Hey @JoeNBC, we have answer for you: Ukraine helped Hillary with Oppo Research
Scarborough: contact me if you know of a presidential campaign receiving opposition research or support from any foreign power
On today’s Morning Joe, Joe Scarborough stared into the camera and invited people to contact him if they’re aware of a presidential campaign that accepted “oppo research or support” from a foreign power. The question was based on a quote, shown on the screen, from former Romney campaign strategist Stuart Stevens asking whether any other campaign in history had received “oppo from foreign interests.”
Joe’s invitation came in the context of a discussion of a meeting of senior Trump-campaign people with a Russian purportedly offering oppo info on Hillary Clinton. Of course, based on what’s now known, Trump’s campaign people didn’t actually receive oppo research, just an offer of such in order to get a meeting.
MIKA BRZEZINSKI: The chief strategists on the 2012 Romney-Ryan team wrote on Twitter, “If you can find someone in other presidential campaigns who has received oppo from foreign interests, please share.”
JOE SCARBOROUGH: Let’s stop right there for one second on Stuart Stevens. Keep that up there. Because this is really the challenge. This is what — this is the challenge. We could have all of these people saying we’ve never done it, we’ve never done it, we’ve never done it, we’ve never done it. Stuart actually puts this the right way.
If anybody who is listening to this show—and most the people who are influencers in Washington—a lot of them listen to this show. A lot of people who have run presidential campaigns listen to this show, watch this show.
If you know, in your lifetime, a political campaign, a presidential campaign receiving opposition research or support from any political campaign — from any foreign power, especially a foreign power that’s hostile: Russia, China, Iran, Syria: let us know! Let Stuart Stevens know.
Seems like Scarborough conveniently forgot this Politico report about Hillary allies, including the DNC, receiving support from the Ukrainian government in the form of oppo research on Trump and his advisers [emphasis added]:
Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found….
Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.
A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.
So, based on the Politico report, Hillary actually did get oppo research help from foreign interests, unlike Trump, who only received an offer of help that went nowhere fast.
And then there was Ted Kennedy. According to an internal KGB memo, in 1983, Kennedy didn’t just passively accept help from the Soviets: he took the lead in contacting them to propose a deal to aid his presidential ambitions:
From a Forbes article:
Kennedy’s message was simple. He proposed an unabashed quid pro quo. Kennedy would lend Andropov a hand in dealing with President Reagan. In return, the Soviet leader would lend the Democratic Party a hand in challenging Reagan in the 1984 presidential election.
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He hasn’t forgotten. Its quite clear that Trump is held to a very different and very EXACTING standard to Democrats and that is all this reflects.
Well done article Mark.I wonder if anyone phoned Joe!
I think it was presumptuous of Joe to call the senate janitor an “influencer” just because the TV in his break room is stuck on CNN.
Mark called him. 🙂
If we take Joe as the talking embodiment of the D.C. establishment, it’s gotten almost comical to watch him devolve into shrieking bouts of primal hatred.
He can’t get over the fact that he can’t even come up with an allegation of any actual illegal activity. So he’s left with foaming at the mouth while saying “I HATE HIM! I HATE HIM!!!”
And that’s all they got.
(Could you ever have imagined a day when the Democrats would be falling all over themselves howling “OH MY GOD HE TALKED TO A RUSSIAN!!!!”, and that would be it? Nothing more at all?)
If I am not mistaken, wasn’t the infamous “Trump had prostitutes urinate on a bed used by Obamas” dossier commissioned or paid for by Democrat operatives and use information from Russian sources and then shopped around to damage Trump and influence the election?
I seem to remember the Democrats hiring a British Spy to get info on Trump from shady sources in Russia . Hookers, peeing in bed ect ect
Or did I just dream this up ?
If I ever hire hookers to pee on a bed, you can damn well be sure it’s going to be after the hookers have enjoyed some asparagus. The lack of asparagus in the dossier story makes me wonder if democrats have any imagination at all.
Psycho Joe and Low I Q Mika strike again.
Joe is the embodiment of the left. He uses only half of what he knows to make a point. Of all the people in the world to defend against oppo-research, it can’t be the clintons! My God! They invented it! Bimbo eruptions, threats, bribery, government access through a fake foundation and so much more and now the news is about Trump Jr. falling for a setup? Don Jr.’s one mistake was starting off by lying when by now, he should know that if it makes the msm they know the entire story and will leak it out drip by drip. Maybe in the future, he will just blurt out the truth up front and take the advantage away from the slime in the msm. Of course, he is a neophyte in politics so he can be forgiven ONCE!
Lying about what? As far as I can tell no one is saying they didn’t meet with a Russian. Its not up to The Don Jr to prove he didn’t meet with Russkies, its up to the lying media to prove Don Jr was colluding with the Russians.
Just because the media says something happened ISNT proof something happened. As we have seen since November 16 the media quite simply CANNOT be trusted.
The MSM will not survive to regret this.
They already have lost almost 100% of all their “normal” viewing public. (Dead Democrat Party Voters and Illegal Alien Voters don’t count!)
Does that include their viewing hostages in airports?
It isn’t that he lied it is that he used the left’s answer to a question by obfuscation. He said that the reason for the meeting was to discuss the adoption policy between Russia and the US. He/we/they knew that he would have never gone to such a meeting and that he went because they dangled the possible damaging info on hillary and the DNC. If he had said that up front then this whole episode would have been a nothing burger. But by obfuscating the real reason, he now looks like a lefty and the msm doesn’t like that. How many times do we all have to re-learn the saying that the coverup is worse than the offense?
Then did you type “Don Jr.’s one mistake was starting off by lying …” by accident? Oy.
Old and busted – RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA!
New hotness = TRUMP USED OPPO RESEARCH!
And that’s already older than the MSM’s “whores.”
Obama’s offer to be “flexible” certainly implies that he was expecting support from the Russians during an election, with the understanding that they’d be paid back later. And that support would not be mere “oppo” research.
And then there is the curious case of Sen. John McCain (Never/Trumper). The only case of real collusion with Russia that has occurred thus far that tried to affect the outcome of the 2016 elections. When he sent a private jet over to England to pick up the Russian fake GS dossier, he colluded with Russian foreign service agents to try and unfairly affect the outcome of the 2016 elections against Trump. Where was the libstream media’s protestation over this crime?
Let’s put all of this into perspective, shall we?
In the first place, there is NO evidence that the Russian GOVERNMENT assisted or supported the Trump campaign against Hillary Clinton. Some people of Russian origin MAY HAVE provided assistance, but there is NO EVIDENCE that these people represented the government of Russia. Everyone clear on that? Good.
On the other hand, Barack Obama, while the sitting President of the United States of America personally went TO Canada and campaigned for Trudeau. He personally went to Kenya and campaigned for the President of that country. He went to Israel and personally campaigned AGAINST the Prime Minister of that nation. So WHO has been actively meddling in the elections of other nations?
Then of course we have the donations, from other nations and national interests, to the Clinton Foundation which coincided with favorable actions by the US government, and supervised by HRC. There were the Chinese donations to both Bill Clinton and Hillary Clintons during their various Presidential campaigns.The mass of donations to both of the Obama campaigns from unknown [not just unnamed] foreign sources [a violation of the law, by the way]. The there are the close financial ties of the Clintons and their advisors to foreign governments, including Russia.
Seeing a trend here? What Don, Jr did was nothing more than every other campaign has done since this nation was founded. He investigated a claim of negative information concerning the opposition campaign. The source is unimportant if the information proves to be accurate. In this case, there is NO EVIDENCE that any bono fide negative information was provided and/or used. So, this is just more delusional ranting b y the anti-Trump forces.
The MSM knows nothing of perspective, only perception.
It would appear that it is not only the Dem-sought-after voters that are *ahem* “low information”!! Pretty much a movement-wide affliction.
Pass the popcorn!
Does a donation to the Clinton Foundation in the form of $20-something million by the Saudi government count? Surely Barry Obama’s support of Netanyahu’s opposition counts.
MSNBC has been hoisted by its own retards once again.
Has we used to say in the days of my youth “I’m going to liberate that one” Good One!
The Democratic-appointed government in Ukraine owes a debt of gratitude to Obama/Clinton/DNC for backing the violent coup in Kiev that deposed the democratically elected government, starting a civil war, and forcing a refugee crisis.
So, Hillary’s campaign sending an operative to the Ukraine to work with the government there to dig up dirt on Manafort, good. Donald Jr. taking meeting with alleged Russian gov’t representative to check out oppo on Hillary, OHMYGOD, OHMYGOD, OHMYGOD, OHMYGOD, OHMYGOD, OHMYGOD, OHMYGOD, OHMYGOD, OHMYGOD, OHMYGOD!