as far as Twitter is concerned, Sen. Schumer’s communications director ain’t happy:
The @POTUS is going back on his agreement with Schumer and Pelosi. Period. Full stop.
— Matt House (@mattwhouse) October 9, 2017
And it’s easy to see why:
But the plans break serious new ground on the legal front, giving federal agents more leeway to deny illegal immigrants at the border, to arrest and hold them when they’re spotted in the interior, and to deport them more speedily. The goal, the White House said, is to ensure major changes to border security, interior enforcement and the legal immigration system.
“Anything that is done addressing the status of DACA recipients needs to include these three reforms and solve these three problems,” a senior White House official told The Times. “If you don’t solve these problems then you’re not going to have a secure border, you’re not going to have a lawful immigration system and you’re not going to be able to protect American workers.”
They’re not wrong. When DACA was rescinded, the administration made clear their intentions were to push the matter entirely to Congress to find a legal remedy for the extra-legal program created by President Obama.
The rest of the guidance, which the White House indicates was compiled with input from the State, Justice, and Labor departments, walks along the hard line:
The White House said the list was built from the ground up, with input from the Justice, State and Labor Departments and the three main immigration agencies at Homeland Security, each of whom was asked what tools they needed to finally get a handle on illegal immigration.
Ideas poured in, ranging cracking down on sanctuary cities that shield illegal immigrants — a long-running battle — to new proposals, such as doling out assistance to other in the Western Hemisphere, enlisting them as partners in the effort to stop illegal immigrants heading north.
The running theme of the list, though, is closing loopholes that illegal immigrants have exploited:
• Lax asylum standards, which illegal immigrants have learned to game through saying “magic words” that earn them instant protections, would be stiffened.
• The Unaccompanied Alien Children — or UAC — who streamed to the U.S. under President Obama would have to prove they really are without parents and are fleeing abuse, in order to access generous humanitarian protections.
• Visitors who come legally but overstay their visas — perhaps now an even larger group of illegal immigrants than those who jump the border — would, for the first time, face a misdemeanor penalty.
• A 2001 Supreme Court decision that has forced the release of tens of thousands of illegal immigrants, including murderers, would be curtailed.
• The ability of federal, state and local authorities to detain illegal immigrants would be fully enshrined in law, helping settle a long-running question that’s fueled some sanctuary cities.
Also on the list are proposals that have been included in past immigration bills that garnered bipartisan support such as canceling the annual visa lottery that doles out 50,000 green cards at random, and requiring all businesses to use E-Verify, the government’s currently voluntary system for checking to make sure new hires are legally eligible to work.
This should be a fun week.
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This is where a fully independent and completely and utterly non-biased media comes in to its own. Every single Democrat, and Democrat lite (republican) who opposes this needs to have their faces plastered across the media NOT as the saviours of the left (as will happen under the current media system) BUT as congressmen and senators who are willing to sell out their country so illegal immigrants to breed and live and breed and create their own separate above the law communities in America.
“saviours”…cheques….crisps…
Where in the UK are you?
Of COURSE the Democrats are riled up over this! That was a given – and was in play BEFORE THE ELECTION.
Hence all the “Trump is a RAAAAACIST!” claims.
As a vocal non-Trump fan, I am openly thankful he has at least made good on his promise to roll back that ridiculous “memo” and get the DoD and DHS back on the path to stopping ILLEGAL immigration, as well as attempting to halt the very harmful policy of “chain-migration” that was instituted by the Democrats back in the 1960’s.
Also, kudos to the SCOTUS who FINALLY allowed Trump’s halt on immigration from dangerous countries who have declared jihad against us. They deserve to be credited with helping our nation to get on the right track as well.
Reading the guidelines is both triggering and comforting. Triggering because of all the huge loopholes that harm our nation that the ruling elite have carved out or allowed to exist. Comforting because Trump is clearly on the right path. However, even if he successfully fixed everything wrong with our immigration system, I still would not accept annesty in any form for so-called dreamers.
Dems riled up? Let’s vote. Everyone who cares, raise your hand. Nope…I don’t see any hands. The same goes double for the treasonous RINO scum! ES&D
Text of the White House release here:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/10/08/president-trump-sends-letter-to-congress-outlining-immigration-principles-and-policies/#more-139643
Being an illegal alien should be a federal felony.
With full due process? You haven’t thought that through.
why do illegals have ANY rights – does someone breaking into your home and takes up residence, eats your food etc have rights within your domicile ?
It’s called “the law”, nutter.
The right to die….quietly.
What do you mean by “being an illegal alien”? Illegal entry into the US can be treated under the civil system or under the criminal system as a misdemeanor or a felony. Typically, the first through tenth offenses are treated as civil deportations.
Illegal aliens commit a lot of felonies to subsist here, such as false SS cards and other documents, tax evasion, tax fraud, money laundering, wire fraud, bank fraud, mail fraud, etc.
The US could use the criminal code to effectively cause them to self deport by simply using existing legal mechanisms such as mandatory registration as an illegal alien and make it a failure to do so by a date certain. Thus, if the illegals self deport before the deadline they do not have to worry about the felony and the lifetime prohibition of entry into the country.
It should say “make it a felony to do so”.
Under civil law, there is no such thing as a “misdemeanor”.
You really are not a lawyer, are you, DirtyOl’Racist…???
Someone really needs to attend law school:
“A civil penalty or civil fine is a financial penalty imposed by a government agency as restitution for wrongdoing. The wrongdoing is typically defined by a codification of legislation, regulations, and decrees”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_penalty
The feculent she-ogre that pretends to be a lawyer and posts as “Ragsquirrel” is making a fool of herself again.
You really should work on your reading comprehension, dullard. I said nothing of the sort. But this is not the first time that you invent some falsehood and pretend to correct your better.
VOTE this UP if you enjoy living rent free in Ragsquirrel’s head.
One would have to be a willfully ignorant poseur of the first order and deliberately stupid to contend that I said something a misdemeanor under the civil system.
Feculent she-ogre, please go away and pretend to be smart somewhere else.
“What do you mean by “being an illegal alien”? Illegal entry into the US can be treated under the civil system or under the criminal system as a misdemeanor or a felony. Typically, the first through tenth offenses are treated as civil deportations.”
“Anything that is done addressing the status of DACA recipients needs to include these three reforms and solve these three problems.” Well, obviously. That would be the whole damn point of the President dealing directly with Congressional Dems. Congressional Republicans won’t do it, so it’s up to Trump to bypass them. All bloody obvious. Trump’s book was The Art of the Deal, not The Art of Abject Surrender. Wait until one side or the other releases the actual terms of the peace treaty before deciding who won the war.
But these specifics are hardly impressive. I wouldn’t call any of it “hard line”.
Assistance to other countries “enlisting them as partners in the effort to stop illegal immigrants” is balderdash. Invaders in the US are a yuuge revenue stream for their home countries—next to outright piracy, that’s about as “free” as free money can get. They’re not going to do anything at their end to discourage it, let alone stop it. Borrowing more money to throw at them will be expensive and futile.
“Lax asylum standards” sounds like a bureaucratic issue. That would make it a problem for the Executive dept to fix—nothing to do with Congress. So tossing it to Congress looks like an excuse for inaction.
“Unaccompanied Alien Children”—scotching this entirely would be “hard line”. Anything less will turn out to be business as usual … i.e., failure.
Overstayed visas a “misdemeanor”. Big deal. Let’s get serious.
2001 Supreme Court decision—pretty much by definition, not something the Executive or Congress can do anything about.
While it’s gratifying to see that the whole foreign invasion issue isn’t fading away, and the Democrats and their fellow-travelers in the Press will howl like they’re being skinned alive, that doesn’t really accomplish much. There’s a looong way to go before anything useful happens.
Actually getting countries to sort their shit out SHOULD be a priority. If that was Barry “The Black Baby Jesus” Obama’s and Hillary “I haven’t met a person I didn’t want dead” Clintons primary objective the Middle East wouldn’t be the shithole it is now. Instead these two feckless, so called leaders, were more concerned with the optics of their legacy than actually doing something for the better of everyone!
This is all politics to get the Republican Congress to move on the wall and to block future attempts to reduce funding for enforcement efforts. Most everything in the “guidelines” can be done now. The wall still needs to be funded. Some loopholes, such as E-Verify need to be closed. There is no reason to make overstaying a visa a criminal offense. Though an overstay should be permanently barred from reentry. As to asylum seekers, run that like any other court case. Make the asylum seeker prove that he is entitled to asylum. The same with unaccompanied minors. Ship them back to their country of origin to be reunited with their parents or other family members. We do that with domestic unaccompanied minors constantly.
Trump wants his wall, as does most of his base. And, Congress is blocking that. Trump could care less about the Dreamers. And, as long as chain immigration is eliminated, the wall is funded and other loopholes in the immigration laws, many of which affect the US economy, are closed, he would sign a bill legalizing Dreamer status. This is POLITICS, the art of the deal. Trump’s base has a choice here. Deport the Dreamers, or get the wall built and immigration strengthened. They have to make up their minds.
–> There is no reason to make overstaying a visa a criminal offense. <–
if the people who overstayed did not realize that the visa had expired and left on their own, not prob, otherwise, how is this any different than an invader ?
invasion should be a fed offense –
if someone breaks into your home, business, car etc that's a crime and should be punished accordingly.
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in regards to DACA
1 – if the kid arrived as a baby,(0-10)years old, then permanent residence status/ no possibility of citizenship possible / should be granted along with NO chain immigration possible.
2 – if older and came with parents – ALL of them need to be deported /with never being able to visit or immigrate/
3 – if 16 or older -KICK EM OUT, unless real documented fear of repatriation.
we do NOT need more people coming here who do not speak English and cannot contribute – no going on welfare, there are plenty of charities that can support them if they choose to.
enough this is not the 1940s.
no more Muslims, let em practice their vile practices elseware
see FGM, polygamy etc.
Let me address making overstaying a visa a criminal offense. To commit the violation, in the case of a criminal offense, is a crime. And, a person has to be sentenced befitting that crime. Even though a person, convicted of a criminal offense, may receive a very small sentence or even have it suspended, he will have to defend himself as though he was going to receive the harshest sentence possible. This results in a huge backlog of criminal trials. This is the reason that most traffic laws are now civil infractions, rather than criminal violations.
Now, your example of someone breaking into your house is not analogous. Illegally entering the country would be analogous to breaking into your house. And, that should be handled as a criminal violation, if it was done intentionally. Overstaying a vise is more analogous to a person staying inside a business or residence, which they had been invited or allowed to enter, after the business had closed or their invitation had expired. In most states, this is trespass, usually a misdemeanor and much less serious than burglary [breaking and entering], unless the person commits or attempts to commit any other crime while on the premises in which it becomes a burglary. That is why I said that overstaying a visa should be instantly deportable and, unless the violator can come up with a very good reason to do otherwise, the violator should be permanently barred from reentering the US.
Congress will not pass anything making DACA statutory law. (Hopefully).
Sessions should take a page out of the leftists playbook and consent to Texas amending its pleadings in the DAPA case to include a challenge to DACA. And then agree to a settlement killing DACA and foreclosing the litigation in the other circuits.
The leftists have done it a lot in environmental and natural resource cases in which lefty groups have sued the govt. The leftists also did it prominently in the suit that challenged “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” that was before a queer district court judge within the Ninth Circuit.
“Trump had bypassed Congressional Republicans and struck a deal with Senate Democrats on these very same immigration issues. Could’ve been smoke and mirrors then, possibly grandstanding now, but at least as far as Twitter is concerned, Sen. Schumer’s communications director ain’t happy”
Of course, it was smoke and mirrors. As part of the art of the deal you tell your opponent that they will receive everything to get them excited and at the table and then you start to claw things back and if you don’t get your claw backs that are necessary you walk away from deal.
Being someone who actually negotiates on a pretty constant basis, if someone behaves like that I just walk. That’s considered “bad faith”.
And stupid.
So, down-thumbers, YOU would put up with that kind of asshole in a negotiation?
Pitiful…
Well, in this case, I think this was designed to give the Republicans a reason to sit down at the table. To get the wall and immigration funding, Trump needs a significant portion of the GOP Congressmen. And, the GOP Congress critters have already proven that they have no intention of negotiating fairly with Trump. But, as a significant portion of the constituents of the Republican Congressmen really want a wall and immigration law enforcement, if the Dems look like they may be agreeable to help Trump and the GOP is not, then it looks bleak for the GOP in 2018.
Now, the Dems had no intention of helping Trump build a wall or enforce immigration laws. This is anathema to their base. So, there was no real “deal” offered them. Now, the GOP is looking at Dreamers being deported in less than six months AND the midterms shortly after. If they do not help fund the wall and fund immigration law enforcement AND Dreamers start being deported, because Congress has taken NO action on any of this, they stand to lose their phony baloney jobs in 2018. Trump has given them an out. Fund the wall, close the loopholes in the immigration laws and fund enforcement efforts and the Dreamers can stay, with serious restrictions. Now we wait and see what the Republicans do.
“Now we wait and see what the Republicans do.”
Why do I find that funny?
The republicans will stand with the
commiesdemocrats like they always do.No, this is Trump knowing exactly what he’s doing.
1. He needed to get a debt ceiling rise to allow quick hurricane relief, otherwise the UniParty would be after him as “heartless in the face of his Katrina!!!”
2. Vichy Mitchy and RINO crew wanted to allow the debt ceiling to rise without further debate until 2019, to kick it past the election, and were holding Trump hostage until he agreed.
3. Trump knew that Schmucky and crew only wanted an extension until December, and he could paint Vichy as the heartless one if there was no vote.
4. So Trump holds his meeting. Schmucky and Peelousy then came out and claimed what had been said about DACA, immigration, etc. We haven’t seen any confirmation of what was ACTUALLY said.
5. Debt limit increase passes. Hurricane relief is available and being handled successfully.
6. Now Trump announces his actual immigration plan all along. Much butthurt is caused, on both sides of the aisle.
Now Trump has thrown the question of spending and immigration into the Republican primaries, and the RINOs have to defend their inaction.
To adapt one Benjamin Grimm: “IT’S RINO HUNTING TIME!!!”
SDN gets it.