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Loretta Lynch used alias “Elizabeth Carlisle” to email about Bill Clinton tarmac meeting

Loretta Lynch used alias “Elizabeth Carlisle” to email about Bill Clinton tarmac meeting

The cover-up is coming apart

Two conservative groups, Judicial Watch and the American Center for Law and Justice, have been doing the hard work the mainstream media refuses to do to investigate the infamous tarmac meeting between then Attorney General Loretta Lynch and the husband of a subject of FBI Investigation, Bill Clinton.

The tarmac meeting was not initially disclosed by either Lynch or Clinton. Rather, the get together was discovered by a local news crew, as we previously reported on June 29, 2016, Gross appearance of impropriety in AG Lynch private meeting with Bill Clinton:

What do you call an Attorney General who meets privately with the husband of a person under FBI investigation, and only discloses it when asked?

Loretta Lynch….

… Lynch met privately with Bill Clinton at the Phoenix airport for 30 minutes, a meeting that was revealed only when a local news crew asked her about it at a press conference. ABC15 reports:

Amid an ongoing investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of email and hours before the public release of the Benghazi report, US Attorney General Loretta Lynch met privately with former President Bill Clinton.

The private meeting took place on the west side of Sky Harbor International Airport on board a parked private plane….

ABC15 asked Lynch about the meeting during her news conference at the Phoenix Police Department.

“I did see President Clinton at the Phoenix airport as he was leaving and spoke to myself and my husband on the plane,” said Lynch.

The private meeting comes as Lynch’s office is in charge of the ongoing investigation and potential charges involving Clinton’s email server….

“Our conversation was a great deal about grandchildren, it was primarily social about our travels and he mentioned golf he played in Phoenix,” said Lynch Tuesday afternoon while speaking at the Phoenix Police Department.

Sources say the private meeting at the airport lasted around 30 minutes.

“There was no discussion on any matter pending before the Department or any matter pending with any other body, there was no discussion of Benghazi, no discussion of State Department emails, by way of example I would say it was current news of the day, the Brexit decision and what it would mean,” she said.

That meeting set into motion a series of events including a press conference by then FBI Director James Comey announcing there would be no charges, and also a later announcement in late October 2016, that the FBI had reopened that investigation based on the discovery of additional emails on the laptop used by Anthony Weiner. Lynch leaned on Comey not to disclose the reopened investigation to Congress.

Since then we learned that Lynch told Comey not to describe the investigation into Hillary as an “investigation,” and instead to call it a “matter.”

The mainstream media has shown little interest in the story, preferring instead to obsess about Russia, Russia, Russia.

Two conservative groups, however, have used the Freedom of Information Act to obtain emails about the tarmac meeting.

Judicial Watch, which has represented Legal Insurrection in the past regarding FOIA issues, obtained documents that were heavily blacked out, Justice Department Blacks Out Talking Points on Lynch-Clinton Tarmac Meeting:

Judicial Watch today announced that the Justice Department refuses to disclose the talking points developed by the Obama Justice Department to help it respond to press inquiries about the controversial June 27, 2016, tarmac meeting between Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton at Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport.

The Justice Department heavily redacted the documents under Exemption b (5), which allows agencies to withhold draft or deliberative process material. The blacked-out material centers around talking points drafted and used by Justice to respond to press inquiries about the Lynch-Clinton meeting….

“It is jaw-dropping that the Trump administration is blacking out key information about how the Obama Justice Department tried to spin Loretta Lynch’s scandalous meeting with Bill Clinton,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “President Trump should order the full and immediate release of these materials.”

The ACLJ also has obtained emails, as we previously reported, ACLJ: DOJ Document Dump Shows Lynch-Clinton Tarmac Summit Planned, Media Coverup:

The American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) has released 413 pages of memos obtained from the DOJ that show the “tarmac summit” was planned and that the media was working with the Obama-Lynch DOJ to downplay and bury the entire incident.

The ACLJ in their article entitled, “DOJ Document Dump to ACLJ on Clinton Lynch Meeting: Comey FBI Lied, Media Collusion, Spin, and Illegality,” reports:

We have just obtained hundreds of pages in our ongoing investigation and federal lawsuit on former Attorney General Loretta Lynch’s tarmac meeting with former President Bill Clinton while the Department of Justice (DOJ) and FBI had an ongoing criminal investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails. The results are shocking.

First, the Comey FBI lied to us. Last July, we sent FOIA requests to both the Comey FBI and the Lynch DOJ asking for any documents related to the Clinton Lynch plane meeting. The FBI, under the then directorship of James Comey, replied that “No records responsive to your request were located.”

The documents we received today from the Department of Justice include several emails from the FBI to DOJ officials concerning the meeting.  One with the subject line “FLAG” was correspondence between FBI officials (Richard Quinn, FBI Media/Investigative Publicity, and Michael Kortan) and DOJ officials concerning “flag[ing] a story . . . about a casual, unscheduled meeting between former president Bill Clinton and the AG.” The DOJ official instructs the FBI to “let me know if you get any questions about this” and provides “[o]ur talkers [DOJ talking points] on this”. The talking points, however are redacted.

Chuck Ross at The Daily Caller does an excellent job sorting out the emails and demonstrating how Lynch used an alias to communicate about the tarmac meeting and its fallout, Here Is The Alias Email Account Loretta Lynch Used As Attorney General:

Like her predecessor, Eric Holder, former Attorney General Loretta Lynch used an email alias to conduct government business, The Daily Caller has confirmed.

Several of Lynch’s emails were included in 413 pages of DOJ documents provided to the conservative groups Judicial Watch and the American Center for Law and Justice. Both groups had filed lawsuits for records regarding Lynch’s controversial meeting with President Bill Clinton at the Phoenix airport last June 27.

Using the pseudonym “Elizabeth Carlisle,” Lynch corresponded with DOJ press officials to hammer out talking points in response to media requests about the meeting. The tarmac encounter drew criticism from conservatives because Lynch was overseeing the federal investigation into whether Hillary Clinton mishandled classified information on her private email system.

The meeting was revealed not by Lynch, Clinton or the Justice Department, but by a reporter in Phoenix working based on a tip.

On June 28, a reporter with Phoenix’s ABC News affiliate contacted the Justice Department to inquire about the meeting. Internal DOJ emails show that the request touched off a mad-dash to develop talking points and statements to respond to the developing story.

Lynch, using the Elizabeth Carlisle account, which was hosted on the Justice Department’s system, was also involved in those discussions.

Lynch’s attorney, Robert Raben, confirmed to TheDC on Monday that Lynch emailed under that pseudonym. He pointed to an article published in The Hill last February in which the Justice Department acknowledged that Lynch was using an email handle that was not her given name.

“That address was and is known to the individuals who process [Freedom of Information Act] requests; the practice, similar to using initials or numbers in an email, helps guard against security risks and prevent inundation of mailboxes,” Raben said.

This is just another indication that there has been a coverup about the tarmac meeting. The explanations at the time never made sense, and didn’t pass the smell test for anyone who has observed how the Clintons and their cronies operate.

The Trump administration would be in its rights in getting all the information out into the public, without DOJ blacking out key passages in emails. There is no reason for the Justice Department to assist in keeping communications secret. Jeff Sessions should order the release of all information and emails.

There is a 2016 collusion scandal, but it’s not about Russia.


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Excellent synthesis of story. This MUST be pursued.

lock THEM all up… lynch, clinton,comey… lyin bunch…

The best defense is offense. Someone should remind Trump/Sessions about that. There’s certainly plenty of targets available.

Is there anyone in the Obama administration who DIDN’T obfuscate their email affairs? Phony names, private email, separate servers — why, it’s as if there was something to hide!

The deuce you say!

Pursue this with the upmost vigor. Everyone in government, left and right, Democrat and Republican, has to come to understand that these sorts of things cannot be done and will always be discovered.

    Semper Why in reply to stevewhitemd. | August 7, 2017 at 2:34 pm

    Even using their private server, Hillary used an alias when corresponding with Chelsea. There’s definitely someone out there trying to convince Democrats that an email alias is useful.

    Nope. It looks like there was NO ONE in the Obama administration who followed the rules on a government email for official government business.

No worries, just Democrats being Democrats.

Connivin Caniff | August 7, 2017 at 12:46 pm

Isn’t Elizabeth Carlisle dating Carlos Danger?

We already know that Bill Clinton, as a lawyer, felt no particular discomfort in lying to the FBI, under oath, a clear violation of the Code of Professional Responsibility in both the Arkansas courts and the Federal Courts. In addition, Loretta Lynch, prior to assuming the position of Attorney General, practiced in both State and Federal courts. The same Code applies to her as well.

AG Loretta Lynch not only met privately with the husband of the subject of a high profile investigation, Bill Clinton literally was the Clinton Foundation. Surely, Bill would be included in any investigation of “pay-to-play” that the Foundation perfected.

This meeting was wrong on so many levels, but I don’t see anyone talking about the violations of the Canons, ethics or the Code of Professional Responsibility that governs conduct of any attorney holding a license to practice law, including Lynch and Bill Clinton. (See: CANON 9 – A Lawyer Should Avoid Even the Appearance of Professional Impropriety)

    snopercod in reply to Redneck Law. | August 7, 2017 at 3:38 pm

    It’s my belief that Codes of Professional Responsibility are mostly just window dressing, and not just in the legal profession, either.

      Ragspierre in reply to snopercod. | August 7, 2017 at 9:30 pm

      Well, as an attorney, mine are not “window dressing”. I live by them. You could say “scrupulously”.

      I know those who DO NOT, and rarely see one “justly” punished for it, however.

I have wondered for some time whether allowing this to leak out bit bit over a long time isn’t a strategy. When the momentum is going your way, perhaps it is best just to grind the opposition slowly into the ground.

I thought this was the strategy in the election when everyone wanted Trump to fire all his cannons at once, and he chose to stretch the campaign out. I thought it was brilliantly timed.

So, we are angry again. It is amazing that this can happen in the justice department half a year after Trump became president.

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | August 7, 2017 at 1:48 pm

Wow! At this rate Loretta Lynch will soon be self-…..


Hillary LOST the Popular Vote Also!

“California has 11 Counties With More Registered Voters Than Voting-Age Citizens: Registered Voters 144% of Eligible”

    Yes, but we consequently are blessed with a super-majority leftist legislature: those illegal voters are earning their money.

    144% registration is not proof of fraudulent voting. All it means is the rolls haven’t been cleaned in forever. But if there is no fraud then turnout in those counties should be unusually low; is it? Statewide turnout in California was about 58% so in those counties we should expect it to be about 40%; if it was higher than that, there’s good grounds for suspecting something is wrong.

      I’ll agree with you here. CA has a really lousy voter registration cleanup mechanism. Odds are that 143% number will only climb year after year as more voters register and move, and register there, and move again, et al.

      The real measure of fraud comes when you cross-check people who actually *voted* against death rolls and against voters who cast votes in other areas. That’s where Kobach’s investigations are bearing fruit. Without voter ID, you can’t criminally prove that the Mary who voted six times in the city under different addresses registrations is really Mary Margret who lives at 123 Maple etc…, but you can shine a light on the cockroaches and watch them scatter.

      For some reason, the Democrats really don’t want that. Wonder why.

I’ve argued recently with someone who maintains that not only is there a manuscript of the conversation which took place on the tarmac between Lynch and Clinton, but that it is public record, and that all the legislators were given copies of it. He/she concludes that nothing of a conspiratorial or underhanded nature could have occurred, since the record of that meeting is available. Where would he/she come up with such a notion?

    Milhouse in reply to Dagwood. | August 7, 2017 at 3:19 pm

    From her rear end. For one thing, the conversation did not take place on the tarmac. It was on Lynch’s plane. No, there is no transcript (is that what you meant by “manuscript”?); if your friend maintains not only that one exists but that it’s a public record, let her tell you where you can get a copy. The very existence of the meeting was supposed to be a secret; had a local reporter not got a tip off from someone who saw Clinton go over to Lynch’s plane, nobody would know it ever happened.

      I’ll admit that *possibly* after the fact, Lynch and Co. got together to piece together a pseudo-transcript of what they were going to claim was the conversation that went on inside the aircraft. Of course, the loose nail in the horseshoe there was Bill Clinton, who promptly went out and gave the ‘Grandchildren’ excuse, thus shooting holes through any lie that Lynch might try to scrape together.

      It must be very difficult to have a criminal conspiracy when the criminal you are conspiring with is such a blatant liar who has no problem going out and spreading the lie just as far as he can fling it.

“Two conservative groups, Judicial Watch and the American Center for Law and Justice, have been doing the hard work the mainstream media refuses to do…”

The MSM actually has been working hard to do the job they are paid to do — smother this with a pillow!

“The mainstream media has shown little interest in the story, preferring instead to obsess about Russia, Russia, Russia.”

The MSM is VERY interested in this meeting as well as other democrat corruption. They are working hard to distract the benighted masses into looking at an absurd Russia story so we will stay away from Obama/Lynch/Clinton/etc.

The MSM is neither lazy or stupid. It is hard work to sell stupidity such as “Russia” and I suspect the MSM knows a lot of details about Clinton-Lynch that will never see daylight.

I reject the premise that the MSM is about news. The MSM is about propaganda and that is harder work if they go beyond the democrat base.

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to TX-rifraph. | August 7, 2017 at 3:03 pm

    Agreed 100%.

    The Lie-Steam MSM has been about nothing but serving their slave-masters and pushing product.

    Fake MSM, Fake News, and Fake everything like this stupid and 100% totally fake fad those psychos were pushing too – Dance Gangnam Style.

    The “mainstream” media is not accurate at all. Fox News is ‘mainstream,’ as are a number of other outlets.

    The label is ‘democrat media.’

From the one sample email I’ve seen, the recipient, “Elizabeth Carlisle”, was the sole individual in the entire list of people receiving the email whose position at DoJ was not in the header right after their names, in brackets. The text, however, addressed her as AG Lynch, demonstrating proper respect.

People hide from the Attorney General. The Attorney General has no legitimate reason to hide from others, using an alias when everyone privy to the communication knows full well who she is. It’s not hard to imagine less legitimate reasons such as foiling FOIA requests.

Of course, we got this breathless rant …

Loretta Lynch may have committed perjury (a felony) when she told Trey Gowdy in 2016 she only used an official email to conduct business.

… because …

Back in November 2016, Lynch told Trey Gowdy under oath she only used official email to conduct business.

This is one of those what the definition of “is” is things. Lynch will claim that this was an “alternate” ‘official email’.

    Arminius in reply to Neo. | August 8, 2017 at 8:52 pm

    How much do you want to bet that Gowdy knew the answer to that question before he asked it.

    Speaking of questions, why aren’t Sessions and Trump doing anything about it? Professional courtesy?

    Arminius in reply to Neo. | August 8, 2017 at 9:00 pm

    Who would investigate Lynch? And who would prosecute her? Lynch’s crony-filled FBI and DoJ.

    I don’t expect anything to come of this. Lynch and Obama could go to the National Zoo and slaughter all the endangered species and hold a barbeque and the senior leadership of the FBI, every single state’s US attorney, and the press corps would show up just to take selfies.

Tarmac and feather the both of them.

Just another example, in a long list, of Obama administration officials who try to skirt FOIA requests by using fake / pseudonymous email accounts.
EPA Jackson
Lois Lerner
Now Lynch (and others).

This just stinks.

Wake me up when someone from obama’s admin gets indicted let alone goes to trial.

Most of them should have been locked up after Fast and Furious, the IRS scandal and Benghazi.
Lerner should be in prison regretting her decisions at the IRS to pull the crap she did, instead she’s still collecting taxpayer money in retirement.
Don’t even get me started on Holder and F&F. Still trying though.

Today we filed suit against the Department of State on behalf of Kent Terry and David Codrea.
Stamboulieh Law,

Close The Fed | August 7, 2017 at 7:56 pm

I’ve seen statements the meeting was pre-planned, but haven’t seen the document that shows that.

Anyone know what they have on that, without having to read through 500 emails?


    Milhouse in reply to Close The Fed. | August 7, 2017 at 8:00 pm

    No, it’s pretty clear from the exchange that it wasn’t planned in advance, i.e. before either of them got to Phoenix, but the two secret service details were in contact with each other, and when Clinton said he wanted to go over to Lynch’s plane they arranged it. Lynch’s claim to have been surprised when Clinton walked on to her plane was at least an exaggeration, if not a lie.

      DaveGinOly in reply to Milhouse. | August 7, 2017 at 9:27 pm

      She may have been genuinely surprised that Bill would even attempt such a meeting, but then again, he’s Bill Clinton, and if anyone knows how to get away with something that stinks to high heaven, it’s a Clinton (the actual article, in fact).

      Arminius in reply to Milhouse. | August 8, 2017 at 9:15 pm

      Just one nit to pick. The USSS doesn’t provide the AG’s security detail. The DoJ is capable of handling that on its own. Both the FBI and U.S. Marshall’s service have personal security units. I know the U.S. Marshall’s service provides security for DoE Secretary DeVos. The FBI, of course, provides security for the director. I’m not certain who does so for the AG but I’m certain it’s not the USSS. There’s no need for them to go out of house.

      But, yes, the security details would have been communicating.

      Arminius in reply to Milhouse. | August 8, 2017 at 9:46 pm

      My bad. I should have followed a few more links. The FBI was providing Lynch with security, at least on this trip. Also it is not at all clear that this meeting wasn’t planned.

      How did a local Phoenix reporter get a tip and know to head to the airport to cover this meeting?

Yeah. It in the documents on page 177 … [email protected]

It’s the alternative official email

These people are above the law, outside the law. If they are outside the law, why shouldn’t extra-legal measures be employed to get the truth?

Using pseudonyms in an effort to get around the FOIA? Using private servers to house classified information. Destroying phones and computers so the FBI cannot analyze them, Lying to Congress, mass unmasking of Republicans in an effort to spy upon them as they form the new government or win the election. Mass voter registration fraud and its coverup. Pakistani IT experts with terrorist connections being paid exorbitant salaries to operate House Democrats’ computers with implications of classified information mismanagement. A Russia hacking narrative based solely on a private company’s analysis (with said company being in the employ of the Democrats) that has morphed into sanctions and other actions against Russia. Illegal meetings between the FBI and those they were investigating followed by more lies and a cover up. Etc., etc., etc.
And to think that the country is consumed by a special prosecutor who is investigating a counter intelligence event that has uncovered no evidence of wrongdoing even after more than a year’s effort to find a crime. What in heaven;s name is going on where we ignore the obvious serial crimes of the Democrats and focus on an investigation that has found nothing and uses the fact that nothing has been found as evidence that something surely remains hidden that shows a real and terrible crime. Is this America or a Joseph Heller novel?

    geronlives in reply to Cleetus. | August 8, 2017 at 8:54 am

    We have been subverted that the political class and those who presumed to be our free press are not outraged at this and are actively trying to oust the legally elected President of the United States of America, and have warned that his Vice President is next.