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Phoenix Rally: Trump Attacks Media for Dishonesty, Media Melts Down

Phoenix Rally: Trump Attacks Media for Dishonesty, Media Melts Down

Don Lemon thinks Trump is trying to start a civil war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxwe16H2g9U

Last night, President Donald Trump held a rally in Phoenix, AZ, where he trashed the media for its dishonesty about his remarks about Charlottesville. He also railed against the GOP in Congress for not repealing Obamacare. From Fox News:

But Trump was most animated when defending himself against accusations he wasn’t forceful enough in condemning the white supremacists and racists who were protesting in Charlottesville earlier this month. He blamed the media for distorting his comments.

At one point, the president pulled a piece of paper out of his jacket and re-read his initial statements condemning the racists involved the protests.

“Did they report that I said that racism is evil?” Trump asked of the media. The crowd yelled, “No!”

“You know why?” Trump asked. “Because they are very dishonest people.”

“These are sick people,” Trump said of the media. “You know the thing I don’t understand? You would think … they’d want to make our country great again. And I honestly believe they don’t.”

Trump also “dinged” Arizona’s senators Jeff Flake and John McCain due to recent fights over Obamacare and immigration.

McCain received Trump’s wrath after he voted “against the Senates recent plan to repeal and replace ObamaCare.” Trump lamented on that issue by reminding the crowd the Senate was only “[O]ne vote away,” but he would “not mention any names.”

Trump said he didn’t want to speak about Flake, someone Trump called “weak on borders, weak on crime.”

Don Lemon Meltdown

We know that the mainstream media still hates the fact that failed Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton lost…to Trump of all people. Of course Trump’s comments led to a meltdown by the elitist media, including CNN’s Don Lemon. He said Trump is “unhinged” and “embarrassing.”

Then Lemon claimed that Trump is trying to start a civil war:

Matt Vespa at Townhall provided a perfect description of the insanity:

In all, it proved why Trump won in 2016. It’s these sorts of tantrums from the media that pushes moderates into the Trump camp and makes those already in it to dig in deeper. We went through a gauntlet of nonsense last night, with the discussions about his mental health from people who are explicitly anti-Trump. The talk about civil war was doubly insane. You want to talk crazy; please discuss ways in which you know for sure that the president wants to cause a civil war. The overreach and hyperbole just kills any legitimate criticism there might have been during last night’s remarks. That’ll get glossed over because apparently Don Lemon thinks Fort Sumter reloaded is upon us. It was a clown show. Period.

Protesters

What’s a Trump rally without protesters? But it’s amazing how just a few people can make everything go to hell in an instant. Some people started to throw objects at the police.

Then the officers used tear gas and pepper spray to disperse the crowds.

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Now the Slimes is reporting a fake news story stating Trump and McConnell are feuding. The never Trumpers are in hog heaven over this one. Even the Deep Staters are doing cartwheels, but I am not believing one slimy greasy word.

    YellowSnake in reply to Stan25. | August 23, 2017 at 12:34 pm

    Trump will feud with someone if they say they found some crabgrass at one of this golf courses. Tweet, tweet, tweet

    You can’t look at the man sideways without him getting defensive.

      Actually, you have a point here.

      The press is so used to interpreting the smallest motion of an eyebrow, the crease in one’s pants, the tingle up a leg, that they have grown totally oblivious to having somebody actually *say* things. What is worse, they continue to grab their shovel and dig whenever Trump tweets.

      It is one thing to pick a statement apart and hack away at one phrase or another in a one hour speech, but when somebody in the public sees the press attempting to twist 140 characters into a pretzel, they tend to believe what he said as opposed to what the press attempts to convey through interpretive dance and mime.

        YellowSnake in reply to georgfelis. | August 23, 2017 at 5:54 pm

        Huh? He is the President of the US. He must think that he can convey his thoughts, unambiguously, in 140 characters or less. Personally, I think it is usually not possible. But I do appreciate your willingness to twist yourself into a pretzel no matter how idiotic he is.

      healthguyfsu in reply to YellowSnake. | August 23, 2017 at 12:51 pm

      Tell me about it…his skin is so thin that he’s always (anonymously) trolling the opposition with weak hyperbole, what a jerk!

      Oh wait, case of mistaken identity.

Give ’em hell, Mr. President! (Why, even Ragspierre admits that
the “T-rump” is spot-on. (Why the asinine mangling of the name,
Rags? Did Robespierre inspire you to it, or is that your kindergarten days beconing in your old age?)

    Trump is awfully fond of tagging people with juvenile nicknames, so what’s the harm if someone does the same to him?

      Tom Servo in reply to Paul. | August 23, 2017 at 1:06 pm

      no harm, really, it just makes the person doing it look like an idiot, especially when they’re just an anonymous troll on the internet. I suppose they think “oh look he said something a 6 year old would say, doesn’t that make him look manly and powerful!!!!”

      alaskabob in reply to Paul. | August 23, 2017 at 1:06 pm

      “Stick and stones….” The Left demands equal this and that … and the last Admin went nuts when a Progressive newspaper talked about “Barack the Magic Negro”. So… is this name calling against Trump racist? Do we care? Does water run off a duck’s back?

thalesofmiletus | August 23, 2017 at 11:55 am

“Lemon claimed that Trump is trying to start a civil war”

Pure projection.

4th armored div | August 23, 2017 at 12:10 pm

this uncivil ‘war’ has been going on by the MSM against conservatives for a looooong time.

until DJT had the huevos to speak up and defend us, this was a 1 sided ‘war’. now that DJT is fighting back, they do NOT like it.

Don Lemon thinks Trump is trying to start a civil war.

In a way, he is.

Not starting it, though, since it’s already on.

He’s willing to fight it. And that’s what they don’t like, and can’t tolerate. They demand unconditional surrender. And for far too long, they’ve been getting it.

Once again, let me reiterate. The election of Donald Trump was a clear message that the vulgar populous was totally fed up with the lack of response to their clear desires on the part of the elitist Establishment politicians. This was viewed as a direct attack upon the positions and futures of the elitist Establishment. In response, the Establishment declared war upon Donald Trump and the populous who demands change.

The media, being an arm of the Establishment went on the offense. Being elitists, they naturally assumed that the populous would simply believe anything that they said and that the President of the United States would simply act “Presidential” and take it. This did not happen.

Not being a career politician, Trump struck back. He has consistently shown the “facts” and “narrative”, presented by most of the MSM as being horribly slanted and, in many cases, totally false and manufactured. And, in an even bigger surprise, the deplorable, vulgar populous have turned out to be too smart to simply accept the lies and innuendo dispensed by the MSM.

Tactically, nothing is working to halt or remove Trump. A time constraint is in place, with regard to the 2018 midterm elections. Within the next sex months, Congressional candidates will have to begin running for reelection in earnest. If Trump has not been removed, or at least discredited among voters, then a significant number of incumbents may find themselves out of a job, unless they support Trump. However, as virtually all incumbents are bought and paid for by Establishment interests, they really can’t support Trump by passing any of his desired legislation. It is the biggest political catch-22 in American history.

So, Trump has to be removed. Political and media attacks are gaining no traction. The Russian collusion story is beginning to point to Dems, rather than trump. While the media is studiously ignoring all of the criminal activities engaged in by Dems during the Obama years, that information is still out there and could surface to bite the Establishment in the butt. So, now we see a new strategy, by the Establishment; push the country to the brink of civil war.

The media, the Dems and the Establishment are terrified because they are losing. And, if they become desperate enough, they will plunge this nation into civil war.

As to the Times story, while details may be inaccurate, there is NO doubt that McConnell is working against Trump, and his agenda, and always has been.

    YellowSnake in reply to Mac45. | August 23, 2017 at 1:06 pm

    5 million more people voted for Clinton than Trump and voters were suppressed in close states – nothing was clear about Trumps election.

    Trump is an embarrassment. Assuming you are correct about his message, he still doesn’t have to act like a 6-year old to deliver it.

    All the MSM needs to do is report what Trump say and does. If you haven’t noticed the inconsistencies, you are one of the vulgar, ignorant suckers. The MSM is discrediting Trump simply by reporting on him.

    For instance,if Blumenthal (D-CT) mentions Russia, Trump will attack him on a lie he told 6 years ago claiming service in Vietnam. So Trump does have a memory longer than flea! But Trump got 5 deferments in the same war. Is the so called MSM being unfair to Trump if every time he mentions Blumenthal’s lie, they also mention Trump’s hypocrisy? It seem that in order to be ‘fair’ to Trump, the MSM need to turn from reporting to stenography. They must ignore his rationalizations, equivocations and contradictions. According to you, we will then have a fair press.

    Don’t worry about a Civil War, yet. The right has most of the guns. Wait, while the left is buying guns. Then we will see. Believe me, some are. We will not be coming to a gun fight with a knife.

    FYI, anyone has a right to start a figurative civil war using the tools that the Founders protected – mainly the 1st amendment. By the midterms, many who voted for Trump, will see they were conned. It is only going to take time until people realize that he is ineffective and incompetent. I learned a long time ago that you can’t succeed by blaming your failures on others.

      healthguyfsu in reply to YellowSnake. | August 23, 2017 at 1:20 pm

      You’re starting to lose it, now.

      Veiled conjectures about buying up guns….tell us about this first amendment war and how it’s supposed to work again. After all, it is your side trying to re-set the rules.

        YellowSnake in reply to healthguyfsu. | August 23, 2017 at 1:44 pm

        Nothing veiled. People I know are buying guns. They are tired of the threats made by the right prior to the last election when the right assumed Trump would lose. It is not being done to start of war – but to be able to fight if one comes. What is the right’s next act after Trump’s abject failure?

        There has been no reset of the 1st Amendment. Where did you get that idea? Anyone is allowed to write or say anything they want except to advocate the violent overthrow of the government or to yell ‘Fire’ (without cause) in a public space.

          Milhouse in reply to YellowSnake. | August 23, 2017 at 2:17 pm

          Anyone is allowed to advocate the violent overthrow of the government too, if they like. They just can’t incite people to actually do it, meaning to advocate it in a way that is both subjectively intended and objectively likely to deprive the audience of their free will, and cause them to rush out and act on the advocacy, without taking the time to think about it and decide for themselves.

          YellowSnake in reply to YellowSnake. | August 23, 2017 at 5:47 pm

          @Milhouse You are probably right about there being some distinction. Ted Nugent seemed to say a lot of violent and threatening things concerning Obama and he is walking around free.

          CZ75Compact in reply to YellowSnake. | August 23, 2017 at 7:18 pm

          The day the Left starts shooting will be many on the Right have been waiting for: open season on domestic commies.

          But, if the Left is really busy buying up guns, why are FBI background checks down substatially since Trump was elected?:

          https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/nics_firearm_checks_-_month_year.pdf/view

      Common Sense in reply to YellowSnake. | August 23, 2017 at 1:28 pm

      Please, please, please try to understand Trump is president!
      And he will be President for the next 4 years.
      He won fair and square!

        YellowSnake in reply to Common Sense. | August 23, 2017 at 1:38 pm

        Obama won twice. So we will give Trump twice the respect he gave Obama. Do u know enough math to know what 2 x 0 = ?

          Pelosi Schmelosi in reply to YellowSnake. | August 23, 2017 at 2:47 pm

          2 x 0 = Obumbler”s 8 years in office

          Common Sense in reply to YellowSnake. | August 23, 2017 at 5:12 pm

          Poor thing you just can not help blabbing about Obama?
          Let try this again Trump is our President! And he will be for the next 4 years!!

          YellowSnake in reply to YellowSnake. | August 23, 2017 at 5:59 pm

          Yep, and when he turns out to be the grifter he has always been, give him a pass and blame his failure on the unfair press. After all, you couldn’t possibly have been wrong.

          murkyv in reply to YellowSnake. | August 23, 2017 at 8:40 pm

          After the Clintons and the Obamas, it’s hilarious that you would call someone who made their money outside of government a “grifter”

          You should try something other than Orwell’s dictionary if you want to play

          Milhouse in reply to YellowSnake. | August 23, 2017 at 9:46 pm

          Many grifters make their money outside government. In the era when the term was coined most grifters operated in the private sector, because there wasn’t nearly as much money to be made in the government sector as there is now. The fact is that Trump is a grifter, as, of course, are the Clintons. Same morals, different sphere of activity, and therefore different methods.

      Sorry, but the number of illegally cast votes will always be in dispute,as we have a secret ballot system. so, it is entirely possible that the number of legal voters, who voted for Hillary was less than that who voted for Trump. And, there is a reason why we have an electoral college. It was to keep the more populous states from dominating the country due to higher population numbers.

      Apparently trump is not an embarrassment to most of the people who voted for him. In fact, it is rather refreshing to not have to parse politicalspeak whenever the President opens his mouth.

      Now, here yoyu reveal your true elitist character. People who do not agree with you are apparently vulgar [which means common – not necessarily a bad thing, unless you are an elitist], ignorant suckers. It is nice to know that people with your stratospheric intelligence are here to look after the rest of us.

      Blumenthal LIED about his service in Vietnam. *horn sound* Trump gained deferments during the Vietnam War. Now several million people were deferred during that time, mostly to pursue a college education. So, were all of these people lacking in moral character?

      Nobody wins a civil war. That is the whole reason for the liberal establishment wanting to start one. Look at the current action to remove Civil War statuary. A civil war causes significant economic and societal problems for generations and sometimes the nation never recovers from it. Guns are not really an issue, though there are probably more armed conservatives, many with military training, than there are liberals.

      Actually it is impossible to start a civil war by using free speech. As long as people are discussing things, they are not fighting. Combat is largely a continuation of non-violent diplomacy. What starts civil wars is when people take ACTION against other members of their nation-state. This does not have to be violent action, either. It can be any action which causes another portion of the citizenry harm and which those applying it refuse to stop. This leaves the other party with no alternative but to utilize force to stop the aggression or harm.

      As to people suddenly deciding that Trump is a failure for the Congress’ refusal to advance his agenda, doon’t hold your breath. The people who elected Trump are not stupid. They know exactly who is failing to repeal and replace Obamacare. They know exactly who will or won;t pass tax cuts. They know exactly who will fail to appropriate money for a border wall. And it will not be Trump. so, obstructionist Congressmen who are facing reelection in 2018 are keenly aware of their vulnerability to Trump voters.

        YellowSnake in reply to Mac45. | August 23, 2017 at 6:10 pm

        Trump said he had a healthcare plan that was better, cheaper and will cover everyone YES OR NO?

        Trump said

        nobody knew that healthcare could be so complicated

        Did he say it YES OR NO?

        So who are you going to blame – not Trump. Of course not.

        Trump owns it. If you want to give him a pass, fine. I have nothing to complain about. I have good coverage.

          Time for a lesson in how the US Government works. The CONGRESS, you know those guys who sit around in the Capital Building and pass laws, is the part of the government which creates or eliminates government programs. Not the President, whose main job is to administer those laws and run the Executive Branch of the government. It has been the Congress which has been promising to repeal Obamacare since they gained control of both houses of the Congress in 2012. They did it once, but Obama was able to veto it and, conveniently, the Republicans did not have the votes to override the veto. So, this year, we have a Republican President who has sworn to sign any repeal into law, especially if comes with some kind of a replacement. And, yet, the Congress suddenly finds itself unable to pass any replacement, let alone repeal, legislation at all.

          Now, you are a smart guy. So, WHO is responsible for the lack of repeal and/or replacement legislation for Obamacare? Trump, who has rolled back all of the Obamacare regulations which he has the power to eliminate or modify under the law, or the CONGRESS? Need a hint?

          Also, don’t count on having that “good coverage” if the Congress legislates a government funded, single payer healthcare insurance system. You may end up with the same coverage as everyone else.

          YellowSnake in reply to YellowSnake. | August 23, 2017 at 9:50 pm

          #Mac45 Nice grade school civics.

          YellowSnake in reply to YellowSnake. | August 23, 2017 at 10:04 pm

          #Mac45 Yeah, I kept hearing about how terrible the Canadian system is, but I actually have relatives up there and they tell me it works just fine. No, it is not perfect. But no one is looking to repeal Canadian Care.

          You allowed a bunch of con artists to work you into a hissy fit for their power and fortune. You are a true believer. You are cannon fodder. Left, right, it doesn’t matter. It just takes ideologues who think they know the TRUTH and believe only they know the TRUTH. SAD!

          healthguyfsu in reply to YellowSnake. | August 24, 2017 at 7:31 am

          If you want to play that game, Obama said he would cut the deficit in half. Obama said if you like your doctor, you can keep them. Obama said if he had a son he’d look like Trayvon.

          The first two are now proven lies with his time in office done. The latter is a bigger race bait than anything Trump has ever said if you bother to read the whole statement. All three were given a huge pass by the press with barely a mention and often praise for these comments. So yes, even a ranting fool like yourself should be able to see the media bias.

      stevewhitemd in reply to YellowSnake. | August 23, 2017 at 1:44 pm

      Yellowsnake: I congratulate you on your new-found respect for the 1st amendment. By all means, start a “figurative civil war”. Just remember two things —

      1 — figurative civil wars can turn nasty in a hurry

      2 — your own side may decide that you no longer need the protection of the first amendment, or of the law. When (not if, when) that happens, you’ll be kneeling at the side of a drainage ditch, hands tied behind your back, your brain screaming “if Bernie only knew!”

        YellowSnake in reply to stevewhitemd. | August 23, 2017 at 6:21 pm

        Please find any comment I have ever made here or any where else on the web where I didn’t have respect for the 1st amendment. What is new found is – well nothing in the comment I made.

        The figurative civil was is already nasty and has been for a long time. That is exactly why we needed the 1st amendment. Trump didn’t face any penalty for claiming that he had sent investigators to Hawaii that had found, incredible, incredible information on Obama’s birth. Still waiting.

      Milhouse in reply to YellowSnake. | August 23, 2017 at 2:13 pm

      All the MSM needs to do is report what Trump say and does. If you haven’t noticed the inconsistencies, you are one of the vulgar, ignorant suckers. The MSM is discrediting Trump simply by reporting on him.

      True. So why don’t they stick to that? Why do they keep lying about him, thus discrediting even the true things they report?

      For instance,if Blumenthal (D-CT) mentions Russia, Trump will attack him on a lie he told 6 years ago claiming service in Vietnam. So Trump does have a memory longer than flea! But Trump got 5 deferments in the same war. Is the so called MSM being unfair to Trump if every time he mentions Blumenthal’s lie, they also mention Trump’s hypocrisy?

      What hypocrisy? When has Trump ever pretended to have served when he didn’t? He wanted the deferments, so he applied for them and they were granted. What’s wrong with that? Had they not been he’d have had no choice but to go. Blumenthal & Harkin did serve, and they deserve credit for that, but they rose to prominence by lying about their service and falsely claiming to have served in Vietnam. Why would anyone not call them out on this whenever their credibility is at issue?

        YellowSnake in reply to Milhouse. | August 23, 2017 at 6:45 pm

        “So why don’t they stick to that?” You just don’t like the truth.

        Maybe what you mean is that anything which is not complimentary or laudatory of Trump should be ignored and we should all genuflect to his greatness.

        Just curious about 1 small but revelatory story that broke recently. Apparently, Trump has charged the Secret Service 60K for rentals of his golf carts to protect him. I am not saying that the president isn’t entitled to be protected. But a man who claimed he was so rich that he didn’t need anyone’s money is making a profit on his own protection.

        Is reporting that story biased? Is it biased to report that Trump criticized Obama’s time on the links, but Trump is playing at twice the rate. Is that unfair? Is it suddenly irrelevant?

        My guess is that as far as this crowd is concerned any story about Trump that isn’t positive, any story that implies criticism of him and any story that doesn’t put the blame on someone else when something goes wrong in his administration is a biased story.

          Milhouse in reply to YellowSnake. | August 23, 2017 at 7:24 pm

          On the contrary, I adore the truth. And there’s plenty of truth to report that doesn’t speak well of Trump. If the MSM were to stick to reporting that, along with whatever truth does speak well of him, giving each its due weight, I wouldn’t complain. But they are manifestly not doing that. They are still engaged in the all-out campaign they waged against him last year, constantly making up lies about him, and that discredits even the truths they tell now and again.

          If the story you repeat is true and verified, then of course it should be reported. Who says it shouldn’t be? It should be reported together with the context of what Biden & the Clintons charge as well. But I don’t understand why you think he ought to provide golf carts for free, just because he happens to own them. If anyone else owned them you wouldn’t object to the secret service paying the normal fee for them, and if they weren’t using them someone else would be renting them and paying the normal fee, so why should Trump lose that revenue? Bear in mind that his secret service protection is for our benefit, not his. He wouldn’t need it if he weren’t president. We’re the ones who decided we should protect our presidents, and that means paying what it costs. You’re saying Trump should make a huge donation towards that cost, on top of the salary he’s donating. I don’t see why he should.

          It’s perfectly fair to report how much golf Trump plays, for everyone who reported how much golf 0bama played in his day, and compared it to how little Bush played. But it’s not fair for those who downplayed 0bama’s golfing to now upplay (if that’s a word) Trump’s. In both cases I say the more golf they play the better.

      starride in reply to YellowSnake. | August 23, 2017 at 2:48 pm

      YellowSnake,

      You need to read “John Ross’s” book “Unintended Consequences” there will not be a civil war like we had. It is my belief that should something happen even remotely like a civil war. The total death count would be somewhat less than the number 535.

      “5 million more people voted for Clinton than Trump”

      The official total was 2.8 million…This is like a fishing story, YellowSnake…
      The fish gets bigger with each telling.

        YellowSnake in reply to tgrondo. | August 23, 2017 at 7:01 pm

        I read various stories that placed the plurality at 3-5 million. For the purposes of this article, I chose the higher figure – call it ‘truthful hyperbole”. But fine, I will accept the official final count of 2.8 million.

        Is the press supposed to report that number or only the unsubstantiated, fact-free claim by Trump that he would have won the popular vote if not for mythical illegal alien votes? Is reporting the official number evidence of bias?

        Is reporting that only a handful of people have been charged, let alone convicted, of in person voter fraud another case of bias?

        A somewhat famous folk singer, Tom Paxton, once commented that he didn’t need to make anything up anything to satirize a certain right-wing newspaper. He just had to quote them. He must have been prescient about Trump. There is absolutely no need to lie about him. The truth is enough to damn him.

          CZ75Compact in reply to YellowSnake. | August 23, 2017 at 7:26 pm

          Given that the popular vote is and always has been irrelevant, who cares? Hell, the popular vote wasn’t even tabulated until the 1820s, and I don’t think South Carolina let its citizens vote for president until after the Civil War.

          Leftists should read the Constitution. People who failed Civics for Jocks have no business having a say in government.

          Milhouse in reply to YellowSnake. | August 23, 2017 at 7:30 pm

          Is reporting that only a handful of people have been charged, let alone convicted, of in person voter fraud another case of bias?

          It’s a case of poor reporting, because this kind of fraud is almost impossible to detect, so it’s a wonder anyone is ever caught. The fact that some people are regularly caught despite the difficulty indicates how widespread the problem must really be. And it puts the lie to the claims we hear regularly from Democrats that this simply doesn’t happen.

          Gee whiz yallerbelly, even KellyAnn said the tactics on the election would have been different if it was run on a popular vote instead of the electoral college.
          And she said they’d have still won as those conservatives in california would have come out and voted knowing they have a better chance of winning instead of staying home knowing they have no chance to win the electoral votes in cali.

          Let’s see how this works, shall we?

          There are several ways that illegal votes occur.

          The first is when people who are not eligible to vote are allowed to register and vote. The usual remedy for this is to either strike the person from the rolls before the election without penalty [which is always characterized as voter suppression by liberals] or after the election, again without penalty. Once the vote has been made, it is impossible to know which candidate received the vote. In this scheme, only those people who it can be proven knowingly encouraged or registered the ineligible person are ever prosecuted.

          The second way is when a person uses a fraudulent identity in order to register to vote. There was a recent case of this in Ohio [ http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2017-02-10/urbana-man-charged-living-voting-us-illegally.html ]. It received no national attention. And, as with most cases of identity theft, it is extremely hard to detect under the current voter id system.

          The third way is where a person simply adopts the identity of a real registered voter and casts a vote in that person’s name. This is the infamous dead people voting and the more recent scheme of collecting absentee ballots in the name of registered voters and filling them out with the knowledge of the actual voter. Strict photo ID voter lws can markedly decrease this type of fraud.

          The final method is where people simply vote in various states, or even cities, under their own name. Most of these people are eventually, as happened to one woman in 2008 in Cincinnati, Oh.

          As you can see, without strict voter ID laws, it is very difficult to effectively prosecute a person. Then, there are certain jurisdictions which have a vested interest in NOT stopping such practices.

          YellowSnake in reply to YellowSnake. | August 24, 2017 at 12:58 am

          @Mac45 – You left out another very effective and time honored form of voter fraud that we know, with absolute certainty, was used to fix elections. You come up with various methods to deny citizens their right to vote. Literacy tests, intimidation, poll taxes, unreasonable or arbitrary identification requirements. Now those we know were used to keep blacks from voting.

          An addendum to your civics lesson. You condescended to explain to me how laws are enacted. But you don’t seem to know how they are produced. Now if Trump actually had a healthcare plan that was better, cheaper and would cover everyone, all he had to do was produce it. He could have made speeches, put it on his website or had his representative meet with the Republican Senators when they were having their closed door secret cabal. I have a theory about why he did none of those things and about why his ‘great, great plan’ never saw the light of day – he lied.

      Don’t worry about a Civil War, yet. The right has most of the guns. Wait, while the left is buying guns. Then we will see. Believe me, some are. We will not be coming to a gun fight with a knife.

      Don’t forget the ammunition yallerbelly, them gunz be less than helpful if you ain’t got the ammo.

      If the right was really the problem you’d know, we have a few billion rounds of ammo to go with the guns. Each.

      murkyv in reply to YellowSnake. | August 23, 2017 at 8:43 pm

      Now it’s up to 5 million?

      Why stop there with the lie? Why not just make it eleventy gazillion more votes.

      Won’t change the fact that the most corrupt candidate in US history was too stupid and/or sickly to campaign where she needed.

      Milwaukee in reply to YellowSnake. | August 23, 2017 at 11:57 pm

      “5 million more people voted for Clinton than Trump and voters were suppressed in close states – nothing was clear about Trumps election.”

      When Dr. Stein raised all that money for vote recounts, did she expect to find so many “anomalies” and “curiosities” in the heavily Democratic precincts? I doubt it. Too many irregularities. The pattern is Democrats win the close elections which require numerous recounts and boxes of previously uncounted ballots being discovered. Yes, using the tallies presented, Hillary had more popular votes. But I’ve read reports. States with thousands of individuals who checked they were citizens, registered and voted, and then on a different form, checked they were not citizens, and couldn’t do jury duty. Colorado has more registered voters than residents. Milwaukee, I’ve been told, has had a declining population but rising voter participation rate, so is a steady for the Democrat party. The list goes on. Senator Franken, the “giant” of the Senate, won in a squeaker. The number of illegal felon voters was greater than the margin of victory.

      “Oh Mr. Spade, how can you forgive me for lying to you?”
      “That’s ok. We knew you were lying so it really doesn’t count. We didn’t believe you, we believed your $200.”

      ConradCA in reply to YellowSnake. | August 24, 2017 at 2:46 pm

      More American citizens voted for Trump than Crooked Lying Hillary the Betrayer.

Well known to anybody paying attention but CNN, MSNBC etc are no longer new outlets, they are propaganda engines in service of the alphabet soup of interests that do not want an outsider in power. There should be a chyron continuously running saying “paid advertisement”.

Speaking of protesters, the facts are starting to come out about the supposedly “peaceful counter demonstration” on Boston Common this past Saturday. From today’s Boston Herald:

“As many as 2,000 “hostile” protesters surrounded police, some throwing bottles filled with urine and punching and spitting at cops as they tried to escort participants from Saturday’s “Free Speech Rally” out of Boston Common, according to police reports filed in court yesterday.

The crowd answered an order to disperse with “a barrage of insults directed toward the officers,” the police narrative states. As cops in riot gear began pushing back the crowd with their batons and shields, “they were met with violent resistance,” the reports state. ”

The spin in the coverage of this protest has been remarkable. Imagine the headlines if there were a Tea Party rally where 33 arrests were made…

Please, please Keep stirring the pot President Trump.
It’s boiling over and the stupid media is in a irritative state of mind. They are losing it once again!

Super job! 🙂

President Trump is the first Commander-in-Chief willing to fight the Culture War. That the media is beginning to take casualties is reflected in the meltdown Mary has described.

    YellowSnake in reply to Leslie Eastman. | August 23, 2017 at 7:10 pm

    ‘willing to fight the Culture War’? Luv, he exploited it right into the WH. As a man who bragged about grabbing pu$$y and cheating, just where would would place him on the scale?

    This is a man who proudly gave to Planned Parenthood and is now ‘pro-life’. Do you think that if he could have been nominated as a democrat, he wouldn’t still be pro-choice?

    You may think he is god’s instrument. But nobody in his right mind thinks the guy is godly.

Pelosi Schmelosi | August 23, 2017 at 2:44 pm

Quick somebody call YellowSnake a waaaaa-bulance.
It looks serious

    YellowSnake in reply to Pelosi Schmelosi. | August 23, 2017 at 7:20 pm

    Don’t you know I am amused by this? The degree of ignorance and illogical thinking necessary to support a grifter like Trump provides an endless opportunity to play with fools like you. Lincoln had it right: “You can fool some of the people all of the time”.

    On the issues that matter, the trend is decidedly liberal. Personally, I am doing just fine under Trump.

so don, which of the “staff” at the Crud News Network were escorted out after being caught on tape by veritas?

Funny, the ‘news’ is such premeditated b.s., it’s not worth even reading the ‘news’ anymore prior to coming here to post a comment or link a story.

Predictably, this likes of this blog have become more reliable sources for news.

Even Fox is ‘gone.’ (Try listening to a Fox News top-of-the-hour news break on the radio: the announcer’s text could have been written Crazy Nancy Pelosi.

Funny thing is, we don’t need ‘news’ to learn anything we don’t already know. For example, we know Trump is popular with his base, and remains popular. We know McConnell and Ryan are rats. We know the democrats are leftist lunatics looking to enslave us. We know democrat media and education complexes are in league with the most vile fascist street thugs this nation has ever seen. We know islamists immigrants bring terrorism and no-go zones. We know hollywood is infested with the likes of the democrat media.

What don’t we know the corrupt democrat and establishment media is going to tell us – besides the weather?

Viva Le Trump!

I take no credit for this wonderful line I read earlier today about cnn –

The former news channel

is now little more than a propaganda mouthpiece for the Deep State.

I know this is out of nowhere but…

I’m wondering if anyone knows if Heather Heyer was a paid protester?

Don’t worry Don, who ever is running this side show must have figured out that this race thing is a loser because Rachel Madow is back on the Russian Dossier!

We all thought this Russia BS was over! But noooooo….

I don’t know on which blog I saw the comment which referenced Scott Adams’ brilliant analysis of what he calls “the mass hysteria bubble”, but it is something you all should read and share with your bubbled friends.

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/164297628606/how-to-know-youre-in-a-mass-hysteria-bubble

Screeching “Trump lost the popular vote” is like the losing baseball team complaining they should have won the World Series because they outscored their opponent 20-10.

    Milwaukee in reply to randian. | August 23, 2017 at 11:59 pm

    Stats are for losers.

      YellowSnake in reply to Milwaukee. | August 24, 2017 at 1:13 am

      Stats are for losers.

      Tell that to the Boston Red Sox. The won their World Series after hiring a GM who used Moneyball statistics.

      I understand that when the Electoral College no longer assured that the slavers could perpetuate their inhumane way of life, they switched to guns. Now the republicans will try to hang on to power with the very mechanism that kept slavery going. But like the slavers, it is only a matter of time. The republicans couldn’t manage a plurality in 2000 or 2016. The Electoral College won’t save them indefinitely.

      Maybe it will be the ‘National Popular Vote Interstate Compact’ or simple demographics. Old white people are going to die off.

    YellowSnake in reply to randian. | August 24, 2017 at 1:02 am

    No it doesn’t change the result. Nobody is denying that. But it does sort of put a damper on the claim that Trump is popular. It should also affect how Trump runs his administration since a plurality of people didn’t want him. It might lead to a little humility (ha) or it might make him want to listen to the opposition – perhaps try to be conciliatory (ha).

Scott Adams is a funny man and his observations of the corporate world are spot on. But there a lot of of other incisive comedians who think that Trump and the people who chose to drink his brand of Kool aid are killing us all.

Share away. I doubt it will convince people – many or even any – who can see plainly with their own eyes – as opposed to using ideological peepers.

    ConradCA in reply to YellowSnake. | August 24, 2017 at 3:29 pm

    You Progressive Fascist have a lot of complaints about Trump, but how is it that you supported Obama and Hillary? Obama’s only skill is lying and he left a legacy of failure and disaster. His foreign policy was built on lies, betrayal and anti-Americanism. Hillary sold the favors of her office for hundreds of millions in donations to her slush fund and millions to her and BJ’s bank account. Then to top it of in her attempt to conceal this corruption she mishandled classified info thru use of an unsecure email server. Lastly, she lied over and over. She blamed video critics for the attack on our Benghazi consulate when she n.knew it was Al Queda like terrorists along with her incompetence that was responsible. She claimed that she used a private email server because she wanted to use one device to read email which was a lie. She said that there wasn’t classified info on her server which was a lie.

      Barry in reply to ConradCA. | August 24, 2017 at 5:43 pm

      “…but how is it…”

      Because it is a commie plant, paid to lie on any board it can find. Lies are all it does.

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