Scarborough: Trump Statement Sounds Like My Mother, Who “Has Had Dementia for 10 Years”
Show repeatedly cites Douglas Brinkley’s claim that Trump in a “confused mental state”
The entire opening segment of today’s Morning Joe was devoted to Joe and Mika’s suggestion that President Trump is, literally, demented.
The show repeatedly cited Douglas Brinkley’s claim that in his recent interviews, Trump showed himself to be in a “confused mental state.” Joe made his view very explicit. Focusing on a statement Trump made about the Civil War, Scarborough said: “my mother has had dementia for ten years. That sounds like the sort of thing my mother would say today.”
Scarborough went on to twice suggest that the president can’t remember what he said five minutes ago. Mika portentously declared that “we’re going to say—maybe no one—I’m not sure he’s okay. I’m not sure he’s okay. You have that feeling with people who are not okay, where it starts to dawn on you that they are not okay.”
Scarborough also suggested that Trump’s mental state has deteriorated in recent times.
What’s next? Will Democrats jump on this theme to start talking about the 25th Amendment, and its provisions for the involuntary removal of a president deemed to be incompetent? Morning Joe tread on very provocative ground today.
Note: Joe echoed an MSM theme—that President Trump was unaware that Andrew Jackson died before the Civil War. In fact, Trump said that the war might have been averted if “Andrew Jackson been a little bit later.” That clearly seems to indicate Trump’s regret that Jackson wasn’t around at the time of the war.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: I mean, had Andrew Jackson been a little later, you wouldn’t have had the Civil War . . . People don’t ask that question, but why was there the Civil War. Why could that one not have been worked out?
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MIKA BRZEZINSKI: Douglas Brinkley framed it this way: “it seems to be among the most bizarre recent 24 hours in American presidential history. It was just surreal disarray and a confused mental state from the president. Joe, you were equally perplexed, tweeting: “though it seems impossible, this is getting worse by the day. Is the president spinning even more out of control?”
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JOE SCARBOROUGH: Meacham, we can ask you the easy question, of course, about Andrew Jackson. Obviously he was wrong about Andrew Jackson and the Civil War by a matter of about 15 years. I want to ask you the more difficult question: do you follow Douglas Brinkley in your assessment that the President of the United States, certainly over the past 48 hours, has appeared to have a “confused mental state?”
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JOE: He started as if nobody has asked this question before. Why did we even have a Civil War. My mother has had dementia for 10 years. That sounds like the sort of thing my mother would say today.
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JOE: He said not so long ago that we could be headed to a “major, major war” with North Korea, and now he’s honored to meet [with Kim Jong-un]. Again, it’s as if he doesn’t remember what he said five minutes ago . . . He doesn’t remember what he said just five minutes ago. He doesn’t know his own positions on a health care bill that he’s passing. He seems confused.
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JOE: You’ll see that we’re not talking about whether Trump is a huckster or not. We’re talk about how mentally, there is a marked change in this man even in the past five years.
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MIKA: We’re going to say what maybe no one—we’ll do it again—I’m not sure he’s okay. I’m not sure he’s okay. You have that feeling with people who are not okay. It starts to dawn on you that they are not okay.
JOE: And it’s getting worse.
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JOE: It’s beyond bizarre. And Mika, I want to end this where you began it. There is nobody in the White House that is capable of stopping him from doing serious damage by the day to American alliances, and to American treaties, and to America’s standing across the globe.
And yes, this man has been erratic from day one. But it has gotten worse. He has, as Douglas Brinkley said, a confused mental state that has gotten worse.
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It’s a good thing his momma doesn’t know he’s making fun of her on national television. He should get a good butt whoopin’ for that. Also, where were all the mental health experts when Obama mentioned he had been to all 57 states? What about his repeated lies year after year. Surely, that should be grounds for an evaluation…
He has complained that she is a Fox News fan…
Um, that “57 state” line is good for a laugh, but you seem to be under the impression that he really said that. He didn’t. If you listen to the recording it’s absolutely clear that he started to say he’d been to all 50 states, and corrected himself mid-sentence when he remembered that he’d only been to 47. The “forty-” of the correction got slurred, but his meaning was clear.
This sort of slip, where an important but obvious word gets omitted, is common. Dick Cheney caught some flak when, after saying twice that Iraq had reconstituted its nuclear weapons program, the third time he left out the word “program”, thus appearing to say that Iraq had reconstituted nuclear weapons (How? By adding water?!). His meaning was crystal clear, though, just as 0bama’s was in this instance.
Even lefties like Snopes says your wrong about this one.
The actual quotes-
“… it is just wonderful to be back in Oregon, and over the last 15 months we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in fifty …. seven states? I think one left to go. One left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit
but my staff would not justify it.”
“I hope I said 100 thousand people the first time instead of 100 million. I understand I said there were 57 states today. It’s a sign that my numeracy is getting a little, uh …”
Leftist truthkeepers FactCheck.org also says it’s true-
Obama made the mistake of saying that he had visited 57 U.S. states during a presidential campaign appearance in Oregon in 2008. He clearly meant to say 47, but slipped up.
According to a Los Angeles Times blog item that highlighted the future president’s error, he said: “Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit, but my staff would not justify it.”
Sounding tired, Obama paused between the words “fifty” and “seven. The video shows that Obama’s “57 states” reference touched off some laughter.
It is completely clear he said 57. For anyone to interpret it any other way than that is trying to give Obama a mulligan.
Um, actually all three of your sources say I’m right about this one. They all say it was completely clear that he meant to say 47. They all note the pause between “fifty” and “seven”, where he was editing what he was originally going to say. Yes, the slip was good for a cheap laugh at his expense, and I like doing that as much as the next person. But too many people, such as buckeyeminuteman and rinardman, seem to think he actually didn’t know how many states there are, which is obviously not true.
No Milhouse, what they prove is that of all of the ears and eyes that have seem, heard and reported on this, you seem to be the only one in the world who heard him “slur” something when he paused.
And you ignore his comments from later in the day that I included in the Snopes link
Regardless of what he meant to say, he “clearly” said what he said
Here’s the video of him saying 57 states
Obvious to whom?
That’s nonsense. Really a laughable comment.
Especially so, since Politifact admitted that it was Snopes and FactCheck that came up with the “he meant to say 47” excuse. Even Obama didn’t try to use that.
Not to mention, the math STILL doesn’t work out, since he was saying he’d been to all but Alaska and Hawaii.
“…seem to think he actually didn’t know how many states there are, which is obviously not true.”
I don’t know what’s true, but I sure as hell don’t see it as “obvious”. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if that dim bulb didn’t know how many states there are.
Note: Joe echoed an MSM theme—that President Trump was unaware that Andrew Jackson died before the Civil War.
That’s funny. I remember a President that thought there are 57 states.
Did Joe think that President had dementia?
The pathetic thing is that Trump actually displayed a far more comprehensive understanding of the political situation in the 1830’s than fools like Joe Scarborough know, because they never bothered to study it.
Jackson had to deal with the issues of Secession and Nullification throughout his presidency, and it got to the point where Jackson famously said “if they (referring to some Charleston politicians who were pushing it) vote for secession I shall go to South Carolina and personally hang the first secessionist I find from the first tree I find!”
Of course that would have been technically illegal, but no one doubted that Jackson would do it, and all of the secession talk stopped right there. There is a very good case to be made that Jackson postponed the fight over secession by a good 25 years, just by the sheer force of his personality. It came to a head when Lincoln was elected because the South didn’t believe Lincoln could militarily back up his threats against them. It was a bad bet, obviously, but they never would have dared to make that gamble with Jackson in power.
Most people think that slavery was the only reason for the Civil War, but there were other reasons. It is just easier to use slavery as the major reason for the CW. And, for tomorrow’s class reading, go to chapter x ….
With Jackson, the first reason was the tariff/nullification issue. I don’t think Jackson’s actions/words were forgotten by the southerners. Add more problems with culture (north vs south), economy (ag vs industrial), federal vs state’s rights, Lincoln as president, Battle of Ft Sumter to the issue of slavery. So, you get the Civil War.
Some of those issues are rearing their ugly head – culture, federalism & nullification, economy, a controversial president. All we need are troops sent in somewhere.
They slandered Reagan in essentially the same manner, saying he was mentally incompetent, incapable, etc. They are liars from the get go.
Maybe Joe’s mom did really have dementia. Maybe she was just trying to avoid telling Joe he was a dipshit.
Disgraceful to mention your mother in such a context. The Left really has no shame.
Must be hereditary.
Trump was opining on a matter we also discussed in American history class. Could the Civil War be averted or was the South blind to the changes in the economic world that severely disfavored slavery. And like most historians, the debate centers on the very powerful and popular Jackson as the possible pivot.
Joe and Mika may not know American history. It sounds to me like Trump was discussing an essay he may have read on the subject.
And they thought Clinton was better???
At least Trump works a full day and looks the same every day. Hillary had to take many rest days and she went from looking ok to looking very sick.
Why did we even have a Civil War.
It’s weird that these dimbulbs consider this a bizarre question. Perhaps because they don’t like the answer—in 1860 the US had Democrats, and they wanted a shooting war. We still have Democrats; do they want another shooting war today?
Are we really reduced to talking about our mothers and their possible dementia?
Scarborough is a liar. Once diagnosed with dementia, patients rarely live more than 5 years.
Have they asked the same about Crazy Nancy?? She has acted and said much worse! Oh, I bet the 57 states will have something to say about this too!!
Had Lincoln simply let the South go, several things would have resulted:
1. Virginia would have stayed in the Union.
2. Without the deep south to resist it, Congress would have repealed the Fugitive Slave laws, thus moving the northern end of the Underground Railroad to the Mason-Dixon Line.
3. Pretty soon MD and VA would have lost all their slaves, and thus would soon have turned against slavery, at which point the Union could abolish it, thus moving the end of the Underground Railroad down to the NC line. Shortly thereafter the Carolinas and Georgia would have found it hard to keep their slaves from escaping too.
4. Eventually slavery would have become uneconomical across enough of the Confederacy that it could be abolished there too.
5. Without slavery, and without an industrial base, the South would eventually have come back to the Union.
This might all have taken 30 years, but better that than half a million dead.
I disagree with your list, starting with #1. That one is off the rails. Even Maryland might well have gone to the confederacy, without Lincoln arresting the state legislators that would have gone South.
In any event you left out the number one reason why Lincoln chose war, the South would take 80%+ of the federal income with it, and the Union would save <15% of expenditures.
The war was fought over money.
Off the rails?! Are you really that ignorant? It is 100% certain that VA would have stayed in the Union, because that is how it voted. Seriously, were you not aware that VA held a referendum on secession, and it was defeated? Virginians didn’t want to go to war. Only after it was clear that the war was going to happen anyway, and the only choice left was which side to fight on, did the politicians decide to secede (without once again asking the voters). Therefore if Lincoln had chosen peace VA would have stayed in.
Maybe I,m a little dense here but Trump said HAD Jackson had come later.
So by the common English usage , he recognized that Jackson lived before the Civil War .
Joe just needs to keep impressing MIka ,so the leg action continues
Yes, of course you’re correct, but such subtleties are over the heads of many of these so-called journalists. Also, they say, even if this first statement shows Trump knew Jackson was too early to stop the Civil War, his later statement that Jackson saw the war coming and was angry about it couldn’t possibly be true, because how could anyone possibly see a war coming 16 years in advance?
Which is even dumber than their original mistake, and demonstrates their ignorance of the first rule of holes. By the 1840s lots of people could see a civil war brewing eventually; the only question anyone had was whether it could somehow be averted, and if so for how long.
Correction , Trump said Had Jackson come a little later ( I drink, you know)
Rino Joe sounds like his mother – who shouldn’t get anymore attention here than a couple of lines, any more than her son should.