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Universities in Mexico Prepare for Influx of DACA Students

Universities in Mexico Prepare for Influx of DACA Students

“seeking to fast-track Dreamers’ applications”

https://youtu.be/D47FgWiWfGA

Universities in Mexico are making plans to accommodate more students in the event of a full DACA repeal. Since so many Dreamers are college students, they expect a major uptick in enrollment.

Karin Fischer reports at The Chronicle of Higher Education:

Mexican Universities Prepare for a Potential ‘Tsunami’ of DACA Students

If President Trump and Congress cannot come to an agreement to prevent the deportation of hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants who came to the United States as children, Mexican universities say they are ready to welcome them as students.

The fate of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, or DACA, the Obama-era initiative that allows such people to stay in the United States and work or study, is uncertain. The Trump administration this month announced it would end DACA, but Democratic Congressional leaders said on Wednesday they had struck a deal with the president to extend it.

No matter, Mexican universities say they are prepared to accept an influx of so-called Dreamers, if they are forced to leave the United States.

Indeed, Mexican higher education and the Mexican government have been preparing for months for such a possibility, even as President Trump equivocated about DACA’s fate. Back in March, the Mexican Congress approved changes to federal education law to streamline what had been a complicated and bureaucratic admissions process.

Under the amended law, the process for validating transcripts from foreign institutions has been simplified and a uniform national standard has been set for recognizing academic credits from abroad…

Universities are seeking to fast-track Dreamers’ applications. They will be able to apply for admission to Mexican institutions while still in the United States, said Rodrigo Guerra Botello, secretary general of the Mexican Federation of Private Institutions of Higher Education.

Colleges and universities in the United States are doing what they can to allay the fears of students who could be affected. Jennifer Hansler reported at CNN:

Colleges try to reassure undocumented students in wake of DACA decision

For many college students, Tuesday marked the start of a new semester of classes. For those students protected under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, it also ushered in an uncertain future about their status in the United States.

In the wake of the Trump administration’s decision to rescind DACA, leaders from some of the nation’s top higher education institutions have come forward to slam the decision — and to assure their undocumented students that they will be protected on campus…

Penn declared itself a “sanctuary campus” in November 2016, announcing at the time that it would not allow Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Customs and Border Protection or US Citizenship and Immigration Services agents onto campus unless required by warrant. The university reiterated in their statement Tuesday that they would “do everything (they) can to support and assist the Dream Act students who are valued members of our community. Other Ivy League universities joined Penn in condemning the decision, including Columbia, Harvard and Cornell.

Harvard said it does not consider immigration status as part of its admissions and financial aid process. While it is not a “sanctuary campus,” the university noted that it “does not voluntarily share information on the immigration status of undocumented community members, and federal officials attempting to enforce immigration laws on campus are required to obtain a judicial warrant.”

Columbia student and DACA recipient Santiago Tobar Potes recently wrote this for FOX News:

DACA student: Deporting me and 800,000 Dreamers is a man-made disaster that will be terrible for US

Hurricane Harvey forced thousands of people from their homes in Texas and Louisiana – and now President Trump is threatening to force me and 800,000 other undocumented immigrants brought to America as children out of our homes throughout the United States.

My heart goes out to those made homeless by Harvey. That tragedy, unfortunately, was unavoidable. But President’s Trump’s decision announced Tuesday to end a program called Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) in six months is a man-made disaster…

This is torture for all 800,000 of us – a giant question mark hanging over our heads.

Almost all of us have jobs or are in school. We have friends, relatives, partners and many ties to our communities. And we love America. We desperately want to stay.

But it’s not just we Dreamers who would be hurt by the end of DACA. America would suffer.

The Center for American Progress estimates that ending DACA would remove about 685,000 workers from the U.S. economy over the next 10 years – creating hardships for employers who would have to replace them.

The consensus among pundits is that Congress and the Trump administration will probably reach an agreement on DACA but that hasn’t stopped the hysteria around the issue.

At least Mexican universities seem pretty excited about it.

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“Universities in Mexico prepare for influx of DACA students.”

Hahahahaha. You originally wrote this for ‘The Onion,’ didn’t you?

But this ledes to a more probing question: “Why do ‘Dreamers’ hate Mexico?”

thalesofmiletus | September 21, 2017 at 10:16 am

Let them Make Mexico Great Again!

4th armored div | September 21, 2017 at 11:22 am

if the dtudents can pay tuition, they can go to whatever school they want to, either as a ‘protected class’ or temp visa.

if trump decides to expel these invaders (which i agree with), how will the gov;t decide where the illegals came from ?

    buckeyeminuteman in reply to 4th armored div. | September 21, 2017 at 12:15 pm

    If they found their way here from whatever banana republic they came from, they can certainly find their way home from the south side of our big, beautiful wall.

    OleDirtyBarrister in reply to 4th armored div. | September 21, 2017 at 2:05 pm

    How to tell?

    We round them up and put them on landingcraft and tell them that they are going to make a beach entry in their country of origin. Which beach would they like to visit in Mexico? Then let Mexico sort it out.

    In seriousness, Mexico is objecting to taking back all hispanic illegals despite the fact that they entered the US from there. It turns out that the Mexicans have an aversion to other hispanics invading and colonizing their country, and don’t want the US to send them through Mexico because the Messicans do not trust them to leave and return to central or south America.

      What a remarkably stupid comment from anyone who pretends to know ANYTHING about the law.

      Assuming, aruendo, that we had a POTUS with the intent to deport DREAMERS (we don’t; he LIED), they would be solely deported to their nation of origin. Not “Messico”. According to law.

      Whatta moron…!!!

        OleDirtyBarrister in reply to Ragspierre. | September 21, 2017 at 2:52 pm

        Ragspierre, there certainly is a moron in this conversation, and it is you. You are an extraordinarily ignorant poser of the first order. Millhouse states that he is not a lawyer and only plays one on the internet, but he is not as dumb as you are.

        Why don’t you try researching and learning before you open your mouth? There is a passel of article out there and many TV and radio interviews that substantiate the point I made about deportations of all entrants from Mexico back to Mexico irrespective of their country of origin. Mexico does not want it because it turns out that they do not like have illegal aliens in their country.

        This is one of many articles that demonstrates that you are a mouthbreathing troglodyte and blowhard. I hope that others that read this exchange will concur in noting the accuracy of my statement about the deportation controversy and your display of abject ignorance.

        https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/02/22/foriegn-minister-mexico-immigrations-proposals/98252710/

          Try a legal citation, moron.

          You can’t even read your broke-dick bullshit from USAToday…

          “Under the new [proposed and unilateral] rules, all federal immigration officers can now conduct an “expedited removal” anywhere in the U.S.

          *****against people who arrived in the U.S. in the previous two years.*****

          One critical provision, which requires Mexico’s cooperation, allows federal agents to send people back to Mexico, even if they’re not from that country. Many recent arrivals to the U.S. came from Central America, traveling through Mexico.

          The latest dispute threatens to further damage already strained U.S.-Mexico relations, which deteriorated as President Trump promised to build a wall along the border wall at Mexico’s expense and to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) that he said has unfairly benefited Mexico.”

          Which has jack-spit to do with DREAMERS. Whaadda lying SOS.

          I spit on your down-thumbing, you T-rump sucking myrmidons.

          The old dirty barrister is an idiot, and a liar by his own citation.

          And you morons are supporting THAT.

          Excellent…

          Go with that.

          OleDirtyBarrister in reply to OleDirtyBarrister. | September 22, 2017 at 5:49 pm

          IF YOU ENJOY LIVING RENT FREE IN RAGSPIERRE’S HEAD, VOTE THIS POST UP.

          Rags, thanks for letting us know that we are under your skin and living rent free.

          There certainly is an idiot and a liar in this thread, and it is you. You stepped in crap opening your mouth in the first instance, and then you just keep digging yourself in deeper.

      OleDirtyBarrister in reply to OleDirtyBarrister. | September 22, 2017 at 5:51 pm

      If you think Ragspierre should be banned from the site for his vitriolic comments and ad hominem attacks, VOTE this post up.

      Revel in your ability to live rent free is the head of Ragspierre!

For these 800,000 DACA students – the USA spent an average of $100,000 on their k-12 schooling. That is $80 Billion dollars that US Taxpayers have already paid to educate them.

Should we allow some good kids to stay and get a return on that investment?

Or, is it just too much trouble because the Democrats will insist they all stay (Including the MS-13 killers) along with their siblings, parents and grandparents?

    thalesofmiletus in reply to MattMusson. | September 21, 2017 at 11:48 am

    Deduct it from their foreign aid, like the cost of the wall.

    Ragspierre in reply to MattMusson. | September 21, 2017 at 1:33 pm

    “…the USA spent an average of $100,000 on their k-12 schooling. That is $80 Billion dollars that US Taxpayers have already paid to educate them.”

    I hope this is the last time I have to beat down this canard.

    If they were here in Texas, or any state LIKE Texas, their parents paid the same sales tax as anyone does. Likewise, they paid the property taxes, either directly as real property owners or as renters.

    It’s just stupid to keep chanting this falsehood.

    They should be deported because they’re here illegally. Full stop. Mike drop. ‘Nuff said.

    OleDirtyBarrister in reply to MattMusson. | September 21, 2017 at 2:15 pm

    Thirty years ago we had an illegal invasion and colonization problem that was 3 million people in scope. Today, it is estimated to be at least 12 million. But if one drives around Texas and the SW in the spring and summer months, it is hard to believe it is only 12MM. Accordingly, by being soft on the invasion and not making a bold stand, we caused an injury that grew in scope by a factor of 4 in only 30 years. By granting any form of amnesty, how big will the problem be for successive generations? Will it be 40-50MM in 30 years?

    Cut the losses and stem bleeding now.

    This country is struggling with its present and future identity and the type of nation it will be. We have ostensibly aspire to be a nation of laws, not of men. But it is the people and the willingness to observe and obey laws with the mutual expectation that others in society will as well that matters, not the laws on the books. Accordingly, allowing illegal aliens, including the so-called dreamers, to remain in this country is a bad move if we want to be a nation of laws. The last thing that country needs is to admit people into the electoral box and jury box that know that everything that they have, that their parents have, and that their kids have is all based on a willingness by their forebears to break law after law for years (including numerous felonies for fake ID, tax evasion, tax fraud, immigration crimes, misprision of felonies, conspiracies to violate laws, etc.) on end and thumb their nose at the expectation of other members of society for observance and compliance with the law.

    Dems know what they are going to get if the dreamers and concentric circles around them are granted citizenship. And Dems love it because they know it will move them closer to their goal of permanent political hegemony.

    Do not be stupid enough to allow any sensibilities or sympathies to be used against you. Cut the losses and stem the bleeding now.

      “Accordingly, allowing illegal aliens, including the so-called dreamers, to remain in this country is a bad move if we want to be a nation of laws.”

      Wuh, duh. You need to write to Donald Ducks. Right now, he’s the leading proponent of DREAMER amnesty, the guy to is continuing the Obamic violations of the law, and the one who has ordained it will continue for at least six months.

      Any to you down-thumbers have the balls to make an argument disputing those FACTS.

      4th armored div in reply to OleDirtyBarrister. | September 21, 2017 at 5:04 pm

      30 years ago ?
      their kids would now be 30+ years old.
      the kids likely did not/do not know that they are illegal.
      so how does DACA apply to 30+ year old ?

      problem is our absurd, ‘if you are born here, you are automatically a citizen.
      which means a pregnant non citizen has a kid here, this starts the process of immigration.

      To be clear, it means that current jurisprudence indicates the U.S.-born children of undocumented immigrants are given citizenship by the 14th Amendment.

      this is not any way for a country to keep its’ sovereignty.

      in regards to invasion 30 years ago- it is STILL ongoing with the collusion of the party of KKK grand wizard robert byrd and
      al gore sr.
      we also have the invasion of muslims –
      you know Obama: Muslim Call to Prayer One of the Prettiest Sounds on Earth –
      the ones who want to destroy israel and usa.

Each one of them, whether they were ‘brought here’ or not, is a lawbreaker. Dozens, perhaps hundreds of laws since they got here as innocent babes. It’s true the US has spent billions letting them all stay here; to the left it was like farming, the fruit was perpetual democrat votes.

If President Trump lets them stay, and they want to keep expressing their love for the US and become useful taxpayers, perhaps they can stay as a permanent ‘dreamer’ but can never become a citizen, and will never have the right to vote, ever. Even if it takes fingerprinting.

The rest of the country gets a return on investment, and dreamers won’t be polluting the voter pool for the next 60 years. Oh, and end birthright citizenship. If they don’t like the deal; well, they have a college education, they can always go back to their parents home country and help their mother society.

buckeyeminuteman | September 21, 2017 at 12:13 pm

President Trump is even “Making Mexico Great Again!”

“Universities in Mexico are making plans to accommodate more students in the event of a full DACA repeal.”

Finally. Finally. Finally.

Taking responsible action in the face of likely events. A hopeful sign of some maturity.

Now, Mexico, and other countries abusing the generous nature of Americans, go full-bore and become fully functioning countries watching out for the best interests of your citizens without hurting our citizens.

And voila, relations between our two countries will improve.

I dunno what all this nonsense is about. Donald Ducks has very clearly stated he’s for DREAMER amnesty.

If you don’t know that, you’re delusional.

If you believe for even a moment that DREAMERS will not be made citizens, you likewise are delusional.

But WRT many here, we already knew that.

    So, DJT would like to see the status of the DACA registrants legalized? So what? There are a large number of people who do not wish to see the Dreamers deported. However, so far, Trump has executed his office in a responsible, legal manner. He, as President of the United States CAN NOT unilaterally grant legal status to DACA registrants, or anyone else, and he CAN NOT simply refuse to enforce federal laws, with regard to immigration, as his predecessor did.

    If Congress changed the immigration laws to provide legal status for the Dreamers, Trump would likely sign it. So would Ted Cruz, if he were President, and most other politicians. What keeps this legislation from being passed, in the first place, is the perceived will of the electorate. And, the electorate is not in favor of changing the immigration laws. Now, we have suspect “polls” which purport to should widespread support for legalizing the Dreamers. However, the Congress is a savvy bunch and I doubt that polls of this type have sold them that the electorate wants this change.

    We’ll just have to wait and see what that august body does, and when they do it.

      Ragspierre in reply to Mac45. | September 21, 2017 at 2:48 pm

      “…and he CAN NOT simply refuse to enforce federal laws, with regard to immigration, as his predecessor did.”

      But…you poor moronic liar…THAT is what he’s DOING.

      And against his pledge to act against DREAMERS on “day one”.

      Since that “day one” he’s continued Barracula’s lawlessness, and he’s doing it now and will do it for another six months at least.

      I often wonder just how stupid you are.

Does Mexico understand that US taxpayers will not be paying their tuition like in the US? And they are not all (not even a small percentage) pre-med, engineering, business or even education majors? If they have a special scholarship fund for them that will not go over well with the students in Mexico who would like to go to college and did not violate any immigration laws.

OleDirtyBarrister | September 21, 2017 at 2:31 pm

When Trump criticizes Mexico or Central America, the marxists within and without the media attack him as if those areas were Shangri La and the people within them were all superlatives bound for canonization as saints. But when deporting an illegal alien to one of those places is discussed, those same leftists act as if it is the imposition of the death penalty.

Think of how much better off Mexico and Central America are going to be with those educated, bilingual people working there.

We’re surrounded by Virtue Signalers. Phooey on that.

No matter what happens with DACA, the chances of any of them being deported are essentially nil. And nobody but hysterics has ever pretended otherwise. Rescinding Obama’s illegal decrees is not the same thing as announcing that anyone is about to be deported. Not even close. Obama’s extra-legal protections will no longer exist if the plan announced by Sessions proceeds. That’s all. But schools get to announce that they’ll “protect” illegals who aren’t actually threatened with deportation, Mexico announces that it will bring its school admissions procedures into the 21st century to accommodate a flood of applicants who aren’t applying, and everybody gets to whine about Trump. Everybody pretends they’re doing something terribly wonderful, and they’re really doing nothing at all.

Phooey.

Ideally, American laws would be upheld by American governments, and all illegals would be send back to wherever they should be. But not all illegals are equal. Personally, I’d put the DACA types somewhere near the end of the line of criminals waiting to be deported. After ten, or twenty, or thirty million (or whatever the real number is nowadays) are deported, then they might have something to start worrying about. But that won’t be for a long time. In the meantime they’ll have plenty of time to get their graduate degrees in endocrine surgery and magnetohydrodynamics.

    Ragspierre in reply to tom swift. | September 21, 2017 at 2:55 pm

    “Obama’s extra-legal protections will no longer exist if the plan announced by Sessions proceeds. That’s all.”

    But, stupid apoligist, T-rump immediately cut the legs out from under “it’s unconstitution” Sessions.

    Or did you miss that?

    He hasn’t just EXTENDED them to this point, he’s announced in the clearest terms that he’s extending them for AT LEAST six months, AND demanded that Congress LEGALIZE DREAMERS.

    Or did you miss that one, too…???

President Trump delivers first address to UNGA
Published on Sep 19, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTGMu8BrzS8

“We have learned that over the long term, uncontrolled migration is deeply unfair to both the sending and the receiving countries. For the sending countries, it reduces domestic pressure to pursue needed political and economic reform and drains them of the human capital necessary to motivate and implement those reforms. For the receiving countries, the substantial costs of uncontrolled migration are born overwhelmingly by low-income citizens whose concerns are often ignored by both media and government.”

Full transcript
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/09/19/remarks-president-trump-72nd-session-united-nations-general-assembly

CaliforniaJimbo | September 21, 2017 at 4:17 pm

Well while I have relocated from California to Connecticut (one blue state to another), the dreamer issue is a tough one. I cannot undo history (President Obama should never have done this by EO), we have to come up with something that is somewhat fair (knowing that anything we do will made somebody mad).
Instead of lumping the DACA members into one group, we need to deal with this on a case by case basis.
Minors : You can get a green card if you have no criminal offenses.
Adults : You should be evaluated on a point system similar to what Canada uses for its immigrants. Your education, occupation, marital status, and employer sponsorship should be used to evaluate you for citizenship. If you meet the cut, you are granted citizenship in 10 years (being a resident alien until the 10 years passes). This cuts out the instant voting block and such. You are not eligible for social services until the 10 year time is up.

Not perfect but a good place to start.

The above is a testiment of the power of delusion and rationalization.

It’s both astounding and disgusting.

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